The Official DC Animated Universe DVD Talkback, Part 7 [Archive]

Bird Boy

02-12-2005, 09:35 PM

It's time for part 7 of our DVD news threads folks! Please keep all DVD talk in here!

Justice League Unlimited - Saving The World DVD announced. (http://forums.toonzone.net/showpost.php?p=1517973&postcount=203)
The Batman - Volume #1 "Training For Power" Announced. (http://news.toonzone.net/article.php?ID=938)
Teen Titans - Volume #2 "Switched" Announced. (http://forums.toonzone.net/showpost.php?p=1609190&postcount=466)

Archive:
-The Official DC Animated Universe DVD Talkback, Part 6 (http://forums.toonzone.net/editpost.php?do=editpost&p=1409156)
-The Official DC Animated Universe DVD Talkback, Part 5 (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=110845)
-The Official DC Animated Universe DVD Talkback, Part 4 (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=106423)
-The Official DC Animated Universe DVD Talkback, Part 3 (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=99855)
-The Official DC Animated Universe DVD Talkback, Part 2 (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=86789)
-The Official DC Animated Universe DVD Talkback, Part 1 (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=65035)

Stu

02-13-2005, 07:50 AM

Let's start off this thread!

If I'm right, Superman Volume 2 should feature the following episodes;

Identity Crisis
Target
Mxyzpixilated
Action Figures
Double Dose
Solar Power
Brave New Metropolis
Monkey Fun
Ghost in the Machine
Father's Day
World's Finest (1)
World's Finest (2)
World's Finest (3)
The Hand of Fate
Bizarro's World
Prototype
The Late Mr. Kent

Should be a great set. Which episodes do you think will have commentary on them?

Crow

02-13-2005, 07:56 AM

Supremus

02-13-2005, 08:01 AM

Which episodes do you think will have commentary on them?It would probably have been difficult to keep Dini from doing commentary for Mxyzpixilated, so that's a contender. The Late Mr Kent might also be worth a few comments, but they could probably find something interesting to say for most of these episodes, so I hope this set has more than 2 commentaries.

Funkatron

02-13-2005, 08:01 AM

So, this Saving the World DVD. Worth getting or not? I haven't seen any JLU.In my Opinion, no. Random episodes and bad cover art make ionspark an unhappy boy

Simpler Simon

02-13-2005, 09:26 AM

If I'm right, Superman Volume 2 should feature the following episodes;

Identity Crisis
Target
Mxyzpixilated
Action Figures
Double Dose
Solar Power
Brave New Metropolis
Monkey Fun
Ghost in the Machine
Father's Day
World's Finest (1)
World's Finest (2)
World's Finest (3)
The Hand of Fate
Bizarro's World
Prototype
The Late Mr. Kent

Should be a great set. Which episodes do you think will have commentary on them?
Still no Apokolips Now? Arrrrghhh! Though I'll finally be able to sell my Batman-Superman Movie disc.

As for which episodes should get commentary:

Mxyzpixilated
World's Finest (1)
Brave New Metropolis
Identity Crisis

Hero Supreme

02-13-2005, 10:47 AM

So, this Saving the World DVD. Worth getting or not? I haven't seen any JLU.

EDIT: They'd probably only do one commentary for one of the 3-Part episode - I'd suggest they do it on the third and final part.

it would be worth getting to see the episodes, or if there will never be plans to release the episodes in a decent format, but that is uncertain. but then again, the disk is pretty cheap > $10.

as for commentaries, you make me laugh :D . i dont expect any at all.

Fone Bone

02-13-2005, 10:48 AM

World's Finest Part 1
Mxyspxilated
The Late Mr. Kent
Brave New Metropolis

Stu

02-13-2005, 10:51 AM

Still no Apokolips Now? Arrrrghhh! Though I'll finally be able to sell my Batman-Superman Movie disc.

As for which episodes should get commentary:

Mxyzpixilated
World's Finest (1)
Brave New Metropolis
Identity Crisis

I'd go for that too. With the possible exception of The Late Mr. Kent

Who knows? They may surprise us with more commentaries this time. :)

Batman Fan

02-13-2005, 11:48 AM

In B:TAS Vol.3, will they include episode #85, "Batgirl Returns" and have 29 episodes on that set, or will the include that episode in Vol.4 with TNBA?

Stu

02-13-2005, 12:07 PM

I'd assume so, and then TNBA can be packaged as one set.

But we are talking about Warner Home Video. :sweat:

Style

02-13-2005, 12:18 PM

In B:TAS Vol.3, will they include episode #85, "Batgirl Returns" and have 29 episodes on that set, or will the include that episode in Vol.4 with TNBA?
They crammed eight episodes onto STAS vol 1 disc 2 side A,(whew!) and with 3 commentaries and a documentary to boot! I think WB can break their "7 eps to a disc" rule to put Batgirl Returns on the set too.

MrTuesday

02-13-2005, 12:51 PM

Personaly, I hope they keep the "Batman and Robin" opening/ending for the respective episodes on BTAS vol. 3. Even though that might not happen.

It feels like the JLU DVD is a joke. Thye could easly put more JLU eps on a DVD. If they can put 6/7 eps on the Teen Titans DVDs, there's no reason not to do the same for JLU.

Silly McGooses

02-13-2005, 01:18 PM

http://www.laoffice.com/01-13-05-WHV.asp
according to this, The Batman DVDs will be released 2nd, 3rd and 4th quarter of 2005. There's also a pic of the Batman vs. Dracula DTV (4th quarter)

Crossdive

02-13-2005, 02:40 PM

are they putting Justice League and Justice League Unlimited onto DVD in chronological order or some other pattern, also, are they planning to release the whole show (both shows) in the manner they have been or is there a possibility of a box set like Batman TAS and Superman TAS are getting.

Silly McGooses

02-13-2005, 02:47 PM

Right now, we dont quite know what's going on. There's a possibility of box sets.

Crossdive

02-13-2005, 02:49 PM

thanks, but what about my other question, how are they sorting the order of the eps for DVDs?

Silly McGooses

02-13-2005, 02:56 PM

oh, pretty much in chronological order so far, except for the crappy JLU release coming out Tuesday, which you SHOULD NOT buy.

Doomsday

02-13-2005, 03:15 PM

World's Finest Part 1
Mxyspxilated
The Late Mr. Kent
Brave New Metropolis

Thats what I'm thinking too. It might be the third part of WF and instead of Brave New Metroplois it might be Identify Crisis. I'll still go with part one of WF because it's when Superman meets Batman. Good stuff.

Stu

02-14-2005, 06:12 PM

From the sounds of thigns, The Batman is getting a 3 episode a disc treatment, and season one will be released throughout the year.

I like the finally and all, but I refuse to pay for a disc with a mere 3 episodes on it. Movies made into 3 part episodes, I can understand, but when Teen Titans is getting 6/7 episodes a disc, why the hell are other shows getting worse treatment? I understand they're testing the market, but 3 episodes a disc in this day and age, where people usually want to have complete collections of shows is nothing short of a complete joke.

And before anyone starts, I already know about how anime is treated on DVD. :p

Hero Supreme

02-14-2005, 06:45 PM

From the sounds of things, The Batman is getting a 3 episode a disc treatment, and season one will be released throughout the year.

if any show deserve to get the shaft i would say The Batman does, but my first thought was that the first two releases would be season 1, and the third release would be the first half of season 2. is this even possible? when does The Batman season 2 begin? what is up with the 3 show per disk treatment anyways? i think that in the long run companies will make more money by producing quality products than by trying to milk their costumers with crappy releases. case in point, that JLU disk 1 doesnt like its going to sell well, not because people dont like JLU, but because its not want us costumers want.

sdp

02-14-2005, 10:21 PM

You know what i'd really enjoy but i know it would never happen, a greatest hits Static Shock collection, with his origin, the special guest episodes, and key episodes like when characters are introduced that are important, and of course the best episodes of the series since i know the special guest ones are not usually the best.
It's just that i don't like the show enough to buy the entire series, but would love to have it with my collection.

I know it would never happen, it's more likely that we get season box sets.

Toddman

02-14-2005, 10:52 PM

If I'm right, Superman Volume 2 should feature the following episodes;

Identity Crisis
Target
Mxyzpixilated
Action Figures
Double Dose
Solar Power
Brave New Metropolis
Monkey Fun
Ghost in the Machine
Father's Day
World's Finest (1)
World's Finest (2)
World's Finest (3)
The Hand of Fate
Bizarro's World
Prototype
The Late Mr. Kent

Should be a great set. Which episodes do you think will have commentary on them?I think you missed one, Spidey. With 18 episodes set for each volume of STAS, Heavy Metal should be the last episode on Volume 2.

As for which episodes will get commentaries...well if Paul Dini gets his way, Mxyzpixilated will be a shoe-in. Not my personal first choice, that's for sure. I'd also love commentaries on---

The Late Mr. Kent
Ghost in the Machine
World's Finest part 1

I would gladly trade Ghost and 'Pixilated for commentaries on the other two parts of WF though.

Toddman

Bird Boy

02-15-2005, 12:30 AM

Cover art for the upcoming TT release has been tweaked (snapper case now. joy.) and back art as well. More here (http://news.toonzone.net/article.php?ID=1311).

-BB

efumf

02-15-2005, 06:55 AM

Now that Justice League Unlimited - Saving the World has been released, anyone know if it's anamorphic 16:9? Just wondering.

James Harvey

02-15-2005, 07:03 AM

The talkback for the new DCAU DVD release is now online:

-Justice League Unlimited: Saving the World (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=134071)

The next schedule DCAU DVD release is Teen Titans: Switched - Season One, Volume Two on Apri 12th, 2005.

The Clown Prince

02-16-2005, 12:59 AM

Well, I've been holding out on the two Batman volumes, the Batman direct to video movies, and Superman vol. 1 only for the fact that I didn't want to get shafted buying those, and then never see the rest of those two series put on DVD.

So, and I apologize if this has been answered yet, but is WB Home Video releasing season/volume sets of Justice League/Unlimited?

Anyword on Batman Beyond? Since now Terry McGuiness has guest starred in a time travel episode of JLU, now I really want BB on DVD now for sure.

I've been such a fan of the DCAU over the years. I really have to give props to everyone that has been involved in the shows over the years. I think my favorite thing about all of the shows, is the fact that they share the same continuity and universe. WB could have easily made Superman and Justice League be separate shows and never be within the same time line as Batman. Same goes for Batman Beyond. That's why I want all of these shows on DVD. It will make quite the collection of wonderful episodes to watch again and again for years to come.

The Clown Prince

Temple Fugate

02-16-2005, 09:42 AM

So far, no information has come from WBHV about season sets for BB, JL or JLU. I'm guessing they're going to run with BTAS and STAS for now, and once those have finished, they'll start releasing the other series.

Robin

02-16-2005, 12:02 PM

I'm guessing they're going to run with BTAS and STAS for now, and once those have finished, they'll start releasing the other series.That's what I think, too. I wish WHV would just say that instead of making us fans wait. But I guess that method makes us buy the single disc releases in fear that we'll get nothing else, but I would buy the single disc sets even if I knew for sure box sets were on the way. I like having both available. If there is an episode on both the box set and single disc I want to watch, I'll use the single disc. That way my box sets will stay in better shape longer.

Dogbert

02-16-2005, 12:09 PM

I like having both available. If there is an episode on both the box set and single disc I want to watch, I'll use the single disc. That way my box sets will stay in better shape longer.:shrug: Save your money and buy two box sets... Or just make copies of your DVDs; the way you would be doing it would be considered "fair-usage" as far as I know.

adoptedBatpuppy

02-16-2005, 01:43 PM

I wonder if they are going to do summaries on all of the episodes? :D I think it's too much to ask. :eek:

Style

02-16-2005, 03:45 PM

EJill34

02-16-2005, 03:50 PM

I'll throw my hat in and speculate about BTAS: The Collector's Edition.

First, I don't think it's the whole series archived all over again. (unless its an HD-DVD or something.)

Personally, I'd probably think something along the lines of the Family Guy Freakin' Sweet collection.

Probably a 2 disc set with a "best-of" selection of 10 episodes or so, featuring episodes getting commentary that didn't on the main sets, and some new special features.
That seems like a pretty good guess. If there are new special features and commentaries that would be pretty fuggin' sweet. I'm going to pick it up no matter what, so the more features, the better.

efumf

02-16-2005, 04:06 PM

I kinda doubt that - they only did the Freaking Sweet Collection once all the Family Guy seasons were released. Why would they do a best of when they're still releasing the box sets? Any new extras they've got would be on the 2 upcoming sets. And a "best of" would be just another single disk release compiling random episodes - Hardly a "collector's edition". the DC Classics sets are for the collector.

But I am very curious as to what this could be.

Cluracan

02-16-2005, 08:20 PM

This loks like the most obvious way to do the third volume of the Batman TAS DVDs. That is unless they split Batman TAS and Andventures of Batman and Robin.

Disc 1
#057 - Shadow of the Bat: Part 1

#061 - Shadow of the Bat: Part 2

#058 - Blind As A Bat

#059 - The Demon's Quest: Part 1

#063 - The Demon's Quest: Part 2

#060 - His Silicon Soul

#062 - Fire From Olympus

Disc 2

#064 - Read My Lips

#065 - The Worry Men

#066 - Sideshow

#067 - A Bullet For Bullock

#068 - Trial

#069 - Avatar

#070 - House and Garden

Disc 3

#071 - The Terrible Trio

#072 - Harlequinade

#073 - Time Out Of Joint

#074 - Catwalk

#075 - Bane

#076 - Baby-Doll

#077 - The Lion and the Unicorn

Disc 4

Side A
#078 - Showdown

#079 - Riddler's Reform

#080 - Second Chance

#081 - Harley's Holiday

Side B

#082 - Lock-Up
#083 - Make 'Em Laugh

#084 - Deep Freeze

#085 - Batgirl Returns

FunTurtle

02-17-2005, 10:37 PM

I was at the Best Buy, and I saw these little...baby DVDs...tiny discs that are small DVDs of Starcrossed, the Teen Titans and Static Shock. They're adorable, but the ones with episodes on them only have half the episodes that the normal versions have. I think these are supposed to be played on the new Playstation Portable or something.
Oh, and on the back of the Mini Starcrossed DVD (and on the back of the big one I own and havent checked, no doubt) it says that the soundtrack is available through WB music or something. They made a soundtrack? Has anybody seen this anywhere? And whats on it?
I really want to find that remixed slow JL theme from the DVD...that makes me tear up every time I see it.

Fone Bone

02-17-2005, 10:48 PM

I saw those today too. They only play half the episodes for 2/3s of the price so that's a rip-off mathmatically at least. I also have no idea how the picture and sound quality is for them.

Bird Boy

02-17-2005, 10:56 PM

Style

02-17-2005, 11:00 PM

They're actually not for the PSP, they're just for some "on the go" DVD player that should be right next to the discs. It's the stupidest thing I've ever seen; less video, lower quality and a machine you have to buy to play them. The fact you can get bigger, better versions for the same price makes it all the more stupid.

Did I mention they're stupid?

-BB
I think they do play on normal DVD players, but if they are missing half the eps, whats the point?

On the other hand, they could put a mini version of JLU: Saving the world out and not miss any eps from the big release...Hmm...I wonder if THAT'S the reason that disc only had 3 eps?

Fone Bone

02-17-2005, 11:27 PM

I think they do play on normal DVD players, but if they are missing half the eps, whats the point?

On the other hand, they could put a mini version of JLU: Saving the world out and not miss any eps from the big release...Hmm...I wonder if THAT'S the reason that disc only had 3 eps?Yeah, the sales guy told me they play on regular DVD players too. But I have no clue what the resolution or whatever you call it is.

Bleu Unicorn

02-18-2005, 08:44 AM

Yeah, the sales guy told me they play on regular DVD players too. But I have no clue what the resolution or whatever you call it is.
On a TV you wouldn't notice it being that much different. But if you play it on a computer, it's pretty obvious that they're subpar DVDs.

Dogbert

02-18-2005, 08:45 AM

Yeah, the sales guy told me they play on regular DVD players too. But I have no clue what the resolution or whatever you call it is.Resolution = 720 x 480 pixels standard. Bitrate = Up to 9.8 Mbps. They likely just cut the resolution in half and keep the same bitrate. Either way, DVD players would still work. No real reason to ever buy these. They're are marketed at people who think, "oh, a tiny little DVD. How cute, I'll get one for little [insert name here]ie."

Harley_Quinn

02-18-2005, 09:53 AM

Resolution = 720 x 480 pixels standard. Bitrate = Up to 9.8 Mbps. They likely just cut the resolution in half and keep the same bitrate. Either way, DVD players would still work. No real reason to ever buy these. They're are marketed at people who think, "oh, a tiny little DVD. How cute, I'll get one for little [insert name here]ie."
No kidding and why would you want a DVD that only plays a part of the episode?

Fone Bone

02-18-2005, 10:44 AM

No kidding and why would you want a DVD that only plays a part of the episode?I think they play the whole episode. Just only three of them instead of six.

Bird Boy

02-18-2005, 11:03 AM

Resolution = 720 x 480 pixels standard. Bitrate = Up to 9.8 Mbps. They likely just cut the resolution in half and keep the same bitrate. Either way, DVD players would still work. No real reason to ever buy these. They're are marketed at people who think, "oh, a tiny little DVD. How cute, I'll get one for little [insert name here]ie."

Ya know, that's one thing I don't get about DVDs...I know all my cartoons are in 640x480, not 720. I've seen some shots of BTAS that are taken at 720x480 and they looked kinda squished.

-BB

Dogbert

02-18-2005, 11:23 AM

Ya know, that's one thing I don't get about DVDs...I know all my cartoons are in 640x480, not 720. I've seen some shots of BTAS that are taken at 720x480 and they looked kinda squished.That sounds more like your display settings than your DVDs. 720x480, 704x480, 352x480, 352x240, and 352x240 pixels are the only formats supported by NTSC players according to VideoHelp (http://www.videohelp.com/dvd) (they know their stuff).

Bird Boy

02-18-2005, 11:36 AM

That sounds more like your display settings than your DVDs. 720x480, 704x480, 352x480, 352x240, and 352x240 pixels are the only formats supported by NTSC players according to VideoHelp (http://www.videohelp.com/dvd) (they know their stuff).

Hmmm. Now I'm even more confused; using WinDVD, my captures of JL "Injustice For All" come out as 628x479. I've used other programs to capture before (PowerDVD one of them) and they always came out distorted or smushed from their original aspect ratio. I know my monitor settings (1280x1024) do make certain things look different, but I noticed it even when I was on 1024x768.

I just figured full-screen DVDs were always 640x480, since that's what TV's broadcast in (unless I'm confusing that one now too)...

-BB

Supremus

02-18-2005, 11:39 AM

Ya know, that's one thing I don't get about DVDs...I know all my cartoons are in 640x480, not 720. I've seen some shots of BTAS that are taken at 720x480 and they looked kinda squished.

-BBCartoons on your PC are 640x480, or a different res, but still the same aspect ratio, because your PC monitor uses square pixels, and a TV does not.

NTSC is squashed vertically, PAL is squashed horizontally. Both formats are then stretched to look correct when played back on TV. DVD playback software on a PC will do the same, but if you do a screenshot, it will look squashed and has to be resized to the correct aspect ratio, if it's meant to be displayed on a PC.

Resolution = 720 x 480 pixels standard. Bitrate = Up to 9.8 Mbps. They likely just cut the resolution in half and keep the same bitrate. Either way, DVD players would still work. No real reason to ever buy these. They're are marketed at people who think, "oh, a tiny little DVD. How cute, I'll get one for little [insert name here]ie."Actually, mini-DVD claims to use the same resolution, so they most likely drop the bitrate. A normal DVD will have a bitrate of around 6000-8000kbps, but digital TV broadcasts sneak as low as 2000-3000kbps, so that would mean they could pretty much squeeze an entire single-layer DVD onto one of those little discs.

Dogbert

02-18-2005, 11:45 AM

Hmmm. Now I'm even more confused; using WinDVD, my captures of JL "Injustice For All" come out as 628x479. I've used other programs to capture before (PowerDVD one of them) and they always came out distorted or smushed from their original aspect ratio. I know my monitor settings (1280x1024) do make certain things look different, but I noticed it even when I was on 1024x768.

I just figured full-screen DVDs were always 640x480, since that's what TV's broadcast in (unless I'm confusing that one now too)...I don't know much about capture programs, but I do know normal TV is broadcast in 720x480. The 4:3 fullscreen format takes a 720x480 broacast/video input and stretches it to a 4:3 size. So suppose you had a hugh TV in standard format - it would take the 720 and makes it about 36", while keeping the 480 at 48". At least that's how I understand it to be...

Edit: Beaten to the punch...

A.J

02-18-2005, 12:39 PM

What a mess! :sweat:

Bird Boy

02-18-2005, 02:26 PM

Cartoons on your PC are 640x480, or a different res, but still the same aspect ratio, because your PC monitor uses square pixels, and a TV does not.

NTSC is squashed vertically, PAL is squashed horizontally. Both formats are then stretched to look correct when played back on TV. DVD playback software on a PC will do the same, but if you do a screenshot, it will look squashed and has to be resized to the correct aspect ratio, if it's meant to be displayed on a PC.

Ah. I think I'm sorta understanding it now. So I'm just use to the 640x480 since that's what I've been viewing and the DVD software is converting the 720x480 resolution to 640x480 because that's what it's supposed to look like...or. Yeah...

Ah well. I wish everything was just widescreen...that's easier to handle. :p

-BB

Dogbert

02-18-2005, 03:04 PM

Ah. I think I'm sorta understanding it now. So I'm just use to the 640x480 since that's what I've been viewing and the DVD software is converting the 720x480 resolution to 640x480 because that's what it's supposed to look like...or. Yeah...

Ah well. I wish everything was just widescreen...that's easier to handle. :p

-BBThat's closer to being right... Let's just say it is and go back to complaing about the JLU DVD. :anime:

Supremus

02-18-2005, 03:16 PM

Ah. I think I'm sorta understanding it now. So I'm just use to the 640x480 since that's what I've been viewing and the DVD software is converting the 720x480 resolution to 640x480 because that's what it's supposed to look like...or. Yeah...Correct.

Ah well. I wish everything was just widescreen...that's easier to handle. :pIf only, but unfortunately widescreen is an even greater source of confusion for many people, as they not only have to account for the NTSC/PAL aspect ratio, but also that of the anamorphic stretch, as well as any necessary cropping they will need to do as a result.

maxnugget

02-19-2005, 03:45 AM

Ah well. I wish everything was just widescreen...that's easier to handle. :p

-BB

lol...hardly!

Batman Fan

02-19-2005, 12:55 PM

Don't know if this has been answered on any other DCAU DVD talkbacks but can you buy MOTP and Subzero on DVD?

Bleu Unicorn

02-19-2005, 01:06 PM

Yup, Amazon.com still has them for sale.

Supremus

02-19-2005, 01:11 PM

Don't know if this has been answered on any other DCAU DVD talkbacks but can you buy MOTP and Subzero on DVD?You can grab them both for around $17 at deepdiscountdvd which is considerably cheaper than Amazon.

Bird Boy

02-19-2005, 07:45 PM

lol...hardly!

Well I know there's a ton of different versions of widescreen, but the mere fact that it's widescreen and stops there. Perhaps I should've said OAR instead, (which his almost always widescreen); it's not cropped to fill the screen and screw around with. That's really what I mean by why it's "easier"--getting people to understand it is a hell of a lot harder than it should be though.

-BB

Wanted

02-20-2005, 07:50 AM

3 episodes a disc for The Batman? WB'd better hope not!

Batman Beyond box sets? I'm all for. And, considering that it's the third show in the DC Animation line, that makes it even more probable.

JLU DVD? I think not.

Robin

02-21-2005, 01:37 PM

3 episodes a disc for The Batman? WB'd better hope not!
I don't think that is going to happen. The Batman is going to have a 26 episode season next year and it apparently is going to start early. So by the time the fourth quarter release comes around, there could be plenty of second season episodes to put into DVD. There is still a good chance that The Batman will get DVD releases like Teen Titans.

Duke

02-23-2005, 08:08 AM

B:TAS Vol. 3 and Superfriends Vol. 2 have a release date set.

http://news.toonzone.net/article.php?ID=1869

Dogbert

02-23-2005, 08:20 AM

B:TAS Vol. 4 and Superfriends Vol. 2 have a release date set.

http://news.toonzone.net/article.php?ID=1869You might want to change that to B:TAS Vol. 3 before too many people get confused.

Great news though!

Duke

02-23-2005, 08:26 AM

You might want to change that to B:TAS Vol. 3 before too many people get confused.
Whoops. :ack: I had that "What kind of extras on Vol. 4?" thread from the DVD Forum stuck in my head.

Robin

02-23-2005, 08:29 AM

I'll wait until Bird Boy posts the news up before I comment. He tends to do a great job on the DVD news and usually includes some great artwork, too. This post looks like a mess, so I'm gonna wait until Bird Boy gets his up.

But based on what DVDToons.com has up, I can already see the complaints starting to role in.

Douglas Fir

02-23-2005, 08:48 AM

Oooooohhhhhhhh - more SuperFriends and more Batman:TAS!

So B:TAS Vol.3 will contain the Ra's Al Ghul episodes right - I can't wait!

Hopefully on Wave 5 of these discs they'll start doing either JL or Batman Beyond sets (as I presume that Wave 4 will be Batman: TAS Vol. 4 and Superman: TAS Vol. 2)!

Robin

02-23-2005, 08:51 AM

I think this will lead to a BTAS Vol.4/STAS Vol. 2 wave, and then a STAS Vol. 3/Batman Beyond Vol. 1 wave afterwards. Well, I can only hope.

Simpler Simon

02-23-2005, 09:22 AM

Releasing in May? Sweet! I just grabbed vol. 2 last night!

As for the extras, not quite what I would've imagined, but that video commentary sounds really fun.

EDIT: Are we getting 28 episodes or 29? The TZ news posting says 28, but this isn't confirmed on the dvdtoons page.

Style

02-23-2005, 09:56 AM

Funkatron

02-23-2005, 10:24 AM

Yay to Batman Vol. 3!!! I'm a bit worried about volume 2 of Supes. But, as others said, it'll probably come with volume 4 of Batman. I only wish it came sooner.

You know what would be cool? If the WHV mad a box to hold all of Batman and made another, smaller one for Superman. That'd be sweet. Are you out there, lurking WB rep in the shadows??? Make it happen!!

BonyT

02-23-2005, 10:35 AM

A few observations about there being 28 eps on BTAS Volume Three instead of 29 (assuming that doesn't turn out to be simply a misprint):

If there was any doubt whether WHV will do a fourth volume & include TNBA, that doubt is now erased. ... Not that there really was much doubt, mind you; but a few people had expressed the idea that maybe WHV would cut it off with 3 vols, ending with the TABR eps (the idea being that, because of its rebooted animation style, TNBA was to be considered a separate series, not really part of BTAS). That still would've actually been possible (at least in theory) *IF* Volume Three did have 29 eps; but the fact that they're leaving one TABR ep off of Volume Three guarantees a Volume Four; and since you can't do a Volume Four with only one episode on it, that guarantees TNBA will be there.
This also ends any doubt as to what Volume Four will be called. The question had been asked, will it still be called "BTAS," since it will have all TNBA eps in it? Or will the box say The New Batman Adventures? But this arrangement, with the last TABR episode at the beginning of Volume Four, makes it clear that WHV does consider all three shows -- BTAS, TABR & TNBA -- to be, collectively, Batman: The Animated Series, with no real distinction between them in terms of that general unity.
This does slightly reduce the extra space that will be available on Volume Four (which will now have 25 episodes). We've all speculated lately on what will fill that extra space; I'm not sure how much this will affect those speculations.

Hero Supreme

02-23-2005, 10:39 AM

is WHV dumb enough to release the current JL series as Superfriends: Volume X?

Funkatron

02-23-2005, 10:40 AM

GF2814

02-23-2005, 10:41 AM

Well, the May release is just a little faster than I expected, (I was envisioning something mid-June.) So it's nice not to have to wait too long for the next set. Ofcourse, I have my concerns, (a drop from 4 commentaries to 3? Saving "Batgirl Returns" for vol. 4 where it will seem exceedingly out of place?) But hey, I'll still lap it up and love it.

The Superfriends vol 2 is a little disappointing, (I think we all agree we would have much rather gotten STAS vol 2, but I still feel comfortable it is coming, one of these days.) You see, I love Challenge of the Superfriends, but this will feature other episodes with the Wondertwins, so I'm not really near as excited. Still, I might pick it up just for reference point.

Ofcourse, the big upshot here is that both sets are very likely to include free tickets to Batman Begins, which would be real nice of WB. If I drop 60 dollars on their DVDs, the least they could do is treat me to opening day of the new movie!:p

Ofcourse, I'm speculating it has tickets because BTAS vol 1 and Superfriends vol1 had tickets to Catwoman. Which I could never bring myself to use...
Bingo. I honestly didn't think of that, perfect tie in to Batman Begins, and I've heard they are rereleasing the feature films as well. I have to admit I am a bit uneasy about 28 episodes. I personally agree that 19 is the way to go, therefore creating TNBA in it's own set, yet still part of the whole. On a different note, where's Superman!? I have to admit I'm a bigger Superman fan than Batman. I know it's coming, I was just hoping for it a bit sooner. Hope to hear some announcement on JL or BB season sets like everyone else here and I wouldn't mind seeing a single disc of the Static crossovers either.

All in all good news! I can't wait and I have all the shows on tape and I haven't even finished watching volume 2 for either show yet, but ahh to own the DCAU...
Now if Disney would get their butts in gear and release X-Men, Spider-Man and the rest of Gargoyles my collection could be complete (evil laugh) I know Disney os off topic...;)

BonyT

02-23-2005, 10:48 AM

If that is the case, I wonder how extras would go for vol 4: spread out the eps and sprinkle the extras in(6/6/6/7)?? or stuff them all in the last disc(7/7/7/4)Depends on what they're doing with the extra space, I suppose: If they're just adding more featurettes or commentaries, maybe the 6/6/6/7 arrangement; but if they're giving us the Gotham Girls webisodes or the STAS or Static crossovers, then I'd guess a 7/7/7/4 arrangement, with the crossover stuff at the end.

My money's on the latter option. :)

EJill34

02-23-2005, 11:04 AM

3 commentaries and 1 featurette? Please tell me that's a misprint. I mean, I'm happy that its being released, but why decrease the extras from the last set? I really hope that Batman: The Collector's Edition has a crapload of new commentaries and featurettes.

EDIT: Are we sure that the set only has 28 episodes? Because the shorter running time might have to do with the fact that when the show switched to TAOB&R, a whole minute (or was it 2?) was shaved off the average episode length.

Duke

02-23-2005, 11:13 AM

Eh, there's probably more extras, but probably not much more than bios or trailers or something. Maybe WHV will surprise us.

That purple color on the cover, though, really, really sucks.

EJill34

02-23-2005, 11:17 AM

Eh, there's probably more extras, but probably not much more than bios or trailers or something. Maybe WHV will surprise us.I hope so. Many of us were speculating that they'd increase the amount of special features, but no such luck.

That purple color on the cover, though, really, really sucks.Meh, I don't care for it. I was looking forward to this set because I thought there would be a commentary on "The Demon's Quest" or "Showdown" which are two of my absolute favorite episodes. All the episodes that got commentaries I don't particularly care for, at least not as much as I do for some of the others ("Second Chance" anyone?). Still, I'm just happy its coming out, especially so soon after Volume 2!

EDIT: I just noticed something...why isn't Eric Radomski on any of the commentaries? I'm pretty sure he continued producing the show until the end of the first 85.

Style

02-23-2005, 11:48 AM

is WHV dumb enough to release the current JL series as Superfriends: Volume X? Whatever gave you that idea?

Simpler Simon

02-23-2005, 11:48 AM

I hope so. Many of us were speculating that they'd increase the amount of special features, but no such luck.
Can't speak for other WB boxed sets, but I know the Smallville boxes always packed in a sprinkling of bonus features instead of going all out. Season 2 had 4 commentaries on two episodes (one for crew, one for cast each), and season 3 had three commentaries total. Probably WB's way of cutting costs while actually giving ppl a bit more value for their money. Still, I'm stoked that Shirley Walker will actually be participating in the commentaries.

And I'm hoping WB will update the disc specs sometime. I don't think the bonus features will change, but there is still no official episode count, and the running time lists 609 min, which is shorter than the 624 min of vol 2. Was this the point when networks started shaving an extra min off episodes for commercials, or did that only start from STAS onwards?

EJill34

02-23-2005, 11:50 AM

And I'm hoping WB will update the disc specs sometime. I don't think the bonus features will change, but there is still no official episode count, and the running time lists 609 min, which is shorter than the 624 min of vol 2. Was this the point when networks started shaving an extra min off episodes for commercials, or did that only start from STAS onwards?
They started from TAOB&R.

Hero Supreme

02-23-2005, 11:54 AM

so, it looks like Bane is getting the spine portrait. if i had to pick batmans 4 most significant foes for the spines, i probably wouldnt have chosen bane, then again, i wouldnt have chosen the penguin either. *quack quack*

im quite looking forward to BTAS V3, especially as its coming so soon. maybe STAS V2 will be released before BTAS V4. it would be quite nice to have STAS V2 and Batman Beyond V1 launch together in say... July.

anyways, these superfriends releases annoy me quite a bit bc i truly believe that their release schedule will delay Justice League from getting season sets. and that should be a criminal offense. at the very least, Superfriends is delaying STAS V2 and even that is lame. DEATH TO SUPERFRIENDS!

BonyT

02-23-2005, 12:02 PM

That purple color on the cover, though, really, really sucks.Ah, so the color is purple. Well, I called it, about a month ago :p .

My call on Volume Four is gray. (Seems appropriate with the TNBA rebooted look.)

Bird Boy

02-23-2005, 01:01 PM

Just a few clarifications on the original article (it's since been edited):

• There was no episode count specified on the release. The run time is less than Vol. 2, however, so that leads me to believe it's less than 28. Time will tell what's on this release; video commentary is certainly interesting. I don't know if I prefer it over just another commentary, but we'll see.

• This is also the first time a list of episodes didn't accompany the announcement, which means it's still probably really early into production. Anything can change and probably will--release date included.

• Superfriends is only two discs, not four.

-BB

adoptedBatpuppy

02-23-2005, 01:05 PM

Wow! That was quick, I didn't expect WB to release Batman Vol 3 and Superfriends Vol 2, so soon. :D I just wish we got a Justice League and Static Shock Boxset now!

EJill34

02-23-2005, 02:09 PM

• There was no episode count specified on the release. The run time is less than Vol. 2, however, so that leads me to believe it's less than 28.Like I said on the last page, about a minute was shaved off of B:TAS when it turned into TAOB&R. Still, with 9 B:TAS episodes (22 minutes each) and (probably) 20 TAOB&R episodes (21 minutes each), that would amount to 618 minutes, which is 9 minutes longer than the running time that's given. Maybe they made a typo? It wouldn't be the first time they've done it on a press release ("The Main Man, Part" and "Selina Kyle/Catman" being two noticeable ones). They've also made terrible typos on their menus for the DCAU sets, so that could be the case here.

• This is also the first time a list of episodes didn't accompany the announcement, which means it's still probably really early into production. Anything can change and probably will--release date included.Hopefully things will change and we'll see an increase in commentaries and special features. I just don't see the logic in decreasing special features especially after seeing how the last two sets sold like hotcakes, which would probably increase the budget for this set.

Or, they could be saving all the good stuff for The Collector's Edition. I hope I'm not getting excited over nothing.

Mynd Hed

02-23-2005, 02:21 PM

Ofcourse, the big upshot here is that both sets are very likely to include free tickets to Batman Begins, which would be real nice of WB. If I drop 60 dollars on their DVDs, the least they could do is treat me to opening day of the new movie!:p

Ofcourse, I'm speculating it has tickets because BTAS vol 1 and Superfriends vol1 had tickets to Catwoman. Which I could never bring myself to use...

Batman Begins tickets would make me dance the dance of happy.

...When I got the Catwoman tickets, I was sorely tempted to go stand outside the theatre on opening night, find someone who was going to see it, and offer to give them my free ticket if I could punch them once in the face. "C'mon, it'll save you eight bucks. Eight bucks for a punch in the face."

If there was any doubt whether WHV will do a fourth volume & include TNBA, that doubt is now erased. ... Not that there really was much doubt, mind you; but a few people had expressed the idea that maybe WHV would cut it off with 3 vols, ending with the TABR eps (the idea being that, because of its rebooted animation style, TNBA was to be considered a separate series, not really part of BTAS). That still would've actually been possible (at least in theory) *IF* Volume Three did have 29 eps; but the fact that they're leaving one TABR ep off of Volume Three guarantees a Volume Four; and since you can't do a Volume Four with only one episode on it, that guarantees TNBA will be there.

Don't make too many assumptions about the common sense of WHV. They've been treating Batman relatively well lately, but they've got a much longer history of cranial-rectum interaction.

so, it looks like Bane is getting the spine portrait. if i had to pick batmans 4 most significant foes for the spines, i probably wouldnt have chosen bane, then again, i wouldnt have chosen the penguin either. *quack quack*

Considering that the two portraits we've gotten so far have been live-action movie villains, I'm kinda surprised they didn't go the obvious Batman Begins tie-in route and give this one to Ra's Al-Ghul.

johnnybvo

02-23-2005, 03:57 PM

Let me preface this by saying I (like many of you) just want the episodes more than anything. That being said only 3 comms? That really upsets me. I thought the ratio of episodes to comms on the STAS set was really nice and thought BTAS v2 got a bit short changed in comparison (no animated menu's, fewer comms) but was still happy with the release.

But just 3 comms? Video comms are kind of pointless IMHO cause I don't need to see the people talking if all they're doing...is well talking. The sweet spot on a 20+ episode set for me would be 7 comms or more. Maybe there are so few comms because they have Timm and Dini on them all. While I would love for them to be on every eps comm why not open them up a bit? I would be overjoyed to have Hamill and Conroy talk over a good Batman/Joker ep. They could even trail off and be a bit off topic just talking about general experiences on the show. I wouldn't mind that one bit. I gotta admit I'm really jazzed that Shirley Walker is on two of them.

The featurettes are nice but don't really add all that much, so there being just one is a bit sad but it doesn't bother me all that much. I hope they only have one (so far) because they're running out of Ideas. They could just come here and we could have a 18 pg thread of featurettes we would like to see.

It sounds like I'm crabby, but I'm not. So happy that these sets are coming out so fast. Just would have liked a few more comms.

I hope WBHV keeps rolling these sets out. Once BTAS is done start BB. once STAS is finished start JL. That would make me happy.

BonyT

02-23-2005, 04:00 PM

Don't make too many assumptions about the common sense of WHV. They've been treating Batman relatively well lately, but they've got a much longer history of cranial-rectum interaction.A valid (and picturesque :p ) historical observation. Nevertheless, I think the handwriting's on the wall in this case: We can count on a Volume Four, TNBA-inclusive.

As GMahler observed, 609 minutes (unless that figure's a typo) simply isn't enough run time for 29 eps, no matter how you slice it, even sans any extras/featurettes. That means one (or more) TABR eps will be left off of Volume Three. I just don't believe that, if WHV was planning to cut off the BTAS sets after TABR, they would give us all TABR eps except the last one or two of them. So that means a Volume Four; and since one or two episodes isn't enough for a volume, that means TNBA for sure.

I think. ;)

What's not clear at this point is whether Volume Four's gonna have all of the extra space that we've all been filling with our crossover wish lists. Volume Three may only have, for example, 27 eps -- because if WHV doesn't see any particular need to squeeze all of TABR onto Volume Three, then how can we know they'd especially want to put all of it but one episode on there? Might they not just as easily decide to leave a couple of the TABRs for Volume Four, perhaps simply to balance the two volumes a bit more in size? That would mean less chance for things like the Gotham Girls webisodes ... but we just don't know right now.

Mynd Hed

02-23-2005, 05:10 PM

A valid (and picturesque :p ) historical observation. Nevertheless, I think the handwriting's on the wall in this case: We can count on a Volume Four, TNBA-inclusive.

I'd certainly say that it's extremely likely, I just think that words and phrases like "guaranteed" and "all doubt erased" are an exaggeration. I mean, if WHV were retarded enough to not release a Vol. 4 in the first place, it's not that much of a stretch to imagine that they'd be retarded enough to drop an episode or two from the end of Vol. 3 never to be released. I'd say that the exclusion of the last episode or two from Vol. 3 doesn't significantly change the odds of a Vol. 4-- they're where they've always been. Really, really good, but not 100%.

Meow

02-23-2005, 05:28 PM

I'm kind of disappointed that there are so few commentaries, but on the plus side at least one of the three is going to be "Harlequinade". (my favorite episode) I was really hoping that would be one of them. I can't wait for this set, and I'll be sure to pick it up as soon as it comes out.

I would be overjoyed to have Hamill and Conroy talk over a good Batman/Joker ep. They could even trail off and be a bit off topic just talking about general experiences on the show. I wouldn't mind that one bit.
Yea, that would be great. I love hearing those two talk about the show. (I'm always really interested in what Mark has to say in those featurettes.) I wonder if anyone's ever even asked them about it.

Batman Fan

02-23-2005, 05:33 PM

Wow! This is great news, I am so happy it's Vol.3 is coming out this fast. Although I am a little bit dissapointed with the special features:sad: The commentaries have also decreased, which sucks, but maybe that will change. They did pick some weird episodes for commentaries. There good episodes (Harlequinade being one of my fav. episodes) but I would have liked to see commentaries on Demons Quest, Second Chance, Catwalk, Deep Freeze, Riddler's Reform, Trial, and Bane, not all of them but they're the ones I'd like to see the most instead of Read My Lips and House and Garden but they were picked by the creators in the top 10 episode list so it makes sense for them to do commentaries on these episodes.

I hope that they will fit all 29 B:TAS and TAOB&R on Vol.3 so that on Vol.4 they can fit all the S:TAS and SS crossovers on it:D

Helena Wayne

02-23-2005, 06:18 PM

anyways, these superfriends releases annoy me quite a bit bc i truly believe that their release schedule will delay Justice League from getting season sets. and that should be a criminal offense. at the very least, Superfriends is delaying STAS V2 and even that is lame. DEATH TO SUPERFRIENDS!
Come on, be fair. Besides the fact that there are Superfriends fans who want more volumes to be released (count me as one of them!), I don't think it's fair to blame the show for the lack (or delay) of a Justice League box set. The first set of Superfriends came out, what, a year ago? From then until May there was ample time and opportunity for a Justice League box set but what do we get? More 4 episodes per disc releases (discounting the current pathetic release of Justice League Unlimited).

I want a box set of Justice League as much as anyone; probably more so since I don't have cable tv. But it's clear that WHV is putting the brakes on season sets for the show, no matter what's released in its place.

Why you ask? Perhaps they feel that the show is too new and not guaranteed hot sales, or perhaps they're concerned that if too many of the episodes were commercially available, no one would tune in to watch the show on Cartoon Network. Maybe there's some sort of deal they made with CN that safeguards that.

They probably figure that Batman: The Adventure Series, Superman: The Adventure Series, and Superfriends sell well because they're old and not shown as much in syndication. I don't agree with this assessment but it may be why they're doing things this way.

What say any of you?

In either case, I don't think we can blame Superfriends for there not being any Justice League box sets anymore than we can blame The Batman for there not being any releases of Batman Beyond.

Ed

Douglas Fir

02-23-2005, 06:34 PM

Anyone else noticed that it's kinda odd they're calling the new SuperFriends set "Challenge of the SuperFriends Season 2" because there was only ever one season made! I presume from the mention of Dracula (not to mention Zan and Jayna) in the press release that they're releasing what are often referred to as "the lost episodes" which were the 16 classic team stories that aired before the 16 already released Challenge of the SuperFriends as part of an hour long block when they first aired (see here for more details: http://quicksitebuilder.cnet.com/rob_63/willsultimatesuperfriendsepisodeguide/id12.html).

I guess because they called the first set "Season 1" they don't have much choice but it is kinda misleading! Also I remember reading they also used to do extra bits for between segments - like short messages - was that for Challenge or for another incarnation of SuperFriends - it it was Challenge I hope they include those on the DVD (in fact I have a download somewhere of a short Bizarro for President clip that is very cool - if there are more things like that out there I want them on this DVD)!

EDIT - Just did a search and realised that Bizarro for President was done by Cartoon Network! But I definately do remember reading about some extra bits for between segments but obviously that wasn't one of them!

Bones Justice

02-23-2005, 06:46 PM

Come on, be fair. Besides the fact that there are Superfriends fans who want more volumes to be releasedI can agree with that. Aside from Apache Chief, I didn't really care for the show but I've seen lots of fan material out there. They deserve to see their favorite show released on DVD, too.

They probably figure that Batman: The Adventure Series, Superman: The Adventure Series, and Superfriends sell well because they're old and not shown as much in syndication. I don't agree with this assessment but it may be why they're doing things this way.
I don't have a clue what their reasoning is for not releasing Justice League. They don't re-run episodes at all in my area. They barely show JLU here. They stopped showing encore episodes of JLU so if they screw up the airing (aka TOAFT part 1) I have to wait at least months. Other episodes of JL, like Wild Cards, was never repeated where I live.

I can't understand how they think people are not interested in buying the episodes. Every online retailer that posts user reviews has people begging for sets or better single disc releases. Pirates are selling sets of both shows everywhere.

Hero Supreme

02-23-2005, 06:59 PM

Why you ask? Perhaps they feel that the show is too new and not guaranteed hot sales, or perhaps they're concerned that if too many of the episodes were commercially available, no one would tune in to watch the show on Cartoon Network. Maybe there's some sort of deal they made with CN that safeguards that.

They probably figure that Batman: The Adventure Series, Superman: The Adventure Series, and Superfriends sell well because they're old and not shown as much in syndication. I don't agree with this assessment but it may be why they're doing things this way.

Ahh, but thats the thing, Justice League isnt in syndication. And in fact, some episodes of JL season 2 (Wild Cards) were only shown a couple of times. Which brings up an excellent point. Why isnt Justice League getting more play? It just seems to me, that if they released both Superfriends and Justice League sets simultaneosly, the products would compete, since to the uninformed mom, both shows are somewhat similar.

In either case, I don't think we can blame Superfriends for there not being any Justice League box sets anymore than we can blame The Batman for there not being any releases of Batman Beyond.

But the fact that they are currently releasing BTAS sets will likely delay the release of possible The Batman season sets.

Batman Beyond on the other hand is WHVs redheaded step child (apologies to any red headed step children out there that may have taken offense). Its not a "classic" character. its not really a kids show. Its not "hot" right now. I can understand why WHV got bored with its releases, but I hope they dont forget about this series.

Helena Wayne

02-23-2005, 07:02 PM

I can't understand how they think people are not interested in buying the episodes. Every online retailer that posts user reviews has people begging for sets or better single disc releases. Pirates are selling sets of both shows everywhere.
It may not be due to an assumed lack of interest. Like I said, it's still a young show and is currently airing new episodes on Cartoon Network. Maybe there's some sort of arrangement with CN that they can't release full season sets for fear of taking away CN's potential audience. But then again, if CN is hardly airing the show at all, then perhaps it's something else.

In any case, I'm sure they're aware that there's a demand for the show. One skimmed search on Ebay will tell ya that much.

Anyone else have any theories besides WHV being clueless?

Ed

Hero Supreme

02-23-2005, 07:04 PM

I can agree with that. Aside from Apache Chief, I didn't really care for the show but I've seen lots of fan material out there. They deserve to see their favorite show released on DVD, too.

how did Superfriends Volume 1 sell? did it do well? i bet that many of season 1 sales were a result of people's overly fond memories of a childhood show. especially since they were the legion of doom eps. once they actually watched the shows, they realized that it wasnt quite as good as they remembered. I would be surprised if future volumes of Superfriends sell nearly as well as the first did. but then again, ive been known to be wrong all the time.

Bird Boy

02-23-2005, 07:05 PM

Anyone else noticed that it's kinda odd they're calling the new SuperFriends set "Challenge of the SuperFriends Season 2" because there was only ever one season made!

Erm...they're not. It's just "Superfriends: Season 2." The first release was indeed titled "Season One", but the new release has no mention of "Challenge of the Superfriends" in the title...

As for why JL isn't being released in sets--it's still too new. They consider JLU as just more seasons of JL, so it (JL) technically still is in syndication everytime JLU airs.

There's also the same reason why they're not releasing Batman Beyond yet; if they do too many DCAU releases in a row, they deplete their library faster, they stretch creators who provide commentaries and extras for the sets. They're in it for profit over the fans and if they rush it all out, we'll get inferior product and there will just be more complaints.

-BB

Helena Wayne

02-23-2005, 07:13 PM

Fone Bone

02-23-2005, 07:41 PM

Erm...they're not. It's just "Superfriends: Season 2." The first release was indeed titled "Season One", but the new release has no mention of "Challenge of the Superfriends" in the title...

As for why JL isn't being released in sets--it's still too new. They consider JLU as just more seasons of JL, so it (JL) technically still is in syndication everytime JLU airs.

There's also the same reason why they're not releasing Batman Beyond yet; if they do too many DCAU releases in a row, they deplete their library faster, they stretch creators who provide commentaries and extras for the sets. They're in it for profit over the fans and if they rush it all out, we'll get inferior product and there will just be more complaints.

-BBI can buy this, but I still wish we had more DCAU series in box sets faster.

When is Superman Volume Two going to be released?

William C. Maune

02-23-2005, 09:23 PM

There's also the same reason why they're not releasing Batman Beyond yet; if they do too many DCAU releases in a row, they deplete their library faster, they stretch creators who provide commentaries and extras for the sets. They're in it for profit over the fans and if they rush it all out, we'll get inferior product and there will just be more complaints.

All very true, and I'd like to add something else. If they dump too many of these box sets on to the market at once, the die-hard fans may pick them all up, but the general public won't (and even some of the big fans might not have the dough to pick them all up.

If WB releases box sets for Batman, Superman, Beyond and JL all at the same time, Joe Consumer isn't going to pick up all four. Instead, he'll probably just pick up one or two at most. However, if WB releases a couple boxes now and then a couple boxes 6+ months later, Joe Consumer may shell out for another box or two. It's a lot easier to convince the buyer to spend $30 here and there than to convince them to spend $100+ in one fell swoop.

Mister Intensity

02-23-2005, 10:29 PM

Based on the description, it looks like WHV is releasing the episodes from the first half-hour of Challenge of the Superfriends, which featured the Wonder Twins and are often lumped together with the World's Greatest episodes in people's minds. So think of it as a companion piece to the Challenge box set.

Mister Intensity

Singularity

02-23-2005, 10:42 PM

but if they're giving us the Gotham Girls webisodes or the STAS or Static crossovers, then I'd guess a 7/7/7/4 arrangement, with the crossover stuff at the end. There's absolutely no need to put the S:TAS crossovers in there if they're going to put them into the S:TAS sets as well. Which they will.

Jimbo

02-23-2005, 10:55 PM

You can't please everyone all the time.

I'm just happy at the fact that WHV is actually releasing shows like Batman: The Animated Series, and Superman: The Animated Series on DVD.

I remember Christmas shopping back in 2001, and the only DCAU DVDs available were Batman Beyond: The Movie, Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker, and Batman: The Animated Series: Mask Of The Phantasm.

I think when they're done releasing Batman and Superman, they'll move on to Batman Beyond and Justice League box sets...we just need a little patience.

BonyT

02-23-2005, 11:47 PM

There's absolutely no need to put the S:TAS crossovers in there if they're going to put them into the S:TAS sets as well. Which they will.I agree that the STAS crossovers are unlikely. But understand, I wasn't especially advocating putting them on there; I was simply running down the list of options that folks have mentioned for what they'd like to see fill the extra space on Volume Four, and that is one of the options some have mentioned.

My personal preference, if WHV goes that route, would be Gotham Girls.

Bat Phil

02-24-2005, 10:00 AM

Bird Boy

02-24-2005, 10:03 AM

The fourth volume is presumeably "The New Adventures of Batman" (or "Gotham Knights" in some areas of the world), though with no definite episode count, we don't know for sure yet.

-BB

Silly McGooses

02-24-2005, 11:22 AM

Wait, the show was actually aired as Gotham Knights in some places? Was there a new opening or anything?

MrTuesday

02-24-2005, 12:47 PM

Will this be the last of the Fox aired 'Batman: The Animated Series'? From what I understand so far, the next sets will be the WB aired (and re-named) 'The Adventures Of Batman & Robin'.

Is this correct? Sorta.

"The Adventres of Batman and Robin" makes up season 3 and season 4 of the Fox series, making up 15 episodes. A new opeining was made showing Batman and Robin fighting side-by-side.

"The New Batman Adventures" is the 24 episode Kids WB series. Most people call the series "Batman: Gotham Knights" due to some episodes being released on video under that title.

As far as openings. During it's airong on Kids WB, TNBA shared a single opening with S:TAS as "The New Batman/Superman Adventures". In this case the episodes are classified by some as TNBA.

When released on video, and repeated on Cartoon Network, the show went back and used the original B:TAS opening. In this case the episodes are classified by some as "Gotham Knights"

Hope it helps.

Hockey Mask

02-24-2005, 08:03 PM

Actually, the episodes that will be included on this set are from The All-New Super Friends Hour from 1977. It actually pre-dates Challenge of the Superfriends by a year. It seems WHV is playing it fast and loose with the actual order of seasons, but I'm just grateful to be getting these episodes at all. Bring it on...

EdHi, all. I am brand new to the forum but a long time fan of SuperFriends and Justice League Unlimited. Hoping to clear things up...this newest release is from the Challenge of the SuperFriends season. In 1978 we got an hour of SuperFriends, the second half hour of the series were the Legion of Doom episodes that were released last year and the first half hour involved your main heroes and added the Wonder Twins. These episodes dedicated just one story per 30 minutes.

The Demons of Exxor

Rokan: Enemy From Space

Battle at the Earth's Core

Sinbad and the Space Pirates

The Pied Piper from Space

Attack of the Vampire

Terror From the Phantom Zone

The Beasts are Coming

The Anti-Matter Monster

World Beneath the Ice

Invasion of the Brain Creatures

The Incredible Space Circus

Batman: Dead or Alive

Battle of the Gods

Journey Through Inner Space

The Rise and Fall of the SuperFriends

The All-New SuperFriends which aired the year prior was a 60 minute show that had three seven minute short segments, one 21 minute segment. It also had what many remember as the "message decoding", "safety tips" and "arts and crafts" with our favorite heroes.

Don't confuse my love for the SuperFriends as being too "know-it-all" since I am new to the board but I am a huge fan of the League old AND new.

Helena Wayne

02-24-2005, 08:28 PM

Hi, all. I am brand new to the forum but a long time fan of SuperFriends and Justice League Unlimited. Hoping to clear things up...this newest release is from the Challenge of the SuperFriends season. In 1978 we got an hour of SuperFriends, the second half hour of the series were the Legion of Doom episodes that were released last year and the first half hour involved your main heroes and added the Wonder Twins.

The All-New SuperFriends which aired the year prior was a 60 minute show that had three seven minute short segments, one 21 minute segment. It also had what many remember as the "message decoding", "safety tips" and "arts and crafts" with our favorite heroes.

Don't confuse my love for the SuperFriends as being too "know-it-all" since I am new to the board but I am a huge fan of the League old AND new.

I'm just relaying what was stated on www.tvshowsondvd.com (http://www.tvshowsondvd.com) and they described in full the year prior to Challenge of the Superfriends with 3 shorts per episode along with safety tips. So it seems Volume 2 will indeed be what I said it was and not the distaff non-Legion of Doom episodes that you mention. Of course, I am basing this again at what was posted on www.tvshowsondvd.com (http://www.tvshowsondvd.com) and they're very reliable.

Guess we'll have to wait who's right when more info is made known. Either way, I'm happy. I know most tend to snub the show since the Bruce Timm revamps are much better (credit where credit is due) but Superfriends was part of my childhood, and seeing the Legion of Doom is what especially got me into comics, even if I was frustrated that I couldn't find Giganta in anything and that the Cheetah I came across didn't wear a cap.

It's still all good...

Ed

Hockey Mask

02-24-2005, 09:01 PM

Although the headline at TVshosonDVD.com mentions "All-New Superfriends Hour" this is where I got my reasoning...

They mention:
16 episodes --> although it is often mistaken their were only 15 episodes in the "All-New" series

1978--> The year of Challenge of the SuperFriends

2 disc set (365 mins) -->15 or 16 40+ min episodes would be well more than this running time.

Vampire episode-->see my previous post.

Quote from TVshowsonDVD.com--->"In 1978, the show continued, retitled as simply Superfriends. That season is the one which aired the episodes announced today for DVD release. At the same time, Challenge of the Superfriends was running adjacent to this, featuring the episodes of the Justice League of America vs. The Legion of Doom. All 16 of *those* episodes are already on DVD in Challenge of the Superfriends - The 1st Season (http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/releaseinfo.cfm?ReleaseID=3637).

MrTuesday

02-24-2005, 11:40 PM

Got a message from TVShowsOnDVD.com

JLU Vol 2 has a name. Justice League Unlimited - Joining Forces.

No other info known, though.

EJill34

02-24-2005, 11:47 PM

Got a message from TVShowsOnDVD.com

JLU Vol 2 has a name. Justice League Unlimited - Joining Forces.

No other info known, though.
It'll probably be another fullscreen release, so I guess I'll have to pass.

Spider-Man

02-25-2005, 12:13 AM

It'll probably be another fullscreen release, so I guess I'll have to pass. Is WB doing here what they did with the Batman:TAS cartoon? That they release a bunch of single DVDs and then the big box set? It does sound like another bad release. I wonder what episodes they will have out of order on this DVD.

James Harvey

02-25-2005, 12:39 AM

The Batman: Training for Power - Season One, Volume One has been officially announced by WHV. Toon Zone News has the information (http://news.toonzone.net/article.php?ID=1908).

Supremus

02-25-2005, 01:34 AM

Pffft! So The Batman joins the 3-Episode List of Shame. I would have been hesistant to pick it up even with 6-7 episodes, but now there is absolutely no way.

Given the "Kids Collection" label, I wonder if this $15 slap in the face isn't technically bordering on some sort of child abuse?

Crow

02-25-2005, 03:18 AM

Who else almost wet their pants when they read Shirley Walker's doing commentary on BTAS Vol 4?

I don't usually care for commentaries on any DVDs I have/want to get but I'm mad for Volume 3 now by crikey!

Simpler Simon

02-25-2005, 03:43 AM

Just watched the trailer for "The Batman" release. So this is where that new batwave toy/TV linkup will finally be used. If there were more episodes on this disc I'd actually be tempted to buy a disc and a toy to try it out.

Bleu Unicorn

02-25-2005, 05:25 AM

Wanted

02-25-2005, 07:49 AM

That much for three episodes? Never in my life. Sure, when they drop the price to (dang it, where's that money sign key) !@#$ (oh, there it is, number four [don't mistake that array of symbols for a curse]) $3.60, or $6.30, I'll reconsider.
All very true, and I'd like to add something else. If they dump too many of these box sets on to the market at once, the die-hard fans may pick them all up, but the general public won't (and even some of the big fans might not have the dough to pick them all up.

If WB releases box sets for Batman, Superman, Beyond and JL all at the same time, Joe Consumer isn't going to pick up all four. Instead, he'll probably just pick up one or two at most. However, if WB releases a couple boxes now and then a couple boxes 6+ months later, Joe Consumer may shell out for another box or two. It's a lot easier to convince the buyer to spend $30 here and there than to convince them to spend $100+ in one fell swoop.You are right. That's why I can't pick up what I want from the Hanna-Barbera Golden Collection. I only end up getting one set from each wave, and even then, that's hard.

warmachine04

02-25-2005, 07:53 AM

They have also announced the second JLU DVD release for late Spring. Sorry no box set releases. I hope that it is better than the first lackluster release. :sad:

Nice coverart for the Batman: TAS Volume 3. I hope that they announce upcoming Justice League and Superman volume sets soon. Can't stand seeing these simple one disc editions no more, except for Starcrossed of course.:)

warmachine04

02-25-2005, 07:56 AM

The Demons of Exxor

Rokan: Enemy From Space

Battle at the Earth's Core

Sinbad and the Space Pirates

The Pied Piper from Space

Attack of the Vampire

Terror From the Phantom Zone

The Beasts are Coming

The Anti-Matter Monster

World Beneath the Ice

Invasion of the Brain Creatures

The Incredible Space Circus

Batman: Dead or Alive

Battle of the Gods

Journey Through Inner Space

The Rise and Fall of the SuperFriends

These are some old favorites. Its been 15 years since Ive seen these episodes.

Hero Supreme

02-25-2005, 09:01 AM

That much for three episodes? Never in my life. Sure, when they drop the price to (dang it, where's that money sign key) !@#$ (oh, there it is, number four [don't mistake that array of symbols for a curse]) $3.60, or $6.30, I'll reconsider.You are right. That's why I can't pick up what I want from the Hanna-Barbera Golden Collection. I only end up getting one set from each wave, and even then, that's hard.

at least with these 3 episode disks, its seems that Warner is going to eventually relase the whole series. it would be worse is the episodes were completey chosen at random.

even with JLU V1, the episodes werent completely 'random,' though im not sure i understand what algorithm they used to pick those 3. while more than 3 eps per disk SHOULD be the standard, at least it appears that a committed fan could still get the complete set (though not in WS), which is a decent gesture by WHV, even though it would cost a pretty penny for all of them. i will be less antagonistic toward the JLU releases when the JL season 1 releases get back on track.

Silly McGooses

02-25-2005, 11:35 AM

Silly McGooses

02-25-2005, 11:38 AM

p.s. I meant "The Batman." The JLU situation, alas, is even more dire. not even in the OAR

Hero Supreme

02-25-2005, 12:48 PM

Now that we know that the series will end up at least 39 episodes long, it makes no sense whatsoever to release the show in 3-disc volumes. Just think about how long it will take to release! I'm not sure I'd even want it in 7-episode releases, but now...ugh!

actually, these 3 per disk releases have been fairly quick. faster than say... JL season 1 releases which seem to trickle about 1 per year. my main complain is in the missed opportunities. I could overlook the only 3 eps aspect if releases came out fast enough, and were given approriate extras/commentaries and presented in widescreen when applicable. the bottom line is, these 3 per disk DVDs are severely lacking in VALUE.

adoptedBatpuppy

02-25-2005, 01:17 PM

I can't believe that there are only three episodes for both The Batman and JLU.

Why did WB came out with JLU before the Justice League Adventures Season Sets. :crying:

Life is so unfair! Deal with it!

On the brighter note we will see Teen Titans for what it's worth.

Silly McGooses

02-25-2005, 01:18 PM

actually, these 3 per disk releases have been fairly quick. faster than say... JL season 1 releases which seem to trickle about 1 per year. my main complain is in the missed opportunities. I could overlook the only 3 eps aspect if releases came out fast enough, and were given approriate extras/commentaries and presented in widescreen when applicable. the bottom line is, these 3 per disk DVDs are severely lacking in VALUE.
I have a problem with both (value and timing). Oh, well, not very fond of The Batman, anyway.

Fone Bone

02-25-2005, 01:39 PM

at least with these 3 episode disks, its seems that Warner is going to eventually relase the whole series. it would be worse is the episodes were completey chosen at random.

even with JLU V1, the episodes werent completely 'random,' though im not sure i understand what algorithm they used to pick those 3. while more than 3 eps per disk SHOULD be the standard, at least it appears that a committed fan could still get the complete set (though not in WS), which is a decent gesture by WHV, even though it would cost a pretty penny for all of them. i will be less antagonistic toward the JLU releases when the JL season 1 releases get back on track.Yes, they were "random". And in full-screen. And only three episodes. WHV really knows how to piss off their consumer base. And while I understand William C. Maune's argument that to flood the market with every cartoon we ever wanted at once I have to wonder why they can't at least release their sets quarterly rather than two or three times a year. I could definately afford to pick up two sets every quarter and I'm relatively poor.

adoptedBatpuppy

02-25-2005, 02:01 PM

I wonder what three episodes this time will be on JLU Vol 2?

Mister Intensity

02-25-2005, 02:09 PM

Simpler Simon

02-25-2005, 02:14 PM

And while I understand William C. Maune's argument that to flood the market with every cartoon we ever wanted at once I have to wonder why they can't at least release their sets quarterly rather than two or three times a year.
What shows are actually released on a quarterly basis? Paramount got its Trek shows out at an insane rate, but a lot of other shows are quite lesiurely in their release. 3 sets a year is a decent number considering theres a ton of other releases to buy.

mahoney

02-25-2005, 02:18 PM

WHV really knows how to piss off their consumer base.
Well, part of their consumer base. The part that knows what they *could* be getting. I think a lot of the kids who will talk their parents into buying the discs for them really won't care - they'll just be jazzed to get a couple of eps. I used to argue with my young son in the store when he was into Yu-Gi-Oh, and he wanted me to buy a VHS of the show which had fewer episodes than the DVD would and wouldn't hold up over time as well, just because the VHS was all they had in stock. He just wanted his cartoon, man.

Which is not to say I myself am thrilled with these releases. I *do* know better than my kid on this front. :) I feel a little like my intelligence, and my pocket book, are being insulted by these skimpy, lackluster releases. I do think they'll sell okay, though, if the kid-consumer base is out there.

Fone Bone

02-25-2005, 02:19 PM

What shows are actually released on a quarterly basis? Paramount got its Trek shows out at an insane rate, but a lot of other shows are quite lesiurely in their release. 3 sets a year is a decent number considering theres a ton of other releases to buy.The Buffyverse actually. Buffy and Angel would alternate their releases every three months.

The Farscape Starburst editions are also coming out six times a year.

They may not have to release BTAS quarterly but they sure as heck could put out Batman Beyond or Justice League sets in the meantime.

jimmymiro12

02-25-2005, 06:15 PM

I just found out about this and didn't want tho read all of those posts so here is my question.
Will they make Superman Vol. 3?
Will they include the 2 episodes
Demon Reborn
Knight Time

Hero Supreme

02-25-2005, 08:42 PM

Will they make Superman Vol. 3?

probably, but there is no release date even for a possible volume 2 yet.

Will they include the 2 episodes
Demon Reborn
Knight Time

both of these episode will most likely be on volume 3 if they continue ordering the episodes by airdate order.

William C. Maune

02-25-2005, 08:47 PM

Well, part of their consumer base. The part that knows what they *could* be getting. I think a lot of the kids who will talk their parents into buying the discs for them really won't care - they'll just be jazzed to get a couple of eps. I used to argue with my young son in the store when he was into Yu-Gi-Oh, and he wanted me to buy a VHS of the show which had fewer episodes than the DVD would and wouldn't hold up over time as well, just because the VHS was all they had in stock. He just wanted his cartoon, man.

This is a great point about how different releases are intended for different markets. The box sets are for us. The little three disc releases are impulse buys for parents to get their kids. Each type of release serves a different aspect of the market.

Which is not to say I myself am thrilled with these releases. I *do* know better than my kid on this front. :) I feel a little like my intelligence, and my pocket book, are being insulted by these skimpy, lackluster releases. I do think they'll sell okay, though, if the kid-consumer base is out there.

The little three disc releases are crappy, and that is why we should not buy them, and they aren't meant for us anyway.

Edit:

The Buffyverse actually. Buffy and Angel would alternate their releases every three months.

While the Buffy and Angel sets were quarterly, there was only one release each quarter. Thus, while the DCAU releases are 2 every 4-6 months, the Whendonverse releases were 1 every three months. It averages out about the same either way.

Fone Bone

02-26-2005, 06:41 AM

This is a great point about how different releases are intended for different markets. The box sets are for us. The little three disc releases are impulse buys for parents to get their kids. Each type of release serves a different aspect of the market.

The little three disc releases are crappy, and that is why we should not buy them, and they aren't meant for us anyway.

Edit:

While the Buffy and Angel sets were quarterly, there was only one release each quarter. Thus, while the DCAU releases are 2 every 4-6 months, the Whendonverse releases were 1 every three months. It averages out about the same either way.True, but you also have to keep in mind that the Buffyverse didn't have a huge backlog of unreleased material. I would kind of like to have the entire DCAU (Static Shock, The Zeta Project, and Gotham Girls included) released on DVD before the next home video format change.:shrug:

And if you think about it Buffy released six discs at a time which is also what WHV is doing with their releases so maybe it IS twice as many.:p

Wanted

02-26-2005, 07:43 AM

DVDs won't be completely gone until 2018 or 2019, according to Bill Gates.

But, then again, when the new format comes, DVDs will be more popular than the format, and cheaper.

warmachine04

02-26-2005, 09:13 AM

Any news on what episodes will be featured in the next Justice League Unlimited DVD? Ive heard that the previous release was a big letdown.:sad:

Hero Supreme

02-26-2005, 09:22 AM

DVDs won't be completely gone until 2018 or 2019, according to Bill Gates.

But, then again, when the new format comes, DVDs will be more popular than the format, and cheaper.

well... if bill said it, it must be true :D

Funkatron

02-26-2005, 09:42 AM

DVDs won't be completely gone until 2018 or 2019, according to Bill Gates.

But, then again, when the new format comes, DVDs will be more popular than the format, and cheaper.
Uh huh. Like hewas right about the 640kb thing :p

William C. Maune

02-26-2005, 03:01 PM

True, but you also have to keep in mind that the Buffyverse didn't have a huge backlog of unreleased material. I would kind of like to have the entire DCAU (Static Shock, The Zeta Project, and Gotham Girls included) released on DVD before the next home video format change.:shrug:

And if you think about it Buffy released six discs at a time which is also what WHV is doing with their releases so maybe it IS twice as many.:p

Things like that don't necessarily matter to the general consumer though. Whether a series/universe has three sets or twenty sets, to them it is still shelling out for a box set and I don't think they are going to be willing to shell out for more boxsets in a shorter period of time. As for the Buffy sets being more discs, while they did also cost a little more, either way it is still a significant amount to shell out for entertainment at one time (Be it Buffy or B:TAS).

Douglas Fir

02-26-2005, 05:30 PM

The "kids" releases don't bother me too much - I don't buy them but at the very least if a full blown "DC Comics Classic Collection" doesn't happen for shows like JL, JLU, Titans or Static then at least I know I'll probably be able to get some episodes on DVD cheaply (because the prices eventually drop on those DVDs and they can be picked up reasonably cheaply from e-tailers... I mean I never planned to buy the uncut BB:ROTJ after paying full price for the original release but a while ago I got it online for cheaper than it would be to rent a movie)!

Crossdive

02-27-2005, 05:58 PM

any word on shows like Batman Beyond, Justice League, JLU, or some of the old DC shows getting box sets?

Duke

02-27-2005, 07:03 PM

any word on shows like Batman Beyond, Justice League, JLU, or some of the old DC shows getting box sets?
No, and we won't hear something truly concrete likely until 2006. (Maybe late this year if WHV feels generous)

Fone Bone

02-27-2005, 07:14 PM

Things like that don't necessarily matter to the general consumer though. Whether a series/universe has three sets or twenty sets, to them it is still shelling out for a box set and I don't think they are going to be willing to shell out for more boxsets in a shorter period of time. As for the Buffy sets being more discs, while they did also cost a little more, either way it is still a significant amount to shell out for entertainment at one time (Be it Buffy or B:TAS).Fine. Do you know what would be nice though? If WHV actually SAID they were planning on releasing JL/JLU/BB/SS/ZP sets in a couple of years. Then collectors wouldn't be suckered into buying their crap releases. I know you're going to say that's how they make money but it's a really crummy thing to do to the fans who just want to see their favorite shows on DVD.:mad: :shrug:

And if it's "just business" then maybe WHV shouldn't be pretending to give a crap about the fans by having online interviews and other such nonsense.

William C. Maune

02-27-2005, 07:24 PM

Fine. Do you know what would be nice though? If WHV actually SAID they were planning on releasing JL/JLU/BB/SS/ZP sets in a couple of years. Then collectors wouldn't be suckered into buying their crap releases. I know you're going to say that's how they make money but it's a really crummy thing to do to the fans who just want to see their favorite shows on DVD.:mad: :shrug:

I'm not going to say that's how they make money, but I will say that folks shouldn't buy the crappy releases. It'd be nice if WHV did lay out there full plans, but hardly any company lays out their plans that far in advance. There are probably some examples out there, but not many. However, considering new boxsets are continuing to be announced and released, I think it is safe to assume that future box sense are on the way. In the meantime, if there are crappy releases, fans shouldn't buy them.

And if it's "just business" then maybe WHV shouldn't be pretending to give a crap about the fans by having online interviews and other such nonsense.

Nobody is going to like everything a company does, and rightfully so. However, that doesn't mean we should jump on the good things they do put out. If they didn't care about fans to an extent then they wouldn't have online interviews. I'd much rather have the online interviews than no online interviews.

Fone Bone

02-27-2005, 07:31 PM

I'm not going to say that's how they make money, but I will say that folks shouldn't buy the crappy releases. It'd be nice if WHV did lay out there full plans, but hardly any company lays out their plans that far in advance. There are probably some examples out there, but not many. However, considering new boxsets are continuing to be announced and released, I think it is safe to assume that future box sense are on the way. In the meantime, if there are crappy releases, fans shouldn't buy them.I hope so. I'm getting VERY impatient and was VERY disappointed that BTAS V3 was the only DCAU set announced. And with even less extras. (Although that could change).

Nobody is going to like everything a company does, and rightfully so. However, that doesn't mean we should jump on the good things they do put out. If they didn't care about fans to an extent then they wouldn't have online interviews. I'd much rather have the online interviews than no online interviews.Not me. I'm sick and tired of getting my hopes up when WHV just does whatever they darn well please. I don't believe for a second any of those suggestions are taken seriously. It's all a PR deal, IMO. I'd rather WHV stop pretending to care one whit about what DCAU fans want and save myself the aggravation I felt when the first JLU disc was announced.

Robin

02-28-2005, 01:50 PM

I hope so. I'm getting VERY impatient and was VERY disappointed that BTAS V3 was the only DCAU set announced.You know, there are other DC Cartoons outside the Timm-designed shows, and that is why a new Superfriends DVD is released. That is why Teen Titans and The Batman is getting released. There is more out there. I have a feeling that once BTAS has release the last volume towards the end of the year, we'll see alot more DVD releases of the other Timm-designed series.

Firefly

02-28-2005, 02:18 PM

I was happy when I first read this but then I remembered that WHV delayed the last Volume from Dec to the end of Jan, I wonder if there gonna do it again with this one:sad:

DisneyBoy

02-28-2005, 04:13 PM

Don't ask me how I missed this, but I only found out about the 3rd DVD release minutes ago, while browsing the site-that-cannot-be-named.

And I've got some questions.

Some really big questions.

Well, three really.

Read my Lips? House and Garden? Harlequinade?

:crying: I...I mean, I hoped...

...what about Second Chance? Catwalk? Deep Freeze? The Demon's Quest? Shadow of the Bat?

So many fanatastic episodes were made during this batch...and yet you go and choose to comment on a Scarface episode I haven't seen, a harley episode that's alright, and an ivy episode that's kinda strange?

I don't mean to sound ungrateful here, especially since Shirley Walker is going to finally be making some comments on the episodes, as well as Michael Reeves...but why only three episodes, and why not ones that we really want to know more about?

I'm bummed. It's nice to get some extras, but really, given the scope of the series, and the amount of production materials and information WB has access to (Chipp Kidd only included a portion of what's there in his book, I'm sure!) this stints. Flat out stinks.

But I'm not mad. If Warner Bros releases some "Collector's Edition" version of the series with three times as many extras I'll be glad to see them, but furious at being tricked into buying the more kiddified version. I'm not made of money people.

Fone, could the extras on the disc really change, or are you just hoping here? And is there any concrete information regarding The Collector's Edition? I don't want to spread the rumor that there is one by mentionning something that doesn't really exist...

Fone Bone

02-28-2005, 05:29 PM

You know, there are other DC Cartoons outside the Timm-designed shows, and that is why a new Superfriends DVD is released. That is why Teen Titans and The Batman is getting released. There is more out there. I have a feeling that once BTAS has release the last volume towards the end of the year, we'll see alot more DVD releases of the other Timm-designed series.I have no problems with Superfriends being released. It would just be nice to have the DVDs released quarterly so if STAS sits out a release cycle we won't have to wait another eight months.:shrug:

DisneyBoy I doubt the extras will change. That's the party line I keep hearing about these DVDs where people "in the know" have heard that there are supposed to be better extras "on the next set" that never materialize.

Bird Boy

02-28-2005, 07:25 PM

I honestly don't want to shatter anyone's bubble, but I highly doubt the BTAS Collectors Edition will be anything more than a box with all the boxed sets inside (similar to that LOTR set). Granted there is a Vol. 1-4 shrinkwrap set coming out as well, so that kind of adds confusion. The only thing I can think of that might happen is a Zim-like set where you get a box to hold all the sets and a bonus disc. I can't see WB doing much more than that. I honestly and truly can't.

As for the extras on Vol. 3, I doubt they'll have anything else added to it. I can only guess the creators do choose the commentaries and for whatever reason, they wanted to do them on those episodes. Our favorite episodes don't necessarily reflect their favorites; or they're simply sparing us jibber jabber on commentaries they know they can't get everyone in for, remember much about or can talk about without retreading the same ground. In a way limited commentaries suck because we won't get one on that one favorite, but in another way we don't have to listen to the same thing over and over again.

It sucks, yes. WB's certainly not giving us all they could with these releases, but when it comes down to it, you are just buying the sets for the episodes. The extra features are always nice, yes, but there's only so many things they can talk about over 90+ episodes of a series that's over a decade old. I know you can compare any of this to Fox's glorious treatment of Simpsons, not only because it's older, but also because every episode has a commentary. It's great to have there, but fan or not, you do get tired of hearing about the same things over and over again.

The Collectors Edition was informally thrown into the related titles for Volume 2 of BTAS, right before it's release. It has no mention in Volume 3's related titles; however, nor do they list anything aside from a 1-3 pack. As utterly and undeniably official as WHV is, they do make errors. I had to buy STAS before I found out what part of Main Man had a commentary...

-BB

Robin

03-03-2005, 10:21 AM

I honestly don't want to shatter anyone's bubble, but I highly doubt the BTAS Collectors Edition will be anything more than a box with all the boxed sets inside (similar to that LOTR set). Granted there is a Vol. 1-4 shrinkwrap set coming out as well, so that kind of adds confusion. The only thing I can think of that might happen is a Zim-like set where you get a box to hold all the sets and a bonus disc. I can't see WB doing much more than that. I honestly and truly can't. Same here. I can't see WB adding even more extensive features to another DVD set. The extras on these releases so far have been on par, sometimes better, than their other TV Show releases. "WB owes it to us?" If anything, we owe them for making this show in the first place. I don't think alot of people here realize that some of their other TV show releases get close to nothing compared to what we get here. Yes, some sets do get alot of extras, but for the most part, the extras that Batman and Superman DVD sets have gotten are pretty good. Some of their single disc DVDs need work, but they have been doing an alright job.

Then again, I've come to think that fans expect too much and are incredibly spoiled, making gratification nearly impossible. Three commentaries is better than none. Besides, all I want are the episodes when it all boils down to it. If they want to throw in extras, then more power to them. But between Batman: Animated, this amazing website and countless others, and Bruce Timm even posting here, I think we've seen a fair amount of the behind the scenes process. But it never seems to be enough.

Bleu Unicorn

03-03-2005, 10:38 AM

It sucks, yes. WB's certainly not giving us all they could with these releases, but when it comes down to it, you are just buying the sets for the episodes. The extra features are always nice, yes, but there's only so many things they can talk about over 90+ episodes of a series that's over a decade old. I know you can compare any of this to Fox's glorious treatment of Simpsons, not only because it's older, but also because every episode has a commentary. It's great to have there, but fan or not, you do get tired of hearing about the same things over and over again.
I wouldn't say it sucks. What would suck is if we didn't get the box sets or even the individual disc releases. That would suck. You make an incredibly important point, BB, that I've been typing my fingers blue trying to get across here - it's about the episode. Every TV on DVD set is about the episodes! That's the purpose of them. Granted, some studios really put the works on when it comes to their TV on DVD treatments - FOX being the king, I'd say. But WHM certainly isn't doing the worst (I give that award to Paramount who aside from Star Trek basically shuns special features - even for other popular shows).

People complain too much for what they don't have and it just makes it harder for all of us to be happy with what we get because believe me, we could always have less. 'Course I'm not saying I wouldn't love more, more, more myself - but seriously Bruce Timm could pop out of the DVDs and eat dinner with you and people would complain that he didn't wear a tux or something.

Hero Supreme

03-03-2005, 11:10 AM

People complain too much for what they don't have and it just makes it harder for all of us to be happy with what we get because believe me, we could always have less. 'Course I'm not saying I wouldn't love more, more, more myself - but seriously Bruce Timm could pop out of the DVDs and eat dinner with you and people would complain that he didn't wear a tux or something.

look. i agree that overall people are fairly spoiled and they do like to complain and they may never be completely satisfied. having said that, i can hardly say that a company selling me a product qualifies as "spoiling" me. it seems that a lot of people have money burning holes in their pockets, which they are more than willing to spend on WB DVDs. it is frustrating when the products they are willing to spend their money on are non-existent or sub-standard. it would be unreasonable to expect more from WHV for the same price as some other DVD TV release, but when other studios, such as FOX, give me more for my money, i feel some right, if not an obligation, to complain. when DVDs are free, i will stop complaining. or when WB stops making a profit and releases DVDs for their love of the consumer, and the media, i will cut them some slack. but until then...

and if B.T. popped out of my DVD, it would be nice if at least he dressed up for the occasion. :D

warmachine04

03-03-2005, 07:53 PM

Check out the possible artwork of the upcoming Superfriends DVD coming in May.:D

http://www.dvdanswers.com/images/screenshots/superfriendsseas2r1art.jpg

adoptedBatpuppy

03-03-2005, 08:17 PM

Wow! That looks really cool! I hope this is the actual picture for the dvd set! :D

Silly McGooses

03-04-2005, 03:20 PM

Check out the possible artwork of the upcoming Superfriends DVD coming in May.:D

http://www.dvdanswers.com/images/screenshots/superfriendsseas2r1art.jpg
same thing happened to me when I tried to post a DVD answers photo on my livejourna; after a few hours, that popped up. Here's another place you can see it. http://www.dvdtoons.com/news/745

Bird Boy

03-04-2005, 03:38 PM

same thing happened to me when I tried to post a DVD answers photo on my livejourna; after a few hours, that popped up. Here's another place you can see it. http://www.dvdtoons.com/news/745

Or you could just see it on Toon Zone's newspage here (http://news.toonzone.net/article.php?ID=1869).

Yes I feel the need to make mention of TZN when I can. Mainly cause it's the newspage for this website, but also cause it's so spiffy. :D

-BB

Bird Boy

03-06-2005, 04:00 PM

Cover art updated and back cover added to 'The Batman' (http://news.toonzone.net/article.php?ID=1908) release. Case was also changed from a snapper to amaray--no change on Teen Titans, unfortunantly...

-BB

Meow

03-06-2005, 09:59 PM

maxnugget

03-06-2005, 11:09 PM

His finger looks broken...

Good. :p

thanos28542

03-07-2005, 10:25 AM

This is pissing me off! We're getting Superfriends & The Batman on DVD & no Supes? C'mon now, I doubt hardly anyone is really looking forward to 3 freakin episodes of The Batman! By RAO, WB better be coming out w/STAS Vol II this summer!:mad:

Harley_Quinn

03-07-2005, 11:48 AM

I hope so, I also wouldn't mind WB finishing off seaon 1 of JL with a couple more releases

Bird Boy

03-07-2005, 01:54 PM

If WB follows their current track, we'll see STAS Vol. 2 with BTAS Vol. 4 (BTAS Vol.1 was paired with Superfriends, Vol. 2 with STAS, and now Vol. 3 with Superfriends).

-BB

Joker1238

03-07-2005, 03:16 PM

any word When or IF Wild Cards will be out on DVD.

Being a big Joker fan, that was his best show on JL,(It was way better than Injustice for all, but got that one with the Bold and the Brave.)

Silly McGooses

03-07-2005, 03:36 PM

I'm hoping to get Wild Cards sometime, too, because I never once saw it:crying: .
I might buy the Batman if I can find it for $9.99 or under.

Joker1238

03-07-2005, 03:41 PM

It was pretty good, Joker had some great lines, And the ended I cried, Not for the heros, Because I was sad of what happend to the Joker. After seeing it, I was in Shock.

Of couse I was sad Joker died in ROTJ, but he was a great death.
Here is hoping for Wild Cards to come out soon,

Besides Wild Cards, What other JL shows are NOT on DVD?

Hero Supreme

03-07-2005, 03:57 PM

Besides Wild Cards, What other JL shows are NOT on DVD?
there are only a handful ON dvd. secret origins, in blackest night, the enemy below, paradise lost, war world, brave and the bold, injustice for all, starcrossed, initiation, hawk and dove, and kid stuff. none of the others have been released.

BonyT

03-08-2005, 10:05 AM

I might buy the Batman if I can find it for $9.99 or under.You can pre-order it right now from DeepDiscountDVD for $9.00 w/ free shipping:
http://www.deepdiscountdvd.com/search.cfm?searchstart=26&searchby=Title&keywords=the%20batman&ordering=title&price=0&searchdecade=0&searchrating=0&genre=0

But dang, that's still $3.00/ep. Not even Columbia House was that high on their BTAS DVD set.

thanos28542

03-08-2005, 04:53 PM

Joker1238

03-08-2005, 05:00 PM

So it could be Wild Cards are on the one disc thing? some were? I dont relly think so, I do need a title of the DVD if it is out lol.

Douglas Fir

03-08-2005, 06:03 PM

Pretty much the entire 1st season of JL is out on DVD except for the 3 part finale "The Savage time" where they go back in time to WWII & fight Vandal Savage with the help of Sgt Rock & Easy Co , the Blackhawks & Steve Trevor. Man, what a great 3 parter!
Oooohhhhh I never saw those episodes... I didn't even now they'd done a WWII episode... with Sgt Rock and Steve Trevor no less - awesome!!!

We really do need box sets of JL... and soon!!!

Hero Supreme

03-08-2005, 06:36 PM

Pretty much the entire 1st season of JL is out on DVD except for the 3 part finale "The Savage time" where they go back in time to WWII & fight Vandal Savage with the help of Sgt Rock & Easy Co , the Blackhawks & Steve Trevor. Man, what a great 3 parter!
well, there is also a knight in shadows, fury, legends, and metamorphosis all STILL unreleased from season 1. but who's keeping track? :D

NiteWing73

03-09-2005, 03:52 PM

Hi
I'm new to the forum and I have a question for you all.

I have the 5 volumes of the Justice League cartoon and i was wondering if they are going to release the first two seasons with season sets or if they will continue the individual releases?

I check this site regularly but i haven't heard anything.
Does anyone know ??

I'm also curious why they didn't do what they are planning on doing for Teen Titans with JLU ...considering there are only 13 episodes in season one of JLU i don't know why they didn't do 6 and 7 episodes discs..

GregX

03-09-2005, 03:55 PM

I am sure that it will eventually happen. Just not yet. Maybe when Batman and Superman TAS are all released we'll get JL and Batman Beyond.

Not sure when, but I'm confident we will get them.

Joker1238

03-09-2005, 04:34 PM

All I want is Wild Cards lol. Yeah I hoping, lol. Sole reason of couse this is Jokers last showing, or was it on Satic Shock>? Well I hope it comes, IF its JL, I think they have 10 esp on DVD, as there is about 27 or so shows.

Harley_Quinn

03-10-2005, 10:15 AM

I really wish they would at least finish the 1st season off with the single DVD releases. Box sets, I think for JL and JLU it way to far off.

AndyD2

03-10-2005, 10:57 AM

The first season of JL will be out in a box set next year 2006, based on info from Warner Brothers home video.:)

Bird Boy

03-10-2005, 11:27 AM

The first season of JL will be out in a box set next year 2006, based on info from Warner Brothers home video.:)

Uh...what info.

-BB

konakazi

03-10-2005, 11:36 AM

Bird Boy

03-10-2005, 12:07 PM

Seeing as how Justice League is still on the air, I find it improbable that we will start seeing full season box sets until it's run is over.

Warner Bros. already has it's hands full release TBAS 1 & 2, as well as Superman's box sets.

If they continue in that vein, they'll release the rest of those series, eventually the New Adventures, and then probably Batman Beyond.

I was thinking about this the other day and how it's going to work out...

One more volume of BTAS after Vol. 3, likely to come out with Season 2 of STAS.
Then another volume of STAS and possibly Superfriends.
Then STAS will be over with, so Batman Beyond/Superfriends
Once Superfriends or Batman Beyond ends, we'll get JL.

That's how I can see it working, anyway. This should really be in the DVD thread...

...and away we go. Yay for merger.

-BB

thanos28542

03-10-2005, 12:58 PM

well, there is also a knight in shadows, fury, legends, and metamorphosis all STILL unreleased from season 1. but who's keeping track? :D

DOH! I forgot those were season 1 episodes also! Thanks to JLU I keep thinking there were only 13 episodes in JL-1 when in fact w/all the multi-parters it was 26 episodes long. I wonder if it's worth just buying a DVD recorder & recording all the episodes or just wait for the season boxsets to come out on DVD?

Bird Boy

03-10-2005, 01:28 PM

I wonder if it's worth just buying a DVD recorder & recording all the episodes or just wait for the season boxsets to come out on DVD?

The DVDs will be probably be out by the time JL actually starts airing again...:p

-BB

EJill34

03-10-2005, 03:15 PM

The first season of JL will be out in a box set next year 2006, based on info from Warner Brothers home video.:)If that's true--and I think that it might be--my level of elation will be in a league of its own. But can you please tell us where you got this information?

EDIT: WB is having their annual Home Theatre Forum chat around the end of the month, so hopefully someone will ask if Justice League and Batman Beyond will be released in box sets in the near future.

Mynd Hed

03-10-2005, 09:50 PM

The first season of JL will be out in a box set next year 2006, based on info from Warner Brothers home video.:)

Oh, I must have missed that memo since I didn't get the intrarectal elective surgery installing a fax machine in my colon so that I can pull information directly from my... you know, it's just easier to say that you don't know what you're talking about.[/Brianism]

Crow

03-11-2005, 09:51 AM

The first season of JL will be out in a box set next year 2006, based on info from Warner Brothers home video.:)
When will they get their arses into gear and release the existing sets in Region 4? And 2, etc for that matter.

The original Care Bears is something I can get on DVD instead of Superman: TAS!

A.J

03-11-2005, 10:20 AM

The first season of JL will be out in a box set next year 2006, based on info from Warner Brothers home video.:)
What are you talking about? Where did u get that info from? :confused:

Funkatron

03-15-2005, 07:27 AM

For those who haven't gotten any of the Volumes yet:

Batman Volumes 1 & 2 (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00069DMC8/qid=1110889448/sr=1-4/ref=sr_1_4/103-2616254-9433417?v=glance&s=dvd)
Batman Volumes 1, 2 and 3 (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0007XG4NM/qid=1110889448/sr=1-5/ref=sr_1_5/103-2616254-9433417?v=glance&s=dvd) (Comes out same day as Volume 3)

Fone Bone

03-15-2005, 09:19 AM

Robin

03-15-2005, 10:02 AM

If that's true--and I think that it might be--my level of elation will be in a league of its own. But can you please tell us where you got this information?

EDIT: WB is having their annual Home Theatre Forum chat around the end of the month, so hopefully someone will ask if Justice League and Batman Beyond will be released in box sets in the near future.I think it's pretty easy to predict that once Superman is done, both Batman Beyond and Justice League would be next on the list. While I do wish he would claim his source, I think he might just be guessing. I hope that we can get something official from this chat you mentioned. Maybe some posters from this forum can do their best to make it to the chat, which I heard is being held on March 29th. Does anyone have a confirmation on that, at least?

warmachine04

03-15-2005, 10:37 AM

I just hop that Justice League Season 2 comes out early next year.:D

EJill34

03-16-2005, 10:19 AM

Don't forget Static Shock and Zeta Project. I know they are a LOOOONG way off but I would like WHV to know people are interested in them.I'd like to see an SS box set, but the single discs are a good way to go for now. I'm not really anticipating TZP, but I'd probably pick it up if it came out.

I hope that we can get something official from this chat you mentioned. Maybe some posters from this forum can do their best to make it to the chat, which I heard is being held on March 29th. Does anyone have a confirmation on that, at least?They just confirmed that March 29th is the new date. Unfortunately, I'll be away on some business and won't be able to make it. Can anyone here make it? I think the only burning questions we have right now are (listed from highest priority to lowest):

When can we expect Justice League/Justice League Unlimited and Batman Beyond box sets?

What is Batman: The Animated Series - The Collector's Edition and what can we expect from it?

Any plans for Teen Titans, Static Shock or The Zeta Project in box sets?

When can we expect further volumes of S:TAS?

When can we expect B:TAS Vol. 4? (kind of obvious, but its good to ask anyway)

DisneyBoy

03-16-2005, 11:03 AM

Let's add to the bottom of that list...

Will the Gotham Girls webisodes be included in the last Batman: The Animated Series Boxsets?

and

Will the TMS animated sequences from the Sega CD Adventures of Batman and Robin video game be included on one of the Batman: The Animated Series boxsets?

johnnybvo

03-16-2005, 11:05 AM

To be honest, I would just be happy if I have Batman Beyond and JL/JLU on dvd (or at least being released in boxset form) by 2010. I'm patient like that.

Robin

03-16-2005, 04:43 PM

I think it'd be a good idea to get a list of users here who could possibly attend the chat. I am going to try and I already know what I'm going to ask. I'm gonna see if I can squeeze in more than one question, too, at a single time. Even if none of us can make, I know there are alot of users at Home Theatre who want to know what WB is doing with JL/JLU and Batman Beyond.

Funkatron

03-16-2005, 09:50 PM

When and what site/link/irc channel?? If I'm off, I could try and represent.

Simpler Simon

03-16-2005, 09:59 PM

When can we expect Justice League/Justice League Unlimited and Batman Beyond box sets?

What is Batman: The Animated Series - The Collector's Edition and what can we expect from it?

Any plans for Teen Titans, Static Shock or The Zeta Project in box sets?

When can we expect further volumes of S:TAS?

When can we expect B:TAS Vol. 4? (kind of obvious, but its good to ask anyway)
I'd probably only pepper them with the first two...if we get them too riled about Teen Titans sets, they might drop the 6 eps/disc pattern and go back to a crummy 4 or 3.

GL2k2

03-17-2005, 04:13 AM

JUSTICE LEAGUE Volume 1

Same packaging design as "Looney Tunes: The Golden Collection" or "Batman: The Animated Series"
Full Screen/Widescreen option
Easter Eggs include some deleted scenes or animatics and artwork & designs.
4 disc set

DISC 1
Justice League Episode 1, 2, 3 SECRET ORIGINS:
voice commentary from Bruce Timm, directors and writers
Trailers/tv spots, chapter stops, orignal artowrk, character designs, unreleased pilot
Option to play with "Previously On..." scenes or not
Justice League history featurette
Martian Manhunter history featurette

DISC 2
JL Episode 4, 5 IN BLACKEST NIGHT:
voice commentary from Bruce Timm, directors and writers
Trailers/tv spots, chapter stops, original artwork, character designs
Option to play with "Previously On..." scenes or not
Green Lantern history featurette

JL Episode 6, 7 THE ENEMY BELOW:
voice commentary from Bruce Timm, directors and writers
Trailers/tv spots, chapter stops, original artwork, character designs
Option to play with "Previously On..." scenes or not
Aquaman history featurette

DISC 3

JL Episode 8, 9 INJUSTICE FOR ALL:
voice commentary from Bruce Timm, directors and writers
Trailers/tv spots, chapter stops, original artwork, character designs
Option to play with "Previously On..." scenes or not
Injustice Gang history featurette

JL Episode 10, 11 PARADISE LOST:
voice commentary from Bruce Timm, directors and writers
Trailers/tv spots, chapter stops, original artwork, character designs
Option to play with "Previously On..." scenes or not
Wonder Woman history featurette

DISC 4

JL Episode 12, 13 WAR WORLD:
voice commentary from Bruce Timm, directors and writers
Trailers/tv spots, chapter stops, original artwork, character designs
Option to play with "Previously On..." scenes or not
Mongul history featurette

JL Episode 14, 15 THE BRAVE AND THE BOLD:
voice commentary from Bruce Timm, directors and writers
Trailers/tv spots, chapter stops, original artwork, character designs
Option to play with "Previously On..." scenes or not
The Flash history featurette
Gorilla Grodd history featurette

That will be all to please me. And I can do with out the commentaries. I mean, apologizes for "War World" is unnecessary.;)

Crow

03-17-2005, 06:09 AM

About this chat session:

World's Finest should start putting together a list of questions pertinent to WHV's treatment to DCAU DVDs. They need to be succint, worth-asking and 'heard' above all the noise you usually get in a chatroom. The number of questions should also be decided early on. Obviously fifty questions asking about commentaries for fifty separate episodes that have a chance to get on DVD would get in the way of more worthwhile tidbits such as the release dates for DCAU DVDs OUTSIDE AMERICA. Amazing Spidey would agree I think.

Maybe get members to add questions to the list, and get the WF brains trust to make up a shortlist.

Thers's two worthwhile arguments for leaving our questions to a pre-determined few who read off a list; and everybody in this forum getting into this chatroom using whatever means possible.

I suggest we make the best of this chance that we have. We need information from WHV and there's also a possibility we can vouch for the DCAU getting extra treatment.

The Super Mario Brothers Super Show benefitted from this, didn't it???

Duke

03-17-2005, 08:28 AM

The Super Mario Brothers Super Show benefitted from this, didn't it???
It got 1 Volume...

JLAgent

03-17-2005, 06:06 PM

GL2k2-

i like your 'rundown' for JUSTICE LEAGUE Volume 1 but
are the trailers/tv spots really necessary?? i don't get that...

i WOULD appreciate chapter stops, original artwork, character designs
and most of the featurettes you proposed tho'. :D

About SECRET ORIGINS- what unreleased pilot??

Fone Bone

03-17-2005, 06:19 PM

Two hour long episodes per disc is worthless. We could just buy the single discs if we wanted that.

Disc 1 should be Secret Origins, In Blackest Night and The Enemy Below.

Disc 2 should be Injustice For All, Paradise Lost, and War World

Disc 3 should be The Brave and the Bold, Fury and Legends

Disc 4 should be A Knight in Shadows, Metamorphosis and The Savage Time.

I don't know or really care about extras. Maybe commetaries on Injustice For All and The Savage Time. It doesn't really matter to me. I just want the entire season in one set with more than friggin three or four episodes per disc.

Season 2 could go:

Disc 1: Twilight, Tabula Rasa, Only a Dream.

Disc 2: Maid of Honor, Hearts and Minds, A Better World

Disc 3: The Terror Beyond, Eclipsed, Hereafter, Comfort and Joy

Disc 4: Secret Society, Wild Cards, Starcrossed.

I know Comfort and Joy should go between Secret Society and Wild Cards in production order but seven episodes each in the last two discs would insure good resolution on both discs.

Duke

03-17-2005, 07:37 PM

i like your 'rundown' for JUSTICE LEAGUE Volume 1 but
are the trailers/tv spots really necessary?? i don't get that...While normally I'd say yes, the Toonami promos for JL weren't all that high quality (not like other series), so I'd say no. Well, the Comic Book and the "5 Days a Week" promos were cool.

About SECRET ORIGINS- what unreleased pilot??I'm assuming the pilot that's available on the Paradise Lost DVD.

Robin

03-18-2005, 08:26 AM

The info page on the chat is here:

http://hometheaterforum.com/files/whvchat.html

It has a link to the chat room. When I know if I can attend, I plan to sign up and do what I can to make an appearance. I know there are usually a few familiar faces who try to make the chat. There are always people talking about the DC DVDs, so we should be safe regardless.

ef50515

03-21-2005, 08:48 AM

"Superman: The Animated Series - Plans revealed for 2nd and 3rd volumes of Superman: TAS"
http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/newsitem.cfm?NewsID=3147

Fans of the show didn't walk, but flew to stores to pick up the release this past January of Superman: The Animated Series - Volume 1 (http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/releaseinfo.cfm?ReleaseID=4069) on DVD, and enjoyed it so much that they want to know when they'll get more. Well, our industry sources have provided a possible answer.

With the long-awaited new feature film, Superman Returns, being aimed at a June 2006 theatrical debut, the folks at Warner want to spend the next year carefully setting up tie-ins that will help boost the awareness of this film. Toward that end, they've set up a tentative schedule that shows a Superman: The Animated Series - Volume 2 release in the Christmas 2005 timeframe, probably in December. And then Superman: The Animated Series - Volume 3 would hit in June 2006, just in time to tie in with the film.Superman: TAS Vol.2 - December 2005
Superman: TAS Vol.3 - June 2006

Funkatron

03-21-2005, 09:20 AM

"Superman: The Animated Series - Plans revealed for 2nd and 3rd volumes of Superman: TAS"
http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/newsitem.cfm?NewsID=3147

Superman: TAS Vol.2 - December 2005
Superman: TAS Vol.3 - June 2006
Ahh. A bit long on the wait. Sigh.

Bobbywoodhogan

03-21-2005, 09:52 AM

While normally I'd say yes, the Toonami promos for JL weren't all that high quality (not like other series), so I'd say no. Well, the Comic Book and the "5 Days a Week" promos were cool.

I'm assuming the pilot that's available on the Paradise Lost DVD.
What pilot on the paradise lost DVD?

Simpler Simon

03-21-2005, 09:56 AM

Ahh. A bit long on the wait. Sigh.
I wonder if we're going to get vol. 4 of TNBA released alongside STAS vol. 2 or before it.

And if before it, will they release more superfriends? Or maybe JL or BB?

Bobbywoodhogan

03-21-2005, 10:16 AM

I just watched that JL Pilot on the Paradise Lost DVD and wow! that was cool. Some of it was footage from other shows "The Call, Worlds Finest, Speed Demons, etc" but it was still cool it was like the JL in the Batman Beyond time. God it was great :)

Br'er Lappin

03-21-2005, 11:22 AM

Bird Boy

03-21-2005, 11:44 AM

I just watched "The Laughing Fish" last night and noticed a weird audio defect towards the end of the opening theme, as the camera pans up the building towards Batman. The theme plays like normal but there's a few seconds of "thumping" behind it. Luckily, it's the only place it occurs.

Does anyone else have this problem or do I have a defective disc?

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks!

If it's what I'm thinking of, then my disc has it too...though it was right at the beginning, not the end. There's what sounds like the closing to what I can only call the "WB sound"--but there's nothing there but blackness. It's weird, I don't know what it's from...

-BB

Duke

03-21-2005, 12:24 PM

What pilot on the paradise lost DVD?
It's an Easter Egg. I dunno where to find it (since I don't own the DVD), but somebody here has it.

Bird Boy

03-21-2005, 12:33 PM

It's an Easter Egg. I dunno where to find it (since I don't own the DVD), but somebody here has it.

It's on this (http://wf.toonzone.net/WF/justiceleague/episodes/testfootage/00.jpg) menu. I completely forgot about that even being on there...

Bobbywoodhogan

03-21-2005, 12:52 PM

It's on this (http://wf.toonzone.net/WF/justiceleague/episodes/testfootage/00.jpg) menu. I completely forgot about that even being on there...
I already found it thanks but i live in the UK and we didn't gt the Watchtower option its just a pic of Batman and when you click to the right his head lights up.

adoptedBatpuppy

03-21-2005, 02:36 PM

Wow, that seems like a long wait for Superman Vol. 2! But I'm glad it's finally happenning.

EJill34

03-21-2005, 03:22 PM

Wow, they're really spreading S:TAS out. Hopefully that means we'll get BB or JL box sets in the interim.

Toddman

03-21-2005, 03:45 PM

Wow, they're really spreading S:TAS out. Hopefully that means we'll get BB or JL box sets in the interim.
That would be nice, but doesn't it now seem like the DC "Season sets" DVDs are only being released every six months? So I wouldn't be surprised if the next few looked like this:

Summer 04 - BTAS Vol. 1 & Superfriends Vol. 1

Winter 04/05 - BTAS Vol. 2 & STAS Vol. 1

Summer 05 - BTAS Vol. 3 & Superfriends Vol. 2

Winter 05/06 - BTAS Vol. 4 & STAS Vol. 2

Summer 06 - STAS Vol. 3 & Superfriends Vol. 3

After that, maybe we'll finally see sets for BB or JL.

Toddman

Dogbert

03-21-2005, 04:21 PM

That would be nice, but doesn't it now seem like the DC "Season sets" DVDs are only being released every six months? So I wouldn't be surprised if the next few looked like this:

Summer 04 - BTAS Vol. 1 & Superfriends Vol. 1

Winter 04/05 - BTAS Vol. 2 & STAS Vol. 1

Summer 05 - BTAS Vol. 3 & Superfriends Vol. 2

Winter 05/06 - BTAS Vol. 4 & STAS Vol. 2

Summer 06 - STAS Vol. 3 & Superfriends Vol. 3I think it's going to be more than just twice a year. The gap between the first and second wave may have been larger because the first wave was to test the audience to see if the sets would sell. Now that they know they do, I think things will speed up a little. Here's my prediction:

7/06/2004 - BTAS Vol. 1 & Superfriends Vol. 1

1/25/2005 - BTAS Vol. 2 & STAS Vol. 1

5/24/2005 - BTAS Vol. 3 & Superfriends Vol. 2

9/27/2005 - BTAS Vol. 4 & STAS Vol. 2

1/24/2006 - Superfriends Vol. 3 & BB or JL Vol. 1

5/23/2006 - STAS Vol. 3 & BB or JL Vol. 2

I know the sources say December, but I'm betting on an every four months schedule - just a gut feeling I have. If they do go with December, I think they're more likely to speed up to 8/05 & 12/05 instead of just 12/05. They were going to give us a December release last year, but they pushed it back because there were too many other releases that week. So they might make up for that with four releases in 2005.

One other thing I'd like to comment on about future DCAU DVDs... I think Batman Beyond and Justice League are the most likely to receive DVD sets. TT is getting two volume releases for each season and Zeta simply isn't going to happen anytime soon. JLU is getting single disc releases; crappy ones, but still being released. BB & JL seem like the most likely to me...

EJill34

03-21-2005, 04:44 PM

I'd bet on BB as the series to replace B:TAS once Volume 4 comes out later this year due to several cryptic comments I've read.

bobspoland

03-21-2005, 05:05 PM

only if they would bring out a JL dvd box set i would buy that. going too buy the superman one. love it :)

Fone Bone

03-21-2005, 05:07 PM

DECEMBER? I've tried to be patient, honest but this is really too much. If we have to wait until AFTER summer 2006 to get JL/JLU and BB I am going to be very upset.

William C. Maune

03-21-2005, 05:12 PM

DECEMBER? I've tried to be patient, honest but this is really too much. If we have to wait until AFTER summer 2006 to get JL/JLU and BB I am going to be very upset.

People wanted an announcement of the plans for future releases rather than just a new announcement of the next each time a couple boxes are released. At least we now know all of Superman will be released on DVD. It'll be in our hands eventually.

EJill34

03-21-2005, 05:19 PM

DECEMBER? I've tried to be patient, honest but this is really too much. If we have to wait until AFTER summer 2006 to get JL/JLU and BB I am going to be very upset.
You only have to wait about a week to see if WHV is ready to reveal their plans for JL/JLU and BB, since the WB chat is on the 29th.

Fone Bone

03-21-2005, 05:21 PM

People wanted an announcement of the plans for future releases rather than just a new announcement of the next each time a couple boxes are released. At least we now know all of Superman will be released on DVD. It'll be in our hands eventually.It galls me that I have to wait until NEXT summer to have Legacy on DVD. IF they were to release Batman Beyond and Justice League in the meantime I'd be fine with it but I've got a horrible feeling those won't be released until AFTER BTAS and STAS are all released.

And I didn't just want an announcement of when it would hit DVD I wanted it to come out in a reasonable time. The lack of extras on the releases sure as heck points to them being able to release them sooner rather than later. At least when we had to wait for a year at a time for The Simpson we knew it was because they were trying to make the set as good as possible. Here they are just trying to raise awareness for a movie that has nothing to do with STAS.

Stu

03-21-2005, 05:38 PM

And I didn't just want an announcement of when it would hit DVD I wanted it to come out in a reasonable time. The lack of extras on the releases sure as heck points to them being able to release them sooner rather than later. At least when we had to wait for a year at a time for The Simpson we knew it was because they were trying to make the set as good as possible. Here they are just trying to raise awareness for a movie that has nothing to do with STAS.

Look on the bright side -- you probably won't have to pay to see Bryan Singer butcher Richard Donner's Superman movie. :p

:(

William C. Maune

03-21-2005, 05:49 PM

And I didn't just want an announcement of when it would hit DVD I wanted it to come out in a reasonable time. The lack of extras on the releases sure as heck points to them being able to release them sooner rather than later.

The extras aren't the only determining factor though. Based on sales data so far, they may have determined that the market can only support releases this often. To be viable the releases have to sell well enough with Joe Consumer as well as the more hardcore fans.

Fone Bone

03-21-2005, 10:53 PM

The extras aren't the only determining factor though. Based on sales data so far, they may have determined that the market can only support releases this often. To be viable the releases have to sell well enough with Joe Consumer as well as the more hardcore fans.But according to the Amazon sale it sold REALLY well.

I have to ask William: Are you playing Devil's Advocate (which is something I can completely respect) or are you actually satisfied with these releases (which I personally consider needlessly drawn out)?

William C. Maune

03-22-2005, 02:45 AM

But according to the Amazon sale it sold REALLY well.

However, that is only one retailer and while it could also be an indication of how well it sold at other websites, it is probably less of an indicator when it comes to brick and mortar stores.

I have to ask William: Are you playing Devil's Advocate (which is something I can completely respect) or are you actually satisfied with these releases (which I personally consider needlessly drawn out)?

Partially both, it's a combination of things. In most situations I think there are a number of things people (including myself) don't consider when coming to a conclusion. I don't know what all of those questions are, or what the answers are, but whether it be market forces, the amount Bruce Timm has to say in commentaries, or etc., I think we should be looking for those other things to consider and including them in the analysis. Coming from another angle, no matter what the news is, no matter how good it is, I see a lot of negativity and part of it is an attempt to get folks to also look at the good that is happening.

As for being satisfied with the releases, I probably wouldn't be completely satisfied unless they said "Criterion Collection" on the side. However, I am happy with the releases. They are releasing all the episodes, a decent number in each set, with some extras, in nice boxes. They could possibly release them faster, but unless DCAU stuff is all somone buys, that is a lot of stuff to watch. Plus, unlike, say, Gargoyles, where only one set has been released, I know more is coming. Or unlike, say, Spider-man:TAS (1994), I'm actually getting all the episodes (for a better price in a better box). Or unlike, say, Freakazoid, the series is actually coming to DVD. Thus, with the DCAU, I'm satisfied so far. It may not be the fastest release, but now that a few boxes are out I assume WBHV has a good gauge on how these sell. If it would be more profitable to release them faster I bet they would. If they need a couple extra months between releases to enhance profitability, that is fine with me because if they aren't profitable then we won't be getting anything.

Bird Boy

03-22-2005, 08:31 PM

Just a random note--I picked up the TT: Divide and Conquer DVD for $7.50 at Best Buy today (part of the 2 for $15 deal) and the back of it now says "Standard Version", as opposed to the misprinted first release which had "Widescreen."

Wonder if they'll re-release 'Starcrossed' now without the soundtrack taunt on the back...

-BB

John Cage

03-22-2005, 10:38 PM

I don't know or really care about extras. Maybe commetaries on Injustice For All and The Savage Time.
I was actually thinking about this today. I'd love it if they did commentary on Injustice for All with Mark Hamill and Clancy Brown. That'd be a perfect opportunity to get the two chatting about their parts. The regular commentaries are great (and I'd like more of them!!!), but commentary by cast members would be awfully swell.

Have a good day then.
John Cage
(Mystery Man)

Simpler Simon

03-23-2005, 10:57 AM

The regular commentaries are great (and I'd like more of them!!!), but commentary by cast members would be awfully swell.

Still waiting for Conroy to show up on the BTAS sets!

What would absolutely kill would be to get all 7 of the league members together on the secret origins commentary or something...7's way too many people to fit in a track, but just to hear all of them would rock.

Robin

03-23-2005, 01:53 PM

I am happy with the releases. They are releasing all the episodes, a decent number in each set, with some extras, in nice boxes. They could possibly release them faster, but unless DCAU stuff is all somone buys, that is a lot of stuff to watch. Plus, unlike, say, Gargoyles, where only one set has been released, I know more is coming. Or unlike, say, Spider-man:TAS (1994), I'm actually getting all the episodes (for a better price in a better box). Or unlike, say, Freakazoid, the series is actually coming to DVD. Thus, with the DCAU, I'm satisfied so far. It may not be the fastest release, but now that a few boxes are out I assume WBHV has a good gauge on how these sell. If it would be more profitable to release them faster I bet they would. If they need a couple extra months between releases to enhance profitability, that is fine with me because if they aren't profitable then we won't be getting anything.I don't think I could have said it better. I have been enjoying these Batman DVDs even if they aren't filled with hours upon hours of extras. In the end, what I want is the episodes themselves. I have piles of magazine articles, books, etc, that go into detail about these shows, so I can live with the short featurettes. Besides, the only real extra worth getting, the pilot promo, was included on the first release! The featurettes and the odd commentary are nice little additions, but it's all about the episodes in the end, and that is what we're getting. If WHV included nothing but extras and no episodes, then I could see the justification in all the endless complaints here.

And we get these DVDs in nice looking box sets, too.

Fone Bone

03-23-2005, 05:41 PM

I don't think I could have said it better. I have been enjoying these Batman DVDs even if they aren't filled with hours upon hours of extras. In the end, what I want is the episodes themselves. I have piles of magazine articles, books, etc, that go into detail about these shows, so I can live with the short featurettes. Besides, the only real extra worth getting, the pilot promo, was included on the first release! The featurettes and the odd commentary are nice little additions, but it's all about the episodes in the end, and that is what we're getting. If WHV included nothing but extras and no episodes, then I could see the justification in all the endless complaints here.

And we get these DVDs in nice looking box sets, too.I'm of two minds about this. On the one hand I don't REALLY care all that much about extras. The pilot film and Gotham Girls would be enough to satisfy me. On the other hand these sets are taking SO long to come out. If they AREN'T loading 'em with special features there is really NO reason it should take this long. I don't care if I will get them "eventually" I want them in my hands NOW NOW NOW. Summer of 2006? I'll be OLD by then.:(

Bird Boy

03-23-2005, 05:47 PM

I'm of two minds about this. On the one hand I don't REALLY care all that much about extras. The pilot film and Gotham Girls would be enough to satisfy me. On the other hand these sets are taking SO long to come out. If they AREN'T loading 'em with special features there is really NO reason it should take this long. I don't care if I will get them "eventually" I want them in my hands NOW NOW NOW. Summer of 2006? I'll be OLD by then.:(

Well it's not like the DVDs just magically shoot out of a DVD maker. Development on the menus and packaging takes about three or four months before they reach completion. And then you have production on them and the special features--it takes about six or seven months before it's completed.

They certainly sped up BTAS Vol. 3's release--and we're getting one less commentary and fewer special features because of it.

Production takes time and we have to wait. There's nothing we can do other than wait, so there's no use in complaining about it when it's not going to speed any things up. They know we want it, but they also want the most money out of them and spacing them out to tie in with movies will garner more sales.

-BB

Fone Bone

03-23-2005, 05:48 PM

Well it's not like the DVDs just magically shoot out of a DVD maker. Development on the menus and packaging takes about three or four months before they reach completion. And then you have production on them and the special features--it takes about six or seven months before it's completed.

They certainly sped up BTAS Vol. 3's release--and we're getting one less commentary and fewer special features because of it.

Production takes time and we have to wait. There's nothing we can do other than wait, so there's no use in complaining about it when it's not going to speed any things up. They know we want it, but they also want the most money out of them and spacing them out to tie in with movies will garner more sales.

-BBBut complaining makes me feel better. And me feeling better makes me feel better too.

Wanted

03-23-2005, 06:22 PM

Ah. My two cents:

Well, since DC has less animated series then, say, Hanna-Barbera, WHV is going to want to stretch it out as much as they can. Whereas Hanna-Barbera gets eight (if you count Tom and Jerry) sets a year, DC gets four. I think this is a reasonable marketing move. It also gives me time to get my ducks in a row.

But, not until I get a real job I will be able to buy all of these sets.

Br'er Lappin

03-23-2005, 06:47 PM

Br'er Lappin

03-23-2005, 06:48 PM

If it's what I'm thinking of, then my disc has it too...though it was right at the beginning, not the end. There's what sounds like the closing to what I can only call the "WB sound"--but there's nothing there but blackness. It's weird, I don't know what it's from...

-BB

Thanks for your reply, Bird Boy. Glad to know I'm not alone!

Fone Bone

03-23-2005, 08:00 PM

Welcome Br'er Lappin!

You may be satisfied with just the pilot and Gotham Girls, but wouldn't be wicked awesome if they included the Crossover episodes from Static and Zeta as well?Heck no! I want Static Shock and Zeta Project season sets!;)

James Harvey

03-23-2005, 08:08 PM

If everyone here really hopes to make their voice heard, then go to the WHV Chat at Home Theater Forum (http://www.hometheaterforum.com) on Tuesday and tell the reps! These chats have always been great oppurtunities to find out what they have in story for future DVD releases.

Personally, I want to know why they're giving Justice League Unlimited just three episodes a disc (well, I have an idea...), but this is a great time to find out more!

EJill34

03-23-2005, 08:19 PM

If everyone here really hopes to make their voice heard, then go to the WHV Chat at Home Theater Forum (http://www.hometheaterforum.com/) on Monday and tell the reps! These chats have always been great oppurtunities to find out what they have in story for future DVD releases.
Not to be completely anal (or maybe I'm just wrong), but isn't the chat on Tuesday? If they've changed it I'll jump for joy, becuase I'll able to attend. If its still on Tuesday, well, I can still read the trasncript.

Personally, I want to know why they're giving Justice League Unlimited just three episodes a disc (well, I have an idea...), but this is a great time to find out more!
I actually want to know if they'll package the 4-part JLU finale as a DVD (in widescreen, of course) and release it a few months after its airdate, like they did with "Starcrossed."

James Harvey

03-23-2005, 08:33 PM

Not to be completely anal (or maybe I'm just wrong), but isn't the chat on Tuesday? If they've changed it I'll jump for joy, becuase I'll able to attend. If its still on Tuesday, well, I can still read the trasncript.It has been moved to Tuesday! Mistake corrected!

I actually want to know if they'll package the 4-part JLU finale as a DVD (in widescreen, of course) and release it a few months after its airdate, like they did with "Starcrossed."Well..."Starcrossed The Movie" did sell just fine...

There are more Justice League Unlimited DVDs coming out this year, and I have every reason to believe this is the same pattern set by their Batman: The Animated Series releases a few years ago. In fact, alot of what has been said in here, in terms of speculation has been close, some even spot on. If you've been wondering why I haven't been posting that much...well...I've been afraid of letting things slip. I've gotten into enough trouble already! Still, I can't believe WHV let slip the plans for the next two Superman: The Animated Series plans. If that's any indiciation, hopefully WHV will let us know about some of the other shows we've been waiting for in next week's chat.

EJill34

03-23-2005, 08:37 PM

It has been moved to Tuesday! Mistake corrected!
Ah, you kinda got my hopes up for a second, but I'll still, uhm, eat up the transcript?

Well..."Starcrossed The Movie" did sell just fine...
Heh. It sounds like you're implying something unholy here. A quality JLU DVD? As if.

There are more Justice League Unlimited DVDs coming out this year, and I have every reason to believe this is the same pattern set by their Batman: The Animated Series releases a few years ago. In fact, alot of what has been said in here, in terms of speculation has been close, some even spot on. If you've been wondering why I haven't been posting that much...well...I've been afraid of letting things slip. I've gotten into enough trouble already! Still, I can't believe WHV let slip the plans for the next two Superman: The Animated Series plans. If that's any indiciation, hopefully WHV will let us know about some of the other shows we've been waiting for in next week's chat.
Hey, every time you let a little tidbit slip we're all really grateful. In the end, we all want complete collections of the DCAU shows and I think WHV is going to deliver.

A.J

03-24-2005, 12:25 AM

William C. Maune

03-24-2005, 02:43 AM

...today I got the crappy JLU DVD Saving the World for 8$ at my local Best buy :sad: ...not a bad price, but the DVD itself is so dissapointing...I just cant understand why TT and SS can have a 6/7 episode DVD release and JLU not...makes me so sad :(

The Teen Titans and Static Shock DVDs are of older episodes and of a series no longer being produced, respectively. Thus, they are partially marketed to kids and partially marketed to the more hardcore fans looking to collect all the episodes. On the other hand, the DVDs for JLU and The Batman are of very recent episodes and are largely marketed towards parents needing an impulse buy to appease their kids. Assuming the box sets continue to sell well, JLU DVD releases meant for the older fans should be released down the road.