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James
01-29-2005, 10:15 PM
Re; the suit, I agree with Batkid that the head dress does look a far better fit and I doubt it will either wobble or weigh down even as much as Clooney's more lightweigh mold did. Lucky Bale. :)

I've given up on the cape, I agree with Tim but eventually you just got to accept it and pray the reel will do more justice to it than the camera has.

The one niggle that I really don't like that's evident on that pic is how the mask sort of sits on top of the cape. It sort of makes the seamlessness of the rest of the costume jar. Again, not a big issue, but it just looks... odd. I think a cape of similar material would have been more suitable for the all matt look they have here. The matt black against the cape I'm sure is what makes the cape look so awkward.. it makes it very visable. Maybe on film where the contrasts are more likely to be balanced to suit the ambience it will look a lot more sexy and fitting.

Edit by Bird Boy: We're in part four!

http://www.batmanbegins.com/ - Revamped site, all three trailers, posters and pictures.

TimTwoFace
01-29-2005, 11:47 PM
There's actually a reason for his costume to be not really that scary in the first place. It may be a lil' bit of a spoiler since it's from the script, but it's minor.I've read the script...but even if you overlook that, this costume was chosen because Nolan is trying to make Batman more gritty and realistic. Based on what I've seen, a full-out Scarecrow costume, while cool, would look out of place in this movie; if Tim Burton (or even Joel Schumacher) were directing, I could see this, but here, everything is rooted in reality. Hence, a Scarecrow costume that still includes that vital mask, the rest of which being a regular suit - but hopefully distinct enough to set it apart from other suits.

As for the cape - I want to like it, but from here, it looks like the type of material that if you held up a flashlight to it, the light would shine right through. I'm sure it's not that cheap, but it just LOOKS that way at the moment. I really liked the latex capes used in the movies thus far, as it matched the rest of the costume quite nicely. Here it sort of clashes.

Oh well, we'll see soon enough when some better footage is released.

-Tim
(11,000 posts!)

BatKid
01-30-2005, 12:05 AM
I wasn't too thrilled with the cape's texture. But if you look awhile back at the massive BOF set report on the suit, they actually had a reason for not going with the previous films' latex cape. And that reason being that it reflects too much light when shined on. You can see this even in B89 at the belltower. A lil' bit of light, and bam...he's like a walking 'glow n da dark'.

And of course, with Nolan's film being grounded in reality (I honestly think he's looked over every single aspect regarding this), Batman would never consider that as part of his costume.

Phantasm
01-30-2005, 08:05 AM
hhmmm...I don't see this problem with the cape except that it looks real long.Long is Good.:) I hope they include instances in the film where the cape will envelop him. That would be SO dramatic!

langden alger
01-30-2005, 08:53 AM
i guess since batman is still in piece-together prototype stage with his costume in this film, we'll maybe see him get a new mask color that blends seamlessly with his cape in the sequel...especially since for all his darkness, batman has the most fashion awareness/never caught dead in the same costume twice attitude of all movie superheroes;)

wrenchien
01-30-2005, 10:28 AM
batman looks cool...

the scarecrow looks terrible...

hope its better in live-action.

you sure it isn't batcat?

Damien
01-30-2005, 02:31 PM
That's...the Scarecrow. Geez. He better kick butt to Dixieland and back in this movie. I understand the concept, but still...I was hoping to see something close to TNBA or Hush versions. Ah well.
I also like that last pic. of Batman posted by BatKid. I mean, it actually says "This is Batman."
I'll probably have to work Superbowl Sunday (it's my last day there), so hopefully the new trailer won't be until the fourth quarter sometime.

TimTwoFace
01-30-2005, 07:03 PM
I'll probably have to work Superbowl Sunday (it's my last day there), so hopefully the new trailer won't be until the fourth quarter sometime.
I'm sure that someone in the world will copy that Superbowl ad and post it on the net, just in case some of us miss it. I wouldn't worry about it.

-Tim

BonyT
01-30-2005, 08:03 PM
I hope they include instances in the film where the cape will envelop him. That would be SO dramatic!That is a dramatic look. The cape design used in this & all the big-budget feature films, of course, doesn't lend itself to Batman being fully "enveloped" in the cape (like he is in many of the comic panels, where his costume is completely hidden by the cape), simply because the film capes all connect on the shoulders & don't come all the way around the neck to meet in front, leaving a gap. But based on the publicity photos that have come out so far, I'd say they'll be using plenty of shots that still achieve that general look anyway.

BatKid
02-02-2005, 06:30 PM
Well, it looks like we have a "official" look at Scarecrow (sans fear effect victims see him as). One of the insiders at BOF confirmed that this is what he will look in the film:

http://www.pittarelli.com/ebay/scare202.jpg

matta2fatta
02-02-2005, 06:32 PM
that ish is creepy as hell i like it

James
02-02-2005, 06:34 PM
I like it a lot. Far more than the traditional comic version. The uneven eye slits really give it a eerie edge. I look forward to seeing how that looks rendered in a photo shoot.

Phantasm
02-02-2005, 06:39 PM
It looks dramatic and menacing enough in this rendition form but I'm hoping it doesn't look like a man wearing a tattered dishrag in the film.:shrug:

BonyT
02-02-2005, 06:49 PM
The Scarecrow's look is one that's probably a lot easier to make dramatic in animation than it is in live action. But this pic looks pretty promising to me.

Thanks for keeping us so up-to-date, BatKid! :)

Damien
02-02-2005, 06:54 PM
I like the rendition, but the walkie-talkie looked kinda bland. I'm sure he'll look cool in the movie. He better. He better be so cool. I've been looking forward to seeing a live-action Scarecrow for years.

BatKid
02-02-2005, 07:01 PM
Glad to see most like it. Ironically, I myself don't like it that much. :sweat:

I agree that this does look creepy..but in a deformed kind of way. I was expecting it to be creepy in a "holy crap! that guy's evil!" type of thing. :yawn:

Phantasm
02-02-2005, 08:01 PM
hhmm...I was wondering, why did't they stick with the popular traditional Batman villans like Joker or Catwoman for this film? I mean Scarecrow is a pretty low-key Batman villan...

BatKid
02-02-2005, 08:12 PM
They wanted to introduce villains that weren't brought before in the previous franchise. Rest assured though that the important villains (Joker and Two-Face at least) WILL show up in this new franchise.

TimTwoFace
02-02-2005, 08:48 PM
They wanted to introduce villains that weren't brought before in the previous franchise. Rest assured though that the important villains (Joker and Two-Face at least) WILL show up in this new franchise.
Exactly. They wanted this movie to be totally free of those earlier movies, so they went with two of the most interesting villains that were as yet unused in live-action.

Besides, look at the movies we've had so far; as far as the general public is concerned, before Tim Burton started up the last franchise in '89, Batman only had four major foes (Joker, Penguin, Catwoman, Riddler). Now that other villains have been used in the movies (and thanks to a lot of influence from the animated series), they are all generally household names; people may not know much about them, but if you mention "Two-Face" or "Mr. Freeze", the general public would still associate them with foes of Batman.

Therefore, I believe that the simple fact that the Scarecrow is in this movie as a major supporting role (just as Ra's al Ghul, Henri Ducard, The Roman, Mr. Zsasz, etc, are) they'll be well-known now because they're getting the most public exposure of their fictional careers.

Besides, both Ra's al Ghul and the Scarecrow were still pretty major villains in Batman's rogues gallery (both in the comics and in the animated series), and are both definitely considered part of the A-list.

I'm actually very happy that the Joker, in particular, has nothing to do with this film. Even though he's generally regarded as Batman's #1 foe, I despise the fact that he's seen as the only one that can ever be used in anything, like special stories, events, crossovers, movies, TV episodes, etc; I like seeing the wealth being spread around, and two very different and unique villains take centre stage here.

Besides, as Batkid said, the Joker and Two-Face have been confirmed to definitely be planned for being in this revamped movie series - and of all the returning villains to the series, I think these two offer the most interesting foils. (Which one will actually feature prominently in the sequel, however, is up to anyone's guess.)

Catwoman is definitely what I'd consider a no-brainer for this series, too. Funny how we haven't heard much about her. That movie with Halle Berry was a horrible flop, but I don't think it ruined Catwoman's name at all, because people knew that wasn't the real Catwoman from the comics - it was just a pale copy. She'll turn up again, I'm sure.

As for the others - I honestly doubt we'll see Poison Ivy and Bane again any time soon. And Mr. Freeze - really, there's not much more we can do with his character. The basic story would be nearly identical, it would just be given to a better actor to deal with.

Penguin and Riddler are always possibilities...but I'd like to see some more of the lesser, unused villains appear as well, such as the Mad Hatter, Ventriloquist, Clayface, Talia, and way, way down the line, a Harley Quinn that doesn't get on your nerves.

Here's hoping.

Meantime, June 17th awaits!

-Tim

Damien
02-02-2005, 11:43 PM
I'm sorry, Tim, but you threw in Zsasz in as having a major supporting role. Is this to say it won't just be a cell block appearance? If so, nice. Having Zsasz would be a great added bonus.
As far as future villains, I never like Harley Quinn...I don't care for Clayface...Ventriloquist would be cool, but not as the main villain...and FireFly would make a great opener.
Can't wait until we see the Joker. Or Two-Face, for that matter. Catwoman, the real Catwoman, will be especially cool, hopefully triumphantly taking back the mantle (metaphorically speaking).

TimTwoFace
02-03-2005, 12:46 AM
I'm sorry, Tim, but you threw in Zsasz in as having a major supporting role. Is this to say it won't just be a cell block appearance? If so, nice. Having Zsasz would be a great added bonus.
Admittedly I have seen the script and the version I read didn't include Zsasz - therefore, that proves there have been some rewrites since that include the character. I doubt he's a major character like Ra's, Ducard, Scarecrow, or even Falcone, but he will be present. I think it's basically just a nice nod to the fans - and even though I love Zsasz, he's the sort of character that could easily be tossed into any storyline as a stock "derranged mass murderer" but with a cool gimmick to keep him interesting.


As far as future villains, I never like Harley Quinn...I don't care for Clayface...Ventriloquist would be cool, but not as the main villain...and FireFly would make a great opener.
Any Bat-villain, really, could hold their own as the major villain of any storyline. At the same time, though, Firefly could easily work as a good second-tier "opener" villain, or a supporting villain that fits into a plot that works for him.

Personally, I'd love a great Clayface movie, because that character has a lot of potential - particularly if they go with the Matt Hagen route, as BTAS did.

I'd love to see the Ventriloquist, too, but if Two-Face is already a given in the series, I think another character with gangster ties and multiple personality disorder may be pushing it - even though, beyond those two general themes, they really are quite different.

-Tim

BatKid
02-04-2005, 06:49 PM
http://www.pittarelli.com/ebay/scare202.jpg

Wesyeed
02-04-2005, 06:56 PM
Wow... That's scary in a sort-of Birth of a Nation/sleepy hollow type of way. The lighting is going to be a big part of what makes this character work. His eyes seem to be almost glowing behind that mask/sack of potatoes.

....cool.

Silly McGooses
02-04-2005, 07:35 PM
I think that the scarecrow will probably get creepier as the movie goes on; maybe this is him as he normally looks if you were seeing him just walking down the street in real life (god forbid!), but they'll have different "looks" for him when the fear gas gets used and he gets more evil.
hmmm?

Phantasm
02-04-2005, 07:42 PM
http://www.pittarelli.com/ebay/scare202.jpg

VERY reminicent of Sleepy Hollow.It seems to exude a certain element of class.That I like!:)

BatKid
02-04-2005, 08:54 PM
I think that the scarecrow will probably get creepier as the movie goes on; maybe this is him as he normally looks if you were seeing him just walking down the street in real life (god forbid!), but they'll have different "looks" for him when the fear gas gets used and he gets more evil.
hmmm?
That's 100% correct.

Notice also the ripped straight jacket he's wearing. It's from Arkham.

BatKid
02-05-2005, 12:53 AM
Looks like WB is revving up for the promotion of this film. As many of us wanted, the site has gotten an overhaul, and a much improved one at that. The layout is better, and now there are official wallpapers available. There's also a new shot of Batman in one of the AIM icons.

Check it out at the official site (http://www.batmanbegins.com).

BatKid
02-05-2005, 11:37 AM
http://www2.warnerbros.com/batmanbegins/images/video/thb_tvspot.jpg

Check the pic address, notice it says "tv spot". Looks like we can look forward to new footage in the 30 sec. trailer tomorrow.

Wesyeed
02-05-2005, 11:49 AM
Cool pic. Just read the synopsis. Great... (I fear we'll have another Spider-man on our hands with little kids screaming "Where's Spider-man?" for the first half hour. That was really annoying.) I wonder who or what he's looking at when he's holding Ms. Holmes' character in his arms. (and I'm surprised the wb didn't airbrush out a little something out... Take that Spider-man, her's are much nicer. ha ha ha ha...)

Phantasm
02-05-2005, 11:50 AM
yey!I just got a new wallpaper!!

:anime:

Spider-Man
02-05-2005, 12:21 PM
http://www2.warnerbros.com/batmanbegins/images/video/thb_tvspot.jpg

Check the pic address, notice it says "tv spot". Looks like we can look forward to new footage in the 30 sec. trailer tomorrow. That's a pretty cool picture. I'm glad we'll get new footage from the Superbowl TV Spot. And speaking of new footage there is one more trailer after this one right? When is that one supposed to premiere?

BatKid
02-05-2005, 01:28 PM
(and I'm surprised the wb didn't airbrush out a little something out... Take that Spider-man, her's are much nicer. ha ha ha ha...) Haha, that was the first thing I noticed when I went to the synopsis page. I was like....:eek: :evil:


That's a pretty cool picture. I'm glad we'll get new footage from the Superbowl TV Spot. And speaking of new footage there is one more trailer after this one right? When is that one supposed to premiere?
The full 2 min. trailer? Most likely around May.

BatKid
02-06-2005, 12:03 PM
Guys....CHECK THESE NEW PICS OUT NOW! :eek:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/BigBlueBird/6a9ef240.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/BigBlueBird/756a2c1f.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/BigBlueBird/9206e5c7.jpg

That last one is THE epitome of what Batman is!!!

MAXIMUS
02-06-2005, 12:27 PM
the last pic is amazingly good. i cant wait for the new tv spot today. batkid keep up the good work ;)

TimTwoFace
02-06-2005, 01:16 PM
Those are some rad pics. I'm digging them all. :)

-Tim

Hatter
02-06-2005, 02:30 PM
Holy hell, those pictures are BLOODY AMAZING.

Phantasm
02-06-2005, 04:16 PM
WOW!*dances with joy!*

The last picture is just such a dream come true!:anime:

Just by implementing that Batman pose, Nolan has almost 80% proved his version of the icon to be of a definite status.

James
02-06-2005, 04:50 PM
Again, notice the brown natural tones... odd how those are the tones they choose to promo with such a matt black costume. I like natural tones, I'm just curious whether the reasons are following the "Superhero" natural tones trend (which Spider Man 2 and Hellboy were heavily into) or if this reflects a movement in the project which will be visually revealed onscreen. Curious and interesting.

I'm sure I'll be slammed for it, but nothing grabs me here. I notice a trend of trying to transpose comic standard compositions into movie medium which I think is a nice idea, but the costume just doesn't really sing to me still and I suppose I doubt it will till I see it within context of the film. That cape looks more "Vader" than superhero and the suit - as I've said before - just doesn't look much evolved from some of the great suits used for various fanfilms and cosplays. Obviously on file we'll really see the difference, as the money put into this suit will probably be defined by the weight and agility which I doubt no fan film will ever compare to, but for visual stills... there is a lot of competition these days from fans at doing this sort of thing and so official studios have a lot to compete with.

So I'm not seeing the excitement. If you like the costume, I can understand it.. if you don't.. well, if you saw someone in a tuxedo and didn't like the cut, whether they were in profile, the desert, the jungle or a shadowy tunnel, you know what that tux is like and you ain't going to like it.

I think I'll just have to weight to the film and see how it flows in action.. I think that will make a BIG difference (or not I suppose, I remain positive that there must be some benefits to the suit beyond it's visual looks).

MAXIMUS
02-06-2005, 06:22 PM
just saw the tv spot....droooooooooooool

Patrick Bateman
02-06-2005, 06:52 PM
just saw the tv spot....droooooooooooool They already played it? O_O

Stu
02-06-2005, 06:58 PM
Will it be available online soon?

MAXIMUS
02-06-2005, 07:14 PM
full o fgreat footage including a full on shot of the scarecrow, batmobile in glorious action, some lines from alfred and lucius fox and some other pretty cool action scenes, it will get you pumped. should play it again, cuz i think they usually do play some ads twice but should be online tonight.

Patrick Bateman
02-06-2005, 07:31 PM
Did they play it during the pre-game show? I started my VCR with the game itself, so I'm gonna be PISSED if that's the case.

James Harvey
02-06-2005, 07:49 PM
The Batman Begins TV Spot just aired in Canada and it was excellent! And for all of those wondering...Yes, we get our first glimpse of The Scarecrow and Katie Holmes in this spot.

BatKid
02-06-2005, 08:09 PM
http://inlandempirestrikesback.net/v-web/gallery/albums/BatmanBegins/P1000760.mov

That's a link to the Superbowl trailer for those that missed it. It's in poor quality, but hopefully my friends at another forum can get something better. But, this is it for now.

Let me just say...this trailer f'in rocks! :eek:

Patrick Bateman
02-06-2005, 08:09 PM
It just played in the states... and just... *blown away*

The pics, while cool, don't give you an idea of the look and feel of the film likek this trailer did. The cinematography looks outstanding in those action scenes. I just... man. I think any pessimism I have, even about the costume, needs to shut up.:cool:

Phantasm
02-06-2005, 08:17 PM
"Does it come in black?"

LOL!!!!!
THIS IS SSSSSSSSSOOOOOOOO AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!
REALLY MADE MY DAY!!:eek: :eek: :anime: :anime:

BatKid
02-06-2005, 08:22 PM
Well, I said I'd come back with the high quality version, and here it is. :cool:

http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=5020

First look at the Scarecrow, batmobile in action, and much more! Enjoy the hi-res! :D

DR.MID-NITE
02-06-2005, 08:27 PM
The more I see of the new movie. The more it makes the Burton Bats look pale in comparison. I love how they are using real city locals to do the filming. It annoyed the piss out of me in '89 Bats that every care chase took them past the same movie theater the Waynes were killed nearby. And the fact a real city scape. Just adds to the realism.


June can't come soon enough!! :D

BatKid
02-06-2005, 08:29 PM
A small update to my previous post. Now you can see the trailer in FULL SCREEN QUICKTIME at the official site:

http://www2.warnerbros.com/batmanbegins/video.html

Wesyeed
02-06-2005, 08:32 PM
Remarkable bit of footage. Looks like a jolly good film.

Phantasm
02-06-2005, 08:33 PM
Well, I said I'd come back with the high quality version, and here it is. :cool:

http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=5020

First look at the Scarecrow, batmobile in action, and much more! Enjoy the hi-res! :D
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

wwwwwwwwwwwooooooooooww!!!!!!!

I can barely put my excitement into comprehensible words at the moment but...

Bruce Wayne, "Does it come in black?" I mean...WOW!!!
And here I was thiniking the only place to load up on cool batman one liners was JLU!!! :anime:

Finally! I clear cut distinction between Bruce Wayne and Batman!!!

Bale is the epitome of hotness!

Silly McGooses
02-06-2005, 09:20 PM
VERY nice! Glad to see it was all new footage, and the scarecrow looks a lot better on film then in that picture. Glad they didn't show TOO much, though!:D
They really took advantage of their thirty seconds, showcasing all the major stars in the movie.

Eddie G.
02-06-2005, 10:21 PM
http://www.freewebs.com/flatbushboy/Scarecrow.bmp

Awesome.

TimTwoFace
02-07-2005, 01:13 AM
When did this air in the states? In Canada it aired just after the third quarter of the Superbowl began...I'm glad that this commercial was one of the few American commercials that Global didn't overwrite with our own unique advertising...for Canadian Tire. (Ugh!)

Anyway, the commercial was pretty sweet. We don't really get much of a story feel, just an array of quick glimpses featuring a number of characters, like Batman, Alfred, Ducard, Rachel, Scarecrow, and Lucius Fox - not to mention some sort of elevated train, Batmobile, and some Gotham footage.

Lookin' sweet, indeed. Everything in this movie seems to be of a natural, earth-toned variety - I'm actually digging it more now.

-Tim

Spider-Man
02-07-2005, 09:58 AM
http://www.freewebs.com/flatbushboy/Scarecrow.bmp
That picture looks amazing! I really like this lookwith the Scarecrow. It just seems twisted enough to work.

witness
02-07-2005, 10:19 AM
This commercial aired in FL just before the halftime show. Really wanted to see a clip of Ra's, though I'm glad we got the Scarecrow. However, I would have loved for the commercial to be the one that was described in this thread. That would have been so much more exciting. Maybe next time.

Hey, here's a question: Does anyone who's not a Batman fan know who the Scarecrow was when they saw him? Did anyone have to explain it to their friends yet? If so, what was their response?

Jaguar
02-07-2005, 10:23 AM
I just saw the TV spot. I thought it was pretty good, but some part of me found its overall style to be slightly disjointed. Therefore, I'm still skeptical about...everything. =(

BonyT
02-07-2005, 11:53 AM
http://www.freewebs.com/flatbushboy/Scarecrow.bmp

Awesome.Bringing off the Scarecrow's look successfully in animation is entirely different than doing it in live-action. I think this is probably the best way to hande the Scarecrow's look in live-action.

Robin
02-07-2005, 01:48 PM
Bringing off the Scarecrow's look successfully in animation is entirely different than doing it in live-action. I think this is probably the best way to hande the Scarecrow's look in live-action.Exactly. As much as I liked the design of the Scarecrow in the cartoons, especially the TNBA version, that wouldn't work in this movie. I like the idea of an ugly, distorted mask hiding Crane's face. That mask does look creepy. I can only imagine the poor soul he's taunting with that lighter is going through. I can't wait to see it, however.

Damien
02-07-2005, 06:48 PM
Although I like the realist approach to the Scarecrow, I still would've loved to have seen a mid-Western gothic terror; the scarecrow from your cornfield come alive to get your soul. But this works, too.
Now, if I could only get the T.V. spot to load.....

Phantasm
02-07-2005, 06:48 PM
Watching all the trailers consecutively gives u a good sense of the film. And its fun!!:anime:

James
02-07-2005, 07:36 PM
First off, they've finally sorted the website. About time that ugly load of junk was given some thought. Again.. browns.. they LURRVE their browns... well I'm not complaining, I like natural tones - especially on the web.

The TV Spot. Yeah it was nice.

Scarecrow looked good. Simple and effective. Bale looked confident and in control. What I did like was a little hint of what I spoke about last post about unseen benfits of this costume - how it moves on screen, flexibility etc.. the long shot near a third through when he's holding on to the structure during the battle makes him look pretty agile. That's a good sign.

While I don't like the Batmobile design, I am happy that they are trying something a little different. Nice end scene.

Only real cripe (beyond my standard cossie moans) is Caine. Maybe it's because I'm British, but the Caine London and virtually non existant cockney (which I'm sure he must put on as a trademark) doesn't, for me, suit Alfred at first glance. I don't know why they chose a "working class" Alfred since he's become more of a Jeeves in his trademark, but again like the Batmobile, at least it's different. Not sure I like it yet, but it's a change, and that's good.

So pretty much my only disappointment remains - as of day one, the look of the suit. Everything else smells fresh and dynamic. Now they'd done up their site and the rest of the designs are looking confident I think it's showing great promise.

TimTwoFace
02-07-2005, 07:39 PM
Hey, here's a question: Does anyone who's not a Batman fan know who the Scarecrow was when they saw him? Did anyone have to explain it to their friends yet? If so, what was their response?I was at the bar and one of my friends leans over to me, saying:

"Hey Tim, who was the creepy-ass dude with the sac-cloth bag over his head?"

Tim: "That was the Scarecrow."

"Who?"

Tim: "The Scarecrow. He was in the comics and on the cartoon, too."

"So does this mean the Tin Man and Cowardly Lion are going to be in this movie?"

Tim: "If Schumacher was behind this movie I wouldn't totally rule it out."

* * * * * *

Anyway, yeah. It's a different look, totally different from the other acid-scarred, dome-wearing, mask-wearing, physically-deformed Bat-villains to make it to screen so far, and that'll help it greatly.

Who was the dude that punched the camera about halfway through the commercial, right after the Scarcrow and Rachel appeared? Just some random thug or one of Ra's' followers?

-Tim

BonyT
02-08-2005, 12:38 AM
What I did like was a little hint of what I spoke about last post about unseen benfits of this costume - how it moves on screen, flexibility etc.. the long shot near a third through when he's holding on to the structure during the battle makes him look pretty agile. That's a good sign.Yeah, I noticed that too. And there was one very brief scene where Bale, in the cowl, simply looks up & a little to the side; it's subtle, but it looked like a nice, comfortable, natural movement, which is a really encouraging sign re: the ability to turn his head while wearing the cowl. One of the articles BatKid linked talked about that. That alone should be such a huge step up from the previous Bat suits.



So pretty much my only disappointment remains - as of day one, the look of the suit. Everything else smells fresh and dynamic. Now they'd done up their site and the rest of the designs are looking confident I think it's showing great promise.The whole rubber suit look is my main disappointment; but I suspect I'm going to be happy to overlook that, if this movie makes good on the promise it seems to hold. Based on the script draft I saw and the evidence so far from film clips/stills, this movie is going to be far and away truest rendition of Batman yet among the live-action big-budget feature films.

Supremus
02-08-2005, 12:53 AM
This trailer was marginally better than the previous ones. I didn't like the "I seek the means to fight injustice..."-talkover, but the "does it come in black" bit was quite good, and it was the first time anything about this movie has made me smile. It still has some way to go, but if I push the two previous trailers out of my mind and just focus on this one, I am a little bit more optimistic about it.

James
02-08-2005, 11:30 AM
The whole rubber suit look is my main disappointment; but I suspect I'm going to be happy to overlook that, if this movie makes good on the promise it seems to hold. Based on the script draft I saw and the evidence so far from film clips/stills, this movie is going to be far and away truest rendition of Batman yet among the live-action big-budget feature films.
Same here mate. The suit irritates me simply as I feel it could have been better, but it's outweighed by the positives in the film. As we get to see more, the suit matters less.

That's the problem with early film commentary which some don't get. We are more nitpicky as we have such little concrete info to go on. Even scripts can go through massive rewrites, studio interferance, final cut edits and then further post edits based on test audiences. So the only definates we get to comment on are props, teasers and posters. I don't think initially these definate elements stood well, but now we have more to comment on I think we'll see a more united positive commentary behind the film from all sides.


This trailer was marginally better than the previous ones. I didn't like the "I seek the means to fight injustice..."-talkover, but the "does it come in black" bit was quite good, and it was the first time anything about this movie has made me smile. It still has some way to go, but if I push the two previous trailers out of my mind and just focus on this one, I am a little bit more optimistic about it.
I was bowled over by the comments in the trailer, but they didn't irk me. I can see where you are coming from. I liked this spot, but it wasn't a OMG!!!111 BATMAN!!11 for me. I look forward to it.. with bladder control though. I think Europeans are just more cynical and less hyped in general. You'll never see any audience reaction in a cinema aside from an occasional laugh. We are more subdued cinema goers and possibly more critical. I think that makes us stick out in our less that utterly positive comments. :)

cheungcheung
02-08-2005, 01:35 PM
yeah... apparently the Batman Begins superbowl commercial was the lowest rated (as in people were least excited over) on Sunday...

i can't say i am surprised...

i personally think the WB's ad department is doing a horrific job promoting this movie... none of the ads/trailers scream Batman at all or offer any bit of excitement...

it may also be the fact that the direction is a little weird and the colors are real bland...

but yeah, the only bit i enjoyed was the batmobile quip.

and the scarecrow looks weird..

a hat woulda been cool...

BatKid
02-08-2005, 03:05 PM
We're still 5 months away from the film, so don't rule out WB marketing the hell outta this. Once we hit March/April, things will really heat up and I can count on every single sidewalk we'd see ads for Batman Begins.

As for the trailer ratings in the newspaper (Newsday), that caught me off guard. It was the lowest rated movie trailer there, even Hitch beat it. :shrug: Odd thing is, besides that publication, everywhere else BB has been at least in the top 3 superbowl spots of the public polls in all the major film sites. Does anyone know if the ones in the newspaper are done by professionals? Perhaps that's why the reaction is so different.

Phantasm
02-08-2005, 03:49 PM
I can see where you are coming from. I liked this spot, but it wasn't a OMG!!!111 BATMAN!!11 for me. I look forward to it.. with bladder control though. I think Europeans are just more cynical and less hyped in general. You'll never see any audience reaction in a cinema aside from an occasional laugh. We are more subdued cinema goers and possibly more critical. I think that makes us stick out in our less that utterly positive comments. :)
You know...maybe you should try deriving pleasure from the...minor things shoved your way through life. It is damn fun.Makes you happy and doesn't hurt.:) But, I disgress.

James
02-08-2005, 09:07 PM
You know...maybe you should try deriving pleasure from the...minor things shoved your way through life. It is damn fun.Makes you happy and doesn't hurt.:) But, I disgress.
Hehe. I actually get my pleasure from understanding. Analysis. I have a gut reaction, why have I that reaction? What caused it? Is it something I can pin down? Is it a fair assessment? Can I back it up? Is there an alternative? What does this in the end mean? Is it something that should cause concern on a larger scale?

Do me it's the thinking - whether I love or loathe something that causes me pleasure.

I'm not a hype person. I just sit and decide objectively what I'm getting. The fact that a main element of imaginative media is visuals also makes it doubly interesting. I suppose the other point that I've always been into writing and analysis makes me worse.

Knowing I like or dislike something would be infuriating to me if I didn't know why I liked or disliked it.

While it may irritate, I'm always eager to explain because by explaining to you, I'm sort of explaining to myself.

As I've said to a few people of late in different genres, we are all fans, it's why we're here. How we approach our interests differ. Some get excited, some get cautious, some just like to say "IT@S GONNA B GREATE!!!!111" and some say "I like x, but I'm really concerned about y, let me give you an example of what issue this may create... etc..".

Whether overanalytical, over simplistic, over postive or over critical, all are elements that convey a love for a medium. Always good to remember however people react, they react out of their personal interest.

Fans. Love 'em or loathe 'em, you are one. Deal. :D

Supremus
02-08-2005, 10:25 PM
I think Europeans are just more cynical and less hyped in general. You'll never see any audience reaction in a cinema aside from an occasional laugh. We are more subdued cinema goers and possibly more critical. I think that makes us stick out in our less that utterly positive comments. :)I'm not sure. I have been to plenty of premieres , both in mainland Europe and the UK, and people still behaved like 3-year olds, and I myself was in an semi-extreme hype-mode for The Incredibles since I saw the first teaser trailer last year, and luckily it turned out great. Same with the Xmen movies, which I absolutely loved, so I don't think it's a US specific issue. I just think some people tend to get a little over-excited about things for no real reason at all. Most objective or sensible people will say that the Batman trailers haven't been particularly exciting by any standards, and the same would be the case with the F4 trailer, which still got a 10 out of 10 score by the vast majority of people who voted in a recent SuperheroHype poll. That's just nuts. isn't it? :)

Phantasm
02-08-2005, 10:38 PM
ooh and the Harry Potter permieres in UK are like screaming contests! All over some idiotic 13 yr old kids.:ack: This atleast is BATMAN!!!:D Apparently the first decdent looking Batman film in...forever! Its worth the over-excited screaming.;)

screw on head
02-08-2005, 10:38 PM
I can't say I'm very excited to see this film after seeing the Superbowl spot, but I do feel at ease, which is a great thing. Most important to me is I'm confident in the direction, cinematography, and tone I've been given a taste of in all these various previews. I loved that golden tone behind Batman's glove as he slipped it on, and that gorgeous sky as the bats flew across it. Scarecrow looked great, and I'm sure that's not the only look he'll be sporting, style wise. I'm happy to finally feel content with the direction this movie is going, it's nice...

witness
02-08-2005, 11:21 PM
I was at the bar and one of my friends leans over to me, saying:

"Hey Tim, who was the creepy-ass dude with the sac-cloth bag over his head?"

Tim: "That was the Scarecrow."

"Who?"

Tim: "The Scarecrow. He was in the comics and on the cartoon, too."

"So does this mean the Tin Man and Cowardly Lion are going to be in this movie?"

Tim: "If Schumacher was behind this movie I wouldn't totally rule it out."

* * * * * *

Anyway, yeah. It's a different look, totally different from the other acid-scarred, dome-wearing, mask-wearing, physically-deformed Bat-villains to make it to screen so far, and that'll help it greatly.

Who was the dude that punched the camera about halfway through the commercial, right after the Scarcrow and Rachel appeared? Just some random thug or one of Ra's' followers?

-Tim
ROFL Tim!!! That Schumacher line was hilarious. However, in Schumacher's defense, I really enjoyed his latest project, Phantom of the Opera.

To answer your question, I really don't know. I've paused that TV spot countless times from the official site and it just looks like the face is totally covered. The person is masked, but not Batman. My guess would have to be someone from the Society of Shadows. Maybe even Ra's himself? It wouldn't surprise me if they're going all "realistic" to make the "Demon's Head" look like a common thug. Of course, the last statement is pure speculation. I really think it's just a Society member.

James
02-09-2005, 07:45 AM
I'm not sure. I have been to plenty of premieres , both in mainland Europe and the UK, and people still behaved like 3-year olds, and I myself was in an semi-extreme hype-mode for The Incredibles since I saw the first teaser trailer last year, and luckily it turned out great. Same with the Xmen movies, which I absolutely loved, so I don't think it's a US specific issue. I just think some people tend to get a little over-excited about things for no real reason at all. Most objective or sensible people will say that the Batman trailers haven't been particularly exciting by any standards, and the same would be the case with the F4 trailer, which still got a 10 out of 10 score by the vast majority of people who voted in a recent SuperheroHype poll. That's just nuts. isn't it? :)
Ah you are referring to premieres. If you go to a "non fan" showing, audiences in the UK are very muted and non reactionary. Friday night openings especially where you have a mainstream and often "trendy" group.
People don't go wow at trailers either. 24 years of cinema going - all around the country (I've lived in many places) and the only time I've seen a reaction from an audience react - aside from occasional laughter - has been at a Back To the Future showing - and that was 13 years after it's release and it was a cult hit with mainstream audiences. Oh, and everyone were drunk.

I'm not sure how they do test audiences in the UK since mainstream audiences are utterly non responsive visually.

I think there is a difference. As a nation we are less emotional, I'm sure of that. We aren't as patriotic (especially politically) and we aren't as extreme. So it's not surprising are movie habits aren't as extreme unless you have an audience full of extreme people - like Harry Potter fans at a premiere.

I kind of like that - I have no interest in here the verbal ejaculations of other cinema goers when I see Batman Begins. I say shut up and let me watch the movie. It has sounds, I'm sure you can keep quite as not to spoil them.. ;)

BatKid
02-11-2005, 03:18 PM
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langden alger
02-11-2005, 05:08 PM
wow.:eek: just wow. those promo shots look great. he's enveloped in the cape!! i really hope we get that look in some actual scenes. i think that and the "city belongs to me" pose are two of the best i've seen of the costume thus far. this will truly be the movie batman costume that we've wanted for a long time.

BatKid
02-14-2005, 06:49 PM
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BatKid
02-14-2005, 06:50 PM
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Phantasm
02-14-2005, 06:56 PM
*squeals*:anime: weeeeeeeee!


This looks real good. I particularly like that shot of Jim!But doesn't Wayne Manor look too bright?

TimTwoFace
02-14-2005, 07:05 PM
Lookin' good. I love that shot of Gordon; seriously, Oldman looks perfect in this role.

-Tim

BatKid
02-14-2005, 07:09 PM
For the new page....


http://www2.warnerbros.com/batmanbegins/images/photogallery/image/BD-S-0805.jpg

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http://www2.warnerbros.com/batmanbegins/images/photogallery/image/BD-2764.jpg

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BonyT
02-14-2005, 09:13 PM
Lookin' good. I love that shot of Gordon; seriously, Oldman looks perfect in this role.

-TimAgreed. That Gordon shot looks like a panel from Batman: Year One brought over into real life.

...btw, how tall is Bale? I somehow had the idea that he was a little short for Batman, but it looks in some of those shots like he's maybe 6'1" or so, which is pretty close to right for the character.

Phantasm
02-14-2005, 09:47 PM
Agreed. That Gordon shot looks like a panel from Batman: Year One brought over into real life.

...btw, how tall is Bale? I somehow had the idea that he was a little short for Batman, but it looks in some of those shots like he's maybe 6'1" or so, which is pretty close to right for the character.
Yeah, exactly what I was thinking...only I keep wondering how he'd look if they had kept his bangs....Oldamn has his jelled back or something...

Bale is tall enough!And from what I can see, he's just got the right amount of demanding presence that Bruce/Batman so beautifully embodies.

Jeffrey
02-15-2005, 01:25 AM
In case you didn't know, Christian Bale is one of the only two actors to play Bats with the same height as in the comics. 6-feet 2-inches high.

You have to guess the other one on your own.;)

BonyT
02-15-2005, 10:54 AM
In case you didn't know, Christian Bale is one of the only two actors to play Bats with the same height as in the comics. 6-feet 2-inches high.6'2" -- yep, that is perfect.


You have to guess the other one on your own.;)Well, I know who the other one isn't :p . It isn't the guy who also doesn't have any chin at all -- and I mean NONE AT ALL -- in addition to not having enough height, or a deep enough voice, or a good enough build ...

Sorry, I don't mean to be so harsh on Keaton. I don't have anything against him; I'm just not a fan of tapping him to be Batman.

... And I don't actually know either Kilmer's or Clooney's height, but I'm guessing the other 6'2" was Clooney.

Wing Zero
02-15-2005, 02:00 PM
I'm thinking Val Kilmer was the other 6'2" guy, I remember clooney being as tall as robin in B&R?

BatKid
02-15-2005, 03:12 PM
...or a deep enough voice...
Gonna have to disagree there. Without his voice being like that, the ideal Batman voice (Conroy's) wouldn't even exist. Keaton was the first to actually have Bats in this deep, gritty voice. I think I remember Conroy even saying he was influenced by Keaton's portrayal.

Phantasm
02-15-2005, 03:41 PM
Gonna have to disagree there. Without his voice being like that, the ideal Batman voice (Conroy's) wouldn't even exist. Keaton was the first to actually have Bats in this deep, gritty voice. I think I remember Conroy even saying he was influenced by Keaton's portrayal.
From what I remember, which is also pretty vague considering the fact I basically tried to wipe my memory off of all things Keaton-batman related, he did not have a deep voice. His Batman had a hoarse whispery voice that made me wanna throw my shoe at the screen!

Robin
02-15-2005, 04:43 PM
http://www.legionsofgotham.org/BEGINSuktyfrCard1.jpgGod that is a huge cowl, and it does not look good on him in this picture. It's almost as ugly as that hideous LOG waterstamp. But this pictureof Gordon makes up for it. Almost:

http://www2.warnerbros.com/batmanbegins/images/photogallery/image/gordon_BD-5377.jpg

rrarbecy
02-15-2005, 05:44 PM
1.Finally Gordon isn't a fat push-over. (Gary Oldman playing a good guy!? :eek:)

2. I'm sure Kilmer was the other 6-2 batman.

3. I, personally, loved Keaton's Batman voice. Conroy's is definately the best, but Keaton had the best movie Batman voice. He was perfect all around in my opinion.

Robin2099
02-15-2005, 05:56 PM
2. I'm sure Kilmer was the other 6-2 batman.
You would be guessing wrong then. The only other actor to be the same size as Batman in the comics was Adam West. In fact here's prrof right here
With Batman Begins (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0372784/) (2005), he will become the seventh actor to play Batman and the only one since Adam West to stand the same height as Batman, who is 6-feet-2-inches tall according to the comic books.

BonyT
02-15-2005, 08:04 PM
From what I remember, which is also pretty vague considering the fact I basically tried to wipe my memory off of all things Keaton-batman related, he did not have a deep voice. His Batman had a hoarse whispery voice that made me wanna throw my shoe at the screen!Yeah, that was certainly my impression of Keaton's Batman voice as well. He seemed to realize that his voice wasn't deep enough, so he was trying to force it, and the result was a very artificial "bass falsetto" that just really grated on my ears, like nails on a blackboard. If Kevin Conroy was inspired by that ... well, all I can say is, he definitely perfected the technique in ways that Keaton never touched.

(And I've long been attempting that same memory wipe of Keaton-as-Batman myself :p. No offense, Keaton fans; I can't help it -- he just does NOT fit my image of Batman.)

But you are absolutely right, BatKid, that Conroy is the gold standard. It's tough to imagine anyone else fully measuring up.

And hey, after all, good or bad, Keaton's the past. Bale is Batman now, and it looks to me like there's some real promise in this new Batman flick. I'm looking forward to it. :D


God that is a huge cowl, and it does not look good on him in this picture.One thing that makes the cowl look bigger in that shot is how small the actual face opening is. I mentioned this earlier in the thread: I suspect that the logic behind that smaller face opening traces back to Bale's fairly pointed chin; narrowing the face opening has the effect of minimizing that -- of making his chin appear a bit broader, thus bringing him a little closer to the traditional square-jawed Batman ideal.


(Gary Oldman playing a good guy!? :eek:)Heh, heh -- I almost posted the same thought myself. The image of him that I can't shake is that profoundly evil vice cop in Leon: The Professional.

Road to Gotham
02-16-2005, 03:15 AM
Adam West is the other actor to play Batman who is 6'2.

So far I have like just about everything I have heard/seen about this movie.

Robin
02-16-2005, 12:07 PM
One thing that makes the cowl look bigger in that shot is how small the actual face opening is. I mentioned this earlier in the thread: I suspect that the logic behind that smaller face opening traces back to Bale's fairly pointed chin; narrowing the face opening has the effect of minimizing that -- of making his chin appear a bit broader, thus bringing him a little closer to the traditional square-jawed Batman ideal.His cowl does look huge, it looks to be bigger than the previous movie versions. Is there a chance we can see some comparison? That shot I posted just makes his body look so small compared to that cowl.

Spider-Man
02-20-2005, 02:21 PM
This was posted over at Newsarama (http://www.newsarama.com):

Christian Bale, star of Batman Begins, shocked and delighted audiences at WonderCon today with a guest appearance at the Warner Bros. panel, in which he revealed that his is committed to a total of three Batman movies.

In what was touted as his “one and only convention appearance to promote Batman Begins”, Bale wowed the audience with his passion, knowledge, and understanding of what he called an “American Myth”.

He called wearing the Bat-suit a “hell of an honor” and said that, while it was uncomfortably hot and the cowl was tight enough to give him constant headaches, he was able to “use that” to get the right amount of rage to be Batman.

He believes the script for Batman Begins is faithful to the work of creators like Frank Miller, Jeph Loeb, and Alex Ross and sees this movie not as a prequel or a sequel to the other Batman movies, but a “reinvention of the lore”.

Questioned about the highlights of playing Batman, Bale immediately mentioned the Batmobile.

Bale's take on Batman was that he would be a very dangerous, scary, monstrous individual when he wore the suit. No humor would come from Batman himself, although it might come from Alfred or other characters in the film. One fan asked Bale if he thought of Bruce Wayne and Batman as one person or two separate characters. Bale replied that he thought Batman was the real persona of Bruce Wayne, while the Wayne character was a mask that just allowed him to function in regular society. Many fans applauded Bale throughout the Q&A whenever it seemed that he really got the essential character of Batman.

At the end of the Q&A, they showed a new 6-minute clip of scenes from Batman Begins. The first part was a scene of young Bruce Wayne, before his parents are murdered, running around the Wayne estate with his childhood friend Rachel. Straight from the Frank Miller story, Bruce falls down an old well and gets attacked by bats. Later, Bruce is at a stage play with his parents and sees images that reminds him of the flying rats, and asks to be taken home. When his parents leave the play, they are killed by Joe Chill. The second part of the trailer showed a young Wayne getting intimidated by Carmine Falcone (Tom Wilkinson). In seeking the ability to scare and intimidate such people, Wayne travels to Tibet, and asks Ra's Al Ghul (Ken Watanabe) help in training. In the film, Ducard (played by Liam Neeson) works for Al Ghul and trains Wayne in martial arts. The third part of the trailer shows Wayne, now dressed as Batman, confronting the Scarecrow. The Scarecrow douses Batman with a liquid spray and sets him on fire. Batman leaps out of a tall building in an effort to extinquish the flames. There were other action scenes, and a threatening Ra's Al Ghul orders his "League" (somewhat like the old League of Assassins) to burn Gotham to the ground.

Phantasm
02-20-2005, 02:49 PM
Those scenes sound very interesting!I just can't wait.

BonyT
02-20-2005, 04:45 PM
Much of that (Batman being the real person & Bruce Wayne the "mask", Batman as "American myth") does show a definite influence from Ross and especially Miller. I particularly enjoyed the part about Bale perceiving this "not as a prequel or a sequel to the other Batman movies, but a 'reinvention of the lore'"; it's an intimation that the filmmakers are deliberately attempting to distance this movie from the often serious misreads on the character in the previous 4 films.

BonyT likes. :)

Beyond Batman
02-20-2005, 08:41 PM
Christian Bale, star of Batman Begins, shocked and delighted audiences at WonderCon today with a guest appearance at the Warner Bros. panel, in which he revealed that his is committed to a total of three Batman movies.
I was there at San Francisco's Wonder Con at the Moscone Center. I was lucky to grab a front seat at Christian Bale's panel. I was even luckier to win a raffle where I was able to shake his hand, share a few words, and get a personalized autograph photo of him.

The panel started with Bale being introduced. Almost instantly when he sat down the floor was open for a Q&A session. Questions and comments ranged from thanking him for being Batman and praise for his work on American Psycho, Equilibrium, Regin of Fire, the Machineist to every other film he's been in.

His answers were unrehearsed and seemed very true to heart. You can tell he takes his work very seriously and that his manner was relaxed yet very professional.

On a few occasions he was asked what he thought about the previous Batman's before him from West to Clooney and he said he didn't want to draw reference from the previous Batman films. He wanted to do Batman as he saw it from the graphic novels he read... most notibly Frank Miller's Year One. He did point out that he viewed Adam West's Batman as a parody of the character, and that Batman was never meant to make people laugh. He felt Batman was a deep and dark creature with a level of rage and anger being balanced by his humanity.

Bale mentioned the cowl was an honor as well as a pain to wear. He said it was worn so tightly against his head that twenty minutes in the suit, he'd start developing pains and headaches. Bale, opting not to complain, decided to use this pain and help it fuel Batman's rage and darkness.

Asked about how he was chosen for the role, Bale said he still had to sreen test for the part. Bale decided to act out an "extreme" version of what he thought the Batman represented. That and his previous work, attributed to him getting the role. Before Christian Bale even knew they were making a new Batman film Bale said:

"When I was working with the director of Equilibrium, the director said... one day, you're going to be Batman." Bale replied, "how much do you want to bet that won't happen?" Bale then looked at the audience and said he was now short $500. The audience laughed and cheered.

The end of the panel was concluded with an eight minute clip of Batman Begins.

In my honest opinion, from what I've seen... if Batman Begins is not a success, then I don't know what Batman film ever will be. This film is the best representation of the Dark Knight I've ever seen on the big screen and I can't wait for it to come out.

BonyT
02-20-2005, 09:30 PM
That is pretty cool -- thanks for the report, Beyond Batman.

On a few occasions he was asked what he thought about the previous Batman's before him from West to Clooney and he said he didn't want to draw reference from the previous Batman films. He wanted to do Batman as he saw it from the graphic novels he read... most notibly Frank Miller's Year One.Again, the fact that he "didn't want to draw reference from the previous Batman films" and that he wants to take it more from sources like Miller is a really encouraging sign to me. It sounds like Bale is the right man for the job from the perspective of being someone who gets the character. The more I hear, the more heartened I am that he's going to do honor to the role.

BatKid
02-21-2005, 12:01 PM
Someone pointed out this full transcript (http://romanticmovies.about.com/od/batman/a/batman022005.htm) of the recent Bale interview at the con. Check it out, it's 4 pages long.

Robin
02-21-2005, 01:40 PM
So Bale is signed on for three movies? That is really comforting to hear. Even if the director's change for each one, it'll be nice to see a familar face under the mask for each go around.

Silly McGooses
02-21-2005, 03:33 PM
Let's just hope it makes enough money for WB to even want a sequel. $180 million is a huge budget.

Beyond Batman
02-21-2005, 06:53 PM
Let's just hope it makes enough money for WB to even want a sequel. $180 million is a huge budget.
Bale said that "it depends on you guys [the viewing audience], if whether you like it... or not."

TimTwoFace
02-21-2005, 07:04 PM
I'm sure this movie will definitely make back its budget at the box office alone; throw in all the extra merchandise, and I'm sure a sequel or two are going to be in the works.

The only thing that may kill this franchise is the WB, if they get cold feet when parents complain about how Batman is too dark for their kids to watch. It happened after BATMAN RETURNS, it can happen again - though I hope not.

-Tim

Scythemantis
02-21-2005, 08:57 PM
I agree that this does look creepy..but in a deformed kind of way. I was expecting it to be creepy in a "holy crap! that guy's evil!" type of thing. :yawn:

If you mean an evil, threatening, vicious sort of look (slitted red eyes, etc.), I have to say it's almost a peeve of mine that that's so popular for monsters and villains these days. I don't find it creepy at all. It can be cool, but it's not creepy. The "eerie and deformed" style of villain/monster is far scarier and more atmospheric to me, and I'm glad to see it slowly returning.

DarkAngel
02-21-2005, 10:19 PM
Someone pointed out this full transcript (http://romanticmovies.about.com/od/batman/a/batman022005.htm) of the recent Bale interview at the con. Check it out, it's 4 pages long.Great read. Thanks for the link. The one thing I think we can say for sure is Bale understands the character. The more I hear him comment on the movie and the character, the more excited I get about seeing his performance. Everything sounds perfect, the sole possible exception being the costume, though even with that, based on Bale's words, its sounds fine. Given the way wearing the costume has affected him, it might be the best thing that the costume is of the heavier, armored variety since it seems to have him channeling all the right attitudes and aggressions.

Robin
02-22-2005, 12:54 PM
I'm sure this movie will definitely make back its budget at the box office alone; throw in all the extra merchandise, and I'm sure a sequel or two are going to be in the works.The movie should haveno problem making about $200 - 250 million dollars, but I can't see it doing the $400 million business that Spider-Man did. That was the right movie at the right time. Some may say the same about this movie, but I don't think it will do as good. I see it toping out at around $350 million, which should make WB more than happy.

DR.MID-NITE
02-23-2005, 04:37 PM
Does anyone know who is doing the soundtrack for the new Batman movie??

Knight
02-23-2005, 06:01 PM
Does anyone know who is doing the soundtrack for the new Batman movie??
Yeah I was personally hoping for Prince :D

TimTwoFace
02-23-2005, 10:24 PM
I kept reading reports that Green Day would be supplying a song for the movie, but now I'm unsure if these reports were actually true or not. We'll see shortly, I hope.

-Tim

BatKid
02-23-2005, 11:05 PM
That rumor's been debunked by Green Day reps.

Damien
02-24-2005, 12:33 AM
That rumor's been debunked by Green Day reps. Good.
I rather it not have any kind of soundtrack, except maybe something during the credits to stick on the end of the score (like "I Never Even Told You" from Mask of the Phantasm).
Speaking of the music, those strings in the beginning of the T.V. spot...is that from the score or from a past movie? I hope it's from this movie. It really set the tone.

BatKid
02-24-2005, 04:07 AM
Speaking of the music, those strings in the beginning of the T.V. spot...is that from the score or from a past movie? I hope it's from this movie. It really set the tone.
Unfortunately, it's from a different movie. I too loved the sound of it, but none of the scores are recorded yet. They're reportedly starting on that around late March/early April. Hopefully the tone will be just as good, maybe better.

Stu
02-24-2005, 05:50 PM
Who's doing the score? Since I doubt they'd get Elfman again, the guy who did Daredevil would be more than exceptable.

Beyond Batman
02-24-2005, 06:15 PM
Spider-Man 1 and 2 had great soundtracks. I hope the variety of music is similar to the Spidey soundtracks. I like the Danny Elfman stuff, but it's hard rocking out to musicals. I hope they include a good variaty of contemporary stuff.

BTW, (although the rumor has come and gone) what's wrong with Green Day's Boulevard of Broken Dreams? Is it because it's too mainstream? Or because it lived on TRL for awhile? Personally, I like the song, and wouldn't mind it on the soundtrack. If you listen to the lyrics, it would be very easy for them to make TV spots with that song.

BatKid
02-24-2005, 06:59 PM
Who's doing the score? Since I doubt they'd get Elfman again, the guy who did Daredevil would be more than exceptable. James Newton Howard and Hans Zimmer

Spider-Man 1 and 2 had great soundtracks. I hope the variety of music is similar to the Spidey soundtracks. I like the Danny Elfman stuff, but it's hard rocking out to musicals. I hope they include a good variaty of contemporary stuff.

BTW, (although the rumor has come and gone) what's wrong with Green Day's Boulevard of Broken Dreams? Is it because it's too mainstream? Or because it lived on TRL for awhile? Personally, I like the song, and wouldn't mind it on the soundtrack. If you listen to the lyrics, it would be very easy for them to make TV spots with that song. I think the problem with using that song is by the time the soundtrack is out, that song would be very overplayed and has run its course that people would most likely just skip that track. It's a good song, yes....but I'd prefer newer songs.

Beyond Batman
02-24-2005, 07:20 PM
As long as Ashlee Simpson doesn't touch the soundtrack with a fifty foot pole then I'm a happy camper. :D

Damien
02-25-2005, 12:24 PM
I think the problem with using that song is by the time the soundtrack is out, that song would be very overplayed By the time last week came out, that song was overplayed.
I still think the best idea is just to have a score. Adding in mainstream bands and songs would just cheapen the tone of the film, and there's absolutely no point in having soundtracks that are "Inspired By" the movie.

Storm
02-25-2005, 02:24 PM
Source: Superhero Hype (http://www.superherohype.com/news/batmannews.php?id=2643)


'King' wrote in with a bit from a Christina Ricci interview in which she talks about a sequel to Batman Begins:

In an interview with the Central Westchester newspaper, for "Cursed", Christina Ricci says - following a long plug for her guest appearance on "Joey" and how it was a dream come true, blah, blah - that she would love to be involved in, the next BATMAN film.

"I heard they want to bring Catwoman into the next one. I so loved Michelle Pfeiffer's performance in the original one, and I think if they want someone to play the lead role - it's her. However, if they're looking for a younger Catwoman, someone more around Christian's (Bale) age - I'm available!", she gushes. "It would be great. That suit, the whip....wow. I will definitely have to get my agent onto that one".


Comments?

I haven't really thought of Ms. Ricci as a possible contender for the role of Selina Kyle but as I ponder about it I can actually see her as Catwoman in a Batman Begins sequel. She has the look down pat. She can be dark yet sexual nature like Kyle. I hope the producers take Ricci's interest into consideration and actually make Catwoman rock again.

- Fray

TimTwoFace
02-25-2005, 03:59 PM
I'm sure that Catwoman will be one of the returning villains in future Batman sequels, but as far as I heard, only the Joker and Two-Face were definite considerations for the second and third movie thus far.

I wouldn't mind the character appearing, of course - there's enough room for all three of these villains in the two further sequels that Bale (and, I also believe, Caine) are signed on for. Ricci in the catsuit? Ehhh...possibly. I know it's something I would have to get used to, but I could deal with it. :)

-Tim

Damien
02-25-2005, 11:39 PM
Christina Ricci? Never ever crossed my mind for Catwoman, but it could work, sure. I'd still like to see Charisma Carpenter, not because she reminds me of Selina Kyle, but because Kyle occasionally reminds me of Carpenter. But yeah, Ricci, hey.

Robin
03-01-2005, 11:08 AM
Press Release:

Batman Begins Coming to IMAX June 17

Source: IMAX Corporation, Warner Bros. Pictures
March 1, 2005

IMAXiCorporation and Warner Bros (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/topnews.php?id=8554#).iPictures today announced that Batman Begins (http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=5020) will beisimultaneously released to IMAX(R) and conventional 35mm theatres on June 17th, 2005. The film, which explores the originsiof the Batman legend and the Dark Knight's emergence as a force for good in Gotham, will be digitally re-mastered intoithe unparalleled image and sound quality of The IMAX Experience(R) with proprietary IMAX DMR(R) (Digital Re-mastering)itechnology for the IMAX release.iWarner Bros.iPictures will be the exclusive distributor of Batman Begins (http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=5020) toiIMAX theatresiworldwide.

"Moviegoersilove to experience our event movies in IMAX theatres and filmmakersirave about how their work appears onithe IMAX canvas," said DaniFellman, President of DomesticiDistribution at Warner Bros. Pictures. "We're excitedito make our eighth film commitment to IMAX withi'Batman Begins: The IMAX Experience'."

"This filmiwill be the latest in a series of fantastic Warner Bros. Picturesireleases which have helped change the way moviegoers experience Hollywood movies (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/topnews.php?id=8554#)," said IMAX Co-Chairmeniand Co-CEOs Richard L.iGelfond and Bradley J. Wechsler. "Warner Bros. Picturesihas been an instrumental partner in establishing this trend and advancing the IMAX theatreinetwork as the newest distribution platform for Hollywood content."

Added Greg Foster,iIMAX Chairman and President of Filmed Entertainment, "We are extremely pleased with how our 2005 commercial film slate hasitaken shape and believe 'Batman Begins' will be a perfect way to kick off the blockbuster summerifilm season."

Batman Begins (http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=5020) isidirected by Christopher Nolan, director of the critically acclaimed films Memento and Insomnia, produced byiEmma Thomas, Charles Roven and Larry Franco, and stars Christian Bale as Bruce Wayne (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/topnews.php?id=8554#)/Batman. Theistory finds the disillusioned industrial heiriBruce Wayne, in the wake ofihis parents' murder, traveling the world to seek the means to fight injustice and turn fear againstithose who prey on the fearful. He returns to Gotham and unveils his alter-ego:iBatman, a masked crusader who uses his strength, intellect and an arrayiof high tech deceptions to fight the sinisteriforces that threatenithe city.

Other membersiof the film's all star cast include Michael Caine (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/topnews.php?id=8554#) as Bruce Wayne/Batman'sitrusted butler, Alfred; Liam Neeson as Wayne's mentor; Katie Holmes asiRachel Dawes, a childhood friend of Wayne's; Gary Oldman as Lieutenant James Gordon; Cillian Murphy asiDr. Jonathan Crane; Tom Wilkinson as Carmine Falcone; Rutger Hauerias the CEO of Wayne Enterprises; Ken Watanabe as the villainous Ra's AliGhul and Morgan Freeman (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/topnews.php?id=8554#) as Lucius Fox.iThe executive producers of Batman Begins (http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=5020) areiBenjamin Melniker and Michael Uslan. Screenplay is by Christopher Nolan and David Goyer,iandithe film is based on characters created by Bob Kane,ipublished by DCiComics.

BatKid
03-04-2005, 05:18 PM
http://img14.exs.cx/img14/8199/newbb4wc.jpg

http://img14.exs.cx/img14/8606/newbb20zb.jpg

http://img14.exs.cx/img14/3571/newbb4big7sg.jpg

http://img14.exs.cx/img14/3802/newbb3big1dd.jpg

TimTwoFace
03-04-2005, 08:55 PM
Those are pretty sweet. The shot of Batman being enveloped by the crowd looks wicked. And...is that the Scarecrow on a horse? It's THE LONG HALLOWEEN all over again! :)

-Tim

Phantasm
03-04-2005, 10:52 PM
NICE!

I am really liking what I see so far...

Salvor
03-05-2005, 08:39 AM
Wow. I didn't think much of the suit at first, but the more I see pictures from the movie, the more I think it looks pretty darn good! I have great hopes this movie is going to ROCK!

James
03-05-2005, 04:30 PM
One thing I will say about the suit, looking at the latest spurge of pics from Batkid, is that the suit has a real Alex Ross feel to it. Yeah, hardly a revelation there, but just something that hadn't hit me before. The one by the Batsignal especially.

Not overkeen on the horsey Scarecrow pic. My gut reaction is that such a villian image should remain in more macarbe and sinister settings. The horse seems a little.. "comicesque" in idea.. and I don't know how that really translates... well, speculation anyhow.. have to see it in context to the actual film.

In reference to the suit, again, looks nice flexible again in that fight shot. Can you imagine them doing that with Keaton's suit? They'd have needed a folk lift truck!

Casey Mack
03-05-2005, 04:34 PM
One thing I will say about the suit, looking at the latest spurge of pics from Batkid, is that the suit has a real Alex Ross feel to it. Yeah, hardly a revelation there, but just something that hadn't hit me before. The one by the Batsignal especially.

Not overkeen on the horsey Scarecrow pic. My gut reaction is that such a villian image should remain in more macarbe and sinister settings. The horse seems a little.. "comicesque" in idea.. and I don't know how that really translates... well, speculation anyhow.. have to see it in context to the actual film.

In reference to the suit, again, looks nice flexible again in that final shot. Can you imagine them doing that with Keaton's suit? They'd have needed a folk lift truck!
I can't imagine that idiot Keaton doing anything Batman like............ Now Val Kilmer was the best Batman we got so far. Not to Mention Batman Forever had the coolest Batman entrance EVER!

BonyT
03-05-2005, 07:33 PM
One thing I will say about the suit, looking at the latest spurge of pics from Batkid, is that the suit has a real Alex Ross feel to it. Yeah, hardly a revelation there, but just something that hadn't hit me before. The one by the Batsignal especially.Interesting that you should say that, because Ross actually says in his Mythology that his version of the costume is largely a reaction against the basic direction taken for the Batsuit by the feature films:
Alex Ross from Mythology
And the [Batman] movies have gone so over the top with effects, gadgets, glitz, etc. So I went lo-tech with him, and took steps they wouldn't--the fact that, in the films, he has all his riches so conspicuously displayed, to me, runs counter to hiding his identity. My approach is to not show any of the trappings, as was the case with the very first version of him in 1939--no Batmobile, no Batplane. I love all that stuff, but it takes the focus away from the character himself, which is what interests me. It should all be mystery: nobody even knows if he has a plane because no one's ever seen it. He has a rope, an unmarked car, a few crude weapons. He just appears, which is even scarier.I know what you mean, SJJ, about the cues from Ross in the Begins costume, like the Bat symbol on the chest. (And I heartily applaud that, btw, because for my money, Ross captured the timeless, iconic Bat symbol; indeed, he has an amazing visual sense, and has given us, I think, the most truly "classic" definitive versions of many of the characters & their symbols.) And I do think this film is doing much more of what Ross was talking about (focus on Batman himself, de-emphasis of the Bat-toys) than any of the feature films so far. But when it comes to the costume itself ... this film would still have to be said to show much more lineage from Burton than from Ross. (If I remember correctly, BatKid once told us that echoing the previous films' Batsuits was one of WB's mandates to the BB filmmakers.) The basic rubberized hi-tech armor look, despite certain little nods to Alex, is ultimately just not very "Ross-ian."

... Now naturally, the Batman: Dead End costume, he would love. ;)

Patrick Bateman
03-05-2005, 09:04 PM
I can't imagine that idiot Keaton doing anything Batman like............ Now Val Kilmer was the best Batman we got so far. Not to Mention Batman Forever had the coolest Batman entrance EVER! Wha...?

While I don't agree with the idea of Kilmer being the best thusfar, or Batman Forever even being a decent movie in the first place, but I can accept that is your opinion.

However, the "idiot Keaton" thing seems a bit hostile, especially considering the man is incredibly talented, and played the Burton version of Batman perfectly. Not the true Batman, but the Burton Batman. Keaton was excellent.

James
03-05-2005, 09:24 PM
I can't imagine that idiot Keaton doing anything Batman like............ Now Val Kilmer was the best Batman we got so far. Not to Mention Batman Forever had the coolest Batman entrance EVER!
Each to their own.. the beginning of Batman Forever spelled the end of my serious interest to the Batman franchise. And as for Kilmer, IMO, great as he was in Tombstone, he has looks but little else in this film - it just felt like ever line he delivered was meant for Keaton.. which it probably was. Possibly not his fault, but I always felt he was simply a stand in for Keaton's Bruce Wayne than had any chance to make the role his own.

Keaton was - and still is my favourite portrayal of Batman. Maybe not a comics Batman, but a great Batman nevertheless. I'm not too interested in a good Batman being as close as possible to the comics Batman. Granted, for Batman Begins, I think it's a rational take to move him close both physically and characteristically to the comics, but for my ideal movie Batman I like the step into something a little different.. which was something both "Batman" and "Batman & Robin" provided to a varying degree of success... ><


know what you mean, SJJ, about the cues from Ross in the Begins costume, like the Bat symbol on the chest. (And I heartily applaud that, btw, because for my money, Ross captured the timeless, iconic Bat symbol; indeed, he has an amazing visual sense, and has given us, I think, the most truly "classic" definitive versions of many of the characters & their symbols.) And I do think this film is doing much more of what Ross was talking about (focus on Batman himself, de-emphasis of the Bat-toys) than any of the feature films so far. But when it comes to the costume itself ... this film would still have to be said to show much more lineage from Burton than from Ross. (If I remember correctly, BatKid once told us that echoing the previous films' Batsuits was one of WB's mandates to the BB filmmakers.) The basic rubberized hi-tech armor look, despite certain little nods to Alex, is ultimately just not very "Ross-ian."
I think for me it's the sculpt of the costume and particularly the mask which reminds me of Ross. Maybe because Ross' Batman was very sculpted as well - and black. I'll now be despised once more, but I was never that keen on Ross' depiction of Batman as well drawn as it was.

Certainly I think getting away from Battoys is good, I've yet to really see any proof that this film is going to do that. Taking "Batman" as the "Burton" movie, his toys weren't that crazy. Two forms of grapple, some smoke bombs, a Batarang, a Batmobile and a Batwing. Considering that the Batmobile is as techy as before in this one, one shot here seems to show off a grapple gun (I'm guessing), we've seen a Batarang in the teaser... so we're not looking so toyed from Burtons...

I know I'm nitpicking a little as after "Batman" we really went toy crazy... and I suppose "Batman" did really nail the batgrapple as being a part of Batman's gear.. which is really wasn't previously.. Nevertheless, I too am hoping that this version will keep toys to a minimum - judging by the promotions going for a more natural mood in colours and montage, I reckon this might be the case.

We'll have to see. Initially I felt this was going to be very Battoy.. the Batmobile being very techy, the suit being again very rubber armour... but aside from these two elements and as more details emerge, I am now more hopeful we will have a less techy Batman.

Casey Mack
03-05-2005, 09:32 PM
Wha...?

While I don't agree with the idea of Kilmer being the best thusfar, or Batman Forever even being a decent movie in the first place, but I can accept that is your opinion.

However, the "idiot Keaton" thing seems a bit hostile, especially considering the man is incredibly talented, and played the Burton version of Batman perfectly. Not the true Batman, but the Burton Batman. Keaton was excellent.
Heres my Michael Keaton beef, he was to old and he was so short and didn't even look like he lifted any weights. We did not see one scene showing him working out, or training. He was great when it comes to voice and attuide but he was to skinny and out of shape. I was just not convinced that liitle skinny man, travaled the world and was a 5 foot 11 Batman[ Batman is 6 foot 2]. He should of pumped up alittle to play Batman, he didn't even have to get huge just get some muscle.

Patrick Bateman
03-05-2005, 10:18 PM
There was the upside down morning workout. And honestly, when did Val Kilmer ever train on-screen?

BatKid
03-05-2005, 10:54 PM
http://www.pittarelli.com/bb1.jpg

It just keeps getting better and better...

Phantasm
03-05-2005, 11:06 PM
http://www.pittarelli.com/bb1.jpg

It just keeps getting better and better...WOW!
Now I'm immensely awed!
Bale just rocks so hard! I watched Equilibrium today. Great film. That inscrutible face that Bale wore throughout the film is just...wow.I'm positive and its apparent in the pics so far, he'll make n awesome Batman.:anime: :anime:
I am SOO excited!!
Just look at his eyes!WICKED!:) :)

Oh!and this is my new desktop wallpaper!yey!

But isn't there simply too much light?!

Casey Mack
03-06-2005, 12:12 AM
There was the upside down morning workout. And honestly, when did Val Kilmer ever train on-screen?
I think their was one scene in the Bat-cave after Robin pulled him out of that pile of rocks. but folks Batman Forever had the best Batman entrance ever! the scene when Batman jumps down through the window at that Party the riddler was holding.[classic]

TimTwoFace
03-06-2005, 02:15 AM
I think their was one scene in the Bat-cave after Robin pulled him out of that pile of rocks. but folks Batman Forever had the best Batman entrance ever! the scene when Batman jumps down through the window at that Party the riddler was holding.[classic]
Granted, I thought that entrance was cool - even though the "crashing through the skylight" entrance was already used in the first Batman movie.

Anyway, that new pic looks wicked, despite being so bright. :p

-Tim

BatKid
03-06-2005, 10:50 AM
The pic had to be removed, but someone saved it thankfully...with a little caption :sweat:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v660/TheBatman_209/Baadasssss2.gif

Notice how this is the first pic of the cowl where the mouthhole is considerably larger than the previous pics...

Damien
03-06-2005, 11:08 AM
Love the pictures. All of them. Every single one. That one with the crowd...is that Blackgate?

I have to touch on a couple issues, though. For one, "Burton's Batman" isn't really that far off from what Batman, the character, is supposed to be.
And second, to be fair, he was able to crouch down considerably in Batman Returns, so the suit must've had some flex to it.

Ah man, I love this last picture.

TimTwoFace
03-06-2005, 11:54 AM
Love the pictures. All of them. Every single one. That one with the crowd...is that Blackgate?
Either that or Arkham Asylum. I could've sworn I saw a guy in a straight-jacket in that mosh pit, somewhere.

-Tim

Stu
03-06-2005, 04:03 PM
Not impressed with Scarecrow. He doesn't look scary in the slightest.. he looks almost foolish. Hopefull he's got some creepy dialouge/music/presence because the visual isn't doing it for me.

Batman looks slightly better. Seems they've tweaked his mask slightly too and it looks better for it. Love the image of him being surrounded.

Still trying not to get too hyped for this... I'm iffy on a lot of things. Hopefully we'll get an unGodly bad ass trailer soon.

BonyT
03-06-2005, 04:22 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v660/TheBatman_209/Baadasssss2.gif

Notice how this is the first pic of the cowl where the mouthhole is considerably larger than the previous pics...I would much prefer a larger face opening ... but to be honest, I have a hunch somebody simply photoshopped this shot a bit, considering all of the previous (and often official movie site) pics which establish a much smaller face opening. And the vertical line of the face opening in this pic doesn't look quite right to me -- does anybody else get that sense looking at it? It just angles back too much from top to bottom. A cowl with a genuinely wider face opening should be wider along the top edge of the opening as well (the horizontal line running from the level of the bottom of the nose), not just the bottom edge (the jaw line).

BatKid, what do you know about the source for this picture?

One thing we have to bear in mind that is that what we have here is definitely NOT the shot as it originally appeared: If nothing else, somebody has altered it by adding the caption. I suspect whoever did that also altered the face opening on the cowl a bit.

langden alger
03-06-2005, 07:11 PM
just to give a heads up, i was surprised at my local toys r us here in philly to find the first piece of batman begins merchandise on shelves...the "batman begins boardgame' a game for younger kids featuring 4 small painted batman figurines/game pieces in various poses plus a bunch of 'leauge of shadows' ninja figurines..the object is to save gotham city from the ninja attack...it's very similar to the collectible star wars board games from the past few years..it was going for $20.00 i didn't pick it up and didn't have a means of taking a picture, but i imagine theres pics up already online by now anywayz..

BatKid
03-06-2005, 07:36 PM
I would much prefer a larger face opening ... but to be honest, I have a hunch somebody simply photoshopped this shot a bit, considering all of the previous (and often official movie site) pics which establish a much smaller face opening. And the vertical line of the face opening in this pic doesn't look quite right to me -- does anybody else get that sense looking at it? It just angles back too much from top to bottom. A cowl with a genuinely wider face opening should be wider along the top edge of the opening as well (the horizontal line running from the level of the bottom of the nose), not just the bottom edge (the jaw line).

BatKid, what do you know about the source for this picture?

One thing we have to bear in mind that is that what we have here is definitely NOT the shot as it originally appeared: If nothing else, somebody has altered it by adding the caption. I suspect whoever did that also altered the face opening on the cowl a bit. Here's the original image:

http://img214.exs.cx/img214/4740/618rk.jpg

The source of the image is the same guy that did the Scarecrow sketches that were seen a few weeks ago that based his pics on these recently released batch. He's apparently getting sued by WB for making money of these sketches, so he's retaliating by putting out 44 unreleased images.

He was asked about the mouth opening, but simply said it was unmanipped. So there ya go.

Casey Mack
03-06-2005, 08:04 PM
I wonder if Seal the singer who song "Kissed by a Rose" for the Batman Forever soundtrack will do the Batman Begins Soundtrack?

TimTwoFace
03-06-2005, 09:33 PM
I wonder if Seal the singer who song "Kissed by a Rose" for the Batman Forever soundtrack will do the Batman Begins Soundtrack?
Not that I would mind, because I liked that song - but I doubt it. Then again, as far as sound goes, I'm more concerned with an awesome original score, rather than the artists that WB snags to put on a soundtrack "influenced" by the movie. (By far and large, I don't like the Batman soundtracks thus far - there were some good exceptions with U2, Seal, SOME of Prince's stuff, and the Smashing Pumpkins, but most of the songs were rather forgettable.)

They've all been hit-and-miss thus far; the best song written specifically for the movie was the second one the Pumpkins did on the B&R soundtrack, in my opinion; second best would be the one song "Face to Face" by Siouxse and the Banshees (sp?) in BATMAN RETURNS.

-Tim

BonyT
03-07-2005, 12:21 AM
Here's the original image:

http://img214.exs.cx/img214/4740/618rk.jpg

The source of the image is the same guy that did the Scarecrow sketches that were seen a few weeks ago that based his pics on these recently released batch. He's apparently getting sued by WB for making money of these sketches, so he's retaliating by putting out 44 unreleased images.

He was asked about the mouth opening, but simply said it was unmanipped. So there ya go.You know, now that I look back at some of the older pics, I think I may have spoken too soon about the face opening having been altered in the pic you posted, BatKid. It doesn't look far off at all the one in the pic below:

http://www.zanfoto.com/tmp/batman.jpg

I guess the angle of view can make a big difference (as this shot illustrates, I think: Take a look at how different the width of the face opening looks in the head-on shot vs. the one at an angle).

BatKid
03-07-2005, 05:10 PM
Well, the release of the whopping 44 new pictures has begun today:

http://img209.exs.cx/img209/1471/batman01sized9mh.jpg

http://img209.exs.cx/img209/459/batman02sized4ax.jpg

Phantasm
03-07-2005, 05:29 PM
LOL!

I love Batkid's posts!:anime:
YAY!For more Bale/Batman pics!And their 'Badassness!':sweat: :anime: :D

But REALLY now, the neutral brightness of them makes me wanna whine for more classic DARK Batman pics!

Damien
03-07-2005, 06:47 PM
I love the picture of him in the hallway. If that emblem were darker than the suit, the whole thing would be near perfect.
Crane seems to have taken an unhealthy dose of his own chemicals.
Also, is that guy hanging upside down the guy from the end of the trailer? If so, I have a friend who'd be thrilled. That's what he predicted for that guy. He was actually hoping for something identical to The Dark Knight Returns, but I think he'll like this.

Either that or Arkham Asylum. I could've sworn I saw a guy in a straight-jacket in that mosh pit, somewhere.That's what I thought, too, but looking more closely at some of those people, they look really pedestrian, so I'm not sure what the heck is supposed to be happening or even where they are.

Spider-Man
03-07-2005, 06:58 PM
So is he releasing these everyday? I thought he did sketches for the movie and should be able to retain the rights that they are his artwork. I feel bad for the situation but if we're getting to see 44 images then bring it on. I can't wait to see what else is released. That shot of Batman in the hallway is excellent! And the symbol on his chest is surprisingly clear.

BatKid
03-07-2005, 07:24 PM
The guy being hung upside down is Detective Flass. Fans will remember him from the earlier Batman stories. As you can see, he's being interrogated for information regarding Scarecrow.

As for that mob pic, they've been gassed with fear gas making Batman look like a demon of some sort. Watch BTAS' "Nothing to Fear" to get what I mean. That is why people that are crowding him are not all Arkham inmates, but regular people as well.

TimTwoFace
03-07-2005, 08:53 PM
These are great shots, but I gotta admit - they are kind of bright. I haven't seen many pics that are totally "noirish"...but I'm still excited, regardless. It's a different look for a different movie, after all.

-Tim

BonyT
03-07-2005, 10:15 PM
Wow, BatKid, thanks for continuing to come through with the great Batman Begins shots & info to keep things interesting while we wait for the film. :)

One thing that strikes me about the cape they're using for this movie is that it looks like it'll get a lot more movement, flowing behind Batman in interesting ways, than the leather ones from the previous films. I know some have expressed disapproval of the look of the Begins cape; but I think it may help achieve something closer to the highly animated cape that we often see in the comic book panels.

BatKid
03-08-2005, 03:04 PM
More goodies:

http://img185.exs.cx/img185/3620/batman06sized5ra.jpg

http://img185.exs.cx/img185/4999/batman04sized8hl.jpg

Phantasm
03-08-2005, 03:57 PM
:eek: :eek: :eek:

ITS GORDON!!!!!!!!!!
YAY!!!!!!!!

BUT isn't it too bright?!:confused: :confused: :confused:

And Batman in the rain...wow...

BatKid
03-09-2005, 03:03 PM
http://img64.exs.cx/img64/4519/batman08sized2uv.jpg

http://img64.exs.cx/img64/8979/batman07sized2vn.jpg

Phantasm
03-09-2005, 05:27 PM
That cowl is REALLY scary.

The Penguin
03-09-2005, 07:05 PM
I wouldn't worry too much about the brightness or darkness of a picture. Many are probably brightened so you can see what is going on in the scene. I bet the movie itself will be much darker.

TimTwoFace
03-09-2005, 08:12 PM
That cowl is REALLY scary.
I especially like thinking that is, in fact, Batman's face, and that big gaping hole for the chin is actually his mouth, wide open screaming, anime-style. :D

These ones aren't that amazing, but are good all the same. :)

-Tim

Spider-Man
03-10-2005, 12:18 AM
I still like what I'm seeing from these pictures. This is looking to be the best live action interpretation of Batman yet. While the two newest pictures weren't all great what we've been getting for the past few days has been some great stuff. I hope they keep rolling out the images for the next few days. I would mind seeing another shot or two of Liam Neeson and Ken Wantanabee.

Damien
03-10-2005, 01:21 PM
First picture: The Batmobile is going over the patrol car. Awesome.

Second picture: "All I want is a pair of pants!"

BatKid
03-10-2005, 03:04 PM
Bad news. The site hosting the new pics have apparently been told by WB to take it down. The guy releasing the pics...well he's disappeared. What does this mean? Either he's going under the radar so to speak until it's clear, or he's been caught by WB.

Either way, don't expect any new pics soon. :(

TimTwoFace
03-10-2005, 08:01 PM
Aww - well then, I hope we get some "official" and legal promo pics some time soon. :)

-Tim

Robin
03-15-2005, 09:53 AM
Shame about all of those images.

Batman On Film (http://www.batman-on-film.com/):

We were informed a more than one BOF source that the final cut of the final should be completed soon and that all post-production should be finished in late April or early May. At that time, prints for theaters will start being made....

We also recieved word on The Scarecrow of which we can't be too specific right now. But as BOF has told you for a while now, this "Stage One" Scarecrow that we've seen a lot of recently, is nothing. The F/X shots of the "Stage Two" Scarecrow - which will show how a gassed victim sees Crane - are going to be "creepy as hell" as our source tells us. It seems that the mask will look like it is "alive" via the POV of the victims.... The Scarecrow is not the only character in BATMAN BEGINS that will be seen through the eyes of a gassed individual - as BOF told you a good while ago. And that's going to be worth seeing as well - trust me....

Damien
03-16-2005, 01:17 PM
Judging from that one picture of Batman holding up Crane, Crane will be dowsed with his own toxin. The ambiguousness of the last few sentences definately makes me think we'll be seeing Batman through Crane's poisoned POV, and it won't be just a flying bat like with the Riddler.

Robin
03-18-2005, 08:21 AM
New poster:

http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=4966

Note by Bird Boy: Images changed to link; CBR doesn't allow hotlinking.

Jaguar
03-18-2005, 12:01 PM
Just saw this at CBR.

There is only one word that comes to mind: prettiful.

Salvor
03-18-2005, 12:08 PM
A-freaking-mazing! Best Batman poster ever imo :eek:

Hatter
03-18-2005, 01:50 PM
Holy... crap!
Continuing Begins' trend of doing right everything that the previous Batman films did wrong, we now have a final one-sheet with no photo-collage of gaudy villains. Just a classic, vertigo-inducing Batman shot. It's absolutely gorgeous! This will go down as one of the classic movie posters.

Stu
03-18-2005, 01:56 PM
While I like the old international poster that was shown a few threads back a little more, gotta admit, that's a damn cool poster. :)

screw on head
03-18-2005, 02:44 PM
Yep, it's becoming more and more apparent that they just might know what they're doing on this film. Awesome poster :cool:.

Silly McGooses
03-18-2005, 02:58 PM
I really like the poster; didn't like the first one much

Phantasm
03-18-2005, 03:05 PM
Now this is what I'm talking about!YAY!!!!:) :) :)

Love the angle of the shot and those creepy bats.My olnly problem with it is that Batman's ears should have been longer. In that pose of his, the longer the ears, the more demonic he'd look.:sad:

BonyT
03-18-2005, 03:29 PM
Ooh -- BonyT likes :) . REALLY like the poster.

The people involved with this film clearly (and happily) are steeped in some of the best work from the Batman comics/graphic novels. This poster could've easily served as a great cover for Batman: Year One.

Damien
03-19-2005, 09:38 PM
This poster could've easily served as a great cover for Batman: Year One.Awesome poster. Makes me think of "Black Dawn" from BY1. I mean, hopefully that sequence isn't in the movie, him calling the bats and all, but still.
Again, great poster. I can totally see the giant-sized ones hanging out in cities around the country.

BatKid
03-20-2005, 01:16 AM
Just wanna inform you guys that there are new tv spots that will air soon. 3 of them in fact. And one of them, is found here:

http://www.protocolbat.s19.net/

Caution though, if you don't wanna spoil yourself the joy of seeing new footage in hi-res, don't click on it. It's basically a video within a video. Meaning the quality is not very good, and there's no sound. You see lots of interesting things though. Definitely the most action oriented. Think of it as scenes for the mainstream.

Phantasm
03-20-2005, 10:14 AM
That looks awesome!
Do u know when/where will it air?

BatKid
03-20-2005, 12:20 PM
It seems to be "test footage" for select viewers to rate, before it hits the mainstream. Judging from that, I'd say we could expect within 2 weeks.

BatKid
03-20-2005, 01:17 PM
Found a way to see all the new tv spots! :D Big thanks to the SuperHeroHype Boards for this helpful step-by-step:

1. Go to www.gozingsurveys.com and sign up as a U.S. Resident
2. The registration form where it asks you what Industry do you work in, select "Entertainment". Where it asks you if you have any family members working in any of the industries listed, select "movie studio" and "movie marketing" or something like that.
3. Complete your profile
4. After you've completed your profile, see if there's an entertainment survey for you, if there is, take it.
5. Enter your age anywhere in between 18-20 and select Male as gender.
6. Where it asks you if you live anywhere in Calfornia, select "none of the above"
7. When you're asked how many times you've been to the theatre in the last 2 months, select "6 or more".
8. You will be asked about Begins, FF, WOTW and Mr and Mrs Smith. To see the Begins TV spot, select Begins as the film you heard about, you have the most positive impressions about and as the film you most want to see. As for the rest, give them all low ratings to make sure you don't see their trailer instead of Begins.

Do this several times to see all the different Batman Begins spots. Good luck! :)

BatKid
03-22-2005, 06:39 PM
Well, like some of you have wanted, there's now a flash site for the movie:

http://www2.warnerbros.com/batmanbegins/flash/index.html

I must say it's very impressive. They strayed from making it too complicated, and opted for the simplistic look. Nonetheless, they played it off well. There's also tons of new pics up, here are a few that are interesting:

http://img220.exs.cx/img220/4183/snap0070fc.jpg

http://img229.exs.cx/img229/7307/snap0164uz.jpg

http://img229.exs.cx/img229/5083/snap0123lf.jpg

http://img220.exs.cx/img220/1050/snap0083ij.jpg

http://img220.exs.cx/img220/9176/snap0101yr.jpg

http://img220.exs.cx/img220/6635/snap0091do.jpg

http://img229.exs.cx/img229/8202/snap0155on.jpg

Now that the flash site is up, look for the spots coming very soon, as that's when the viewers usually check out the movie website.

Spider-Man
03-22-2005, 07:24 PM
http://img220.exs.cx/img220/4183/snap0070fc.jpg Looks like Batman hasn't finished unpacking the Batcave yet. This picture is probably my favorite of the bunch with the helicopter/batmobile one right after. I really think this movie is really going to turn out excellent.

Phantasm
03-22-2005, 08:27 PM
ugh!That link doesn't work for me!The page is just stuck on this small goldenish rectangle with a revolving thing in the center!!:mad::(

TheEvilClown
03-24-2005, 09:30 AM
This Movie is going to rock

The Penguin
03-24-2005, 09:45 PM
ugh!That link doesn't work for me!The page is just stuck on this small goldenish rectangle with a revolving thing in the center!!:mad::(Your computer's too slow. It worked fine for me.

BatKid
03-25-2005, 09:07 PM
New vid interviews of Bale talking about the car, suit, and the character:

http://www.iesb.net/movies2/movie032505.php

Check it out, first time you actually hear him go into detail about the movie.

dc_gothamite
03-25-2005, 09:43 PM
New vid interviews of Bale talking about the car, suit, and the character:

http://www.iesb.net/movies2/movie032505.php

Check it out, first time you actually hear him go into detail about the movie.
great stuff... i especially like bale's views on how the batman character should be conveyed on-screen, and his personal feelings on who he really is... bale definitely shows that he knows his stuff and what should be done w/ batman. :)

Phantasm
03-25-2005, 10:03 PM
Yep.I'm liking his rather passionate, serious attitude about Batman.He knows almost as about the character as most die-hard fans.:)

Jeffrey
03-26-2005, 01:48 PM
More news from Batman-on-film:

The film will now carry a PG-13 rating, as usual.
http://movies.monstersandcritics.com/news/printer_5461.php

It will also premiere at the famous Chinese Theatre in June 6.
http://movies.monstersandcritics.com/news/printer_5461.php

Elf
03-26-2005, 10:32 PM
Looks awesome, June 17th here we come.

BatKid
03-28-2005, 12:44 PM
New vid interview. Bale goes into his inspiration from the comics to portray the character:

http://www.iesb.net/movies2/batmansoundbiteswc.php

Robin
03-29-2005, 12:49 PM
I like the reasoning behind the PG-13 rating:

The film has been rated PG-13 for intense action violence, disturbing images and some thematic elements.

This sounds like alot of Scarecrow rumors are probably true, especially the news on his hallucinations. Now, what do they mean by "thematic"? I assume that means more mature subject matter?

Robin
04-01-2005, 11:16 AM
Some new stuff from Batman Begins has popped up.

Billboards:
http://photos.imageevent.com/batmanonfilm/bofimagesbofimages/beginsbillboard1.jpg

Teaser TV Spots:
http://www.themoviebox.net/movies/2005/0-9ABC/BatmanBegins/trailer.php

Damien
04-01-2005, 12:11 PM
Awesome, especially that second new T.V. spot.

TimTwoFace
04-01-2005, 12:17 PM
Lookin' good. That jump from the edge of the building looks pretty sweet.

-Tim

Phantasm
04-01-2005, 04:18 PM
That Was So Awesome!!:)

James
04-01-2005, 05:45 PM
That Was So Awesome!!:)
Awesome? Awesome is being able to observe and calculate the mass IQ of an entirely dull species on a small insignificant planet in an utterly boring solar system and then condense that into a witty yet factual reply without getting depressed. It's impossible, not that you would care, blathering about this, blathering about that. Batman? What a depressing character. Brain slightly larger than most of your species and he still hasn't worked out that a bucket of water is a far more condusive place your head than a rubber mask. Not that it's any less depressing, but wastes less energy and offers less interaction with the formerly mentioned dull species on that small insignificant planet. I'm sorry, did I say something wrong, pardon me for breathing which I do not do anyway so it's hardly worth you mentioning let alone replying to.

And to think some more interesting moderators would have chosen a different identity for a new April fool day. This is making me even more depressed.

BatKid
04-02-2005, 04:37 PM
New tv spot, this time in good quality:
http://www.themoviebox.net/movies/2005/0-9ABC/BatmanBegins/trailer.php

Here are some notable caps:
http://img51.exs.cx/img51/6915/snap0449rx.jpg
http://img51.exs.cx/img51/8348/snap0451nq.jpg
http://img51.exs.cx/img51/6083/snap0463dp.jpg
http://img51.exs.cx/img51/9375/snap0478bg.jpg
http://img51.exs.cx/img51/8628/snap0530gl.jpg

BatKid
04-02-2005, 04:38 PM
http://img51.exs.cx/img51/9129/snap0527jh.jpg
http://img51.exs.cx/img51/7/snap0513ds.jpg
http://img51.exs.cx/img51/1962/snap0492dg.jpg
http://img51.exs.cx/img51/2742/snap0504lz.jpg
http://img51.exs.cx/img51/9092/snap0481mk.jpg

Look out for more spots coming real soon....

BatKid
04-02-2005, 04:39 PM
Whoops, new page...

New tv spot, this time in good quality:
http://www.themoviebox.net/movies/2005/0-9ABC/BatmanBegins/trailer.php

Here are some notable caps:
http://img51.exs.cx/img51/6915/snap0449rx.jpg
http://img51.exs.cx/img51/8348/snap0451nq.jpg
http://img51.exs.cx/img51/6083/snap0463dp.jpg
http://img51.exs.cx/img51/9375/snap0478bg.jpg
http://img51.exs.cx/img51/8628/snap0530gl.jpg

Phantasm
04-02-2005, 04:50 PM
It just keeps getting better.

But I am somewhat disapointed with the order in which those clips are presented. What is the purpose of that small clip of the bruce/rachel near kiss?:confused: Is it just to indicate that it isn't all action or something?It seems out of place in those sequences of potentially angsty/dark shots.

BatKid
04-02-2005, 04:52 PM
They're trying to reach all audiences: The comic fans (narraration from the beginning), action fans (self explanatory, plenty in the spot), and the romantic fans (the kiss).

Borg4of3
04-02-2005, 05:21 PM
You didn't think the fire-breathing horse was a noteworthy shot? Tsk! :p Fantastic, and the way they're handling the cape is absolutely wonderful. Love the rusty red coloring and very happy they reused the narration from the first teaser, which I still feel is the best. Can't wait to see this sucker in high-res.

BatKid
04-02-2005, 06:47 PM
Another new spot, they just keep on comin'....

http://rapidshare.de/files/1108328/Batman_Begins_Short_TV_Spot_4.mov.html

TimTwoFace
04-02-2005, 09:29 PM
Su-WEET.

Looks like Alfred's getting in the middle of the action in this one, too. About time. :)

-Tim

Phantasm
04-02-2005, 09:52 PM
WOW!!!
I am SO truely hyped!!!!
"Guy who dresses as a bat clearly has issues."
HAHAHHAAH!:)

JustJack
04-03-2005, 06:14 PM
The toys supposedly hit shelves (er..."released", rather.) on Saturday. Anyone see them yet?

I eagerly picked up Batman, Scarecrow, and Ninja Bruce Wayne. I also debated buying the Batmobile, but I think I'll save that sucka' for another day. Though, here is some good news...the toy for the batmobile is HUGE. I'm serious...this is one hulking badass tank of bat-pounding destruction. Even if that's true, I'm sure Frank Miller's still kinda scoffing at it. Fact of the matter is, when it comes to tank-sized batmobiles...he still did it the best.

The toys are....o.k. Batman is fine..and his suitcase of accessories is brilliant. The Bruce Wayne figure is a bit of a disappointment. Doesn't look like Christian Bale, and his ninja suit is too bulky for the batman armor to fit over. Just an overall bad-design for what they were trying to accomplish. Though, he does include a ninja mask, so...if necessary, he doubles as a great ninja assasin for Ras al Ghul to fight Batman with.

Scarecrow just sucks. I'm very disappointed. Beware...beware. Buyer beware.

TimTwoFace
04-04-2005, 01:41 AM
I did a search yesterday and many of these toys are appearing on eBay, too. I didn't really like the Scarecrow figure; granted, I didn't get a good, close-up look, but it doesn't really look that great. I love the look for the movie, just the toy is a bit subpar.

-Tim

Spider-Man
04-04-2005, 06:27 AM
I watched the TV Spots today and as excellent as they were I am a bit worried. Can they really due justice to these characters while having so many of them in there? There seems to be alot going on here and I'm wondering if they might be overdoing it with the amount of villians going up against Batman. I'm sure they found a good way to balance it but there seems to be alot of them!

TimTwoFace
04-04-2005, 06:59 PM
As far as I know, Ra's al Ghul is going to be a background character, and one of his clan, Ducard, will be involved heavily - whether he's an actual "villain", an "antihero", or just a mentor is another story.

Scarecrow is obviously going to get a lot of screen time. I mean, he'd better - a villain this cool doesn't come along every day, and I'd hate to see Nolan waste him as a throwaway role.

As for everyone else...

Carmine Falcone - I hope he survives so he'll be around for a loose "Long Halloween" adaption down the road.

Mr. Zsasz - He's in it (not a spoiler) as a resident at Arkham, where Jonathan Crane works.

Joe Chill - Apparently he's in it, too - but what his role is, who knows. It just might be another bit part. Really, does it matter WHO killed Batman's parents, or is it the fact that a nameless being known as "crime" or "violence" took his parents provide all the motivation he needs?

Then there are the rumors that pre-origin versions of the Joker, Two-Face, and even Harley Quinn may appear to some degree in this movie; if that's the case, that's great, but only as fanservice (that fits the story) and as a set-up for future movies. I doubt they'll take away from the movie at hand.

It's a lot of people, but I know that everyone serves a role and that all these characters are there for a reason, not "just because". What, you think this is a Schumacher movie or something?

-Tim

silverwings
04-04-2005, 07:07 PM
Another new spot, they just keep on comin'....

http://rapidshare.de/files/1108328/Batman_Begins_Short_TV_Spot_4.mov.htmlLink doesn't work. :(

BatKid
04-04-2005, 09:56 PM
Link doesn't work. :( Both trailers can be found in QT right here, they're the bottom 2 labeled new:

http://www.themoviebox.net/movies/2005/0-9ABC/BatmanBegins/trailer.php

silverwings
04-04-2005, 10:14 PM
Both trailers can be found in QT right here, they're the bottom 2 labeled new:

http://www.themoviebox.net/movies/2005/0-9ABC/BatmanBegins/trailer.php
Awesome! Thanks!

The 30 sec ones are much better. Though I like the second one better. :p

Spider-Man
04-06-2005, 06:04 AM
Is this a New Batman Begins Poster?

http://inlandempirestrikesback.net/v-web/gallery/HighResPosters/batman_begins2

Robin
04-06-2005, 09:14 AM
Not a bad poster. They seem to have a definiet theme going on with these posters. I like what I've been seeing lately from the stills, as well as this poster, and it's making me really optimistic for the movie.

TheEvilClown
04-06-2005, 02:20 PM
Wow that poster looks bad *** and they just keep on getting better and better. Now we need a New Theatrical Trailer any Wb movie coming out this year?

TimTwoFace
04-06-2005, 06:54 PM
That poster's OK, but it's my least favourite thus far. They're all looking great - this one just doesn't have that "wow" factor that the previous did.

-Tim

Phantasm
04-06-2005, 07:31 PM
Yeah.Not the best poster yet,but its something.

Knight
04-07-2005, 02:59 PM
The newest poster isnt that impressive to me. I really liked the one before this one but it really doesnt matter. They could have a completly blank poster and id still be there to see the movie.

Patrick Bateman
04-07-2005, 09:37 PM
The newest poster isnt that impressive to me. I really liked the one before this one but it really doesnt matter. They could have a completly blank poster and id still be there to see the movie. That's just what I've been thinking.

BatKid
04-14-2005, 02:58 PM
New one-sheet:

http://photos.imageevent.com/batmanonfilm/bofimagesbofimages/batman_romantic2.jpg

TimTwoFace
04-14-2005, 04:56 PM
That one's good, but it's a little blurry. I like the colour schemes for all the posters thus far, though.

-Tim

Bird Boy
04-14-2005, 05:57 PM
The bloody hell is with all these posters. I was thinking there were only going to be one or two...

...and the newest one is borderline pointless. I think they ran out of images to use for posters...

-BB

Knight
04-14-2005, 09:24 PM
That new poster looks like it was done by someone using photoshop.

The Penguin
04-14-2005, 09:33 PM
I kinda like it. It shows Batman as a hero (saving Rachel). It's not the best poster, but I like it.

TimTwoFace
04-14-2005, 10:06 PM
Yeah, most movies get like one or two posters - and we're getting five already, with likely more to come. Yikes!

My favourite is still the third, with Batman swooping down through the city and all the other bats and skyscrapers are rising high above him.

-Tim

Robin
04-15-2005, 09:45 AM
I actually like this poster. It's something that we haven't seen before, for a Batman movie poster, and it can be warped into emphasizing the "romantic" angle to get women to see it. Sure...it's not all that sexy looking, but it's a great heroic image.

TimTwoFace
04-15-2005, 11:58 AM
Oh, I like the image - no problem there - but it just looks really blurry and, in some ways, does look like someone made a manipulation on photoshop or something. I remember the pose of Batman and Rachel from before, and I clearly recall his head tilted to face the other direction, for example.

-Tim

Phantasm
04-15-2005, 12:35 PM
Nah...this latest poster is a disapointment. I hate the stereotypical hero-saves-girl angle of it!:mad:

Robin
04-15-2005, 01:48 PM
Nah...this latest poster is a disapointment. I hate the stereotypical hero-saves-girl angle of it!:mad:Sure is...:shrug:

I think it's better than the one from Spider-Man with Mary Jane drooped over him. This seems more iconic and more dark, fierce, even. And this was officially released from WB so I don't think it's a fan image. I liked the blurred nature, all of it. Makes it mysterious and dark. It's not entirely clear, which I like better than posters that give everything away.

Knight
04-15-2005, 02:29 PM
I think it's better than the one from Spider-Man with Mary Jane drooped over him. I couldn't disagree more.Im in no way a Spidey fan but the poster you are referring too looked a lot better than this poor quality Batman one that just came out.

TimTwoFace
04-15-2005, 08:31 PM
I hate the stereotypical hero-saves-girl angle of it!:mad:
Well, I've read the script, and - well, I won't spoil anything - but Rachel's character, thankfully, is not the "Damsel in Distress" sort in this movie. I really like the picture this poster was taken from - the poster itself just looks kinda "meh". That doesn't change my excitement for the film by any means, however.

-Tim

Patrick Bateman
04-15-2005, 08:40 PM
I think it's better than the one from Spider-Man with Mary Jane drooped over him. This seems more iconic and more dark, fierce, even. And this was officially released from WB so I don't think it's a fan image. I liked the blurred nature, all of it. Makes it mysterious and dark. It's not entirely clear, which I like better than posters that give everything away. The Spider-Man 2 poster looked far better than this poster just for the sheer fact that it looked like a poster and not a piece of photoshop rubbish.

BatKid
04-15-2005, 09:26 PM
Bruce traveling around...

http://www.moviespoilers.net/batman57.jpg

For all the script readers, you'll know what scene this is, an important one in fact ;)...

http://www.moviespoilers.net/batman56.jpg

Phantasm
04-15-2005, 11:26 PM
I adore Christian Bale!!!:anime:

TimTwoFace
04-16-2005, 12:00 AM
For all the script readers, you'll know what scene this is, an important one in fact ;)...
Now now, we don't want even hints of spoilers of the script! :)

Bruce Wayne is Batman, by the way.

-Tim

BatKid
04-19-2005, 03:16 PM
Now now, we don't want even hints of spoilers of the script! :)

Bruce Wayne is Batman, by the way.

-Tim Why would it bother you...you've already read it. :p

Anyway,2 new pics from the film:

http://img214.echo.cx/img214/9440/wbatman401ie.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v461/NightwingKM/wbatman41.jpg
Also, some pretty big news that'll be coming up soon, courtesy of SHH (http://www.superherohype.com/news/batmannews.php?id=2872):

http://comingsoon.net/nextraimages/batman8minpreview.jpg Two DC Comics legends, Clark Kent and Batman, will unite on Wednesday, May 18 (8:00 p.m. ET) as The WB presents the world premiere of an exclusive eight-minute special footage preview of the highly anticipated theatrical release Batman Begins (http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=5020), which will air within the 90-minute presentation of the season finale of the network's hit drama, Smallville.

"This is a great night for fans of the two most popular superheroes in the history of American Pop Culture," said David Janollari, President of Entertainment at The WB. "Fans of 'Smallville' will not want to miss this special extended version of what will be the series’ best-ever season finale. Broadcasting exclusive footage of the summer's most anticipated feature film, 'Batman Begins', makes this a very exciting night for us and a natural fit for the fans of 'Smallville'."

“We are thrilled to share this exclusive preview of 'Batman Begins' with fans of 'Smallville'," said Dawn Taubin, President of Domestic Marketing, Warner Bros. Pictures. "Not only does this special event bring together two seminal American superheroes, but both 'Smallville' and 'Batman Begins' give fans the opportunity to delve deeper into the mythology behind their heroes. May 18 promises to reveal exciting new chapters in the history of these legends, and kick off a summer that fans will never forget."

Smallville's 90-minute season finale is packed with murder, betrayal and an unforgettable graduation day for all.

"Superman and Batman have always been inextricably linked to each other, so it seems fitting that a show chronicling the Man of Steel's youth give you the first look at the birth of the Dark Knight," said Al Gough, executive producer, 'Smallville'. "Christopher Nolan is an incredibly talented filmmaker and we couldn't be more excited and honored to have our season finale complimented with exclusive footage from 'Batman Begins'."

Batman Begins (http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=5020), which opens in theaters on Friday, June 17, explores the origins of the Batman legend and the Dark Knight's emergence as a force of good in Gotham. The film stars Christian Bale as Batman, along with Michael Caine, Liam Neeson, Katie Holmes, Gary Oldman, Cillian Murphy, Tom Wilkinson, Rutger Hauer, Ken Watanabe and Morgan Freeman.

A Warner Bros. Pictures release, Batman Begins (http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=5020) is directed by Christopher Nolan and produced by Emma Thomas, Charles Roven and Larry Franco. The screenplay is by Christopher Nolan and David S. Goyer, story by David S. Goyer, based upon Batman characters created by Bob Kane and published by DC Comics. The executive producers are Benjamin Melniker and Michael E. Uslan.

Smallville stars Tom Welling, Kristen Kruek, Michael Rosenbaum, Jensen Ackles, Allison Mack, John Glover, Annette O'Toole and John Schneider and chronicles the life of Clark Kent as a teenager in the years preceding his emergence as Superman.
Hope you guys don't miss it! :sweat:

Phantasm
04-19-2005, 04:03 PM
YAAAAAAYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WOW!!!!!!
OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!
:anime: :anime:

TimTwoFace
04-19-2005, 07:00 PM
Why would it bother you...you've already read it. :p
Yes, but half the fun is watching others discovering all the intricacies of the script coming to life. :)

Those are some sweet pics, too. Looks like Crane sure gets his. :D

-Tim

Spider-Man
04-20-2005, 10:54 AM
That Dr. Crane/Scarecrow picture looks great! They picked just the right guy for the role. It doesn't beat that great visual of him on top of the horse in costume but it's still a great image.

Have we heard anything on a soundtrack/score release for the movie?

Style
04-20-2005, 11:39 AM
Nah...this latest poster is a disapointment. I hate the stereotypical hero-saves-girl angle of it!:mad:
Harry on AICN thinks that it hearkens to a different tradition, of "monster has girl in clutches" posters of old horror movies. Check "Forbidden Planet" for a good example.

Bird Boy
04-20-2005, 01:24 PM
It wasn't until now that this just hit me: 'Batman Begins' seems to have a poster for every theme like 'Spider-Man 2' did. Not that copying a successful movie is a bad thing, just...well it's copying.

Love that Crane in the straight jacket image. Looks like he just had the crap knocked out of him...:D

-BB

Phantasm
04-20-2005, 03:40 PM
Is the season finale really airing tonight? WITH the preview?:confused:

BatKid
04-20-2005, 03:41 PM
Is the season finale really airing tonight? WITH the preview?:confused: Read it again. It's in May.

Style
04-20-2005, 03:42 PM
Is the season finale really airing tonight? WITH the preview?:confused: Not tonight. May 18th. Then you can go watch Episode III at midnight.

Silly McGooses
04-20-2005, 09:06 PM
I hope they do a Scarecrow poster.

You know, I allmost completely forgot Ras was in this movie till I saw the (crappy) action figure...got me excited all over again, though!

TimTwoFace
04-21-2005, 10:19 PM
I just read a report at Superherohype.com that the release date for the movie has been moved up from June 17 to June 15. A nice, big, fat, long weekend. Should be huge. :)

Now I have to take the 15th off from work, too? Dang!

-Tim

Bird Boy
04-21-2005, 11:12 PM
Not tonight. May 18th. Then you can go watch Episode III at midnight.

12:01am ticket baby. Hells yeah.


I just read a report at Superherohype.com that the release date for the movie has been moved up from June 17 to June 15. A nice, big, fat, long weekend. Should be huge. :)

Now I have to take the 15th off from work, too? Dang!

-Tim

Interesting. And kind of sucky, cause getting my brother to go on a Wednesday will be tricky...

-BB