Given enough prep time, could Superman beat Batman in a fight?

[Captain Clown]

It's all there in the title. If Supes had time to plan out an effective strategy, could he take down the Bat?

I'd say it's possible, but only if he exploited one of Batman's weaknesses, like vulnerability to bullets or lasers or getting punched extremely hard. But still, it's kind of a toss-up.

[ktoriyama]

Yes Batman always carries around Kryptonite, but all Superman has to do is wear a lead suit. Then again, Batman will have an AP Kryptonite launcher. On the other hand, Superman will use his powers of Speed, Slow, and Zoom in to dance around those AP shells. You know what I voted for the only obivous answer, the viewers will win, because regardless of who gets the butt handed to them on a plate, it will be fun to watch. Unless of the it's The Batman, then we are all having batwings tonight.

[Harley_Quinn]

Voted for the viewers, cause it would sure as hell be neat to see how it would be played out.

[Yarharhar]

I don't think Superman could do it, because Batman always views superman as a threat somewhere in the back of his mind, clark kent however...That's the key. I see it happening at some Wayne Enterprises event that the planet is covering. Bruce goes to shake Clark's hand, but Clark crushes it in his grip and throws him into the watch tower (yes, the one in space). And then heat vision lobotmizes his corpse.

[Bird Boy]

Yes Batman always carries around Kryptonite, but all Superman has to do is wear a lead suit. Then again, Batman will have an AP Kryptonite launcher. On the other hand, Superman will use his powers of Speed, Slow, and Zoom in to dance around those AP shells. You know what I voted for the only obivous answer, the viewers will win, because regardless of who gets the butt handed to them on a plate, it will be fun to watch. Unless of the it's The Batman, then we are all having batwings tonight.

Superman can zoom in? Or have you been playing Viewtiful Joe too much? :D

As for the question--Superman still wouldn't win, cause Batman would have prepared for Superman's preparation.

(I've been hanging around Fone Bone and Style too long, I know.)

-BB

[Alba Aulbath]

I picked sandwich. Because Batman can tempt Superman with a sandwich and win.

Or something like that.

Mmm, sammich.

[LeatherWings]

Simply put, The more time you give Supes the more time you give Bats, there for Bats has more of an advantage, the more time Supes plans. There for my vote goes to...BATMAN.
Sorry, didn't see your post Bird Boy, so didn't know that me and you had the same thought, hey great minds think alike. The last sentance was an edit by the way.

[Mister Intensity]

All it takes is one superspeed punch. The problem is that many writers forget that Superman has superspeed.

Mister Intensity

[Phantasm]

Of course Superman can emerge victorious in a fight between him and Batman! Batman fans generally tend to disregard the abilities of his potential opponents with the assumption that the oppent will be ridiculously stupid. Batman is smart.But Superman is not dumb. With preparation, and a punch, Batman is bound to get defeated by Superman.

[Style]

As for the question--Superman still wouldn't win, cause Batman would have prepared for Superman's preparation. Superman: So, in summation, although Preparation's A-G have been utter failures, I believe I have come up with a viable option for defeating Batman in what i like to call... Preparation H!

Flash: *Snickers*

Superman: What? Do you have something to say?

Flash: No, No, go right on ahead.

Superman: Okay... (turning to Wonderwoman) So, on the whole, I think Preparation H feels good.

Flash: Yes, Preparation H does feel good... On the whole.;)

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Oh, and there's no such thing as hanging out with Fone Bone and Style too much!

[Anthonynotes]

I'm tempted to make up a joke, but in light of this matchup involving my favorite superhero, instead of a joke answer, I'm going with the guy with actual superpowers (and as others said, *isn't* a mental slouch), Superman all the way! ;-)

Of course, if someone's *forcing* them to fight, and Supes is holding back, I guess that's the only way Bats keeps the fight lasting longer than the time it takes to make a hardboiled egg (no matter how much "time he has to prepare")...

As for Kryptonite: in the 1950's stories, various non-superpowered gangsters (the main bad guy Superman fought in 1950's-era comics, probably a result of either the post-Golden Age period or reflecting who Supes fought on the George Reeves TV show of the same era) would often wield kryptonite in nearly every issue, which stymied Superman---which, of course, meant he'd simply figure out another way of solving the problem at hand.

-B.
(Waiting for the rush of "but in Dark Knight Returns Bats had kryptonite and kewl stuff 'cause he RULEZ!"-type posts...)

[Mister Intensity]

It's harder for me to think of a scenario where Batman would win than one in which Superman would win. 99 times out of 100, Superman would beat Batman, no matter what the "Batman could beat anyone with enough preparation" crowd would say. Really, how many times did the mad scientist, Earth One version of Lex Luthor, a highly skilled, highly intelligent opponent like Batman, has beaten Superman? Zero and that's how I look at Batman's chances against Superman.

Mister Intensity

[Teo]

Batman could kill the S-man, but there's a scenario where practically anyone can kill him. Superman on the other hand could snap Bruce's neck before Batman knew he was in the room. Clark is brilliant (as smart as Batman? Maybe) AND he is infinitely stronger. It's no contest. But then again, bad writing has defeated Supes several times and that just might be enough to give the Dark Knight an edge.

[LeatherWings]

Bat caries kryptonite in his belt, by the time, Supes reached him it would be too late, because even if Supes punched him, he'd die also, when he breaks Bat's belt, becuase the Kryptonite would kill him.(plz close this topic, had one on another board somewhere, and it went on and on, until people started causing people off, it wasn't on toonzone, but trust me things could get ugly.)

So the correct assumption should be it ends in a draw, thus them both dying, which is why they never do fight becuase they're both not stupid, so they know neither would win.

[EJill34]

It's harder for me to think of a scenario where Batman would win than one in which Superman would win. 99 times out of 100, Superman would beat Batman, no matter what the "Batman could beat anyone with enough preparation" crowd would say. Really, how many times did the mad scientist, Earth One version of Lex Luthor, a highly skilled, highly intelligent opponent like Batman, has beaten Superman? Zero and that's how I look at Batman's chances against Superman.
But in Dark Knight Returns Bats had kryptonite and kewl stuff 'cause he RULEZ!

[Batman Fan]

Although my crazy bat fanatic side is telling me to type, "Batman's invincible, no one can defeat him" my sensible side isn't blind to the fact that Batman is only human and Superman is not stupid and does have superpowers, so even though I don't wanna admit it:sweat: Superman would win.

[sdp]

It depends, if batman had enough time to prepare for superman preparing then yes.

[Mister Intensity]

Bat caries kryptonite in his belt, by the time, Supes reached him it would be too late, because even if Supes punched him, he'd die also, when he breaks Bat's belt, becuase the Kryptonite would kill him.(plz close this topic, had one on another board somewhere, and it went on and on, until people started causing people off, it wasn't on toonzone, but trust me things could get ugly.)

So the correct assumption should be it ends in a draw, thus them both dying, which is why they never do fight becuase they're both not stupid, so they know neither would win.
Batman carries Kryptonite in a lead pouch in his utility belt, since Kryptonite causes radiation poisoning in humans (in both the DCU and DCAU), thus Bats wouldn't carry it all the time, only in situations he is likely to engage in battle with Superman. Besides, Superman knows that Batman wouldn't expose himself to Kryptonite longer than necessary --ergo he keeps it in a lead pouch -- so he wouldn't break Batman's belt knowing kryptonite is in there.

Mister Intensity

[LeatherWings]

Yeah, but Bats would knoe if Supes is planning this from one source or another, thus carrying kryptonite ring with him, and he could change ti to a spot where Supes would hit it(like his chest,) I you people aren't gonna agree on a draw, the ROCK ON BATMAN! He'd kill Supes, hey wait, I thought neither of them believed in killing, well that completely screws up this whole topic. There you go, complete waste of internet space.

[Yojimbo]

Superman: So, in summation, although Preparation's A-G have been utter failures, I believe I have come up with a viable option for defeating Batman in what i like to call... Preparation H!

Flash: *Snickers*

Superman: What? Do you have something to say?

Flash: No, No, go right on ahead.

Superman: Okay... (turning to Wonderwoman) So, on the whole, I think Preparation H feels good.

Flash: Yes, Preparation H does feel good... On the whole.;)

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Oh, and there's no such thing as hanging out with Fone Bone and Style too much!
Hmm, didn't care for the third Austin Powers that much but onto the real subject. In an open environment, I think Superman would have the advantage. But since Batman caneasily counter Superman, he'd lead Superman into an old sewer section lined with lead or a building lined with lead or something. If Batman leads Superman into his own turf, Batman stands a slight chance and he's pretty good at capitalizing on those.

[Patrick Bateman]

I laughed out loud when I read the title of this thread. You always hear that excuse "Batman could take down anyone with enough prep time", so I found this thread really clever.

And yes, I think Superman might just pull it off.:p

[Fone Bone]

Batman: I always win because I've ALWAYS been considered the cooler character.

Superman: Um, don't you eat nachos and listen to bubblegum pop?

Batman: You SAID you would never bring that up again. (Runs off sobbing.)

Superman: Why do we always fight on vacation?

[90'sCartoonMan]

I think the less preparation time, the better it is for Superman. If someone went "1, 2, 3, GO!" Superman, with his speed, would take out Batman, whose strength is his planning and sneakyness.

Anyway, if Superman is worried about the kryptonite, he can just keep a safe distance away and throw stuff at Batman with his super strength guided by his vision.

[Anthonynotes]

But in Dark Knight Returns Bats had kryptonite and kewl stuff 'cause he RULEZ!

Yeah, man, and Bats has, like, more money than Superman and junk since his parents, like, died and stuff, so, like, he's gotta be better, d00d. Plus, Superman sucks and junk... my *mom* doesn't even know who kewl guys like Bane are but knows who Superman is, how lame is that, dude?!

:-)

-B.

[KuwabaraTheMan]

I laughed out loud when I read the title of this thread. You always hear that excuse "Batman could take down anyone with enough prep time", so I found this thread really clever.

And yes, I think Superman might just pull it off.:p
Yes, I just burst out laughing when I read the title.

Anyhow, if Superman actually had prep time that means he intends to fight Batman, so that squanders Batman's one advantage(always being prepared for a fight). Supes takes this, no sweat.

[Yarharhar]

What if superman was preparing a surprise birthday party for batman, but batman thought he was preparing for a fight so he throws a kryptonite batarang at his face and it explodes. Well...that's not really a question.

[Casey Mack]

lol i will go with supes since well Superman could really beat him without lifting a figure if you think about it.
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[Zergrinch]

Come now, more prep time means Superman's chances grow dimmer and dimmer.

Superman wins with zero prep time. If he's worried about the kryptonite, he can just heat vision Batman's neck. Voila, decapitated bat! :D

[Anthonynotes]

What if superman was preparing a surprise birthday party for batman, but batman thought he was preparing for a fight so he throws a kryptonite batarang at his face and it explodes. Well...that's not really a question.

BATMAN: (Stern voice) "Happy birthday," attacker!

SUPERMAN: (In pain from Kryptonite) My birthday's... on February... 29th... Bruce... besides, don't you remember... what *today*... is.... ?!

BATMAN: (Checks calendar) Hmm...February 19th... then that means all those Bat-shaped balloons, gifts, and stuff must've been for... (picks up a present) eewwww...

WONDER WOMAN: (Taking the gift from Bruce) Guess I won't be needing to save that gift receipt....

:-)

-B.

[murmur]

This thread rules. Definite LOL for the title alone and plenty of the posts are quite funny.

Note to those who are taking this seriously again--lighten up, it's all a joke!

[ktoriyama]

Superman can zoom in? Or have you been playing Viewtiful Joe too much? :D

As for the question--Superman still wouldn't win, cause Batman would have prepared for Superman's preparation.

(I've been hanging around Fone Bone and Style too long, I know.)

-BB
Yes I have, but the point remains. Batman and Superman are just the creation of writers. If the want they can give Batman the power to resurrect himself for the dead, and gain Spawn like power to summon demons and eat Supes alive. If they want Superman can gain a sudden allergy to KFC spicy how buffalo wings, catch a rash and die. So really this debate can go on forever.

[Yarharhar]

Or it could turn out that batman was kryptonian all along but since he hangs around in the dark so much he never noticed, or that he just choose not to use his powers out of the kindness of his heart. Until now.