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DR.MID-NITE
11-27-2001, 03:05 PM
In most GL incarnations. When a GL uses his ring it usually does not just create a beam. For example when Kyle Raynor attacks someone he usually creates some device, creature or character to do it. When he wants to catch someone he will create a glove or a hand. I don't want to sound so picky. But, it seems that the only thing the Justice League GL does is create sheilds and beams.

Joe Tully
11-27-2001, 04:40 PM
Well, yes. He merely uses the ring to do what needs to be done. Example: Part one of Blackest Night. He could have made a hand to pick up the car, or something more fancy like a giant magnet, but instead just wrapped the car in a field. It got the job done quickly and efficiently, and that is part of his personality. While it is sometimes interesting to see the different things that Kyle or Hal would make with the ring, I think that the use of simple beams and fields fits in well with John's personality, and so it makes more sense to see him using those rather than objects. To see him make more fancy constructs would not really fit in with his personality.

JL4Ever
11-27-2001, 04:45 PM
Originally posted by Joe Tully
Well, yes. He merely uses the ring to do what needs to be done. Example: Part one of Blackest Night. He could have made a hand to pick up the car, or something more fancy like a giant magnet, but instead just wrapped the car in a field. It got the job done quickly and efficiently, and that is part of his personality. While it is sometimes interesting to see the different things that Kyle or Hal would make with the ring, I think that the use of simple beams and fields fits in well with John's personality, and so it makes more sense to see him using those rather than objects. To see him make more fancy constructs would not really fit in with his personality.

Makes sense but in JL Adventures #1 GL makes a huge tweaser with the ring and a hand with a mitt. If he can do it in the comic and be in character why can't we see this in the show?

Failure
11-27-2001, 04:53 PM
I guess you can say JS is not creative. Especially compared to Raynor who was an artist (at least in the STAS ep, I dont know how it was in the comics). It's probably because those straightforward attacks are the first thing that come to his mind. I wouldnt be surprised if he became more creative as the series went on though.

Stardust
11-27-2001, 05:11 PM
Originally posted by DR.MID-NITE
In most GL incarnations. When a GL uses his ring it usually does not just create a beam. For example when Kyle Raynor attacks someone he usually creates some device, creature or character to do it. When he wants to catch someone he will create a glove or a hand. I don't want to sound so picky. But, it seems that the only thing the Justice League GL does is create sheilds and beams.

i dunno if it means anything, but wasn't kyle an artist for the daily planet? :p artists have this huge creativity quality and that sort of open their minds to interesting situations that no one might think of. just my two-cents in this :D

Lodoss War Fan
11-27-2001, 05:15 PM
Cut JS some slack here! sure he may not be quite creative with using the ring but he does get the job done.

TerryMcGuiness
11-27-2001, 05:36 PM
Okay, I'll be cutting and pasting from another post here, but since I didnt get any responses last time and this is my honest answer to this very topic.

I think that quite simply, they are apporaching it as the Green Lanterns **light**

Its a light thats powered by not only his will but his intense concentration. The latter being something that can be broken if say suddenly he noticed something coming at him from another angle that he didnt expect, hence why the force feild failed in the pilot.

The focusing of the light is dependant on this and he can make this light do things he wants, but its still acts like light rather than a something to construct objects with. The ring almost acts like a tangible form of telekinsis and a ultimate cutting torch.

I prefer to think of GL in this almost as something along the lines of a Jedi Knight. With the Green Lanterns light being like the Force with a offensive option.

It adds a certain needed mystique to it all.

The main key to the power of the ring is will. The imagination aspect isnt something that became so inetgral until Kyle.

I for one think that not every Lantern should be able to do the ring constructs. I think it works better for most of the GL's to use it like John has in the show *but* there are occasionally those who can manipulate it in unique ways.

John on the other hand, is a total no nonsense, no bull**** Green Lantern, and I like it.

Joe Tully
11-27-2001, 05:41 PM
Originally posted by JL4Ever


Makes sense but in JL Adventures #1 GL makes a huge tweaser with the ring and a hand with a mitt. If he can do it in the comic and be in character why can't we see this in the show?

Well, I haven't read the comic, but to me it sounds more like the comic should be trying to go the way of the cartoon. For one thing, the crew behind the cartoon are defining the personality of the JL team which the comic has to follow. You say that the comic has John do that stuff "in character" but I think that it's more in character for him to simply get the job done.

You said it Lodoss, GL might not be creative, but that's because he's a serious guy who just wants to get the job done as quickly as possible. To him, thinking up some fancy construct would just take up extra time, when a beam or field could do the same job and would require less time, thought and effort.

Ricochet
11-27-2001, 07:24 PM
I think the rings just aren't as powerful in the show. In JL's short lived live action prime time show, GL couldn't do THAT much. I suspect they're toning it down. He's almost omnipotent with the power his ring as in the comics. :)

Tim Drake
11-27-2001, 07:26 PM
I agree that John Stewart is a no nonense tough guy who doesn't waste time. However I don't understand why none of the other Green Lanterns used the ring differently. There were 5 of them and they all did the same thing. Ah well. I'm just venting.

Maxie Zeus
11-27-2001, 07:58 PM
It would certainly be an interesting aside, and reveal character: Show JS and another member of the corps using their rings in different ways, and their reactions to each other. So, for instance, JS knocks something over with a simple force beam, while the other uses the ring to fashion a fist or a baseball bat. When they're done JS gives a half-smile and mutters "Show off" to the other GL.

The Guard
11-27-2001, 09:35 PM
Let us never discuss the live action JLA TV show ever again...

here's why...

Green Lantern was Hal Jordan, with the characterization of Guy Gardner, and a weak little pansy ring...

The Atom looked like the NFL Superpro

Fire was Cleavage Maid...

Ice never appeared in costume...

Martian Manhunter looked like his makeup was paper mache...

Flash looked like Johnny Quick...

The story was horrible and bland...

The villain was...well...ugh.

GL lived with Flash...

UGH.

The Fantastic Four movie was better...

kid_flash
11-27-2001, 09:49 PM
Originally posted by Tim Drake
I agree that John Stewart is a no nonense tough guy who doesn't waste time. However I don't understand why none of the other Green Lanterns used the ring differently. There were 5 of them and they all did the same thing. Ah well. I'm just venting.

Well, let's take a look-see:

Alan Scott: An engineer. The guy gets paid to come up with stuff.

Hal Jordan: A fun-loving jet-jockey, seems to be the kind who's a big movie fan, his imagination's pretty good.

Guy Gardner: A show-off. He'll pretty much only do something if it makes him look good.

Kyle Rayner: An artist, naturally huge imagination.

John Stewart: In the comics, he's now an architect. But in the cartoon, I think he has a natural no-nonsense personality.

That't the way I see 'em, anyway.

Green Lantern
11-29-2001, 02:24 PM
Alan Scott, when he first appeared, really did nothing with the ring but fly, walk through walls, and make himself invulnerable. I hope John at least invokes those abilities.

I also don't like that the ring's energy seems so much less fluid than it did in In Brightest Day. The beam in that episode came out quick and vanished. In JL it seems like the beam always comes back into the ring or shoots off into oblivion, as seen in In Blackest Night 1.

I prefer the S:TAS Kyle Rayner to this John Stewart. Sorry John fans.

kid_flash
11-30-2001, 12:19 AM
Good point on Alan Scott. But you look at the guy now, he gives Kyle a run for creativity. So John may have some creatvity coming his way (ignore whatever he did in the JL Adventures comic....very un-John like).