2002 - Saturday AM Will Never Be The Same Again

[Anthonynotes]

From Yahoo!:
Fox, NBC seeking to lease its Sat. morning blocks:
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20011129/re/leisure_kidstv_dc_1.html

ABC pays mega-bucks for rights to "Harry Potter" movie airings:
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20011129/en/television-harrypotter_1.html

Enjoy...

-B.
Hasn't watched Fox Kids regularly since "The X-Men" and "The Tick" went off it...

[electricsheep]

it's sad that Saturday morning cartoon blocks will never be like they used to be. we all remember the good ol' days and well things have just gone downhill over the past 5 or so years...

[Calhoun07]

I also heard that ABC is considering dropping their Saturday night line up all together because their ratings have been in the basement, even poorer than UPN and WB. Also, they may be cancelling Who Wants to Be a Millionare. Millionare was kinda cool at first, but it's no Jeopardy or Price is Right, game shows with a longevity in them.

[DR. BELCH]

I was a kid of thirteen watching The Peacock Network, when they would show blocks of cartoons hosted by prime-time TV families--mothers and fathers with pajama-clad kids with bowls of cereal and buttered toast and pancakes, sharing, talking, spending time together. The kids would explain shows like The Gummi Bears, The Smurfs ("Gargamel? Sounds like mouthwash," one TV mom mused concerning the villain's name), and the animated ALF to their patiently clueless parents, who were enjoying the programs as much (maybe more) than the children.
Whatever happened to that? When did it get away from the family dynamic and become cold, crass numbers, points, redubbed stock footage, pop groups, and a neverending commercial for the latest mass-produced plastic fad hoosajube?
Man, I miss the old days....

[Captain Caps]

So, this is Saturday Morning in America 2001. Sell to the highest bidder, lease out space, give up properties...is this Saturday Morning or Real Estate? Oh, for the days of "Animaniacs" and "Pinky and The Brain"...or going back to the early 90s, "Saved By The Bell"...or back to my youth, with "Muppet Babies" and so many others. Well, time waits for no man. All we have are our memories.

Sincerely,

John "Captain Caps" Kilduff

[Sharklady]

> When did it get away from the family dynamic and
become cold, crass numbers, points, redubbed stock footage, pop groups, and a neverending commercial for the latest mass-produced plastic fad hoosajube? <

Actually, Saturday mornings have been chock-full of commercials for "the latest mass-produced plastic fad" since the 60s *at least* (and very probably longer, but I can't speak from experience about that.)

[Elven Moon]

That's really kinda sad :( How I miss it when I was a kid, with Muppet Babies, Fraggle Rock, Saved by the Bell, and all those other great shows. So, what are kids going to wake up to now? Infomercials? Talk shows? Not only them, but I sometimes catch those shows myself. What's going to happen to Megabots, Digimon, Mon Colle Knights, and all the other kids shows FOX airs?

[James Harvey]

Fox's show will likely jump to ABC Family, where some of their past shows currently reside. I wonder what will happen to all the foreign versions of FOX KIDS as well...

[Anthonynotes]

>>>I was a kid of thirteen watching The Peacock Network, when they would show blocks of cartoons hosted by prime-time TV families--mothers and fathers with pajama-clad kids with bowls of cereal and buttered toast and pancakes, sharing, talking, spending time together. The kids would explain shows like The Gummi Bears, The Smurfs ("Gargamel? Sounds like mouthwash," one TV mom mused concerning the villain's name), and the animated ALF to their patiently clueless parents, who were enjoying the programs as much (maybe more) than the children.
Whatever happened to that? When did it get away from the family dynamic and become cold, crass numbers, points, redubbed stock footage, pop groups, and a neverending commercial for the latest mass-produced plastic fad hoosajube?
Man, I miss the old days....
<<<

What Sharklady said....the very existence of Saturday morning entertainment for children (and, well, commercial television in general) is to sell stuff to kids (and apparently much moreso here than in other countries, where children's TV advertising is either banned outright or more heavily regulated)...see: shows based off kids' toys (nobody mentioned "He-Man", a big hit in the 80's), recycled formulaic cartoons (various "Scooby Doo" ripoffs in the 70's, etc.), fad items/pop groups (the 60's had "The Beatles" as a cartoon, the 70's gave us the (ultra-wretched) "Brady Kids" and (IIRC) an "Osmonds" cartoon, along with an animated version of the Partridge Family and Jackson Five, the 80's gave us "the Smurfs"/various "baby" cartoons, and children's entertainment in the 50's was also fad-connected---see: "Davy Crockett", and the associated coonskin caps. And of course, all that's probably holdovers from the way radio treated children ["Little Orphan Annie", "The Lone Ranger", and other radio shows with commercial tie-ins]). Also recall reading of deregulation of advertising in children's TV in the early 80's leading to the modern advent of shows based on toys (apparently such shows were banned since the late 60's after complaints over a few shows based off of cereal characters/Hot Wheels toys)...

As for the infamous recycled stock footage promos, probably could blame Kids' WB or Fox Kids for those---children's TV promos before the early-to-mid 90's mostly seemed to use actual episode clips respliced in some fashion or other from what I recall...then (probably with more sophisticated computer editing technology) Fox made a few such promos, though on an apparently limited scale; far as I can tell, Kids' WB really seemed to be the main promoter of this sort of thing (probably due to being cheaper to make than actual new animation, looking "cooler" to show stock footage of Plucky being hit by an anvil with Batman standing there over an actual TTA episode clip of him being struck by same, and with the technological feasability of CGI...).

As for when I was a kid, I guess there were plenty of classic cartoons I liked, but also ones that looking back, made me wonder why I ever watched them ("Saturday Supercade" comes to mind... anyone recall *that* little waste of celluloid? A show that aired on CBS in the early 80's that was based on popular video games of the day [mainly classic Atari games: segments included "Donkey Kong", Donkey Kong Jr.", "Kangaroo", "Frogger", "Q-Bert", and "Space Ace"....).

-B.
-B.

[Defiant1DS9]

Digimon, Medabot and Mon Colle may move to UPN, because some UPN stations were bought by Fox.

[LightAngel]

I remember when I was little, and got up at the earliest time possible to catch all the new Saturday morning cartoons. Eventually there came a point in my cartoon watching experience, when I began to notice how corrupt the stations were becoming. For example, on CBS, they aired a two hour news broadcast right smack dab in the middle of their cartoon line up. What was the point in that? It's a shame not much is changing.

[RockItShipper]

In Japan, Digimon's getting a 6th theatrical release and 4th series/season (tentatively called "Digimon Scanners") in spring '02. So the raw material for another US season and movie is there...

[Jowy Blight]

Good God! Just how popular is Digimon in Japan anyway?

[RockItShipper]

Well, not as hot as Pokemon... Pokemon's 5th full-length and mini-feature combo is hitting screen in Japan next summer. Digimon's first, second and fourth features are about half an hour. The other two are full-length features. And a running time for the 6th is still unknown... I'm guessing it's one of the short ones... (should be getting the video 08/02?) Which means if Scanners gets a summer movie, it'll be 90 minutes...

[DR. BELCH]

Sharklady:
Actually, Saturday mornings have been chock-full of commercials for "the latest mass-produced plastic fad" since the 60s *at least*....
Yes, perhaps...but when did I start to notice that fact? I think the day I figured out what commercialism was is when I officially became "old".
(Or maybe it was the day every telemarketer knew my name and I started recieving ten million credit card applications in the mail, whichever came first). :rolleyes:

[Anthonynotes]

This week's box office listings:
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20011202/en/box_office_634.html


And as for the pointless tidbits aspect: Captain Caps' favorite target Sean "Puff Daddy"/"P Diddy"/whatever-the-heck-he's-called-this-week" Combs starred this weekend in some MTV special for World AIDS Day....at least he's doing *something* more useful than "sampling" old music...

-B.

[The Dork Knight]

Frankly I don't give a crap about all those Fox shows except one.....


THE RIPPING FRIENDS

What is going to happen to this great show? I honestly hope it does'nt end up on Nick and get butchered.......

[The Dork Knight]

Originally posted by Brainatra
This week's box office listings:
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20011202/en/box_office_634.html


And as for the pointless tidbits aspect: Captain Caps' favorite target Sean "Puff Daddy"/"P Diddy"/whatever-the-heck-he's-called-this-week" Combs starred this weekend in some MTV special for World AIDS Day....at least he's doing *something* more useful than "sampling" old music...

-B.


You should have seen South Park last week, they did a parody of rich familys coming to SP, one is P Diddy's family.
"These are Puff Daddy's kids. (Can't remember their exact names....) ....and "P Poopy Pee Pee Mini Snack Size Diddy..."

I too was grown up on the "old school" Saturday morning TV shows.... I remember watch "Muppet Babies", "SBTB", and "Super Mario Brothers"..... I remember I loved the SMB chocolate cookies.... Those were the best. I miss the early 90's.

[Vin]

Looks, like Calhoun's right; ABC may be dropping their kid schedule in favor of "GMA." UPN, on the other hand, wants to become more involved in the kid market and plans to launch a Sat. AM block. To read the full story, click here (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=14064).

[The Mad Hatter]

Hm, interesting. Then again, do we want things to stay like they are? Ripping Friends is the only Saturday morning show I can watch, nowadays...

[Jowy Blight]

Ripping Friends is the only Saturday morning show I can watch, nowadays...

Which is rather sad if you think about it. Only ONE show that's watchable nowaday's on saturday. I remember when I was younger, every network had at least 3 good shows. Argh, what happened?

[Vin]

Originally posted by The Mad Hatter
Hm, interesting. Then again, do we want things to stay like they are? Ripping Friends is the only Saturday morning show I can watch, nowadays...

I'm all for change for the better. The sad thing about "Ripping Friends" is it may not have a home for a US season 2.

[Jimmy Kustes]

Does anyone remember these Saturdays?:

CBS:
Garfield and Friends
Seamonkeys
Beakman's World
Mother Goose and Grimm
Pee Wee's Playhouse

Fox:
The Tick
Eek the Cat
BTAS
Spider-man
X-men
Life with Louie
Bobby's World

Kids' WB:
Animanics
Pinky and the Brain
Freakezoid
Earthworm Jim

[Vin]

Now that NBC sold their block to Discovery Communications, FOX sold their block to 4Kids. UPN is considering getting into the biz. This leaves ABC pondering if they should add a Saturday edition of "GMA."

[Defiant1DS9]

I can name 2 things that is killing Fox Kids.

1. The damned Mighty Morphin' Power rangers, and Fox's constant rehash of the 1st season. For chrissakes, let the thing die in peace! Its like the old horse, it gets sick, if it was like power rangers. It would suffer for no apparent reason. Come on Fox, if you are reading this. LET THE THING DIE!!

2. Constant attempt to start a new pokemon craze. Come on 2 shows about the same thing is enough. Come on do something original.

[Cush]

Hello, 1st post here. In my opinion, it was "Saved By The Bell" that killed Saturday Morning toons. Once that show aired, the other networks tried to copy it

[Vin]

Originally posted by Cush
Hello, 1st post here. In my opinion, it was "Saved By The Bell" that killed Saturday Morning toons. Once that show aired, the other networks tried to copy it

Welcome Cush to our family! I recommend you read the rules before posting, if you haven't already! Enjoy!

[ZorBrak]

okay well, I have been quiet on this issue, but no more, the great and wise Zorbrak makes his voice heard: I think EVERYTHING is going downhill with one exception-
MOVIES, don't ask why but after years of hit or miss mostly miss, we are getting nothing but hits, almost all movies this year, even the low hyped ones have been great, with a few sleeper hits already in the bag, 2002 is the revival of good movies, with "Collateral Damage", "Resdient Evil", "MIB2"," Scorpion King", "Star Wars Episode 2" (don't count it out just yet), Spiderman, Austin Powers 3, a new Bond 007 which sounds extremly promising considering it has been in development for an extensive amount of time and commemrates the 40th anniversary, as well as others which have slipped my mind and looking into 2003, TMNT4, Terminator 3, Matrix Reloaded X-Men 2, I don't forsee a break in good movies for a long while, finally hollywood is back on track (I know this has little relation, if any at all, but has anyone notice how when republican presidents are in office movies are generally better? weird trend...)

SATURDAY MORNING TV- on the otherhand, forget that hill, saturday morning cartoons have practially fallen of a cliff, with THREE commerical interuptions plagued with the most annoying commercials ever known to man, and they are played OVER AND OVER "try AOL today, What are you waiting for?!" - you to shut up, stupid announcer :D , almost all the shows absolutly suck, and either involve cheesey plotlines unenjoyable by intelligent adults, and it seems this recent "3D" trend is stirring up trouble as we get more stupid shows like action man and cubix.

VIDEO GAMES- Dear Lord, my hobby has been destroyed, it all began with the killing of the Dreamcast and video games has evolved since then into a contest to see which games have the better graphics because we all know "XBox graphics are PHAT as hell dude" while they contain little in the ways of gameplay, otherthan rehashed trash that I have played 50 times, Sony and MS care nothing for customers, their 1st party support is sub par at best and their customer appreciation is zilch, while Nintendo's 1st party and customer respect is on a much more respectable level they decided to enter this gun fight with a half empty clip, putting them in extreme finacial danger, this empty clip I refer to is he long drought of games GC owners are ALREADY suffering as Nintendo is the king of delays...I see gaming becoming more about eye candy and a pass time for pot heads with nothing better to do than it was as an enjoyful hobby that involves skills, tactical and startegic thinking, and physcal and mental reflexes until recnetly, the last good game I have played was Super Smash Brothers Melee, this come out December 3rd, and I have since taken an indefinate hiatus from gaming until they pick up the pace and if they don't then the world has lost another great thing to commericalism...and the majority of my foolish genaration who buys into M$, the geneartion I speak of, MY genration, whom are all complete morons and do nothing but watch MTV and smoke dope, scare me because their level of stupidity has the potential to corrupt many things, as it has already begun...

DVDs and HOME ENTERTAINMENT- Oh heres the big one, fist the lack of interest in fan input, the gradually declining rate of awesome features, as studios think of new ways to get an extra dollar out of your pocket. Fox's recent decline in quality deeply saddens me, after moving on from games (for the most part) to DVDs, I thought I had found a hobby that I coud enjoy, then I found out about region encoding and learned how we region 1 fans get spit on by comapnies, and now hear about Fox's decision to start releasing most movies in fullscreen in making widescreens cost more in special edition formats, oh goody...

COMICS- these are still in a hit or miss situation but for the most poart they have sucked for a good long while, I hear the "Ultimate Spiderman and Ultimate X-Men" relaunches of the series are excellent and I plan to read them soon but ever since the whole onslought and ben reily mess, things lways have to go crazy, and I don't like this Earth 2 thing I hear about either, now I don't activly read comics, but I try to keep up with the plots, and from what I understand Earth 2 was to releanuch all the series...by killing of the old universe, that is stupid, why not just relaunch w/o making some elaborate story, it is not needed, and I think if comic producers could realize that complex plots such as this are not usually a good thing we would be much better off, and the comics would be more like the animated style with contunity, but less complex continuity, although I'd like the mature tones of comics to remain intact.

MUSIC- Ewwwwwww just eww, everybody listening to bubble gum pop and feminine "male" pop singers, everyone copying everyone elses sound, no one can do something original, all the artist are scumbags, thank God, there are still some decent bands out there who know their own style and don't betrayand sell out...bvut Music is aslo going down a really steep hill...thanks alot MTV and thanks even more to my generation once again. ugggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhh!!!!

[The Dork Knight]

Originally posted by ZorBrak
MUSIC- Ewwwwwww just eww, everybody listening to bubble gum pop and feminine "male" pop singers, everyone copying everyone elses sound, no one can do something original, all the artist are scumbags, thank God, there are still some decent bands out there who know their own style and don't betrayand sell out...bvut Music is aslo going down a really steep hill...thanks alot MTV and thanks even more to my generation once again. ugggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhh!!!!

Not in my school. If you don't listen to Jay-Z, then you are "gay". Why don't they listen to REAL music. Music that does't use the f-word 50 (explitive deleted) times! I love saying stuff to the kids like "Jay-Z sucks", "DMX sucks", "Ja Rule sucks". Real music is stuff like Billy Joel.

- Foley Is Good

[Vin]

Originally posted by Foley Is Good


Not in my school. If you don't listen to Jay-Z, then you are "gay". Why don't they listen to REAL music. Music that does't use the f-word 50 (explitive deleted) times! I love saying stuff to the kids like "Jay-Z sucks", "DMX sucks", "Ja Rule sucks". Real music is stuff like Billy Joel.

- Foley Is Good

Yeah, I know what you're talking about. So and so is gay, blah blah blah is whack. Personally, I don't follow who's hip, etc. I just listen to what I like.

[Defiant1DS9]

To comment on your speech, i think you are making some good points. Entertainment is going down hill.

Movies: Yes there are good movies, im looking foward to Spider-man, Star Wars: episode 2, Minority Report and lets not forget Star Trek 10: Nemesis. Hollywood is pulling out of it's dirt and coming up with great movies.

TV: Your right, TV has gone down the crapper and it aint because i dont have cable. I remember a time where i didnt have cable(When i was 10) and still we had good shows. The only things i enjoy on TV now is Enterprise, Simpons, WWF and Star Trek: The Next Generation. The rest is drek, Starting with Daytime TV, Talk shows, Court shows are all alike. Talk shows with the "My brother marries my cousin-in-law who is already having an affair with my 60 year old mother in law who has a 16 year old boyfriend." the court shows with the "He crashed my car and made a tiny dent and he owes me 40$$." prime time is somewhat good, if we could forget "Reality" TV. I have all but given up on cartoons on broadcast TV, althrough SatAM TV is somewhat better, and can use more improvement like cutting back on the pokemon type shows and coming up with something more original, and someone KILLING THAT DAMN POWER RANGERS TV SHOW. THE THING IS DEAD FOR CHRISSAKES, YOU CAN'T REVIVE THE CRAZE. KILL THE DAMN THING, and you might get better. I have all but given up on cartoon on broadcast tv. I turned to cable.

Music: Your right, todays music sucks, Too many britney spears wanna bes and N-sync type bands. Rap music sucks, it sounds broken, underdone and plain ignorant. I can remember when rap music sounded original each time a new song came out, it was the early 90's. I am 22 by the way. MTV has become Miniscule Teenage Vision. BET oh man don't get me started on the racist black channel. Before you get up in arms, lets just say i am black and don't watch the drek. BET is nothing more than black music videos, informercials, and stereotypical black movies protraying us as nothing but criminals. The type of music i like is Classic and Contemporary R&B some going back 30 years. Jazz is cool. I like classical rock and insturmentals.

Thats all i could think of.

[Joe Wagner]

Originally posted by Defiant1DS9
I can name 2 things that is killing Fox Kids.

1. The damned Mighty Morphin' Power rangers, and Fox's constant rehash of the 1st season. For chrissakes, let the thing die in peace! Its like the old horse, it gets sick, if it was like power rangers. It would suffer for no apparent reason. Come on Fox, if you are reading this. LET THE THING DIE!!

2. Constant attempt to start a new pokemon craze. Come on 2 shows about the same thing is enough. Come on do something original.

Yea, Power Rangers and Digimon - I can't stand either of these shows, esp. when Fox canned shows that I loved (as did others) in place of keeping this stuff. I mean Spidey Unlimited was gone before it was ever given a chance (three episodes aired originally or something like that?), even though it was still a top ranking cartoon for its time slot. Xyber 9 was shaping up to look great and was therefore canned. The Magician looked like Fox's next Batman - but surprisingly wasn't marketed with 28 million figures, probably because Saban was to busy creating more Power Rangers toys. The extremely underrated Silver Surfer was gone before its time - even the so-so Avengers cartoon had a second season ordered (if i remember reports at the time) and was going to be a lot better - but, surprise, it was cancelled. Godzilla was good and now gone. King Kong looked like a cheaper Godzilla replacement and Roswell Conspiracies was actually decent.

"Ohh.....we can put a full hour of Digimon here, followed by Power Rangers. And look by throwing more out the window we could put some more extremely lame anime on our block. What's that, a show got ratings?! We've got more important things than to back a show people seem to watch, can it and bring me some donuts. No, not the cheap ones you idiot! Spend, spend, spend - spend more for less quality and a marketable toy line that no one wants!," Fox Network executives concerning the Digimon craze.

With all the shows they've cancelled (and I haven't even mentioned the Tick) can anyone see why i hate Fox so much...

-Joe!

Wishes UPN would pick up Xyber 9, Silver Surfer and Spidey Unlimited with new episodes for their cartoon line-up.

[Joe Wagner]

Originally posted by Duncanzits
Does anyone remember these Saturdays?:

CBS:
Garfield and Friends
Seamonkeys
Beakman's World
Mother Goose and Grimm
Pee Wee's Playhouse

Fox:
The Tick
Eek the Cat
BTAS
Spider-man
X-men
Life with Louie
Bobby's World

Kids' WB:
Animanics
Pinky and the Brain
Freakezoid
Earthworm Jim

Ohhh.....I remember these Saturdays because I used to have to pick between X-Men, Superman and the Goliath Chronicles (which I actually liked for the most part) at the same time. Geez....now I have a hard time finding anything on Saturday mornings at all - I usually just set the tube to WB and chill with them - at least they've got X-Men:Evolution, Static Shock, Jackie Chan and Zeta (hopefully back soon). I can't wait til March when ABC family starts the Marvel Dual Hour Block with Spidey, X-Men, Fantastic Four (extremely underrated, but as good as X-Men) and Iron Man. Should be great to have more than one thing to pick from. :bosko:

-Joe!

[Anthonynotes]

MOVIES: Well, "Almost Famous" and "High Fidelity" wer excellent films, and they came out during Clinton's latter days...but anyway, I think it depends on what one's looking for in films. I think the big "blockbuster" type of films being referred to here have gotten pretty stale (seems like this summer and last summer's films are all sequels...and I don't find the idea of looking forward to Yet Another "Terminator" or TMNT film as something to get excited about...), especially when one factors in the trend of making movies based on TV shows (strip-mining Baby Boomer or Gen-X-er nostalgia). However, I think independent film making (or non-blockbuster) film making has gotten a lot stronger over the past few years (not sure how big a time-frame we're using here, so I guess I'll say over the past 10 years, given the presumptions of the Sat. morning lineup listed earlier as "remember when...?"): see "Clerks", for instance.

TV: While TV's always been pretty mediocre overall, some areas it seems to have declined somewhat. Witness: the zillion courtroom shows/talk shows on daytime TV, or the "reality" show craze. Though some innovations/changes have come about in the past 10 years, other areas seem to have changed for the worse (see: WB animation today vs. 1992/93, when TTA and A! were around), while other things haven't changed much at all (not much change in diverse groups of people being shown [outside of "Star Trek", can't think of any primetime shows with any Asian cast members, no Latino TV characters readily come to mind ["Teamo Supremo" dreck aside]], though "Will and Grace" would've probably have been unthinkable as a TV series back in 1992)....

MUSIC: Today's music: for the most part, ick.

HOME VIDEO: Well, the mere *existence* of DVD's are a great advance over VHS-only world of 1992... I'm grateful for being able to have a nicer-looking copy of a film than I would have on tape, and being able to skip around it as much as I want, making up for any lack of features that might be on some DVD's (I think the manufacturers have figured out that they can milk more money by holding back some features for a "Special Edition" DVD release later on---see: "Almost Famous").

VIDEO GAMES: Much better graphics now vs. back in '92, but a lot of games nowadays seem to mostly be unfathomable playing-wise by me (though admittedly, don't play many video games)...

SUPERHERO COMICS: Outside of more slick/computer-graphics-using artwork, not much seems to have changed since '92 (a loosening of the "grim and gritty" tone grip aside)---still too many stupid inane crossovers, gazillion books for one character (how many X-books are there? Anyone?), the things have gotten *more* expensive, Batman's now being completely written (in the regular comics, not the "animated" ones) as some sort of emotionless uber-prepared robot with some stupid "urban legend" nonsense thrown in, and there's probably even fewer readers now than back in 1992 ("Death of Superman" notwithstanding), along with it being even more difficult to find comics outside of a comic shop now vs. back then.

As for "Earth-2", that was DC's continuity innovation; Marvel's new line of "new" continuity books are called "Ultimate" titles ("Ultimate Spider-Man", "Ultimate X-Men", etc.). At DC, Earth-1 and Earth-2 were used to explain the various changes between their Golden Age comics (ranging from 1938 to about 1951) and the Silver Age ones (ranging from 1955 until, continuity-wise, 1985). Earth-2 was stated to be where the "Golden Age" comics took place, while the modern comics took place on Earth-1 (considered the "real" versions of Superman, Bats, etc.). Of course, the Golden Age/Silver Age dividing line wasn't precise for some characters (Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Green Arrow, and Aquaman continued to be published without break in the 1950's vs. the Golden Age Flash, Hawkman, Green Lantern, and the JSA having been retired by then), but for general purposes it seemed accurate enough. Of course, "Crisis On Infinite Earths" did away with all this, and established the current "one-Earth-only" universe in the mid-80's (with subsequent revamps to their characters, like Byrne's Superman....).

-B.

[Defiant1DS9]

Is that true, i remember in 1995 they had a sunday morning line-up with Tecknoman and Jumanji. What will be on it. I probably think Nicktoons since UPN, CBS, and Nick are owned by Viacom.