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Batman's Biggest Fan
02-11-2005, 10:18 AM
By far the cruelest for me has got to be when the crowd is throwing tomatoes at Quasimodo at the beginning. I really felt bad for the poor guy there. :(
Theatrical Short: When Donald forces his nephews to smoke an entire box of cigars in "Donald's Happy Birthday"
Theatrical Film: When the sisters completely destroy Cinderella's dress. The camera view and the animation made that scene particularly cruel.
Donald Duck 12
02-11-2005, 07:19 PM
Anything Amos made Copper do. The Fox and the Hound is great, one of my favorite movies, but nothing in Disney Animation is crueler than anything in there.
Lehteb
02-11-2005, 07:25 PM
I'd have to go with the two parts from The Fox and the Hound were Todd is yelled at by a grumpy badger. That badger is one of the very few Disney characters (albeit minor) that I genuinely HATED.
ToOn~g@l
02-11-2005, 08:07 PM
The scene in Bambi where his mother is shot and then he wanders the forest loooking for her, why would anyone want to shoot a deer with a fawn.
Monkey12
02-11-2005, 08:32 PM
The death of Mufasha in Lion King.
Pathfinder1011
02-11-2005, 08:34 PM
I too felt sorry for Quasi too. I liked the way Esmerelda became his friend.
A lovely thing it was.
When Mufasa dies in the Lion King...and Simba finds him.(Dad?!...Dad?!....You've gotta get up...we've gotta go home...) ..I cried the first time I saw the scene,and it still makes me sad(as sad as Bambi's mom's death is,Bambi/the audience doesn't see her die and then her dead body)...
The scene where the crowd turns on Quasimodo is particularly sad--made even more so by the fact that just a minute or so before, he was shedding tears of happiness. :/ That entire topsy-turvy sequence is a bit hard for me to watch because it's just so heartwrenching.
Wolfcruiser
02-12-2005, 11:18 AM
Theatrical Film: When the sisters completely destroy Cinderella's dress. The camera view and the animation made that scene particularly cruel.
Ditto for me as well. That was exceptionally cruel to poor Cinderella.
Donald Duck 12
02-13-2005, 10:25 PM
Boo leaving made me cry the first time I saw it and Eyeore under the raincloud in Piglet's Big Movie was definetly cruel.
You guys bring up good ones - just remembering them made me sad (poor Quasi!) But the thing that jumps to mind for me is in "Dumbo" when they separate Dumbo from his mom. That whole "Baby Mine" sequence through the cage bars always made me sad.
Queen of Hearts
02-15-2005, 07:57 PM
There are quite a bit I can recall:
The Little Mermaid- When the king trashed all of Ariel's collection (jerk).:mad:
Hunchback of Notre Dame- How Frollo treated Esmeralda and the other gypsies.
The Fox and the Hound- The badger. Enough said.
Aladdin- The snotty prince that insulted Aladdin.
Cinderella- Everything the step mother and step sisters put her through.
The Rescuers- When Medusa put Penny in the hole and was willing to let her drown (the cruelest act ANY Disney villain has done IMO).
Phantasm
02-15-2005, 08:23 PM
The scene in Beauty and the Beast when Gaston shoots an arrow straight at the beast's back.The way in which the Beast arches his back in pain and that ferocious roar that elicits from his mouth...Also the dramatic thunder in the backdrop...:( :crying:
Tobias
02-15-2005, 08:38 PM
I hope this isn't just limited to Disney films, because for me, the cruelest scene is in part 1 of 'Awakening', when Goliath returns to find his entire clan dead.
Yeah,that scene is one of the saddest scenes in the Gargoyles series...esp,when Goliath thinks Demona's dead("My....angel of the night")...
Jean_Grey
02-16-2005, 12:56 PM
When Mufasa dies it was so sad :crying:
Roaming Tigress
02-17-2005, 03:34 AM
I'll definately second the scene in which the crowd is throwing tomatoes at Quasi. Doesn't matter how often I see that scene, I still get teary eyed at the cruelty and humiliation they inflicted on him.
Paul_Cousins
02-17-2005, 04:54 AM
Yeah,that scene is one of the saddest scenes in the Gargoyles series...esp,when Goliath thinks Demona's dead("My....angel of the night")...I agree, the last scenes of Episode 1 of Gargoyles from the Wyvern Castle massacre to Goliath's final scenes in that episode.
Skeeter
02-19-2005, 01:42 AM
The Lion King: It's not the death of Mufasa I find cruel but Scar's manipulation of young Simba. He comes upon his dead brother and grieving nephew and instead of offering sympathy easily convinces Simba that his father's death was his fault, then tells him to run away. Then later when Simba comes back to challenge his uncle Scar uses Mufasa's death and Simba's guilt over it to try and discredit him in the eyes of the pride.
The Rescuers: Medusa forcing Penny to stay down in the underground cavern until she had retrieved the Devil's Eye was pretty cruel. But so was her little "talk" with Penny the night before. "What makes you think anyone would want a homely little girl like you?" Her tone of voice as she said it and the way she barely looked at Penny out of the corner of her eye as she was taking off her makeup makes me want to smack Medusa every time. And the expression on Penny's face...you could tell that Medusa had stepped on and crushed all of the little girl's hopes and dreams right there.
Conekiller
02-19-2005, 02:40 AM
I'm gonna hafta chime in with Hunchback, but a completely other scene. Frollo's "hellfire" song. This man was PRAYING to god to kill a woman because he loved her against his prejudices. I have never been terrified of a Disney villain before or since. that and Tony Jay is spectacular.
Queen of Hearts
02-19-2005, 05:19 PM
The Rescuers: Medusa forcing Penny to stay down in the underground cavern until she had retrieved the Devil's Eye was pretty cruel. But so was her little "talk" with Penny the night before. "What makes you think anyone would want a homely little girl like you?" Her tone of voice as she said it and the way she barely looked at Penny out of the corner of her eye as she was taking off her makeup makes me want to smack Medusa every time. And the expression on Penny's face...you could tell that Medusa had stepped on and crushed all of the little girl's hopes and dreams right there.
I couldn't agree more. Medusa has to be THE nastiest villain that Disney has ever made! I HATED her with a heated passion when I first saw 'The Rescuers' when I was four or so. I think I still do. It's VERY hard for me to hate a character, but Medusa is an exception.
Cartman
02-22-2005, 11:23 AM
I'm surprised that no one mentioned EDUCATION FOR DEATH. Brainwashing children into the Nazi way of life has got to be horribly cruel.
Bunai
02-22-2005, 11:57 AM
pretty much everyone mentioned it
umm
TLK2SP
When Nuka is crushed by the logs trying to get Kovu. He wanted his mothers attention so much :(
RDU
When the gold eagle was caught midflight, and the boy jumped after her. To free her.
101D
When Cruella said she didn't care how her two goons killed the puppies...she really wanted that coat, it was THAT convining to me 0_o
there is more but i'll list these
guinaevere
02-22-2005, 12:08 PM
Theatrical Short: When Donald forces his nephews to smoke an entire box of cigars in "Donald's Happy Birthday"Wow. It's been ages, but I remember that scene. Donald could be extremely unlikable way back when.
90'sCartoonMan
02-22-2005, 10:51 PM
I'm surprised that no one mentioned EDUCATION FOR DEATH. Brainwashing children into the Nazi way of life has got to be horribly cruel.
...what now?
I still don't know, but my friend would say it's in the Tigger movie when he isn't reunited with his family. Mostly because Tigger is supposed to be a happy character.
Bunai
02-23-2005, 05:37 AM
...what now?
I still don't know, but my friend would say it's in the Tigger movie when he isn't reunited with his family. Mostly because Tigger is supposed to be a happy character.
i was going to put that too^^
but i thought this was for physical things.
it was really sad to, his hopes all up and even when they told him he just blanked out about it
Viper
02-23-2005, 06:05 PM
I'm surprised that no one mentioned EDUCATION FOR DEATH. Brainwashing children into the Nazi way of life has got to be horribly cruel.I saw that once on the internet, and my jaw hit the floor when I was watching it!:eek:
Kooshmeister
02-23-2005, 07:51 PM
Those that were mentioned were pretty cruel, especially what the Stepsisters did to the dress in Cinderalla, but I don't really consider the deaths of Mufasa in The Lion King or Bambi's mother in Bambi to be particularly cruel. While tragic, they served the story.
At any rate, here's the stuff I consider to be unusually cruel for Disney, and, coincidentally, they're all from TaleSpin.
1. Jack Case's fate at the end of A Spy in the Ointment. Am I the only one who considers his punishment (being left behind in Thembria and imprisoned as a spy) to be far too harsh for his "crimes"? He was reckless and irresponsible to be sure, but I find watching A Spy in the Ointment extremely difficult knowing what happens to Jack at the end.
2. The multiple humiliations of Douglas "Dougie" Benson in Louie's Last Stand. I'll buy Shere Khan dryly making fun of his lame idea for sunglasses that glow in the dark because, well, it was lame, as well as Louie having sport with him when he's trying to buy the island, but I can't stand seeing all Louie's patrons mocking him mercilessly, nor Shere Khan's pilots later in the episode. Is it any wonder this guy lapsed into homicidal mania when he has only one friend (Walters, who also eventually laughs at him too)?
3. Pretty much the entire episode Flight of the Snow Duck. I lost any sympathy I had for the Thembrians when they imprison Molly. I can take their screwy laws (needing a permit to play in the snow), but throwing a six-year-old little girl into an icy, concentration camp-like prison is just way too much, plus later they shoot at her!
4. Pretty much anything MacKnee does in Mommy For a Day. I hated him the moment we first see him whipping Henry the Yenkara, but I really, really wanted him to die when, later on, he prepares to shoot the gentle beast out of the sky with no regard whatsoever for Molly and Kit who are on Henry's back. And, in a rather bizarre reversal of Jack Case's fate, I don't believe MacKnee is punished enough. Unlike Jack, we can be sure MacKnee will at least be treated fairly.
EDIT: As to who I consider the evilest TaleSpin villain ever (if not the evilest Disney villain, period), that'd have to be Professor Crackpotkin in Gruel and Unusual Punishment. A guy willing to endanger the lives of thousands just to destroy a factory that makes a food he doesn't like? Now THAT is evil!
Warrior Kitana
02-24-2005, 07:40 PM
-Mufasa's death (The Lion King): I love Scar as a villian and all, but man it was cold to kill his brother like that. I was really ticked off at how he lied to poor Simba, making him believe that he actually killed his father.
-The Townspeople throwing those vegetables at Quaisimodo. Man, I get a little emotional everytime I see that scene. I wanna slap the crap outta those people.:mad:
-When the stepsisters destroyed Cinderella's dress. I don't care for Cinderella much, but the stepsisters were cold.
-When Gaston shoots the arrow in the Beast's back.
There's probably more, but I can't think of them now.
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