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ShadowBrat
03-02-2005, 01:20 PM
I stumbled upon this "review" of w.i.t.c.h. and thaught you guys might get a kick out of it. Their main argument seems to stem from the fact that Disney=Evil for some reason



Witchcraft: The fab five are not witches per se. When Hay Lin’s dying grandmother passes down the Guardian legacy, she tells them, “We aren’t witches. We aren’t even fairies. We’re something entirely different.… The forces of nature lie within you, and from now and forever, they will be with you.” However, there are enough similarities to witchcraft and the Wiccan religion to give parents pause: control of the elements, hieroglyphic symbols, “willing” wishes into reality (as opposed to chants or spells), etc.So... they aren't witches... but they are? Wait a minute... Control of the Elements? hieroglyphic symbols? Chants!? Oh No! This means Captain Planet and the Planeteers are Witches too!!!:eek:


Use of Powers: W.I.T.C.H.’s main mission is to close the 12 portals in the Veil that allow evil Metamoorans to enter earth. A lot of their magical energy is spent on the slightly less fantastical: manipulating teachers with mind control, sharpening pencils telepathically, ringing the school bell prematurely, transforming a wardrobeAre... are they complaining about frivolous use of powers? Man... You'd think that would be the least of their worries.


Charms: Each girl has a unique pendant charm bearing the symbol of the element they control and uses it to transform into a supergirl. (Watch for replicas of these to turn up on store shelves.) What!? No they don't? ANd what's the angle here? Merchandizing is evil?


Disrespect and Put-Downs: Parents are barely tolerated and often downright disrespected. Cornelia describes herself in “a rage of haze” over a fight with her mom and calls her little sister “irritating enough to be twins.” Teachers are treated rudely (even though they’re prone to bodily possession by Metamoorans) and described in less-than-complimentary terms. Another girl stomps out of the house, ignoring her mom’s command to return. Students outside the circle of five often field fast and furious insults: two guys are described as “dumb, giggling peas in a pod,” the bad-boy gang is called “huge, sloppy lunks … with a collective IQ of 22.”What's this!? Parents fight with thier children!? Girl finds younger Sister irritating!? Hokey Smokes! THIS HAS NEVER HAPPENED IN THE HISTORY OF MANKIND!!:ack:


Boy-Girl Relationships: Most of the girls go through “crushes” faster than you can turn the page. Boys are referred to as “hotties.” One friend-turned-enemy is described as having that “heavy-lidded, flush-cheeked look that screamed ‘boy crazy.’” One of the girls is physically threatened by a male bully.What are they saying exactly? girls having feelings for boys is evil and wrong?


Body Image: The girls’ bodies are “enhanced” when they transform from immature, gawky, sometimes bespectacled adolescents into curvy, winged superpowers replete with skintight, skimpy costumes. More than once, transforming powers are misused to attract the latest crush or look good at a social function.I know that they trail off into another Frivolous use of powers at the end there... but are they actually saying that Puberty is evil?


Social Strata: Classmates are quickly sorted into neat categories. Infielders are the popular kids, outfielders are the rebels and misfits, and the “dreaded snufilupigi” are the invisible ones who inhabit the lowest rung of the social ladder.Oh no!:eek: the books are reflecting reality! HOW DARE THEY!!!:mad:


Telepathy: The preferred mode of communication for sharing secrets, planting suggestions in unsuspecting teachers’ minds, and receiving divine interventions.Man... the teachers are the victims in all of this aren't they


Teleporting: By Volume 6, the girls no longer bother with wings, instead traveling at hyperspeed by sheer will.And Teleportation is wrong... why exactly?:confused:


This campy comic-cum-chapter book series combines elements of Harry Potter, Matrix and Lord of the Rings, sans clever storytelling. Without the Disney dynamo behind it, the W.I.T.C.H. “franchise” might easily go unnoticed. Righhhht... it'll go quite unnoticed, It's not at all publishing Juggernaut that sells millions Worldwide evry month.

Freedom Fighter
03-02-2005, 02:43 PM
Funny... I think I did read that article sometime back... someone here might have referenced it, but I don't quite remember.

Anyway, it's just another person (or group of people) blowing smoke just to get attention, overanalyzing things, and, like you mentioned, taking offensive to certain events that actually happen in real life! Most people ignore these 'gripers' anyway, especially me, 'cause it's like I hear them all the time.

People claimed Power Rangers was too violent for kids to be watching, Pokémon were caricatures of evil, and that Kim Possible wasn't a suitable role model because she bares her belly button! Did I ever listen to them? If I did, I wouldn't have come to love those three (and countless other) shows I've watched over the years.

You don't like the show? I'm fine with that. But spewing off nonsense about magical creatures and witchcraft and other taboo things just to get the show off the air? No... those people need to seriously GET A LIFE!

Gokou Ruri
03-02-2005, 04:57 PM
I've read that article a long time ago. Just another one of those over-protective parents articles that stems from a lack of good parenting skills on their part and complain when they let TV/books/games raise their children for them.

Comparing W.I.T.C.H to the Matrix though? Odd..

Yan Lin: Will you choose the red pill, or the blue pill...

Mek
03-02-2005, 05:32 PM
I dunno... my mom would have (and could still) skinned my hide if I ever walked out when she demanded I stay after/during an argument... :shrug:

Hurricane V1
03-03-2005, 12:06 AM
Eh, not to sound annoying but I think you guys are reading too much into it. It looked more like a review made for parents concerned with the content of their children's program. The article didn't seem like it was trying to get anything cancelled and it didn't really seem to pass that much judgement compared to a lot of franchise condeming articles I've read. It pretty much stated the content of the books. I certainly don't think it qualifies to be called a 'witch hunt'.

Hordesman
03-03-2005, 03:22 AM
People claimed Power Rangers was too violent for kids to be watching, Pokémon were caricatures of evil, and that Kim Possible wasn't a suitable role model because she bares her belly button! Did I ever listen to them? If I did, I wouldn't have come to love those three (and countless other) shows I've watched over the years.
What surprises me is how Pokemon complaints were so loud the Pope had to make a statement saying it was fine, then not a peep on YGO where souls go in and out all the time like the body's just a timeshare. Ignorance is a lovely thing in media watchdog-crazed America.

Last year, I had to hear this family friend boast about how his Italian-American group pressured DWSKG into changing character names in Shark Tale, a movie he didn't even see. And the time before he said he liked SpongeBob and thought Kim Possible was a slut or something. Man do I hate getting dragged to dinner with parents' friends.

ShadowBrat
03-03-2005, 10:50 AM
I certainly don't think it qualifies to be called a 'witch hunt'.
It was a Pun.

Captain C
03-03-2005, 04:08 PM
You know, 90% of what this guy is complaining about is natural stuff kids the W.I.T.C.H cast's asge group goes through. Kids fight with their parents. It's inevidable. Why pretend it doesn't exisist. Same thing with find their siblings "annoying." Girls have crushes faster than the speed of light. Since I live with my older AND younger sister, I can tell you that from experience. And tell me that if you had these powers that you wouldn't exploit them for everything they're worth? Not every super hero is Superman people. There. That's my 2 cents.

Gokou Ruri
03-03-2005, 04:55 PM
Yeah, normal kids who got power would also use them for evey-day mundane activities to make life easier, and also to play pranks on people they don't like (Like Danny Phantom)

krazymed
03-04-2005, 10:52 AM
ShadowBrat, the themes mentioned in that review are the exact reasons why the show will do well. Kids love to have magic powers, but not be called evil names like a "witch," fight against adults and siblings, have lots of romance with the opposite sex, and look good doing it too. It's basic marketing to children.

Taranee014
03-04-2005, 05:18 PM
What site is that from? Can you please post the URL?

Martin
03-05-2005, 05:09 PM
I've seen that article as well, and I'm not taking it that hard. No!
Because I've found some URL's for over half a year ago which sometimes are really incredible and making me both mad and cry for laughter!

Last Trumpet Newsletter (http://www.lasttrumpetministries.org/2004/July2004.html)
Mickey Mouse leading children to Hell (http://www.ac18.org/disney/)
The Great Separation: Disney Lusting for Your Tweens (http://www.thegreatseparation.com/newsfront/2004/05/disney_lusting_.html)
Bible Prophecy and The Rapture Report (http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Rhodes/7895/com040504.html)

Well, some of these guys really need a shrink!

But it always can be different. I showed a vicar a W.I.T.C.H. comic to read, and she enjoyed it. She also showed understanding and respect towards Wicca. So there's hope.

Taranee014
03-05-2005, 10:44 PM
Mickey Mouse leading children to Hell (http://www.ac18.org/disney/) *just starts laughing* OMG! That has GOT to be the lamest one yet! :rolleyes2 This person is mad because, he/she has something against Bambi! What I want to know is, how old is this person? 6?! :confused:

Ben
03-09-2005, 12:59 PM
So... they aren't witches... but they are? Wait a minute... Control of the Elements? hieroglyphic symbols? Chants!? Oh No! This means Captain Planet and the Planeteers are Witches too!!!:eek:

Actually if you've thought and read about Captain Planet you've realized that its significantly more radical from a thematic standpoint than WITCH could ever be.

Elyon
04-12-2005, 10:02 PM
Yeah, normal kids who got power would also use them for evey-day mundane activities to make life easier, and also to play pranks on people they don't like (Like Danny Phantom)Totally. I don't get what they are complainging about. :anime:. I fight with my mom and bro all the time. I know I would use powers to make MY life easier.

ChIbI_MaDdIcHaN
04-13-2005, 12:50 AM
Now that was just ridiculous. So Winx Club must be...totally evil, seeing as their are ACTUAL witches that cast ACTUAL spells on people that do bad things. Heck, even the fairies cast spells.

How silly is this person? I mean come on!:

However, there are enough similarities to witchcraft and the Wiccan religion to give parents pause: control of the elements, hieroglyphic symbols, “willing” wishes into reality (as opposed to chants or spells), etc.Can we say: Sailor Moon anyone? All the Sailor Scouts could control an element, every last one of them had a 'symbol'. And Serena had this pen that could transform her into any person she wanted it to when she wanted to *decieve* people while on a mission.


Use of Powers: W.I.T.C.H.’s main mission is to close the 12 portals in the Veil that allow evil Metamoorans to enter earth. A lot of their magical energy is spent on the slightly less fantastical: manipulating teachers with mind control, sharpening pencils telepathically, ringing the school bell prematurely, transforming a wardrobeOh come ON! If you were a young pre-teen, teenager in school with powers like that: you WOULDN'T use them to do something like that, at least once? Get real. The room cleaning bit is a LIFE SAVER for those who are naturally messy.


Charms: Each girl has a unique pendant charm bearing the symbol of the element they control and uses it to transform into a supergirl. (Watch for replicas of these to turn up on store shelves.)The only girl who has a "pendant" is Will. And all the elements seemed to be locked in that charm. (Except for rare circumstances when they transformed themselves, like Cornelia did once.) So that makes that statement incorrect. And since the Heart of Card. is a rather pretty pendent, I wouldn't mind if it DID show up on shelves. (Like the Time Turner from Harry Potter...)


Disrespect and Put-Downs: Parents are barely tolerated and often downright disrespected. Cornelia describes herself in “a rage of haze” over a fight with her mom and calls her little sister “irritating enough to be twins.” Teachers are treated rudely (even though they’re prone to bodily possession by Metamoorans) and described in less-than-complimentary terms. Another girl stomps out of the house, ignoring her mom’s command to return. Students outside the circle of five often field fast and furious insults: two guys are described as “dumb, giggling peas in a pod,” the bad-boy gang is called “huge, sloppy lunks … with a collective IQ of 22.” . . .Are you kidding me? Seriously, was this guy serious???
You show me a REAL pre-teen/teenager that has never ONCE gotten into an argument with their mother or gotten angry at her (espically if it's a girl) and I'll show you the pod they came out of. And the little sister bit is down right laughable. Obviously, this person just doesn't HAVE a younger brother or sister, otherwise, that sentence never would have came out of their mouth. And the teachers? Again, laughable. Will didn't like her history teacher because he was dating her mother. Talk ABOUT awkward. Again, get real. There will ALWAYS be that one teacher that a student ends up hating and talks about. Now the stomping out of the house thing? I wish I would DREAM about pulling that one. Some can get away with it...others (like me) would rather run through a certain place with gasoline underwear on than do that and face the wrath of their mother (and probably by that point, father.) And students insult thing is just idiotic. What school did HE go to? Pa-lease. I've been called worse things by other classmates that didn't like me and vise versa.


Boy-Girl Relationships: Most of the girls go through “crushes” faster than you can turn the page. Boys are referred to as “hotties.” One friend-turned-enemy is described as having that “heavy-lidded, flush-cheeked look that screamed ‘boy crazy.’” One of the girls is physically threatened by a male bully.Now my eye is twitching. This went from kidding, to quite frankly, just plain stupid. As far as I know, all the girls have their designated crush and it's only ONE guy. (not counting Irma as she's trying to avoid Martin.) Not to mention: most girls, oh I don't know...go through one of those things called crushes. Heck, most girls have more BOYFRIENDS than a person can bat an eyelash at. One week it's this boy, another's it that. Some girls make guys a 'hobby', "Oh he's hot!" or "OMG, I so totally want to date him!" Heck, most girls will try and socially destory a girl to get the guy of her dreams--at the time.


Body Image: The girls’ bodies are “enhanced” when they transform from immature, gawky, sometimes bespectacled adolescents into curvy, winged superpowers replete with skintight, skimpy costumes. More than once, transforming powers are misused to attract the latest crush or look good at a social function.Well...if it helps: Bloom's skirt is kinda skimpy form Winx. All the Sailor Moon girls wear Sailor uniforms and their skirts are rather short and that leotard is rather tight. So at least the WITCH girls are not alone. (Hello dude, short skirts and above the naval shirts are IN these days...) And Irma did that once. . .and ONLY once. She used her powers for something other than what it was designated for. Oh well--as I said before: WHO WOULDN'T at LEAST once? And if the concert thing is the 'social function', that couldn't be helped, seeing as Will was being ATTACKED during it by Cedric. Geez...


Social Strata: Classmates are quickly sorted into neat categories. Infielders are the popular kids, outfielders are the rebels and misfits, and the “dreaded snufilupigi” are the invisible ones who inhabit the lowest rung of the social ladder.Okay, this guy obviously didn't go to high school. At least their only seems to be three: my high school add quite a few: popular, wannabes, the goths, the rebels, the nerds, the bullies, the jocks/cheerleaders...


Telepathy: The preferred mode of communication for sharing secrets, planting suggestions in unsuspecting teachers’ minds, and receiving divine interventions.He says it like it's a bad thing...
And if I remember correctly, this was the very thing that saved Will and the others and made Taranee realize that what Will was saying is the truth. So it might have been a GOOD thing...


Teleporting: By Volume 6, the girls no longer bother with wings, instead traveling at hyperspeed by sheer will. ::Buzzer Sounds:: Oh I'm SO sorry, but if you actually bothered to read the books for more than five minutes, you would know that our precious HAY LIN is the only memeber that is suppose to be able to fly. Not to mention they were "traveling at hyperspeed" through PORTALS by book three, NOT six. But thanks for playing. ::cheers::


This campy comic-cum-chapter book series combines elements of Harry Potter, Matrix and Lord of the Rings, sans clever storytelling. Without the Disney dynamo behind it, the W.I.T.C.H. “franchise” might easily go unnoticed....I never noticed Harry Potter in Witch. And I'm not sure WHERE the Matrix came from...

I would just say, I take this so called 'review' as 'a grain of salt' and would like to further add Dora the Explorer could have written a better and a wee bit more accurate review than this...person.:yawn:

Well that was fun. :zim:

Gokou Ruri
04-13-2005, 02:07 AM
Maybe they thought Hay Lin's detective sunglasses were Matrixish? :p

Martin
04-13-2005, 06:32 AM
And if the concert thing is the 'social function', that couldn't be helped, seeing as Will was being ATTACKED during it by Cedric. Geez...
And even then the audience thought Will and Cedric were a special effect. Oh man, the girls have given a real great lightshow that way!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v492/MartinJoustra/w856.jpg

Dudley
04-14-2005, 10:00 AM
Sigh.. Once again people are complaining about things they don't know diddly-squat about.

lilshowtout91
04-15-2005, 07:30 PM
Yeah, I hate it when adults who have nothing better to do just come in and talk in a different language that sounds all professional and stuff. They think they know what they are doing but the problem is that they're not thinking very hard if they come up with an article saying stupid things that aren't true. Can I have an amen! Really, why do they have to waste their time. It is kind of funny though when you get to read the articles by stupid adults if you get to read the kind of humerous remarks that ShadowBrat gave us. Thanks, I needed a laugh!:D

Terrence Briggs
04-16-2005, 09:56 PM
http://www.pluggedinonline.com/articles/a0001859.cfm

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