View Full Version : Did anyone read Batman the lost years?
jimmymiro12
02-12-2005, 04:34 PM
I was wondering if anoyone read this series because I wanted to know if it is worth buying.
Please a little bit of spoilers
yeah, i have it, it's a nice addition, half of the TPB is told on TNBA episodes in flash backs but the other half is not so it makes it worth it, it adds a lot and shows more of what happens on the three years.
Comic Book Boy
02-13-2005, 10:43 PM
I was wondering if anoyone read this series because I wanted to know if it is worth buying.
Please a little bit of spoilers
If you like the animated comics...GET IT!
Beyond Batman
02-14-2005, 01:23 AM
I enjoyed "The Lost Years." If Batman Animated Comics were a DVD, The Lost Years are like the deleted scenes. It's worth the read.
Harley_Quinn
02-14-2005, 02:28 PM
Sounds cool I may have to check it out
Silly McGooses
02-14-2005, 03:31 PM
YES! This is absolutely my favorite miniseries EVER!
Love4ever
02-14-2005, 06:38 PM
Just as everyone else is saying, if you love this series, you should SOOOO GET IT!! I agree with Beyond Batman, the mini series has sences and dialoge that the animation studios never added in these paticular epiosdes "Sins of the Father" and "Old Wounds". And theres stories such as Dick Grayson's trips to Mexico and in the Himilaian mountans in Nepal, that the WB animation studio never made episodes off. I recamand you buy it and read it and it's a great read:)!!!!
TimTwoFace
02-14-2005, 06:58 PM
I understand why the series exists and all, but really, I don't really get what all the hoopla is all about - it wasn't THAT good. The slow shift between art styles (BTAS to TNBA) between issues #1 and #5 are interesting, though.
It's worth having but it's hardly spectacular.
-Tim
Revelator
02-14-2005, 10:10 PM
Only buy it if it's on sale or a good used copy is available for purchase. The series was scripted by the late Hillary Bader, and while she wrote several very enjoyable episodes, here she adds little more than the same blandness found in her less successful TNBA/BB entries. If you've seen Sins of the Father and Old Wounds this collection isn't a must. Additionally, while Ty Templeton's covers are terrific as usual, the interior art is by a different artist and is greatly inferior.
TimTwoFace
02-14-2005, 10:13 PM
Only buy it if it's on sale or a good used copy is available for purchase. The series was scripted by the late Hillary Bader...
...Hilary J. Bader has passed on? I was unaware of this. :sad:
-Tim
My fav. art box is when you see Nightwing with his old uniform. blue and yellow.
Revelator
02-14-2005, 10:28 PM
...Hilary J. Bader has passed on? I was unaware of this. :sad: -Tim
She died of ovarian cancer on Nov.7 2002, at the age of 50.
adoptedBatpuppy
02-15-2005, 03:27 PM
I have the book. It's quite enjoyable, but I have not read it in awhile. I remember I bought it for $5.00 at a comic book store which was going out of business. I think the original price for the book is $9.99
The comic book is about young Tim Drake finding out about Batman, and becoming second Robin. Meanwhile, we find out why Richard left Batman, and traveled the world to find a costume and become Nightwing. I'm sorry if this is not accurate, but it's been awhile since I have read this book! :p
Robin
02-15-2005, 04:40 PM
This board has talkbacks for every issue incase you guys didn't know:
Issue #1
http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=125833
Issue #2
http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=125834
Issue #3
http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=125835
Issue #4
http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=125836
Issue#5
http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=125837
It's a pretty good mini-series was some substandard/mediocre artwork.
TimTwoFace
02-15-2005, 05:03 PM
She died of ovarian cancer on Nov.7 2002, at the age of 50.
Oy...it's coming to me now, I'm ashamed that I had forgotten. :sad:
-Tim
DisneyBoy
02-15-2005, 08:00 PM
Don't worry bout it Tim. Our minds can only hold so much B:TAS-related information at a time...:p
....I was pretty excited to see a Batman Adventures mini-series after the dreadful end to The Batman and Robin Adventures series. The stories were great, and filled in plenty of the blanks, but Terry Beatty's artwork did not cut the mustard for me, at all. Especially after the bad taste Bo Hampton had left in my mouth after the last few issues of TB+RA. Probably the nicest issue to look at is the fourth, which introduces Tim Drake and covers a bit more of his home life than was touched on in "Sins of the Father". I really think the origin benefitted from the presence of his father, who was completely left out of the animated episode. There was a nice relationship there, if not a perfect one. And Beatty managed to get some poses of Batgirl and Batman pretty spot-on (my guess is he had storyboards to look at).
I didn't realize that Dick's first Nightwing outfit was based on his original look in the comics. Now that I think about it it isn't too similar at all.
I was pretty shocked to see Two-Face as a drug dealer here...quite the leap from his usual heists.
Here's a fun little tid-bit for those who don't know...in the letter-column of Batman: Gotham Adventures one informed reader let DC know that they'd messed up slightly in their references to the dialogue/culture/celebration covered in issue #3. Some quick research was done, and some dialogue was corrected for the collected edition.
And if not for this series, we might not have had the Catwoman "Lost Years" style tale in issue #4. Apparently, there we more stories of that nature planned for the series. Wonder what might have been covered in them?
jimmymiro12
02-15-2005, 08:09 PM
Robin- you have the wrong issue cover for issue 5.
How is issue 5? I picked up the rest of the series on Sunday. Does it focus on episodes from TNBA? or is it a new story.
DisneyBoy
02-16-2005, 11:33 AM
Issue number five is an entirely original story about how Dick came to adopt his new look and name of "Nightwing" while trailing Ra's Al Ghul back to Gotham City. Dick's "no one can be a boy wonder forever" return scene (featured at the end of "Sins of the Father") makes an appearance here near the end of the issue.
Robin
02-16-2005, 11:51 AM
The stories were great, and filled in plenty of the blanks, but Terry Beatty's artwork did not cut the mustard for me, at all. Especially after the bad taste Bo Hampton had left in my mouth after the last few issues of TB+RA. So no one is going to use the talkback links I gave?
And Disneyboy, Terry Beatty did not do the artwork for this mini-series. The artwork was done by Bo Hampton, but Terry Beatty did ink. I personallylike the inkwork that Beatty does, but I find that Hampton did a less than admirable job during his stay on the animated comics. The artwork did improve a shade towards the end of this mini-series when the book adopted the angular "TNBA" look, but the art of the early issues were almost as unbearable as DKA artwork.
adoptedBatpuppy
02-18-2005, 01:10 PM
I'm afraid! :sad: How old are those talk backs? I don't want to get in trouble for bringing up old threads, like I did last time, and almost got kicked out... :ack:
DisneyBoy
02-18-2005, 02:09 PM
My Bad. I'd remembered that Bo Hampton did the last few (deplorable) issues of The Batman+Robin Adventures, but forgotten he was also on board for the Lost Years. Although, on a seperate note, I've never really cared much for Terry Beatty's art either. Rick Burchett was always a better inker, I found, especially over Ty Templeton's work. As Rick's stuff was more angular, he brought a crispness to Ty's slightly more organic, curved lines. It worked nicely. But then again, it may have been Terry who gave someone like Joe Staton's work more of the Timm-edge. Who knows?
Yojimbo
02-18-2005, 07:56 PM
Yup, I read Lost Years before seeing "old wounds" and all the other adaptations, and I was disappointed. If Timm could go back, he should adapt all of the Lost Years into a DTV and dedicate it to Bader. I mean it is important to realize how different Batman and Nightwing are, so it would make sense if more of Grayson's travels should be seen than Batman's who I think only had two "zatanna" and "day of the samurai". It was great read. I still have to pick up that Harley and Ivy mini though.
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