Gundam SEED "Athrun" Talkback (Spoilers)

[NickWhiz1]

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This is the official talkback for the Cartoon Network premiere of Gundam SEED Phase-39, "Athrun".




Last week:

After the fall of Panama, the Earth Alliance lacks a mass driver, necessary to transport troops and supplies to space. The only remaining mass driver is the Kaguya mass driver, in the hands of the Orb Union. Without many other options, Blue Cosmos leader Muruta Azrael convinces the Atlantic Federation big-wigs to let him go attack Orb and get their mass driver. Actually, an attack wouldn't have been necessary if Lord Uzumi of Orb had accepted a tiny little ultimatum (think our ultimatum to Iraq before the invasion), but that would have required an alliance with the Atlantic Federation, which Orb will not do. So, the EAF sends its forces to attack Onogoro Island. Included in these forces are three new Gundams based off the GAT-X series from Heliopolis: Calamity, Forbidden, and Raider. Kira is forced into a 3-on-1 battle with these new foes, which soon overwhelm him. Just as Freedom was about to be destroyed, Athrun jumped in and saved him with his new Justice Gundam.




Also, Cagalli shows more physical attraction towards Kira, Mu scores with the captain, and Kuzzey leaves. You know, other stuff.




This week:

Freedom and Justice vs. Calamity, Forbidden, and Raider. Watch it, scumbag.




SPOILERS:

Feel free to discuss anything that has happened in the series up to this point. However, should you feel the need to say anything from the rest of the series or Destiny, please mark said discussion with spoiler tags. Otherwise, we'll triple team the Druggies against you +P

[Duke]

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In the distant future, giant robots capable of leveling entire cities can only be given to angst-ridden teenagers who have a fangirl harem the size of Texas. I'm jealous.




Last time on Mobile Suit Gundam SEED:




"Mu finally gets his own Mobile Suit, the Strike, and also gets his first test as the Earth Alliance invades Orb to obtain their Mass Driver. Azreal, the head of Blue Cosmos, oversees this operation personally, as he sends out the EA's three newest Mobile Suits: Raider Gundam, Forbidden Gundam, and Calamity Gundam. While Kira tangles with the 'druggie trio,' Mu helps the M1 Astray pilots get their footing. Unfortunately, these new Gundams have a new armor that seemingly cancels out Kira's Hi-MAT system, meaning he actually has to put effort in this battle. Just when it looks like it's all over, who should come in but Athrun, who's about to unleash his own brand of Justice..."




This week on Mobile Suit Gundam SEED:




"Athrun and Kira, for the first time, fight together in their bad-ass new Gundams to take on the 'druggie trio' and their snazzy new Gundams (well, one is snazzy. The other is bulky and the other one just sucks). Meanwhile, the Archangel, the Strike, and the Astrays are busy holding off the Earth Alliance fleet. Can Freedom and Justice hold off Raider, Forbidden, and Calamity long enough, or will Orb be destroyed by the KKK-on-crack?"




Spoilers: Athrun's too much of a wimp for Justice. I want it.

[Animeforever'04]

what a stupid freakin' pole!:mad:

[Funkatron]

*looks up at Duke's poll stickied at the top.*

[Cheesecake]

stop going on about the pole, its a reference to the Blue cosmos you imulsive fools:mad:

[Duke]

Bah. You suck.

And we had our Druggie-parade last week. :P

[Botman]

Blue Cosmos = KKK-on-crack I take offense to that.

[GWOtaku]

I'm gonna have to record this one. The first part of tonight's show contains one of my favorite mecha battles.

[Cheesecake]

I take offense to that.
Jesus chirst no wonder Bush won the election.

Let me offend you further. Ahem.

Bin laden got drunk!! wooooh!!

[shadowstrain]

Finally we get to see Justice in action and Athrun reborn. One of my favorites...:cool:

http://www.gun-plus.com/screenshots/seed/epthirtynine40.jpg

(thanks gundam plus)

[Botman]

Jesus chirst no wonder Bush won the election. I'd rather not drag real life politics into this...

Edit: Let me make one thing clear. I'm not a racist in real life. But for some reason, I'm siding with the Naturals in this series.

[Fencedude]

I'd rather not drag real life politics into this...

Edit: Let me make one thing clear. I'm not a racist in real life. But for some reason, I'm siding with the Naturals in this series.
Which shows me that you are COMPLETELY missing the entire point the show is trying to make.

[NickWhiz1]

*feels like he did something wrong*

*cries*

*calls Destiny talkbacks if/when it airs in the U.S.*

[Fencedude]

It starts...

[FlyByNite77]

When you're piloting Forbidden do you have the right to call other mobile suits funny looking? :D

[Fencedude]

When you're piloting Forbidden do you have the right to call other mobile suits funny looking? :D
Heh, I've always thought that myself.

[PaQ]

Man, seeing Kira and Athrun fighting together was great. They certainly played the right music for that scene, certainly was adrenaline pumping.

I can see why Athrun is the name of the episode.. seems to be all Kira can say. :p

[Fencedude]

And Dearka shows why he is the Master of Tact!

[EnAll]

"Be true to your name .... Freedom"

BEST. LINE. EVER!!!!!!!!

[NickWhiz1]

First half was a continuation of last week's battle, second half is a gap in the fighting with some character development and exposition.

Next Time: Phase 40 - Into the Dawn Skies

Bring the hankies for next week.

Isn't next week going to be four weeks since 36? If so...WE'LL FINALLY FIND OUT WHAT THE BIG SURPRISE IS >_>

[FlyByNite77]

First half was a continuation of last week's battle, second half is a gap in the fighting with some character development and exposition.

Next Time: Phase 40 - Into the Dawn Skies

Bring the hankies for next week.

Isn't next week going to be four weeks since 36? If so...WE'LL FINALLY FIND OUT WHAT THE BIG SURPRISE IS >_>Maybe they're changing the end credits so we'll get Find the Way which starts next week doesn't it? :D

[EnAll]

Isn't next week going to be four weeks since 36? If so...WE'LL FINALLY FIND OUT WHAT THE BIG SURPRISE IS >_>
>_>

<_<

There you are, Maune. Tell us it the surprrise still exists!

[NickWhiz1]

Maybe they're changing the end credits so we'll get Find the Way which starts next week doesn't it? :D
Well, next week does start Find the Way, but I was referring to the "other" surprise. Go back and read the Episode 36 talkback >_>

[Fatneck]

Doesn't hack end its second run next week? If so, I'm betting the surprise is probably back to back Seed epsiodes the week after.

[Riza Hawkeye]

Well any and all references to drugs has been elimanated.
Here's a quick run down of edits for this episode:
Seizures removed 1 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/RizaHawkeye/bscap011.jpg) 2 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/RizaHawkeye/bscap012.jpg)
Withdrawal 1 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/RizaHawkeye/bscap013.jpg) 2 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/RizaHawkeye/bscap014.jpg)
Test subjects (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/RizaHawkeye/bscap015.jpg)
Drugs (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/RizaHawkeye/bscap016.jpg) :evil: Drugs2 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/RizaHawkeye/bscap017.jpg) :evil:
Got their fix (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/RizaHawkeye/bscap018.jpg)

[Vagrant]

Yeah! Acting like a spas then going through agonizing convulsions makes me want to take drugs!!! Woooooooo! PARTAAAAAAAY!!! :rolleyes:

[Mog]

Awesome episode. The fighting was great and the drama that followed was pretty good.

9/10. I might have given it a 10/10 but "YOU'RE YUMMY, ATHRUN!" is a step too far in the wrong direction for me.

[Botman]

Well, after all this, I missed it...


Which shows me that you are COMPLETELY missing the entire point the show is trying to make. I'm sorry, but I simply don't believe that Naturals and Coordinators will ever be able to completly peacefully coexist.

[Vagrant]

The Coordinators should simply wipe the naturals out. Coordinators been far too kind for far too long. :evil:

[Botman]

The coordinators should wipe the naturals out. They've been far too kind for far too long. :evil:
Hey, at least they'd go down fighting...

[Vagrant]

Hey, at least they'd go down fighting... Yeah, like a sickly dog that needs to be put down.

[Fencedude]

*stabs both of you*

I don't see how you could possibly root for ZAFT or the EA at this point. They are all complete asses.

Edit: And, just for the record. The war was started by Naturals.

[Botman]

You really want to start something, do you?

There is no shame in fighting for survival. Even if they lose, they certainly wouldn't make it easy.


And, just for the record. The war was started by Naturals.
War was inevitable after George Glenn did what he did.

[Freedom Fighter]

- Apparently, the thought of 'how long have they been working together?' comes to mind when the 'Druggies' had no concern for each other's well-being during the battle.
- Speaking of which, if I had never come to ToonZone (in turn, meaning I would have never seen that list of edits), it would've been easy to conclude that they were on some type of drugs. People normally don't act that way, y'know?
- What's with Cagalli, ruining Kira and Athrun's moment together? :sad: Looks like there's at least one female garnering for more attention!
- Mirialla and Dearka. The way things are going, I'd be disappointed if they don't even become friends, at the bare minimum, after all this is over.
- Last week (or the week before), we get a brief shot of Natarle, still in an EA uniform. This week, Flay, in a green uniform that I'm supposing is a ZAFT uni... though how or why that happened is still a big mystery. One that will be resolved soon, I hope?

Hmmm... having a lot of trouble scoring stuff this week. Let's give "Athrun" 8 out of 10.

[Fencedude]

You really want to start something, do you?

There is no shame in fighting for survival. Even if they lose, they certainly wouldn't make it easy.

War was inevitable after George Glenn did what he did.
I find that a very...negative way of looking at things.

War was inevitable after Blue Cosmos began its terrorist activities against the PLANTS, no matter how you cut it, the Coordinators were just trying to live in peace, while the EA and other organizations on Earth tried to repress them.

Have you read the official timeline? (http://www.gundamofficial.com/worlds/ce/background/timeline.html) You should...

[Riza Hawkeye]

Genocide won't solve anything. In the beginning I rooted for the EA, but I learned what kind of people they really were by what they did in Alaska. Both sides are promoting genocide and that's not right no matter how you look at it.

[Riza Hawkeye]

...This week, Flay, in a green uniform that I'm supposing is a ZAFT uni... She couldn't exactly walk around a ZAFT vessel with an EA uniform on :p

[Botman]

I find that a very...negative way of looking at things.
What can I say? I'm a realist.


War was inevitable after Blue Cosmos began its terrorist activities against the PLANTS, no matter how you cut it, the Coordinators were just trying to live in peace, while the EA and other organizations on Earth tried to repress them.
And if they weren't being repressed, they would be some sort of Patrick Zala-type faction attempting to rule the Naturals.

Like it or not, the emergence of Coordinators have turned Naturals into second class citizens. Naturally (no pun intended) that would not sit well with some.

Like I said, lasting peace would not be possible.


Have you read the official timeline? (http://www.gundamofficial.com/worlds/ce/background/timeline.html) You should...
I have. It doesn't change my opinion.

[Fencedude]

Its my contention that at this point rooting for either the Naturals or the Coordinators shows a fundamental lack of understand of what Seed is trying to convey.

There is a reason the current protagonists consists of defectors from both sides of the conflict.

[Botman]

All I'm saying is, even if they take down the EA and ZAFT, ORB should not expect both sides to readily accept peace.

[Fencedude]

All I'm saying is, even if they take down the EA and ZAFT, ORB should not expect both sides to readily accept peace.
Indeed. Which is why there is a sequel series set just two years later.

[G1Ravage]

Boy, Flay sure has become pointless. :shrug:

[JetMaster5]

Yea...I pity Flay, currently.

[Wounded_Dragon]

Unless you're prepared to tell me that the Earth Alliance is going to share the wealth (and according to the timeline, that doesn't seem likely) with every single individual, I don't see what makes them any better than ZAFT.

Coordinators make Naturals second class citizens? Seems like the Naturals were trying to make them into first class slaves.

[Andrew T. Hingson]

Great episode but really bad scene edits that were all too obvious. This increases my desire to see this show completely uncut and in it's entirety someday.

[Funkatron]

Great episode but really bad scene edits that were all too obvious. This increases my desire to see this show completely uncut and in it's entirety someday. coughBandaiSaleAtRightStufEnds01/31cough

Anywho, awesome episode. edits were noticable(Yay! Seizures cause drug use!!!) Great Kira and Athrun moments. Glad everyone know they were friends. Poor Mir knows who killed tolle now. And Deerka aims for the rebound :p

Saying EA is right is like saying the KKK is right in beating on blacks(Yeah, I'm opening that can of worms). War was definately not inevitable..that is, it wasn't until EA wanted to "punish" thier "slaves" for not cooperating. But then again, Patrick Zala isn't making ZAFT look any more inviting. His whole "Make them pay" angle has genocidal undertones of its own: He wouldn't shed a tear if every natural dropped off the face of the earth

[A.Magik]

We get another example on how Mir won't be following Flay's psychohottie habits: she isn't going to seduce Dearka into her secret weapon against all Coordinators (e.g. Athrun).

A.Magik

[HellCat]

The society that Orb is trying to promote has the right idea- Coordinators and Naturals are on the same social standing and both genetic types work togethor. It's a good template for the real world to follow too.

I realise this is in danger of further spiraling into a risky political discussion, but I wanted to throw in my 2 pence on the matter.

[Duke]

The Coordinators don't need to kill all Naturals in order to make peace, they just have to take out the EA bigwigs and Blue Cosmos. Likewise, Papa Zala needs to be taken out as well.

[Botman]

The society that Orb is trying to promote has the right idea- Coordinators and Naturals are on the same social standing and both genetic types work togethor. My only problem with ORB, is that it is promoting the idea of equality, when true equality between Naturals and Coordinators is pretty much impossible.


Coordinators make Naturals second class citizens? Seems like the Naturals were trying to make them into first class slaves.And you're telling me the opposite wouldn't happen? After all, why bother with menial labor yourself when your mental abilities far exceed those of the Naturals? Plus, you'd be giving them a purpose to live again. To serve their Coordinator betters.


If I'm getting out of hand, I'll stop posting in this thread.

[Anime Otaku]

*bashes head aginst wall* I forgot to record this ep. Gah. Anyone care to post a summary?

[Botman]

*bashes head aginst wall* I forgot to record this ep. Gah. Anyone care to post a summary?
http://www.mahq.net/animation/gundam/seed/gsep39.htm

[Funkatron]

My only problem with ORB, is that it is promoting the idea of equality, when true equality between Naturals and Coordinators is pretty much impossible.

And you're telling me the opposite wouldn't happen? After all, why bother with menial labor yourself when your mental abilities far exceed those of the Naturals? Plus, you'd be giving them a purpose to live again. To serve their Coordinator betters.


If I'm getting out of hand, I'll stop posting in this thread.
Sounds like you putting words in thier(ZAFT and the PLANTS) mouths. There is no evidence that says they'd enslave Naturals with no provication. It seems clear they were content with being isolated. If it wasn't for the Bloody Valentine Tragidy, they would have left each other alone.

[Botman]

Call it a hunch, but I just don't think it would have remained that way. It might last as much as a few centuries, but constant isolation would simply make things even more difficult over time.

(Also, they couldn't remain isolated anyway, due to the problem with 3rd generation Coordinators. Just think about what they would do to "solve" that problem...)

[Wounded_Dragon]

Call it a hunch, but I just don't think it would have remained that way. It might last as much as a few centuries, but constant isolation would simply make things even more difficult over time.

(Also, they couldn't remain isolated anyway, due to the problem with 3rd generation Coordinators. Just think about what they would do to "solve" that problem...)
So people aren't allowed to rise above the average because there's a chance they'll let it go to their heads?

And how they'd 'solve' their problem depends greatly on who's in charge at the time.

[Shogun373]

I must agree with the comment on Orb, and what Orb is trying to achieve: equality between Naturals and Coordinators. But then again, this is an idealistic way of thinking that is practically impossible. There cannot be true equality among this two races, the only hope is for people to achieve a level of tolerance that will hopefully lead to love among people. Only love overcomes all boundaries. By the way: in the C.E, men are not all created equal any longer. (Declaration of Independence).

[Botman]

I must agree with the comment on Orb, and what Orb is trying to achieve: equality between Naturals and Coordinators. But then again, this is an idealistic way of thinking that is practically impossible.

In the C.E, men are not all created equal any longer. Exactly. I'd be the first one to support equality between the two, if equality was at all possible.


So people aren't allowed to rise above the average because there's a chance they'll let it go to their heads?
When you're dealing with an entire race of people who are aware of the fact that they are superior, I'd say that possibility is very likely.

[lostrune]

1. Damn, those druggies really have no disregard for the concept of team. :ack:

2. Damn Mwu, hasn't done anything special yet. :crying:

3. Buster Gundam used to destroy every EA unit left and right. What happened? It suddenly became lame. :sad:

4. Haha! How's it feel to be the love slave for once, Flay? :p

5. Aw, Cagalli ruined what would've been a good fight............. or intimate man-hug. :D

6. Geez, both Dearka and Cagalli were acting like stalkers, and worse, cavorting with the enemy. ;)

7. Geez, Athrun didn't even say hi to Dearka, an ex-prisoned colleague. :shrug:

8. Preview: damn, those Freedom and Justice together have a lot of guns. :eek:

[Wounded_Dragon]

When you're dealing with an entire race of people who are aware of the fact that they are superior, I'd say that possibility is very likely.
So the poor should be allowed, nay, encouraged to exterminate the wealthy? After all, most of the wealthy know how much money they have.

[Botman]

So the poor should be allowed, nay, encouraged to exterminate the wealthy? After all, most of the wealthy know how much money they have.
I never said that...

Ok, ok....I'll stop for now...

[Duke]

3. Buster Gundam used to destroy every EA unit left and right. What happened? It suddenly became lame. :sad:
Buster doesn't wanna even try to outperform Freedom and Justice, for fear of them kicking its ass for hogging the spotlight.


4. Haha! How's it feel to be the love slave for once, Flay? :p
I bet you there is a lemon somewhere where this actually happens...


7. Geez, Athrun didn't even say hi to Dearka, an ex-prisoned colleague. :shrug:
Probably happened off-screen. I mean, when they were in the hangar, everyone but Athrun was out of their pilot suit and back in uniform.

Speaking of which, if the Archangel is no longer with the EA, why bother wearing their uniform? Too bad Orb's Destiny uniforms haven't arrived yet...

[JohnCrichton]

Fantabulous episode. As usual, I saw no edits and enjoyed every single minute of the show.

Who're these new Moblie Suit pilot kids? Are the going to become on going characters?

Watching Kira and Athran fight side by side was pure motherlovin' bliss. I can't wait for the next episode.

How many more episodes do we got before the series ends?

This is the Gundam series I've alwasy wanted. :D

[VReflex76]

I'm surprised no one's seen an obvious solution to the Coordinator/Natural "problem": cross-breeding (the numbers seem appropriate)! The kids would have the genetic stability of Naturals, and keep at least some of the enhancements of the Coordinators. Pehromones seem unaffected, so attaction should go on, making clear that, espeically under bedsheets, they're all humans. That's right . . . peace through sex! ("Don't fight 'em, f*** 'em!") Hell, it seemed to be working for Flay and Kira . . .

[Duke]

Who're these new Moblie Suit pilot kids? Are the going to become on going characters?
They're the druggies, who become the main fighters of the Earth Alliance.


How many more episodes do we got before the series ends?
11 more episodes.

I love the fact that we finally saw the druggies last week, 2 weeks from now is the final intro, and we first saw them (DVD-wise) in Episode 27.

[Vagrant]

So the poor should be allowed, nay, encouraged to exterminate the wealthy? After all, most of the wealthy know how much money they have. If the wealthy trample the rights of the poor, the poor should rightfully put them in their place.

The PANT's didn't opresses anyone. PLANT cooperated with the EA until far beyond the breaking point. Every action following that is self-defensive war.

[Funkatron]

If the wealthy trample the rights of the poor, the poor should rightfully put them in their place.

The PANT's didn't opresses anyone. PLANT cooperated with the EA until far beyond the breaking point. Every action following that is self-defensive war.
Agreed.

[JohnCrichton]

They're the druggies, who become the main fighters of the Earth Alliance.

Nah, not the new kickass psycho pilots of these new beserk Gundams. I mean these new kids fighting for ORB in unremarkable mobile suits that seemed to each have some character.

Are they going to play into the story later one?

[InfinityBlade]

Nah, not the new kickass psycho pilots of these new beserk Gundams. I mean these new kids fighting for ORB in unremarkable mobile suits that seemed to each have some character.

Are they going to play into the story later one?
Oh, you mean the Astray girls. ^^ Their Mobile Suits are M1 Astrays. Their names are Asagi, Juri, and.. always forget the last one specifically... Mayura? Or something like that.

As for the question...

Not really. They're certainly THERE, but they're not really important.

[Duke]

Tis a shame too, as the Astrays look friggin sweet.

[FlyByNite77]

Oh, you mean the Astray girls. ^^ Their Mobile Suits are M1 Astrays. Their names are Asagi, Juri, and.. always forget the last one specifically... Mayura? Or something like that.

As for the question...

Not really. They're certainly THERE, but they're not really important.Yea Mayura. The three of them appear in some of the Astray manga, especially Juri(the glasses one) having more of a significant appearance.

[Disco Pete]

Muy sweet... Kira and Athrun fighting again... except this time fighting together. Which is cool, because I've always liked Athrun better than Kira anyway... as far as coolness is concerned, Athrun is second only to Mu. And Mu > *.

I think it was kinda rude of Athrun to not at least say "Hi, how you doing? It's been a while, Dearka!". But I guess D was too busy saying the wrong things to Mir.

I like the Astray girls. Seriously, I think there is too few female pilots in Gundam. The only thing I wonder when I see three female mecha pilots out there is, where's the 4th? You know, Akito? (Sorry... :sweat: )

Mu needs to kick more ***. Seriously.

Seizures result from not taking your drugs? Heck, I knew that! I've known that since I was diagnosed with Epilepsy. One wonders why the Druggies don't bring some along when they head out, I mean, that's what I do...

PSYCHO HOTTIE FLAY!!! Green is so not her color, but I doubt they'd give a red uni to a natural.

I miss Kuzzy already... he was the crybaby that made everyone else look so much more macho! :p

Rau Le Creuset, checking up on the battle for Orb. I guess he's keeping tabs, or maybe if the EA made up with ORB, then the next day they'd be fightning GINNs instead of Strike Daggers.

Thank you and Good Night!

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Great episode, Athrun really owns. A lot of nice scenes going on here, this series is awesome.

I wish Mu and Dearka had done more, but I guess having a new mech and having spent a while in the slammer can be an excuse for being a little rusty.

[lostrune]

Speaking of which, if the Archangel is no longer with the EA, why bother wearing their uniform? Too bad Orb's Destiny uniforms haven't arrived yet...
Probably because it's the only uniforms they have. And they don't want it to become Casual Fridays because the uniforms would keep some semblance of order: the ranks of the officers, who's in which divisions, the pilots vs. the mechanics, etc. Less confusion during battle when speed is a necessity.



I'm surprised no one's seen an obvious solution to the Coordinator/Natural "problem": cross-breeding (the numbers seem appropriate)! The kids would have the genetic stability of Naturals, and keep at least some of the enhancements of the Coordinators. Pehromones seem unaffected, so attaction should go on, making clear that, espeically under bedsheets, they're all humans. That's right . . . peace through sex! ("Don't fight 'em, f*** 'em!") Hell, it seemed to be working for Flay and Kira . . .
"Makie Love, Not War!" hath never rang so true. :)




The PANT's didn't opresses anyone.
If that happens, I'll side with the pressed SHIRTS. :D

[JohnCrichton]

The Justice's double-bladed sabre is awesome, btw. :D

[ToonamiFanatic]

awesome episode! loved seeing the freedom and justice together. nice background music for the fight scene at the start.

[Shogun373]

1. First of all, Coordinators would never enslave naturals because of the number superiority. To enslave the naturals they would need coordinatoras looking over them and those who now the French and Meiji Revolution know what will happen. Power to the People baby!!!

2. Second of all. Why didn't Kira and Athrun go after the Biological CPUs (druggie boys) when the effect of the drug ran out? I mean, it would be the obvious thing to do. They could get rid of the entire EA Fleet all at once.

3. I love the ZGMF-X10A Freedom. It is so awesome and it handled the three Biological CPUs so well.

Viva la Gundam!!!!!

[LightAngel]

Good episode as always. I'm going to go ahead and reinterate what everyone else has said by mentioning how awesome it was that Athrun and Kira were fighting side by side! Their little talk together was probably my favorite part of the episode. Now I know why everyone kept referring to those other pilots as "druggies". They just kept shooting at each other, it was crazy!

[raykremer]

There is a reason the current protagonists consists of defectors from both sides of the conflict.
Indeed. Earlier in the show I was bothered by having to root for EA characters when it was the EA that started the war with the Valentine thing. That problem's been solved.

It's interesting how G Seed has shaped up to be the bastard child of MSG and G Wing.

[Shogun373]

Indeed. Earlier in the show I was bothered by having to root for EA characters when it was the EA that started the war with the Valentine thing. That problem's been solved.

It's interesting how G Seed has shaped up to be the bastard child of MSG and G Wing.
Bastard child? You mean who to root for??

[kaine23]

Great episode. Some the laser sounds sounded like they were ripped from Star Wars.