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Harlan_Phoenix
02-11-2005, 09:18 PM
The normal gerbil power is not presant. You may call me master, or stud m00fin...which ever...just kidding though. Yeah ive been to random anime forums, but none so far have possessed the knowledge and fanatics that I seek. I wish to find help...

Freedom Fighter
02-11-2005, 09:26 PM
Oy. A big fat OY.

You must be watching 'Love Hina' for the first time, so I'll say this now. Give up your dream of watching Keitaro's dream of getting to Tokyo U. It's not worth it.

'Love Hina' is only good for one thing, and if it isn't apparent when you first watch the series, it definitely will be by the time you make it to the end. The writing goes south, as do the characters' personalities, and I'm sure there's other things that make this far from the coolest anime ever. But because I'm the type of guy who tries to make positive outlooks on everything, there are probably other people who could bash this even worse.

I mean, if you go for that kind of stuff, then sure, maybe you're right in thinking it's the coolest anime ever. Unfortunately, compared to the general consensus, there are much better shows out there, bar none.

Umino
02-11-2005, 09:30 PM
Love Hina. Sucks. It. Really. Does.

Has to be the most overrated anime to date. Yes people, worse than DBZ. Atleast DBZ was orinigal (minus the fact it's based on the tale Saiyuki) Love Hina is pretty much Maison Ikoku (sp?) with more fanservice. Just like Negima! is nothing more than Harry Potter with boobs.

rubberchicken
02-11-2005, 09:34 PM
You DO need help.

Artimus Gigan
02-11-2005, 09:38 PM
Turn back while you still can, TURN BACK NOW AND RUN LIKE THE WIND!!!!

Andrew T. Hingson
02-11-2005, 09:43 PM
Meh...

I greatly enjoy Love Hina. The dub is awful though.

Baseball
02-11-2005, 10:12 PM
Meh...

I greatly enjoy Love Hina. The dub is awful though. It really is. One of the worst spending of $20 I've ever made.

I wish they had animated the whole part when Seta and Keitaro go to Su's homeland.

Dark Fact
02-12-2005, 01:20 PM
What I don't get is why Ken Akamatsu shows Naru as a fiercely independent girl who would beat the living tar out of anyone who treats her even in the most remote sexually exploitive way in the show yet in posters and mangas they have her dressing up in slutty outfits and smiling like it is no big deal! Can't he make up his mind?

Juu-kuchi
02-12-2005, 01:41 PM
Well, at least Negima is better than Love Hina.

Love Hina had a great first episode and a small handful of others, but I could not fathom Keitaro falling in love with Naru. I mean, every episode is filled with misunderstanding and I am sick and tired of seeing him punched out into the sky. That and everybody gloats and smirks everywhere when they're inherently sadistic toward Keitaro who goes from a guy whose unlucky, to just a hapless hapless irredeemable loser.

Kitsune > All though.

Catlover
02-12-2005, 01:58 PM
I like Love Hina. I thought it was pretty fun fluff to watch. It's not the best anime, but was enjoyable. I don't see why some people have such a hatered for it, besides the fact that it's somewhat popular.

Freedom Fighter
02-12-2005, 02:23 PM
Just to clear up my stance...

Yes, at the beginning I was absolutely thrilled about watching Love Hina. What kinda normal guy wouldn't? But like I said, the storyline and characters really didn't feel like they went anywhere. Shoot, Naru takes the whole 'you argue/beat up a lot the one you love the most' to a whole new level! I'm kinda glad I skipped out on 'LH Again' thanks to the many negative reviews... and how much the 'Spring Special' bore the heck out of me.

I don't necessarily hate the show. It's 'interesting' in its sort of way. But the title of the thread is professing that Gerbil_Power thinks it's the coolest anime ever. And that's simply what I'm disagreeing on. Nothing more.

True Noir
02-12-2005, 02:27 PM
Oh yeah...I remember when I first watched this. I was like in fifth grade. It was a good show. Funny show. Crazy show. All words that explain Love Hina perfectly.

J. B. Warner
02-12-2005, 02:45 PM
WARNING: Fanfiction plug ahead.

The primary reason I like "Love Hina" is because it needs so much retooling. I mean, the eventual dissolving of the underlying theme (Keitaro's attempt to get into Tokyo U), combined with an underuse of minor characters, redesigned character models, and a subpar dubbing job eventually drove me to write "The American Way" - a movie-length fanfic that attempts to fix most of the problems the anime has. It's set after the end of the series, which allowed me to freely explore the personalities of some of the more underdeveloped side characters, which is really a problem that went unaddressed in the series' run (thousands of Motoko and Shinobu stories, but what about Kitsune or Su?). Plus, I changed the style of writing - where the original story focused almost exclusively on Keitaro and Naru's budding relationship, I focused on everyone equally, and I included more satire and general humor that doesn't necessarily fall into the category of "Ha ha, she punched him through the roof 'cause he walked in on her changing". Essentially, "Love Hina" is the type of anime I call a "fixer-upper" - not great, but could be sensational if a few things were changed (which is the same reason I still follow "Pokémon" - that show needs more retooling than a 1958 Edsel). That's my stance on anime: if I don't like it, I change it until I do.

Conekiller
02-12-2005, 02:48 PM
Well, at least Negima is better than Love Hina.
The manga......

AstroNerdBoy
02-12-2005, 05:57 PM
Love Hina is enjoyable for what it is -- a waffy, fanservice-filled, harem romantic comedy. And Horie Yui is perfect as Naru. *nods* The manga is better, but both fail when the step-sister is brought in. Love Hina Again covers that period and all it did was make the series take on incestuous tones. Basically, Kanako was brought in to extend the series and keep Naru and Keitaro apart a while longer with a new love-triangle that never worked.

I don't agree with comparing Love Hina with Maison Ikkoku. MI is much more grounded in reality with sometimes painful results for me. Heck, I could often see myself in Godai-san's shoes! :sweat: I never saw myself in Keitaro's shoes.

Juu-kuchi
02-12-2005, 08:18 PM
The manga...... Comparisons between manga versions of both shows you mean?

Well, I do have to admit that the LH manga is probably miles ahead of the anime. But I have yet to actually develop interest in reading it.

Ben
02-12-2005, 11:56 PM
Love Hina gets big points for being the first anime of its type I've ever seen to stand up and desexualize its preadolescent characters. The ending of that episode about Shinobu and kissing was like a breath of fresh air.

Much of it is dull, but most of it is at least fun. Though Naru is infuriating. Keitaro belongs with that "anemic" girl.

Bartman3010
02-13-2005, 10:26 AM
Love Hina is the first manga I've ever bought in my entire life. I'm not disappointed with it at all (Though I need to collect more volumes)

I'm sure its overrated, and theres better romantic comedies out there, but hey, its just plain fun to read.

Now the TV show...what the hell happened?

AstroNerdBoy
02-13-2005, 10:54 AM
I think some people get disappointed because the anime isn't as funny as the manga. That's because the manga is very ecchi and that couldn't be shown on TV. However, when the anime folks did go ecchi (the OAV "episode 25", Love Hina Again, Spring Special), it was just ecchi and not funny.

Also, the anime didn't develop the romance between Naru and Keitaro very well. It is much better done in the manga.

And the character designs of the anime aren't that great when compared to the manga.

Still, I do enjoy the title, both anime and manga.

Bartman3010
02-14-2005, 02:38 PM
Well, Naru barely ever turned around at the end of the episode to give Keitaro a hand with something, or be nice to him or act completely different at the end like in the books, they really should've just came up with their own episodes instead of re-telling the whole story.

Conekiller
02-14-2005, 04:13 PM
Comparisons between manga versions of both shows you mean?

Well, I do have to admit that the LH manga is probably miles ahead of the anime. But I have yet to actually develop interest in reading it.
it could have been read that way. But i was specifically referring to the the totally DULL first episode of Negima( although I do share the same opinion of the Love Hina manga/anime). It has loads of other problems in it that will never change that will bug me as long as the series will run. I'll stick with the visual/stylistic/comedic continuity of the manga, thankyouverymuch.

Juu-kuchi
02-14-2005, 05:41 PM
it could have been read that way. But i was specifically referring to the the totally DULL first episode of Negima( although I do share the same opinion of the Love Hina manga/anime). It has loads of other problems in it that will never change that will bug me as long as the series will run. I'll stick with the visual/stylistic/comedic continuity of the manga, thankyouverymuch. Ah so. I should probably buy the first volume of the Negima manga to understand what you're saying. Although I do have to agree with you that the series can be irking. Some of the soundtrack sound like something rejected from a Mark Mothersbaugh soundtrack for Rugrats. (Or I'm just hearing it that way).

Conekiller
02-14-2005, 05:55 PM
I've read the first 2 manga volumes, then ...saw the first ep of the tv show and I couldn't stand it. If you want me to elaborate,send me a PM so we don't hijack this thread.... <_<............. >_>........... <_>

JetMaster5
02-14-2005, 11:48 PM
Atleast DBZ was orinigal (minus the fact it's based on the tale Saiyuki) Love Hina is pretty much Maison Ikoku (sp?) with more fanservice. Just like Negima! is nothing more than Harry Potter with boobs.
Don't put down Negima just yet. The anime may not have reached that certain arc, but once Negi starts battling, the whole series gets better (If the anime continues to follow the manga storyline). And I'm gonna stop right there because I don't want to spoil anymore.

But Akamatsu really surprised me with Negima. I never thought he could handle action scenes very well...

lostrune
02-15-2005, 09:02 AM
I've read the first 2 manga volumes, then ...saw the first ep of the tv show and I couldn't stand it. If you want me to elaborate,send me a PM so we don't hijack this thread.... <_<............. >_>........... <_>

> http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/article.php?id=6112
>
> According to this article:
>
> "Accodring to Ken Akamatsu's homepage, the DVD release of Mahou Sensei
> Negima! TV will receive a facelift compared to the TV version, with
> several
> scenes altered."
>
> "In episode 1 a dozen cuts that were not properly supervised will be
> amended. Episode #2 will be redone in its entirety, with new storyboards
> from director Nagisa Miyazaki. The opening will be redone with full
> animation, and from episode #4 onwards all improperly supervised cuts will
> be redone. Additionally, laces will be added to Kuma-chan's pants."
>
> I seem to remember that initial reviews on r.a.a.m. complained about the
> poor quality of the animation.
>
> JdG

Looks as if they are in panic-salvage mode. Serves them right for putting
out such a piss-poor product. The problem is that the overall story quality
is so mediocre that most viewers won't bother to try the DVDs even with the
promised "new storyboards". I'm still watching the series, but I sure won't
spend any money on it.

Hatter
02-15-2005, 11:05 AM
Negima doesn't quite have the same charm as Love Hina... which I love, BTW, like my right arm. The anime is inferior to the manga, and even though it kinda falls apart near the end, the other dozen or so volumes are just wonderful.

AstroNerdBoy
02-15-2005, 11:22 AM
The Negima! manga surprised me as well. I only picked it up because is was from Akamatsu-sensei (and I did enjoy Love Hina) and I learned about Del Rey's policy of keeping the honorifics in the translation. The first couple of volumes were lolicon fanservice, but volume three actually got good. Volume 4 wasn't bad either. So I've been more interested in the series.

As for action, it doesn't surprise me that Akamatsu-sensei can pull it off. After all, he did have Mokoto with her sword in Love Hina. :p

Conekiller
02-15-2005, 11:41 AM
> http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/article.php?id=6112
>
> According to this article:
>
> "Accodring to Ken Akamatsu's homepage, the DVD release of Mahou Sensei
> Negima! TV will receive a facelift compared to the TV version, with
> several
> scenes altered."
>
> "In episode 1 a dozen cuts that were not properly supervised will be
> amended. Episode #2 will be redone in its entirety, with new storyboards
> from director Nagisa Miyazaki. The opening will be redone with full
> animation, and from episode #4 onwards all improperly supervised cuts will
> be redone. Additionally, laces will be added to Kuma-chan's pants."
>
> I seem to remember that initial reviews on r.a.a.m. complained about the
> poor quality of the animation.
>
> JdG

Looks as if they are in panic-salvage mode. Serves them right for putting
out such a piss-poor product. The problem is that the overall story quality
is so mediocre that most viewers won't bother to try the DVDs even with the
promised "new storyboards". I'm still watching the series, but I sure won't
spend any money on it.

So I take it I'm not the only one with an adverse reaction to the appearence/direction of the show :sweat:

ced1106
02-15-2005, 12:37 PM
I'll slap on an "I agree" post here. You'll find people who've watched the show, like the show, but don't think much of the show. :yawn: My own beef is that the anime will spend half an hour developing a character -- then drop it entirely at the beginning of the next episode. Still, after the local anime club stopped showing it, my opinion of it is now "You could be watching something worse so keep watching Love Hina". :anime:

Oh, and here's a direct link to my LH directory page for my wallpaper and desktop themes site: :D
http://ced1106.home.comcast.net/lh/index.html


Cedric.
aka. Washu! ^O^

AstroNerdBoy
02-15-2005, 01:05 PM
I'm always trying to watch anime titles I haven't seen by renting DVD's from Greencine for licensed titles and downloading fansubs. That said, there are times when I have to re-watch DVD's in my own collection while waiting for the next DVD's to come from Greencine. So I think I will re-watch Love Hina next after I finish re-watching Cardcaptor Sakura. Besides, the open theme is one of my favorites!