New Batman Movie

[The New Batman]

Is Batman: Year 1 the new Batman movie coming out? If it is, I don't understand why. Obviously, the movie will discuss the origins of Batman. But, weren't his origins basically done in the first Batman movie back in '89? Second, if they're going to do something like "Phantasm" (only the flash back scenes), they're making a mistake. A Batman fan will want to see a movie about his origins in detail, but I'm don't think the average Joe will care. It would be much wiser for them to do a fifth movie with only 1 villian, The Scarecrow, and get rid of Joel Schumacher. Batman needs a good action director, unlike Schumacher who preferred to get better angles of Batman's butt than worry about the action scenes. A director from a James Bond movie would be ideal. If they make a "year 1" movie, they're basically re-writing Batman's cinema history, which I don't agree with. What do you think?

[MatchesMalone]

As much as I enjoy the first two Batman films (and loathe the last two), I think it's time for a fresh start. As great as Burton's take on Batman was in the first movie, it still wasn't very close to the comics' Batman that many of us long-time fans know so well.

My vote would be to enjoy the first set of films for what they are but also recognize that as a franchise it really began to "tank" pretty bad. I welcome a new franchise and line of continuity within Batman films. Hey, if we didn't redefine Batman on film from time to time, 1989's Batman could have been a new film version of the old Adam West series. Which was great in it's own right but not worth perpetuating.

I'm really hoping that Batman:Year One nails the essence of Batman and is also a commercial success. Then, we Batfans have many more years of fresh Batman films to look forward to. Otherwise, a fifth movie within current film continuity would be just another installment in an already dead line of Batfilms.

Also, with Frank Miller involved, Year One really could become a Batfan's "dream come true."

[The Mad Hatter]

New beginnings aren't a bad thing... as horrible as Batman and Robin was, a fresh start is certainly in order. Besides, the public needs to see that Bats is a great character again, and trying to yield fruit from the fallow, nipple-strewn field of Joel Schumaker is pretty futile.

[Samhaine]

After seeing PI and Requiem for a Dream, I must say that I have complete faith in the new Batman movie. Darren Aronofsky is a great director, and I can't wait to see how he handles Batman (he may, dare I say it?, be more capable than Burton).

[BWDK]

The last 2 movies differ so much from Burton's that a restart is necessary. Otherwise we would have had another Schuhmacher movie, which probably would have been even worse than Batman & Robin.

[X-human]

Batman needs a fresh start. Tim Burton's movie was good because it wasn't bad (if you know what I mean). But Batman's origins could have been told a lot better. Darren Aronofsky is a great choice as a director, and with Frank Miller as the writer, I think this movie be more like Unbreakable than anything else (with action of course). X-Men gave the superhero film industry a great shot in the arm, and with any luck Sam Raimi's Spider-Man will make a very entertaining film that won't disappoint.

You wouldn't hear a peep from me if everything was tossed away and they started with Year One and ignored everything else. As anyone who's read the comic knows, this film will toss away both of Burton's flicks anyways. They should do as much with Superman. The first was great, but they need a new beginning.

[The New Batman]

I'm starting to change my opinion about starting the franchise over. I hope they get Danny Elfman back. He made a great score for the first 2 films. The score for the last 2 (as well as everything about the last 2) sucked. I also hope they make a real dark Batman. Who do you think will play the new Batman or you do you think would play a good Batman?

[The Game]

So basically they're restarting the film series, right? Am I the only person that this bothers? I don't know, but I think that's just stupid. And why are the badguys Joker and Catwoman? That bothers me even more. If you ask me, it should be one badguy. Or it would be okay if they had these badguys, who had recurring roles in later movies... I don't know, maybe I'm just weird, but it kind of bothers me that they're making the series over. It's like remaking a movie that isn't that old.

P.S. Okay, so Batman and Robin was godawful, but I like Batman Forever. Am I alone?

[Maxie Zeus]

Originally posted by thegame8866
So basically they're restarting the film series, right? Am I the only person that this bothers? I don't know, but I think that's just stupid. And why are the badguys Joker and Catwoman? That bothers me even more. If you ask me, it should be one badguy.

I don't think we know yet for sure who the bad guys will be. In the comic it is not really "Catwoman" who shows up, just Selena Kyle. And the Joker may only be in it briefly at the end. So we shouldn't read too much into the vague rumors that are wafting around.

As for starting over, it's been said many times: The series fell so far at the end, that about the only way Warners can re-create wide interest is by starting over with a new "event" movie.

[Karkull]

Y'know, even though they are starting over, I do wish that they'd keep close to Danny Elfman's score from the first two films.

[The Mad Hatter]

Very true, Elfman really nailed the gothic pomp of Batman.

[X-human]

I keep mixing up Year One and the first Batman movie script's plots, I'll have to read Year One again... Or maybe it's best that I don't so the movie is more fresh... Anyways,

::More Then Just Possible Spoilers::

as said above (I'll just help confirm) Catwoman and The Joker have very small parts (in the comic), and really are not the conflicting characters. It's mostly Batman versus the GCPD. There is a love story, but it doesn't involve Bruce Wayne, so I wonder if the studio will pressure Frank Miller to make an addition of a love interest for Bats.

::End Spoilers::

This movie will not be a series of flashbacks, but rather just set a little bit in the past. Much like 1994's The Shadow was (but not that far back of course). The movie will have a timeless feeling, but everything on set will be pre-1980s at least. (If you've seen the first Ghostbusters, it'll be a bit like that.) Though some futuristic equipment may be used, it'll look like that era's vision of the future (if you catch my drift).

[Naraht]

Am I the only one who didn't love the 1st movie?
I didn't dislike it...I just didn't think it was everything everyone thought it was. I didn't like Keaton as Batman (though....he was betterer than Clooney & Kilmer) I didn't like Nicholson as the Joker (he wasn't funny. Jack can be funny...he wasn't in this movie) and I didn't like Gordon (and I still don't.)

Also, was I the only one who noticed poor Harvey Dent, got spashed with Acid in the 3rd movie, and it changed his skin color from Black to White? (Billy Dee Williams of Star Wars fame played Dent in the 1st movie)

I'm not sure I want to see yet another retelling of Batman's origin....especially since it's been told in all 4 of the earlier movies (not so much in Movie 2, which I really didn't like at all. I allmost didn't like it as much as I didn't like 3 and 4)

I'd like to see a No Mans Land movie, cause that was a kick ass story, and would translate well into film in my opinion. Another idea would be the whole Knightfall story arc. Bane is such a Kick Ass villian (when he's not protrayed as a really strong human looking pokemon, like they did in movie 4 aka Crap on a stick...sorry..it was) he's the only villian in cannon other than Ra's who has figured out who Batman was. He Kicked Bruce's ass...it was a good story.

Of course, what I really want to see is a Live Action BB movie. I really liked Batman Beyond, because you've got the whole Bruce/Terry releationship, each identifying themselves as Batman..yet they don't truely identify with each other. My favotire thing about the show was the interaction between the two...I never got the people who wanted more Terry, less Bruce, cause it was the two of them that made it work. The Barbara influence was excelent too. Anyways..that's what I think.

>=p

[MattL.]

None of the films have really done justice to the character. Even the Burton films basically suffered from beetlejuice syndrome.

I would like to see Batman played as a haunted detetective instead of a psychotic vigilante. Basically, I'd want the makers of the film to be able to think outside the Frank Miller box like what Bruce Timm and co. did.

However, sine Miller himself is writing this thing then I doubt that will happen. My fear is getting something thats really just as silly an extreme as the Schumacher films only trading one extreme for the other.

Instead of a homoerotic neon version of the 60's show we get a beerslam of Robocop style satire with the bledout bleakness of Seven.

It takes more than just making Batman "dark" to make a good Batman story or series. and yes folks, you *can* go *too* dark with Batman.

[The Game]

I didn't dislike it...I just didn't think it was everything everyone thought it was. I didn't like Keaton as Batman (though....he was betterer than Clooney & Kilmer)

I couldn't agree more. So for we haven't seen the best Batman can be live action. I'm not even sure Keaton would have been the best Batman if Burton had directed all four films. I mean really. Kilmer and Clooney weren't great, but their performances are overshadowed by the fact that their movies are poorly done (particularlly Clooney). Which leads me to my next question: Who should play Batman in the new movie?