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Anime Freak
01-26-2005, 07:47 PM
Sorry,but i'm not liking the current schedule at all. In fact I think its horrible, but better than what it was. I think their is way too much scooby doo, tom and jerry, and looney tunes. I swear that thats all I see on Boomerang now. I'm glad they've reduced on Flinstones/Jetsons, but what they really need to do is show some more old stuff from the 60s like they used to. And maybe even bring back Boomeraction at least??The same schedule for 5 days is alright, but how bout a different schedule for weekends,eh? Just my opinion on Boomerang right now.
~Anime Freak

Red
01-26-2005, 07:51 PM
So you'd rather have them show the Flintstones/TJ/SD ect. 3 times a day with the same episode?

TheBlueHombre
01-26-2005, 10:59 PM
You know, if Boomerang was smart, they would make the channel a mix of classic cartoons and classic television shows. A mix between the current Boomerang and TV Land, so to speak.

Warner has got a lot of classic stuff that they could supplement the current H-B cartoons with and show some grownup stuff in the evenings and late nights. Give it a 50/50 mix during the day between classic cartoons and classic TV. Wouldn't it be great to see the "Adventures of Superman" alongside "Super Friends" or "Lois and Clark" or the classic Filmation "Superman" cartoons?

It's just an idea that's been roaming around in my head.

Eric B
01-26-2005, 11:52 PM
Don't shoot me, but what they need is the Filmation library. They have almost the entire HB library, which was the bulk of cartoons from the 60s-80's, so it is incomplete without the Filmation library, which was second place in the 70's. The DFE library (3rd place) would be nice too. Sorry the merger with MGM/UA didn't go through so they would have the Pink Panthers and related series permanently.
Filmation also made several live action sci-fi shows, so since Boomerang isn't specifically desiganated "cartoons", they would fit, and it would be a bit like classic TV other than cartoons. (After all, they dwere playing Banan Splits, with its "Danger Island" segments, as well as Skatebirds.

Also, I think it is late enough to expand into the early 90's (when cable didn't yet dominate as much as it does now, so Sat. morning still had some of its magic left), so then the retro shows like Tazmania could air, (which are basically in limbo, as CN would certainly have no space for them) and then wrest the other WB related shows from Spielberg's control, and get them back from Nick. I barely got a chance to begin to start getting familiar with Animaniacs and Tiny Toons when they were yanked so quickly, and the paltry airtime CN gave them made it almost impossible. CN was going headlong into devotion to its new cartoons, but Boomergang would be the perfect place and these shows are already old enough. (I'm sure they play the newest Smurfs episodes, which ran into 1990).

JCorey3rd
01-27-2005, 01:15 PM
While I agree that they show too much Scooby-Doo and Tom and Jerry since both are still on Cartoon Network. But too much Looney Tunes? Never! I enjoy the Banana Splits at 6 a.m. (and in order). Granted I'm videotaping it. But it's nice that it's getting shown and I can watch Danger Island complete.

Also rememeber that the schedule will be changing in a couple months because with the exception of the Flintstones, these cartoons have barely 30 episodes to draw from. They rotate the titles. Boomeraction favorites will return.

Also Boomerang has been showing the Filmmation DC comics shorts (I'm guessing this was some strange settlement). It's amazing how "limited" Filmmation was in their animation. It's like each scene involves 3 seconds of the background shot solo to get more bang for their buck. These guys make Aqua Teen Hunger Force look like a 1930 Disney flick.

Boomerang doesn't have to pay for the H-B shows like other cable channels. There's no bidding war with FX for the Jetsons. It's practically free programming - I don't think anyone outside of the music department draws a royalty check. And it is through this frugal progamming that Boomerang can last five years. There's no need for it to compete with TVland - the channel stinks. They're not running Batman or the Krofft shows anymore - and when they did it was at midnight. Boomerang just needs to keep mining the H-B vaults.

the big "threat" to Boomerang is the fact that their programming is being sold directly to viewers. I own all the original Jetsons. Why would I make appointment viewing to see an episode on Boomerang? The same goes with Jonny Quest, Top Cat and Wacky Races. But so far, Syndication For One hasn't ruined the ratings for Family Guy.

Just remember that this is not a normal network - when something goes away, it will be coming back.

Eric B
01-27-2005, 02:01 PM
Also Boomerang has been showing the Filmmation DC comics shorts (I'm guessing this was some strange settlement). It's amazing how "limited" Filmmation was in their animation. It's like each scene involves 3 seconds of the background shot solo to get more bang for their buck. These guys make Aqua Teen Hunger Force look like a 1930 Disney flick.
I don't think it was any settlement; but the fact that the characters were the property of NPP/DC, and bought by WB trumped who the producers were (I remember seeing thm with the original titles back in syndication, and they were copyrighted to NPP, not Filmation). The same with the Tom & Jerry/Droopy's (they just stuck in a Droopy yesterday!), and I believe also Treasure Island and Oliver Twist, but CN hasn't shown those since the early days of the takeover.

Since these are about the only Filmation cartoons that can be regularly seen these days, I have been looking to see about this "limited animation" everyone keep talking about, but it doesn't seem any more "limited" than most other TV cartoons from the same period (except HB, and remember, they were big and had much more money). The Grantray-Lawrence Marvel cartoons seemed even more limited, as well as Jay Ward, and most anime. I think it is the backgrounds that helped the Filmation cartoons a lot and made them look way better than most of that other stuff, including most of the HB, (until they began polishing their backgrounds in the mid to late 70s!) With the limited budget they had (and keeping all work in the States) give them credit where it is due. They did what they could with what they had.
(I wonder if a lot of this is psychological. Someone influential didn't like the company back in the day; resented that they got so big using such cost-cutting measures, and then tagged them with this "limited animation" stereotype as if they were the only ones doing it. Now, we look for it, and think we are seeing something more limited than any other TV cartoon):shrug:

Oh, I also remembered, Cartoon Planet is another show that is in between. Too old and played out for CN, but this one I would say crosses the line of being too new for Boomerang. I guess that would have to rely on DVD to be seen now, but while they had released the skits on CD's, and are releasing seasons of C2C on DVD, they for some reason have neglected this show, which really has nowhere else to air now.

PeppeRaskell1
01-27-2005, 10:40 PM
Oh, I also remembered, Cartoon Planet is another show that is in between. Too old and played out for CN, but this one I would say crosses the line of being too new for Boomerang. I guess that would have to rely on DVD to be seen now, but while they had released the skits on CD's, and are releasing seasons of C2C on DVD, they for some reason have neglected this show, which really has nowhere else to air now.
Not necessarily. Some of the Cartoon Planet sketches are going to be on the upcoming Brak Show DVD.

Eric B
01-28-2005, 02:13 AM
Oh, OK. It would still be nice to have all of them, or at least several of the hours worth.

AarHan3
01-28-2005, 04:49 PM
It wouldn't hurt Boomerang to air Tom & Jerries beyond the scope of the theatrical run, even if it must accommodate a separate slot (don't shoot me, either! :D ), or even the original opening and closing titles to Magilla Gorilla and Yogi Bear... :rolleyes:

Eric B
01-29-2005, 02:09 PM
I remember they did show the original Magilla opening and closing in the beginning. (along with other shows--Including the 1965 Tom & Jerry TV show, and even some of the bumpers! (sorry I didn't have DVD+RW or DVR back then:mad: ). I forgot whether they ever showed the Yogi Opening). But lately, they have gotten lazy, and skip the openings.

Hey, how about expanding the scope of your Tom & Jerry TV site to beyond the 1975 one? :D Somebody needs to cover them (The later shows may have their flaws, but at least they restored the chase, AND the other supporting Characters! BOOM does still throw in the 1980 Droopy's once in a while).

One Radical Dude
01-29-2005, 02:24 PM
I would like Boomerang (US) to show Felix the Cat like they do in Boomerang Latin America. That would rock. More Pink Panther, too.

greg!
01-29-2005, 07:30 PM
I think it would be much better if they showed blocks of show types. Kind of like they used to with Boomeraction & Toonapalooza. If they dedicated 1 hour a day to random Scooby episodes, 1 for Flintstones, 1 for Tom & Jerry, 1 for Music themed (Josie, Banana Splits, Butch Cassidy etc), 1 for superheroes, 1 for Jonny Quest, 1 for mysteries (Clue Club, Goober & the Ghostchasers, etc) bring back the Cartoon Corral, maybe a 6-8pm block of Looney Toons, & rotate other shows in & out to fill in the other hours. They have MANY MANY shows that they hardly ever show....Mr.T , Rambo, Goldie Gold, Plasticman, all from Ruby-Spears, Huck Finn, Mightor, Biskitts, Hey, Its the King, Yogis Space Race....etc etc etc. They do not simply have to show the same shows every day.

AarHan3
02-03-2005, 03:53 PM
Hey, how about expanding the scope of your Tom & Jerry TV site to beyond the 1975 one? :D Somebody needs to cover them (The later shows may have their flaws, but at least they restored the chase, AND the other supporting Characters! BOOM does still throw in the 1980 Droopy's once in a while).
Naw...one version of Tom & Jerry is enough for one webpage for me. :shrug:

Cartoon Network's official T&J site (http://www.cartoonnetwork.com/tv_shows/tomjerry/) has a list of Filmation's 1980 T&J's, however. :cool:

Eric B
02-04-2005, 12:57 PM
That's funny. Now they have the 1980's; but not the 1990's OR even the 1960's.
Still, it would be nice for someone to have a sitelike yours with mre details on those episodes, and the Droopy's. I saw all of them when new, but most of the 30 never show now (but then again neither do most of your 48 from 1975).
Oh, and by the way, while on the subject; Tom & Jerry Kids is another early 90's show that is old enough now to move to Boomerang. There is plenty of stuff they have that they can fill the schedule with. It is nice however to be seeing the Heathcliff's again (with original openings); though he is quite an SOB.