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Nelson
12-01-2001, 09:16 PM
Here's is what I hope that will become an important traditional thread here on TTTP...

Starting on the first day of every month, I will pick a major cartoon star and to offer a brief history of the character and present my three top toon picks of the star of the month.This will help toon heads get a chance to get to know the character, the history, and the films.Bascially, I want to give fans to checkout of the major animated characters(outside WB, MGM, Parmount) from the Hollywood studios during the "Golden Age Of Animation".

So lets begin, shall we?

This month's toon star of the month, is the very first animated feline of the silver screen....

KRAZY KAT

Today, Krazy Kat is best known for the famous comic strip than his animated cartoons, largely due to the fact that the cartoons didn't really live up to the comic strip during Krazy's long apperance on the silver screen.
Lengendary Cartoonist George Herriman created the famous Kat and mouse, Ignatz in the early 1900s and became an instant hit with the American public.In 1916, the Heast-Vitagraph company brought the famous comic strip Kat & Mouse team to the silver screen at the Bray Studios in New York City.

Krazy Kat made his screen debut in the cartoon titled, "Introducing Krazy Kat And Igantz Mouse", released on Febuary.18, 1916.What is interesting is the fact the Krazy made his debut three years before Pat Sullivan brought "Felix The Cat" to the screenin 1919.The "Krazy Kat" series did have some major setbacks in bringing the famous Kat to the screen.The animators weren't really loyal to the comic strip, and by the mid-twenties Krazy Kat was a solo act on his own.The earliest shorts only lasted around three to four mintues.

In the 1920's, Herriman's supporting characters in the strip Igantz Mouse, and Offica Pup were forgotten and Krazy was the star.Another big change in the animated series from the comic strip was the fact that "Krazy" was a female, but that all changed when the NYC animators made him a male in the mid-twenties.Krazy really didn't have the "personality" that his counterpart "Felix" had, but the cartoon series did managed to be a success with moviegoers.

With the success of the first sound cartoon "STEAMBOAT WILLIE" in 1928, all of the other cartoon studios(east & west coast) followed suit.Cartoon Producer, Charles Mintz was releasing the "Krazy Kat" cartoons through Paramount Pictures, and when the decison was made that the studio would release Max Fleischer's cartoons for the sound era, Mintz took the series to Columbia Pictures in 1929.At the same time, Walt Disney was releasing his shorts through distrbiution with Columbia, and Mintz was determined to make Krazy a big star right along with Mickey Mouse.

By 1930, Krazy did not look anything like Herriman's comic strip style, as Krazy became a Mickey Mouse lookalike until 1934 when once again the animators redesinged him.The the studio did make some great "Krazy" cartoon one-reelers during the 30s and such films did focus on reality such as the 1930 short, "LAMBS WILL GAMBLE", which was about the famous Wall Street Market crash of 1929, in the cartoon, Krazy plays a stockbroker trying a way to get his finances back on track, while other brokers try to committ suicide and other brokers rake in the money.

Another excellent Depression-era cartoon was 1932's "PROSPERITY BLUES", was about what was going on in America during the 1930's.Krazy is trying to make a living selling apples and a customer slaps a smiling face on Krazy, and spreading happiness all around.What's interesting about this cartoon is that the title song is "Smile Darn Ya Smile" which was the title of the "Merrie Melodies" short of the same name a year before.During this time Krazy Kat was the main star at Columbia(since Disney left the studio after a dispute) and did manged to have a successful career in the sound era as well.

Years later, the animators decided to make a "TRUE" Krazy Kazt cartoon, the short was titleled "LIL ANJIL" , and was true to George Herriman's comic style.Ignatz Mouse and Offica Pup were brought back in this short, but it was to late, at this time movie goers couldn't understand why this Kat looked so different than other previous cartoon shorts and a few years (in 1940)later Krazy faded from the silver screen unitl 1962, when Paramount/Famous Studios released a series called "Comic Kings" and featured a new "Krazy & Ignatz" in the style of Herriman's vision, but the series failed at the box office.

Today Krazy Kat is just another forgotten cartoon character from the movie screen, but the comic strips live on.Some of the top notch animators who worked on the series was, William C.Nolan, Samus Culhane, Art Davis, Sid Marcus, Jack Carr, Ben Harrison during the entire screen history of Krazy Kat.

MY TOP 3 KARZY KAT PICKS OF THE MONTH....

The Bandmaster-1930 This is a great American muscial concert short in which Krazy play a muscial conductor in a park.Cartoon Musical director, Joe DeNat makes a wonderful score for this cartoon and it doesn't have a plot just a concert in the park on a sunny day.Krazy does chancge into some famous celebraties in this short, from Paul Whiteman, Charlie Chaplin and Ben Turpin.

BARS AND STRIPES-1931 One of my personal favorite Krazy shorts, in which musical instruments declare a major war on Krazy Kat.I have screened this cartoon to people and this is a big hit with cartoon fans today.

LIL ANJIL-1936 The only TRUE "Krazy Kat" cartoon produced by Columbia Pictures.A true George Herriman style animation short, in it the cartoon Igantz gets arrested by Offica Pup and is sent to jail and it's up to Krazy to get her love back.
This is just a wonderful cartoon and when viewing, you might notice the the voice of Offica Pup is played by voice actor, WILLIAM COSTELLO, who was the voice of Gus Gorrilla on the "Betty Boop" radio show and is best remembered for being the first voice of "Popeye the Sailor" in the Max Fleischer cartoons.

I certainly hope you enjoy my monthly tribute to Krazy and all of the other famous cartoon stars from Hollywood's past.
See Ya Next Month! :D

Jack
12-01-2001, 09:25 PM
I was wondering, how did they handle the backgrounds in "LIL ANJIL" since Herriman would always make the background different in ever panel of his strip.


Jack :confused:

Joe Tully
12-01-2001, 09:40 PM
That was a very interesting read, Nelson. Thanks!

There are some Krazy Kat cartoons online at http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/oahtml/oachron.html

Check the year 1916. You can download those and see what Nelson is talking about!

Matthew Hunter
12-01-2001, 11:25 PM
Of course I knew about them, but I have never seen a cartoon featuring Krazy, but I'll certainly check that out. I love the old comic strip, a relative loaned me a book telling the history of Herriman's strip, very interesting. That may have just been the strangest comic strip ever created.
-Matthew

Nelson
12-02-2001, 11:23 PM
Thanks my friends, I'm really glad you liked it very much :D :D :D
But I just need a special favor, could you please make my "star of the month" an important thread? I would really apperciate it so that way maybe new members or our regulars who haven't seen it yet could learn more about the feratured star every month, it would mean a lot to me..Thanks!

And to let you guys know, that I do own a large amount of Krazy Kat shorts, from the silent to the sound era.And every title(except for Krazy's debut) I mentioned, I own on video, so if you want to see for yourself some great Krazy Kat cartoons, just drop me an e-mail.

nelsonhughes@hotmail.com

And here's what's coming up in the months ahead for the "Toon Star Of The Month"

Andy Panda, Betty Boop, Flip The Frog, Mighty Mouse, Bugs Bunny, Scrappy, Woody Woodepcker, Felix The Cat, and many more to come, so enjoy my toon family!

Bobby B
12-03-2001, 03:09 AM
Originally posted by Nelson
And to let you guys know, that I do own a large amount of Krazy Kat shorts, from the silent to the sound era.And every title(except for Krazy's debut) I mentioned, I own on video, so if you want to see for yourself some great Krazy Kat cartoons, just drop me an e-mail.


The print I've seen of "The Great Cheese Robbery" seems to end abruptly. Is that how it really ends, or did someone edit out Ignatz throwing a brick at Krazy?

Nelson
12-03-2001, 11:26 AM
I'm not saying that this is true, but there can be reasons on why the film ends abruptly and it could be two reasons.

1.The video company that relesaed the film might have accidently edited the ending by mistake.

2.Or maybe the reason for the film ending abruptly could be because of nitrate film decomposion.

Nelson
12-03-2001, 12:58 PM
A "BIG" thanks fellas :D :D :D for making it important an important thread form now on guys..You are the best :)

Pietro
12-03-2001, 02:49 PM
Very interesting Nelson!
Did you know that Gene Deitch (the creator of Tom Terrific) directed the "Comic Kings" Krazy cartoons?

-Pietro:D

Nelson
12-03-2001, 03:07 PM
Yes I did...I do have two of those cartoons(very bad video quality) from the short lived "Comic Kings" series released in 1962.Igantz Mouse and Offica Pup was voiced by Paul Frees in the shorts.Deitch did a good job at animating the best possible Herriman type style, but the films themselves aren't really all that good.

If everyone want's to see some "REAL" Krazy Kat cartoons, then just check out the silents and the Columbia sound cartoons cause those are the real ones worth watching.

Bobby B
12-05-2001, 04:44 AM
Originally posted by Nelson
I'm not saying that this is true, but there can be reasons on why the film ends abruptly and it could be two reasons.

1.The video company that released the film might have accidently edited the ending by mistake.


It couldn't have been this, because I saw it in a theatre. (RECENTLY!)


Plot summary: Ignatz is the cheese robber. Krazy gets arrested for the latest robbery (by an ostrich, not Offissa Pup) because she's found at the scene of the crime. Ignatz reads about the arrest, but the paper doesn't reveal the identity of the arrestee. Ignatz's conscience starts literally haunting him because an innocent is in jail for his crime. Ignatz turns himself in, then discovers that the prisoner is... "Krazy Kat!". The end.


That seems like a setup for Ignatz to clobber Krazy with a brick, but maybe it just ended that way.

Pietro
12-05-2001, 06:52 AM
I have a very old 16mm print of "The Great Cheese Robbery," with TONS of splices. Infact the film starts when Ignatz is being haunted by conscience. But the ending comes through clear, Ignatz throws the bag of money (he bailed Krazy out with) at Krazy. I can post a picture if you like.

-Pietro:D

Nelson
12-05-2001, 10:15 AM
Pietro-

Yes! please post a picture of that scene, my friend.. :D

Nelson
12-05-2001, 12:50 PM
l will also be posting (and every month) the entire list of films of each featured star of the month, so be on the lookout my friends.

Pietro
12-05-2001, 06:07 PM
Here are the pics of the missing scene:

http://imagep.webphotos.iwon.com//1000013845/1000013845_125200155600PM0.3666803.jpg

http://imagep.webphotos.iwon.com//1000013845/1000013845_125200155600PM0.2808911.jpg

-Pietro:D

Argus Sventon
12-05-2001, 06:15 PM
The inclusion of Bugs Bunny is a surprise, since he's well known. Any reason for his inclusion? Maybe we need to also do "Little Lulu" and Terrytoon stars as well.

Nelson
12-05-2001, 07:39 PM
I'm planning on saving Bugs Bunny as the star of the month for June 2002 as expected for CN "June Bugs Marathon.But here's who will be honored in the coming months

Felix The cat

Andy Panda

Mighty Mouse

Bimbo

The Fox And Crow

Scrappy

Woody Woodpecker

Heckle And Jeckle

There will be more characters to be named at a later time....

The list will not be in the order that you see, I'll will mix the entire list...

Nelson
12-07-2001, 01:04 AM
As my month long salute to Krazy Kat continues, I will give a complete filmography of the entire history of films of Krazy Kat. And first I'll start with the silent films of Krazy Kat....

Hearst-Vitagraph News Pictorial

1916: Intoducing Krazy Kat And Ignatz Mouse (Feb.18), Krazy Kat And Ignatz Mouse Believe In Signs (Feb.21), Krazy Kat And Ignatz Mouse Disscuss The Letter G (Feb.25), Krazy Kat Goes A-Wooing (Feb.29), Krazy Kat And Ignatz Mouse:A Duet, He Made Me Love Him (Mar.3), Krazy Kat And Ignatz Mouse In Their One-Act Tradegy, The Tale of The Nude Tail (Mar.6), Krazy Kat, Bugologist (Mar.13), Krazy Kat And Ignatz Mouse At The Circus (Mar.17, Krazy Kat, Demi Tasse (Mar.21), Krazy Kat To The Resuce (Mar.24), Krazy Kat Invalid (Mar.27), Krazy Kat At The Switchboard (Apr.3), Krazy Kat The Hero (Apr.7), A Tale That Is Knot (Apr.14).

International Film Service Cartoons

1916: Krazy Kat At Looney Park (June.17), A Tempest In A Paint Pot (July.3), A Grid-Iron Hero (Oct.9), The Missing One (Nov.27), Krazy Kat Takes Little Katrina For An Airing (Dec.23).

1917: Throwing The Bull (Feb.4), Roses And Thorns (Mar.11), Robbers And Thieves (Apr.12), The Cook (Apr.29), Moving Day (May.27) All Is Not Gold That Glitters (June.24), A Krazy Katastrophe (Aug.7).

Bray Studio Productions

1920: The Great Cheese Robbery (Jan.16), Love's Labor Lost (Jan.30), The Best Mouse Loses (Mar.3), A Tax From Th Rear (Apr.14), Kats Is Kats (June.4), The Chinese Honeymoon (July.3), A Family Affair (Oct.25).

1921: The Hinges On The Bar Romm Dor (Jan.8), How I Became Krazy (Jan.21), The Awful Spook (Jan.28), Scrambled Eagles (Jan.28), The Wire-Less Wire Walker (Feb.26).

Winkler Pictures (Released Through R.C.Pictures Corp.)

1925: Hot Dogs (Oct.1), The Smoke Eater (Oct.15), A Uke-Calamity (Nov.15), The New Champ (Nov.30), James And Gems (Dec.1), Monkey Business (Dec.13).

1926:Battling For Barleycorn (Jan.1), A Picked Romance (Jan.15), The Ghost Fakir (Feb.1), Sucker Game (Feb.13), Back To Backing (Mar.1), Double Crossed (Mar.15), Invalid (Mar.28), Scents And Nonsense (Apr.1), Feather Pushers (Apr.15), Cops Suey (May.1), The Chicken Chaser (Sept.2), East Is Best (Sept.22), Shore Enough (Oct.25), Watery Gravey (Oct.25), Cheese It (Nov.8), Dots And Dashes (Nov.22), Gold Struck (Dec.10).

1927: Hose Play (Jan.3), Busy Birds (Jan.17), Sharp Flats (Jan.31), Kiss Crossed (Feb.14), A Fool's Errand (Feb.28), Stomach Trouble (Mar.14), The Rug Fiend (Mar.28), Hire A Half (Apr.11), Don Go On (Apr.23), Burnt Up (May.9), On The Trail (June.6), Best Wishes (July.4), Black And White (July 10), Wild Rivals (July.18).

Paramount/Famous Players/Lasky

1927: Sealing Whacks (Aug.1), Tired Wheels (Aug.13), Bee Cause (Aug.15), Web Feet (Aug.27), Skinny (Aug.29), School Daze (Spet.10), Rail Rode (Sept.24), Aero Nuts (Oct.8), Topsy Turvy (Oct.23), Pie Curs (Nov.5), For Crime's Sake (Nov.19), Milk Made (Dec.3), Stork Exchange (Dec.17) Grid Ironed (Dec.31).

1928: Pig Styles (Jan.14), Shadow Theory (Jan.28), Ice Boxed (Feb.11), A Hunger Stroke (Feb.25), Wire And Fired (Mar.10), Love Sunk (Mar.24), Tong Tied (Apr.7), A Bum Steer (Apr.21), Gold Bricks (May.5), The Long Count (May.19), The Patent Medicine Kid (June.2), Stage Coached (June.16), The Rain Dropper (June.30), A Companionate Mirage (July.14), News Reeling (Aug.4), Baby Feud (Aug.16), Sea Sword (Sept.5), The Show Vote (Sept.15), The Phantom Trail (Sept.29), Come Easy, Go Slow (Oct.15), Beaches And Scream (Oct.29), Nicked Nags (Nov.9), Liar Bird (Nov.23), Still Waters (Dec.7), Night Owls (Dec.22).

1929: Cow Belles (Jan.5), Hospitalities (Jan.18), Reduced Weights (Feb.1), Flying Yeast (Feb.15), Vanshing Screams (Mar.1), A Joint Affair (Mar.15), Sheep Skinned (Mar.19), The Lone Shark (Apr.12), Golf Socks (May.10), Petting Larceny (May.24), Hat Aches (June.7), A Fur Peace (June.22), Auto Suggestion (July.6), Sleepy Holler (July.10)

Coming later this month, the Krazy Kat "TALKIES"

Bobby B
12-07-2001, 03:40 AM
Originally posted by Pietro Shakarian
Here are the pics of the missing scene:

http://imagep.webphotos.iwon.com//1000013845/1000013845_125200155600PM0.3666803.jpg

http://imagep.webphotos.iwon.com//1000013845/1000013845_125200155600PM0.2808911.jpg

-Pietro:D


Thank you! I was semi-right about the ending.

Nelson
12-12-2001, 12:01 AM
I just discovered today that I have several more silent Krazy Kat cartoons on video, but there has been a major snag trying to find out what titles these cartoons really are.

First off, the cartoons are under "Crazy Cat" but I'm trying to find out what exactly the name of the shorts are.It's cleary Krazy Kat & Ignatz in these cartoons.It looks to be 16mm prints and they aren't really bad prints either.

I keep everyone posted if I can locate the real titles to these films...

Jack
12-12-2001, 12:25 AM
Having never seen a Columbia Krazy Kat cartoon, I just thought I would ask: Is the quote of Shamus Culhane that "If you had a gag where somebody was hit by something, you automatically had it happen three times, because you used the drawing over again." true? Broken record-style gags sound kind of strange, but funny in a way.


Jack :confused:
...and how did they handle the backgrounds in "LIL ANJIL?"

Nelson
12-12-2001, 01:23 AM
Answer to your first question...Yes it's true, the animators would use the same drawing over and over, sometimes to save money so that they wouldn't want to go over budget on a single seven minute cartoon, but true the gags were very funny.

Answer to youe second question...When the animators went out to make a real Krazy Kat cartoon, "Lil Anjil" that stuck by their words.The animators were true and loyal to Herriman's comic strip style.The backgrounds what you would see in the comic strip, was used in that cartoon in true Herriman fashion, that he might would have liked.

Nelson
12-13-2001, 11:56 AM
For "Krazy Kat Dec.Star Of The Month" I will be helping out fans with the release dates for Krazy's sound films from 1929-1962 this weekend.Should be a good one.

lislebartman
12-13-2001, 05:02 PM
Originally posted by Nelson
I'm planning on saving Bugs Bunny as the star of the month for June 2002 as expected for CN "June Bugs Marathon.But here's who will be honored in the coming months

Felix The cat

Andy Panda

Mighty Mouse

Bimbo

The Fox And Crow

Scrappy

Woody Woodpecker

Heckle And Jeckle

There will be more characters to be named at a later time....

The list will not be in the order that you see, I'll will mix the entire list...

While I like your upcoming choices immensely, some member of the TTTP might not have had the pleasure of seeing some of these films (i.e. - Felix, the Fox & Crow). Maybe you can conduct some poll as to whom has seen what series as to not make anyone feel excluded from future threads...

Just a suggestion. :D