Gundam SEED Destiny licensed

[NickWhiz1]

http://www.mahq.net/rants/interviews/jchu.htm

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Chris: The year 2004 saw a number of Gundam releases, including Zeta Gundam, Gundam SEED, Gundam F91 and SD Gundam Force. Can you give us any indication on what to expect on the Gundam front in 2005?

Jerry: Right now the focus is still on the Gundam SEED series on Cartoon Network and the final volume of the DVD release will be out soon. We also have on tap the release of the Gundam SEED movies [Ed- Special Editdion compilation specials] which will be released on DVD in the summertime, similar to the original series movies. There will be additional never-before-seen animation with both scenes and mecha, totaling more than 20 min. I believe we have also finally received the SEED epilogue from Sunrise and will be releasing that with the movies. And yes, production will begin soon on Gundam SEED DESTINY. That means it’s licensed.

Chris: DESTINY being licensed is big news. Do you plan to officially announce it at any upcoming conventions?

Jerry: I’m announcing it now. It has been said before and it will be said again, BEI is committed to the release of this extraordinary and long running franchise and we plan on releasing all the Gundams. Broadcast has not been set yet, but we’re shooting for possible first volume DVD release of DESTINY…soon.

Wow...that didn't take long. I wouldn't be surprised to see Destiny Vol. 1 by the end of the year.

I felt this was important enough to make a new topic instead of posting in the talkback.

[KuwabaraTheMan]

If CN was willing to pick up Legend of the Twilight to air it on stealth block, does anyone think they could do the same for Destiny?

[Funkatron]

What surprises me is that according to Bandai, Seed is getting good ratings. Wowsa.

Anywho, soon is not enough. I need my destiny fix, now. Frankly, GSD Blows GS out of the water 10x over and I need my DVD quality, dub version to keep me satisfied.

Can anyone clue me in on the movie(s)?

[GWOtaku]

Wow, that was quick. Destiny's not even halfway done and they've decided to bring it over. I suppose it makes sense to make it the next Gundam series to release, since Gundam Seed's release is almost done and keeping the two close together is probably prudent.If the SEED specials are being released in the summer, that means we could see the first volume of Destiny over here as soon as this fall.


Can anyone clue me in on the movie(s)?
Basically, after SEED ended they made I think four specials summarizing the events of the TV show. I think each one lasted 45 minutes to an hour, so we're talking three to four others of material. I know that they do feature scenes that you never saw in the show, so there is some fresh material for those who have seen the show before. I only saw the first one way back, so I don't know too much about the new content that was added.

[Duke]

And people didn't listen to me when I said work would begin on dubbing Destiny pretty soon...

[Funkatron]

I never doubted it. I'm almost guessing they started right after Seed's Dub.

[Pepperidge]

*crosses fingers for YTV broadcast in January*

Glad to hear they got Final-Phase, but I was really hoping it would be on volume 10.

[livingfruitvirus]

If CN was willing to pick up Legend of the Twilight to air it on stealth block, does anyone think they could do the same for Destiny?Probably not since it was picked up around the time .hack//SIGN was picked up.

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Probably not since it was picked up around the time .hack//SIGN was picked up.
But they aired SIGN in a deathslot as well.

[NickWhiz1]

If it does make TV (more than likely Cartoon Network), it won't be this year. Both Toonami and <pipe dream> Adult Swim </pipe dream> look to be chock-full of premieres this year.

Hell, most of us aren't even sure if Toonami will be able to fit in 4 hours by the end of the year :p

I guess there's always the possibility of branding the stealth block, but I doubt it :shrug:

[Fresh V]

This was a lot sooner than I had expected......

(I said that 2 times in 2 days....)

[Funkatron]

The return of the Midnight run would be nice...

[Andrew T. Hingson]

And people didn't listen to me when I said work would begin on dubbing Destiny pretty soon...
I sure did. Remember I've been pimping it for Toonami any time after Yu Yu Hakusho finishes for quite some time. Imagine the glory of Naruto followed by Destiny. As long as they aren't edited too much (which is hard for Naruto but even harder for Destiny) it could work out. *prays for TV-PG*

Of course CN might not want Destiny. But Bandai will surely try again and I think CN might just bite considering that Destiny has proven to be a much better series.

[Riza Hawkeye]

Well, that was quicker then I expected.


Can anyone clue me in on the movie(s)? The 'movies' are essentially the condensed version of SEED, with even more scene thrown in. They are the Special Editions that everyone talks about. Also there are scenes like, Cagalli in the shower (with very little steam) and Kira and Flay, more or less, doing the deed. I'm not talking /h/ but if you didn't think it happened the SE makes it obvious enough.

So, we'll be getting the 5 minute 'After-Phase' special from the last DVD in Japan with the special editions...good news all around here :anime:

[Andrew T. Hingson]

The return of the Midnight run would be nice...
If that's the only way they can air it TV-PG then so be it. But good luck on getting CN to air something so often controversial right after CNF. Even if there was bumper programing for an hour (which would mean shortening the reruns of CNF by an hour).

[Lord Dalek]

Please give the SE's a good release Bandai, thats the version I'm planing on buying.

[Will Sturnick]

I didn't expect this to come so soon. This has to one of the shortest licensing lag times. I was expecting it to be announced in late August, like SEED. It would be incredible if Volume 1 of Destiny was released in the Summer, perhaps late July/Early August.
I knew the Movies would be coming, I'm glad they got After-Phase. I wish it was going to be on Volume 10, but at least we're getting it.

He said that the SEED movies would be release similar to the MSG ones, is it too much to hope for all 3 at once?

I wonder what this means for the older series. Will they be pushed back even further or will they get Z-esque releases?

[Beat]

You mean a big ol' boxset of movies?

Maybe CN should air that instead of the series. Put it on a general night disco firearm free and see what happens.

[Funkatron]

Release Predictions!!

Ok, so Final volume of Seed is coming in May. My guess is the Seed Movies/specials will come in June/July. And then, Seed Destiny will show up in Aug/Sept.

[Andrew T. Hingson]

I think the soccer moms would burn down CN's facilities if CN actually did that.

[Andrew T. Hingson]

Release Predictions!!

Ok, so Final volume of Seed is coming in May. My guess is the Seed Movies/specials will come in June/July. And then, Seed Destiny will show up in Aug/Sept.
And Destiny replaces Yu Yu Hakusho on Toonami in October. :D

[Will Sturnick]

And Destiny replaces Yu Yu Hakusho on Toonami in October. :D
I could see that. Would it be to unreasonable to peg Destiny to replace SEED when it finishes in April?

[Keiichi]

Well atleast they did'nt wait for the last 10 episodes this time to announce it. God what a mess that was. Still I'd wish they'd release one of the older series instead. They just keep getting pushed back.

[Funkatron]

And Destiny replaces Yu Yu Hakusho on Toonami in October. :D
The pimp with no limp strikes again.

In a way, I feel sorry for WS. All that money and time gone to editing x10 :p

[Beat]

I think the soccer moms would burn down CN's facilities if CN actually did that.
It might work. Have a big ol' Gundam movie marathon, with the SEED trilogy, the 0079 trilogy, Char's Counterattack, and F91.

Well, probably not the 0079 trilogy seeing as the dub is one of the worst ever.:crying:

[Andrew T. Hingson]

The pimp with no limp strikes again.

In a way, I feel sorry for WS. All that money and time gone to editing x10 :pWell it wont be quite as bad if it's TV-PG. Like maybe SEED's editing x5 :p

But if WS has to edit both Destiny and Naruto then oooh boy are they in for a lot of work. They'll probably have to edit the episodes on a schedule that gets them done only a month or less before their air date and hope they never get behind.

[Funkatron]

Well it wont be quite as bad if it's TV-PG. Like maybe SEED's editing x5 :p

But if WS has to edit both Destiny and Naruto then oooh boy are they in for a lot of work. They'll probably have to edit the episodes on a schedule that gets them done only a month or less before their air date and hope they never get behind. poor CN could go broke...digital paint ain't cheap :p. Especially neon colors

[Pepperidge]

I'd at least like confirmation that WS will be doing the editing for Naruto and NOT ShoPro.

Even if they can get guns back on Toonami (which I sincerely hope they do), Destiny just isn't going to run with anything less than a TV-PG. Even at this point in the series, the violence and strong themes are already being interwoven into the show in more of a Fullmetal Alchemist kind of way.

[rubberchicken]

It might work. Have a big ol' Gundam movie marathon, with the SEED trilogy, the 0079 trilogy, Char's Counterattack, and F91.

Well, probably not the 0079 trilogy seeing as the dub is one of the worst ever.:crying:

The 0079 movies had a dub?

[Keiichi]

The 0079 movies had a dub?
Yes and let us never speak of it again.

[Duke]

The 0079 movies had a dub?
I believe it was before Gundam Wing aired on Toonami.

[Ryoutarou]

The 0079 movies were dubbed in the EARLY 90s weren't they?

Damn, that was fast...So, doesn't this mean subs stop now? O.o;

[NickWhiz1]

So, doesn't this mean subs stop now? O.o;
Hasn't stopped SOMEONE from popping up and subbing licensed titles.

[Duke]

Damn, that was fast...So, doesn't this mean subs stop now? O.o;
Considering a certain subbing group hasn't stopped subbing a certain ninja show, I doubt it.

[Lord Dalek]

I believe it was before Gundam Wing aired on Toonami.Yeah the movies are chronologically the third dub behind 0083 and 0080.

[Andrew T. Hingson]

Considering a certain subbing group hasn't stopped subbing a certain ninja show, I doubt it.
And they aren't the only ones either.

[Quincy Archer]

Considering a certain subbing group hasn't stopped subbing a certain ninja show, I doubt it.
Thats why I wonder whats the beef when shows get dubbed nothing will stop fansubs unless companies take legal action. But I think some companies wont do it Because it will someway "alienate the fans " Which i find kind of silly anyway. But back on topic Seed Destiny is Licensed:eek: knock me over with a feather and by Bandai I almost fell out of my chair.

[Ryoutarou]

I wouldn't be so against the Destiny subs keeping on, but who knows? Ah, I can wait either way for it in English.

[Rabi~en~Rose]

if Destiny goes to Toonami I just hope it is good unlike Seed I also hope they would air the Seed movies maybe I could stomach those over the show

[MeggieMay]

What surprises me is that according to Bandai, Seed is getting good ratings. Wowsa.For its timeslot, Jerry said. Which seeing that's 1AM ET on a Friday/Saturday morning, it's probably quite a bit lower than the ratings needed to be a passable show on Saturday nights at 10:30PM ET :sad:.

However, I'm glad to hear the ratings are doing well no matter where it is and that the show will soon be dubbed and coming to the U.S. soon :anime:.

[Neo-Era]

The 0079 movies were dubbed in the EARLY 90s weren't they?


Nope, although with the awful script changes made in the first movie's dub, it's not hard to see why someone would make that mistake.

[HellCat]

People seem to be forgetting that this is coming from Jerry Chu, who multiple times hasn't been too reliable. Plus, 'soon' can mean various things in business terms. I've seen it referred to stuff that didn't come till 6-8 months later.

[Pepperidge]

People seem to be forgetting that this is coming from Jerry Chu, who multiple times hasn't been too reliable. Plus, 'soon' can mean various things in business terms. I've seen it referred to stuff that didn't come till 6-8 months later.
Or over a year and a half, in regards to Canadian distribution being sorted out, which is still a problem.

[chris3116]

I hope YTV will show this fall but I might dream about it. January should be a good time. I can see now on Bionix and of course Uncut.

Naruto with Destiny with Inuyasha WOW WOW WOW and all UNCUT. Bionix will be awesome. Bionix crushes Toonami anytime if it's the plan. I expect Bionix will expand this fall. And of course, the original SEED might be on weeknights with reruns of Inuyasha.

Destiny will probably have the same voice actors like SEED. Lacus and Kira should change. I want to see who will play Shinn.

[Sampo]

Hmm, that was quick...


If it does make TV (more than likely Cartoon Network), it won't be this year. Both Toonami and <pipe dream> Adult Swim </pipe dream> look to be chock-full of premieres this year.
...
I agree. I think they will air this sometime next year since they will need quite a bit of time to go through the show with their neon colored scissors, digi paint, find clips to loop, plant and grown some Miracle Gro trees, find some crappy unique sci-fi sound effects to replace the actual sound effects, and finally use toned down diaolog to go along with all that.


if Destiny goes to Toonami I just hope it is good unlike Seed I also hope they would air the Seed movies maybe I could stomach those over the show Meh. Same characters except LOTS of new faces, more Gundams, and the show is better paced than Seed. Although, I hate the "main character". He is so similar to another character in Seed. Then you got that other guy with recycled gimmic so he appears "COOOL" like another character in Seed. That made me shake my head and sigh.

Anyway, this is good news to hear.

[Duke]

if Destiny goes to Toonami I just hope it is good unlike Seed I also hope they would air the Seed movies maybe I could stomach those over the show
Half the world's biggest cities get blown up. Including Philly, which is about 20 minutes away from where I am right now...

[Rabi~en~Rose]

Meh. Same characters except LOTS of new faces, more Gundams, and the show is better paced than Seed. Although, I hate the "main character". He is so similar to another character in Seed. Then you got that other guy with recycled gimmic so he appears "COOOL" like another character in Seed. That made me shake my head and sigh.

that doesnt give me much hope :(


Half the world's biggest cities get blown up. Including Philly, which is about 20 minutes away from where I am right now...

and this gives me even less hope! :(

on the other hand you never know until you try it! also if Seed is getting good ratings then .hack twilight might also be doing so as well :anime:

[IanC]

Speaking as someone who owns the SEED SEs (including the excellent box) on JPR2 (though ill be picking em up for the dub/subs) they are roughly an hour and 45 mins each. I think the 3rd is around 2 hrs.

They arent widescreen... Its cropped WS, so you loss some footage at the top and the bottom.

[Ryoutarou]

Half the world's biggest cities get blown up. Including Philly, which is about 20 minutes away from where I am right now... Yeah, but we get that 'lovely little song' so it's okay the worlds ending as long as we have a pop singer to give us hope! :sweat: Sorry...Reminds me of Macross somehow <<;

[NickWhiz1]

Remember folks, don't talk about stuff that could potentially be edited if the show airs. Even though it hasn't been announced yet (and it may not be on TV at all), we still shouldn't give any ideas.

[rubberchicken]

Remember folks, don't talk about stuff that could potentially be edited if the show airs. Even though it hasn't been announced yet (and it may not be on TV at all), we still shouldn't give any ideas.

If they edit that, there'll be no point in airing the show at all. Its story won't exist without one of its most significant plot events.

[Ryoutarou]

If they edit that, there'll be no point in airing the show at all. Its story won't exist without one of its most significant plot events.I think he was talking about the insert song, not the event itself.

[NickWhiz1]

Yes, I know it's critical to the plot (very critical, in fact), but still, you don't want to give them any ideas edit-wise.

[William C. Maune]

Plus, the fact that it is critical to the plot is even more reason to not give them any reasons to edit it.

[Vu Man]

The part that interested me the most about the interview was Jerry's answer to why many shows are released on seven DVDs nowadays. Apparently it's true that there is more competition and companies need to do this in order to make money. That's true since a couple very popular shows are being released almost simultaneously (Chrono Crusade and Read or Die).


Meh. Same characters except LOTS of new faces, more Gundams, and the show is better paced than Seed. Although, I hate the "main character". He is so similar to another character in Seed. Then you got that other guy with recycled gimmic so he appears "COOOL" like another character in Seed. You know the commercial. "Knockoff Char Masks, they're magically malicious!" However I'm not very keen on what Destiny is doing with the Zakus and Goufs. I saw the pink one at the beginning of Phase 19 and I was somewhat saddened. The Gouf is my fav. mobile suit and I never thought a model with so much battle experience would be "re-imagined for a new generation" like that.

[Ryoutarou]

Plus, the fact that it is critical to the plot is even more reason to not give them any reasons to edit it.Unless they plan on making their own plot for the thing...But Bandai isn't that dumb ^^;

[rubberchicken]

Plus, the fact that it is critical to the plot is even more reason to not give them any reasons to edit it.

Honestly... if they'd really be that stupid, it's a wonder they're even in business.

[Duke]

However I'm not very keen on what Destiny is doing with the Zakus and Goufs. I saw the pink one at the beginning of Phase 19 and I was somewhat saddened. The Gouf is my fav. mobile suit and I never thought a model with so much battle experience would be "re-imagined for a new generation" like that.
The pink Zaku is for decoration only for when "Lacus" performs her concerts. The orange Gouf is the latest model and goes into battle soon.

[Pepperidge]

Last night in the Seed-Fansub IRC channel, Jerry Chu (who was tracing comments telling him to die for licensing Destiny) said the following in regards to Gundam SEED's ratings in North America:

'Its doing well on it's new timeslot [on CN]' and 'its kicking ass in Canada.'

*puts on "Destiny for Bionix in Q4 2005" T-shirt*

[HellCat]

Last night in the Seed-Fansub IRC channel, Jerry Chu (who was tracing comments telling him to die for licensing Destiny) said the following in regards to Gundam SEED's ratings in North America:

'Its doing well on it's new timeslot [on CN]' and 'its kicking ass in Canada.'

*puts on "Destiny for Bionix in Q4 2005" T-shirt*
No chance for the UK?

[Pepperidge]

Nobody asked, but I doubt Jerry would even know. :sad:

[IanC]

No chance for the UK?
Well beez have the rights to SEED, so they would probably get the sequal too

[HellCat]

Well beez have the rights to SEED, so they would probably get the sequal too
I was more reffering to the chances of a TV airing. When it comes to DVDs, I'll stick to imports. Bandai US put out a better product then Beez plus I'd rather support a leg of the Bandai empire which actually tried to make the franchise sell and actually cares about the fans.

[IanC]

When it comes to DVDs, I'll stick to imports.
Good for you then :yawn:

[HellCat]

Good for you then :yawn:
I was reffering to Gundam-only releases and a few odd exceptions. It isn't my fault most of the titles I want aren't available within the UK and usually when they are they're of lesser quality. I'm all for supporting the UK anime industry but why should I settle for sub-par product just for that?

[Pepperidge]

Their SEED DVD release sounds top notch. I'd buy it if I lived in the UK. Plus they'll probably be less than what the R1's cost in Canada. ><

Toonami UK is just stupid for not airing SEED. Stupid. STUPID.

[Botman]

Yeah, but we get that 'lovely little song' so it's okay the worlds ending as long as we have a pop singer to give us hope!
So, the Earth's cities get destroyed, while the Coordinators sing?

If this is how the writers are going to treat the Naturals, I just may skip watching this.

[Riza Hawkeye]

So, the Earth's cities get destroyed, while the Coordinators sing?

If this is how the writers are going to treat the Naturals, I just may skip watching this. You're taking that completely out of context. Do you honestly think Coordinators were singing and dancing the streets when that happens? Blue is refering to this:
Lacus and Kira are in a shelter with some orphans as the destruction happens around them. When the children get upset she sings to calm them down.

[Botman]

You're taking that completely out of context. Do you honestly think Coordinators were singing and dancing the streets when that happens? Blue is refering to this:
Lacus and Kira are in a shelter with some orphans as the destruction happens around them. When the children get upset she sings to calm them down.
No. I didn't actually think that.

I simply thought that Lacus was singing from the safety of the Plants, and they were showing clips of destruction during the song.

But still, the main character is a ZAFT soldier, and from what I've read, Djibril isn't a very worthy successor to Azrael. Not a very good setup for someone with my...alternative allegiances.

[Riza Hawkeye]

No. I didn't actually think that.

I simply thought that Lacus was singing from the safety of the Plants, and they were showing clips of destruction during the song.

But still, the main character is a ZAFT soldier, and from what I've read, Djibril isn't a very worthy successor to Azrael. Not a very good setup for someone with my...alternative allegiances.Destiny is being told more from the point of view of ZAFT, where SEED was told from the point of view of the EA. A lot of things have changed from SEED:
Both Lacus and Kira live in Orb, Lacus isn't associated with the PLANTS anymore, Kira isn't with any military organization and neither is just about everyone else from SEED, and Orb is with the EA.

Neo is a better character to look up to in the EA. I'm not sure if his views on Coordinators are the same as Azrael's though, since he hasn't really expressed any feelings on Coordinators. Djibril hasn't gotten enough scene time to say he's not a worthy successor to Azrael, at least in my opinion. Both Azrael and Djibril's objectives are the same, that much is true. Then there's also Yuna with Orb, but he's a little bit of a coward.

[HellCat]

Their SEED DVD release sounds top notch. I'd buy it if I lived in the UK. Plus they'll probably be less than what the R1's cost in Canada. ><

Toonami UK is just stupid for not airing SEED. Stupid. STUPID.
I'm 7 discs into Bandai's 10 disc run of SEED, so I think I'll stick with them. The only release I'm likely to buy from Beez in the coming months is Last Blitz of Zeon.

I could understand Ian's feelings if I was saying "I'm going to ignore the UK anime industry and then complain when it doesn't perform", but I'm not. The fact is that US anime releases are generally better then their UK counterparts, especially for a series like Gundam which they're only just starting to look at the prospects of over here. I want to support the industry but if a superior product is available to me it makes sense to go with that. I was VERY close to buying the UK release of Excel Saga but after much hunting in NY I found the Imperfect Collection boxset and snagged that.