For the JL Batman Episode...

[James Harvey]

...I think Ra's Al Ghul would be the perfect villian for the episode. We need to see that this guy can cause some global desctruction and what better way would it be than for Ra's to take on Batman and The JL. I think the episode should feature, aside from Batman, Martian Manhunter, Green Lantern, and maybe Hawkgirl.

[Joker85]

I agree. Ra's would be perfect in JL!! And also, I think Batman and Martian Manhunter should be in every episode! :p

[Buddy Lee]

Ra's would be good. I just want Batman in the show more often. In the opening credits, after the terrible CGI of them walking. Batman is given top billing. We need more of Batman in the show.

[superfriend]

Although I enjoyed In Blackest Night, I was seriously disappointed that 2 of the members were missing. I do wish all 7 were used in some capacity in every story/episode.

[The Guard]

By top billing do you mean he's the first intro sequence with the batarang thing?

I think it's just because they run them in alphabetical order according to the character's true names...

Bruce

Diana

John

J'onn

Kal-El

Wally

And umm...then Hawkgirl because she's cool...

[metaphysician]

Originally posted by Dick Grayson
...I think Ra's Al Ghul would be the perfect villian for the episode. We need to see that this guy can cause some global desctruction and what better way would it be than for Ra's to take on Batman and The JL. I think the episode should feature, aside from Batman, Martian Manhunter, Green Lantern, and maybe Hawkgirl.

Better yet, it should include them all, and be based on Tower of Babel.

[Knight]

Originally posted by metaphysician


Better yet, it should include them all, and be based on Tower of Babel.

I know im probably in the minority on this but I really didnt like Tower Of Babel for one reason...It makes Batman look very incompetent. Batman gathers all this secret information on his teamates and Ra's gets his hands on them and uses them against the team. Come on! Thats a huge unBatmanlike mistake. I think this storyline even won him Villain of the year in Wizard magazine

[metaphysician]

Originally posted by Knight


I know im probably in the minority on this but I really didnt like Tower Of Babel for one reason...It makes Batman look very incompetent. Batman gathers all this secret information on his teamates and Ra's gets his hands on them and uses them against the team. Come on! Thats a huge unBatmanlike mistake. I think this storyline even won him Villain of the year in Wizard magazine

Perhaps. However, the information doesn't just fall into the hands of some villain. It is specifically sought by Batman most powerful enemy, the one who is essentially his equal, Ra's al Ghul. Having information stolen by Ra's is like having your computer hacked by Oracle: no indicator of poor performance.

I'd alter it, though, so it is Batman, specifically, who manages to save the rest of the League. Also, if possible it should be hinted beforehand that Batman is keeping info, like during any episode involving Amazo.

[kid_flash]

Ra's as the villain on a JL show....Tower of Bable anyone?

And man, you must read this story. The sequence with Bruce going to visit his parents' grave site is worth the price of the TPB alone. Everything else is just an awesome extra.

Also, there was a story in the JLA Secret Files and Origins #3 that specifically goes over how Ra's got the plans. I think it makes sense (remember: NO SECURITY IS ABSOLUTE), and it's a heckuva read, also showing how Batman developed the techniques to take down the League.

[Trent Lane]

I think it would be really cool to have Ra's go up against the League, in particular Batman (of course), Martian Manhunter, and Wonder Woman. Or, if not that, open a Batman spotlight show with him taking down a member of his Rogue's gallery in Gotham City. That'd be so cool...

[The Guard]

Can you imagine Rha's...


"How often have you dreamed of hearind your father's voice? Of feeling your mother's touch?"

And then Conroy delivering...

"Of being worthy of their MEMORY!"

[Naraht]

Tower of Babel was shway...one of the few JLA books I really enjoyed. As to seeing more Batman in JL...the fact of the matter is..he's not a team player (Nightwing, Batgirl, Robin, Oracle, Huntress, etc... excluded)

I think they're trying to maintain some continuity with "The Call" and it was mentioned that Batman wasn't much of a team player.

I think Bruce's problem with the JL, is that no one obeys him the way his crew does. Batman is a control freak..and the idea that ppl don't obey and/or fear him..makes him uncomfortable.

[Nass]

I would think the whole team would be in a Batman episode since he's the last ditch effort sorta. Also, is the whole team in Enemy Below? Anyone know?

[metaphysician]

Originally posted by naraht
Tower of Babel was shway...one of the few JLA books I really enjoyed. As to seeing more Batman in JL...the fact of the matter is..he's not a team player (Nightwing, Batgirl, Robin, Oracle, Huntress, etc... excluded)

I think they're trying to maintain some continuity with "The Call" and it was mentioned that Batman wasn't much of a team player.

I think Bruce's problem with the JL, is that no one obeys him the way his crew does. Batman is a control freak..and the idea that ppl don't obey and/or fear him..makes him uncomfortable.

Of course, that is why he would develop countermeasures against the other JLers, which are stolen by Ra's.

Also, it would be cool to see Batman tearing through Ra's henchmen like ten-pins. "In the state he's in, you stand no chance." :)

[Karkull]

The Tower of Babel would be a great three parter, but it's an episode that would have to come later in the series. It would lose some resonance if it happened too soon.

[Karkull]

In the comics, Batman hates it when any Justice League members help out in Gotham City. What about an episode where someone's trying to help Batman catch one of his adversaries, but Batman keeps trying to get rid of him/her.

[Kal-el]

Originally posted by Karkull
In the comics, Batman hates it when any Justice League members help out in Gotham City. What about an episode where someone's trying to help Batman catch one of his adversaries, but Batman keeps trying to get rid of him/her.
I like that idea Karkull. It might show that the team, though having good intentions, are still in the dark about Batman, especially if it was Superman's idea to help.
To respond to an earlier post, I really didn't mind having members missing during IBN. It just seems to make logical sense to me. They all can't be available at any time. Heck, if the earthquake Superman was dealing with would have been bigger, he might not have made the party. Batman especially is not going to jump at every chance to do something with the other members. It's like any ensemble-type show...not every member can be seen or highlighted in every ep. I think having a portion of the team doing stuff helps give a deeper characterization for the ones that are there.
Though I am a huge batman fan, he is not my favorite JL member (I'm most likely in the minority there). Because of who and what he is, his assistance to the JL will be at a premium, IMO.

[DisneyBoy]

I like the idea of Ra's apearing on JL... but I don't want his appearance to be anything less than a DTV film! He's such a powerful amazing villain, I really don't want him to be crammed into a two-part story arc, with cliffhangers before commercial breaks and at the end of twenty minutes! I'd much rather it be a well-paced, better animated film. He and Catwoman deserved a B:TAS DTV and never got one. Let's make sure they get the star-status if they ever come around again!

I also want to point out that I think having two plots or storylines in enxt episode/arc would be a very effective way of involving a loner like Batman or Aquaman, who is hard to get to. You know, divide up the team and have them doing two things at once, rather than going around like a bunch of pre-schoolers with their wrists tied together. I think the Timm-team will incorporate this soon. Come on, they can't all take a shower togther, can they?

:) :rolleyes: :p ;) :cool: :D :)

[Knight of Blüdhaven]

The Tower of Babel would make for a great episode! Oh man, I am drooling just thinking about that!
And in response to Knights post... it didn't make Batman look incompetent, if anything it just proves that he is the most intellegent and competent of them all. After all, which other Justice League member could take everyone down if he had to? I don't think anyone other than batman could do that.

[Green Lantern]

Originally posted by theflash
The Tower of Babel would make for a great episode! Oh man, I am drooling just thinking about that!First though, we need to better flesh out the team's dynamics and individual characters, and their strengths and weaknesses. Much of what was done to the various Leaguers dictates that all viewers know a lot about the JLers. I'd say maybe somewhere in the 2nd season, this story could work.


And in response to Knights post... it didn't make Batman look incompetent, if anything it just proves that he is the most intellegent and competent of them all. After all, which other Justice League member could take everyone down if he had to? I don't think anyone other than batman could do that. I disagree and agree. I think that Batman is among the few that could formulate plans to take down so many so effectively, but Knight is correct. How could he be so careless as to leave it in an apparently accessible place that Ra's a Ghul could have gotten a hold of it? The plans should have been stored in a place like Bruce Wayne stored the Kryptonite in the Batman Beyond episode, The Call

Just my thoughts.

[Lady Iapetus]

I think it would be really cool to have Ra's go up against the League, in particular Batman (of course), Martian Manhunter, and Wonder Woman. Or, if not that, open a Batman spotlight show with him taking down a member of his Rogue's gallery in Gotham City. That'd be so cool...

For Rogue's Gallery, my personal pick would be the Mad Hatter. He's probably the only member of the Rogue's Gallery who could effectively turn the members of JL against Batman or each other, at least temporarily. Now that would make for an awesome episode: the master of mind control with his own superpowered henchmen at his disposal, chasing Batman and any JL members who escaped the Hatter's clutches...the possibilities are endless.

Don't know how they'd do the Hatter without Roddy, though...

[Karkull]

I think that they've effectively retired the character. No Roddy, no Hatter.

[Lady Iapetus]

The animators may have drawn him, the scriptwriters written the lines, but it was Roddy who made the Mad Hatter.

[Supermon]

The Ra's episode should definetely be massive enough to link it to Terry's mention of the "near apokolips of 09" in Batman Beyond.

[Lady Iapetus]

The Ra's episode should definetely be massive enough to link it to Terry's mention of the "near apokolips of 09" in Batman Beyond.

But do we know what year JL takes place?

[The Mad Hatter]

Alas, poor Hatter, the grim reaper has rendered you mute. I obviously dig the character, but seeing anyone else voice him would make me wince... Roddy was just too fun.

But yes, out of Bats' entire rogues gallery the one with the best chance of single-handedly being a threat to the entire JL would be Ras. Besides, speaking of good voices, Ras' David Warner is a good 'un, too.

I doubt this would be done for a while, since I'm sure the creators want plenty of time to strike out in new directions, but seeing Bats and another member or two of JL hitting the streets of Gotham would be a kick.

[Maxie Zeus]

I agree absolutely that Roddy made the Mad Hatter what he was. There is no way they could replace him while keeping the character the same.

But there is always the possibility that they could "reimagine" the Hatter, the way they may have reimagined Luthor. I could imagine John Hurt giving voice to a wrecked and ravaged Hatter, clinging to a tragic victimhood while chasing down Batman.

[Lady Iapetus]

But there is always the possibility that they could "reimagine" the Hatter, the way they may have reimagined Luthor. I could imagine John Hurt giving voice to a wrecked and ravaged Hatter, clinging to a tragic victimhood while chasing down Batman.

Hmmm... I kinda hope they don't. I don't think I could imagine anyone besides Roddy doing the Hatter.

[The Mad Hatter]

I'd be up for that... considering that Batman continually drives poor Hatter over the edge (in his mind, at least), I could easily see a darker Hatter, striking out with twisted versions of childhood fantasy. Dark re-imaginings of Wonderland have become quite popular (anyone play Alice for the PC? Damn, that was fascinating), so it could work quite well.

Then again, considering how the fans flipped out over a new voice for Superman, I shudder to think at the backlash over the replacement of an even MORE distinctive voice.

[BeastBoyWonder]

that would be VERY cool if one of Batman's enemies was able to neutralize or turn the JL against him...it would be great to see Batman and Nightwing to do some detective work and fix things up.



It would be great to see Nightwing in general.

[Buddy Lee]

it would be cool to see the Mad Hatter take control of Nightwing, Batgirl, and Robin and use them against the JL. I think it would make for some good drama.

Would Batman hold back in hand to hand combat against his former partner and protege, Nightwing??

[Joker Jr]

If Batman didn't hold out against Nightwing it would be one cool fight. BTW don't people under the Hatter's control have increased strength? :cool:

[BeastBoyWonder]

sorry, i meant that it would be cool if Batman and his crew had to take on/rescue JL.