Oscars Announced: Animation gets lots o noms, some expected, some not.

[Jave]

Animated Film:

- The Incredibles
- Shrek 2
- Shark Tale

I expected the first two, but Shark Tale!!!!??? Come on!!!


The Incredibles was also nominated for Original Screenplay, Sound, and Sound Editing.

Shrek 2 was nominated for Song ("Accidently in Love")

Polar Express was nominated for Song ("Believe"), Sound, and Sound Editing.

[Mek]

'Shark Tale'?

O...M...F...G.

That's it. The academy is a complete farce.

Shark Tale. WHY that and not 'The Polar Express'?

And we all know the Incredibles will slaughter the competition. Works for me, as I hope Shrek gets its whatfor after robbing the oscar from 'Monsters Inc' in 2002. XP

[Lord Dalek]

$5 on the Incredibles.

[Eddie G.]

Honestly I was hoping for The Incredibles to get a best picture nod. The film is really the best movie visually that I've ever seen. If Shrek 2 (Please no) gets the win it will be a sad day.

[Nick]

In case anyone's interested, here are the nominations for best cartoon short.

"Birthday Boy" (An Australian Film, TV and Radio School Production) Sejong Park and Andrew Gregory
"Gopher Broke" (A Blur Studio Production) Jeff Fowler and Tim Miller
"Guard Dog" Bill Plymton
"Lorenzo" (Walt Disney Pictures) Mike Gabriel and Baker Bloodworth
"Ryan" (A Copper Heart Entertainment & National Film Board of Canada Production) Chris Landreth

[Nin-Nin69]

Shrek 2 had an original song? I thought they just stole every popular song and had the cast sing them. :p

On another note, I hope Plympton wins.

[Juu-kuchi]

I'm tellin' ya people, the Academy will be biased at every anime film except anything that has the name "Ghibli" or "Miyazaki" in it!

Money's on The Incredibles.

[Arxane]

Shrek 2 had an original song? I thought they just stole every popular song and had the cast sing them. :p
According to the VH1 special, the Counting Crows wrote that song especially for the movie...not that I like it any. I think the song is sappy pap and I pray the it doesn't win the Oscar.

And I'm with everyone else. What weed was the Academy smoking when they nominated Shark Tale? Well, at least I can take solice in the fact that most people believe The Incredibles will win. Shrek 2's over-reliance on pop-culture references is too obvious the second time around.

[JLApe]

Consider it as a strategic attempt by the nomination committee to swing more votes towards Shrek 2 by picking its grossly inferior Dreamworks kin Shark Tale. That's my conspiracy theory, and it's the only sensible reason why the movie got nominated.

Unlike the other categories, the Best Animated Feature nominees are selected by a (very) small panel of Academy voters that view all the contenders and pick 3 (or 5, if contenders number 15 or more). I sure like to know who are in that panel.

[Mynd Hed]

I'm tellin' ya people, the Academy will be biased at every anime film except anything that has the name "Ghibli" or "Miyazaki" in it!

Eh, it's not like there were any really good theatrically-released anime films this year anyway. The only one that might've had a shot was Ghost in the Shell 2, which would've been a good pick for some of the technical awards but definitely doesn't deserve Best Animated. So I'm not exactly crying about it this year.

Everything but the Incredibles is just being nominated as a technicality, anyway. It's got the Oscar-friendly Pixar name attached to it, plus strong box office numbers, plus good critical response, plus it's strongest competition (Shrek 2) has sequel-itis. It's a no-brainer.

[Jave]

Still... I can't believe Shark Tale got the nom... I would have prefered Spongebob...

[JDWeil]

Animated Film:

- The Incredibles
- Shrek 2
- Shark Tale

I expected the first two, but Shark Tale!!!!??? Come on!!!


The Incredibles was also nominated for Original Screenplay, Sound, and Sound Editing.

Shrek 2 was nominated for Song ("Accidently in Love")

Polar Express was nominated for Song ("Believe"), Sound, and Sound Editing.

Why not Shark Tale? It was a hit movie and well done.

[Mek]

Still... I can't believe Shark Tale got the nom... I would have prefered Spongebob... While not 'teh best 2004 movie evar', I do agree.

Heck, I would have settled for 'Polar Express' too, not Shark Tale.

I feel sorry for my dad, as he had to go see ST with my little brother. The man rarely ever sees movies these days... why did it have to be that one? D=

... And if 'The Incredibles' doesn't win (yeah right, everyone knows it'll smoke the competition, unless the Academy is going for 'realistic' CG. Pfft, comparing the aesthetics of Incredibles and Shrek 2 is like apples and oranges), that will truly be one of the biggest crimes of the century. :(

[Dudley]

SHARK TALE?!

That should of been Polar Express. Ah, well, at least that movie got nominations.

[Baltofan]

Go Incredibles!
But not Shark Tale, it should had been PE!

[Hordesman]

Between Polar Express and Sharktale, I would've have gone with YGO. :evil:

[Spongebrain2.0]

WTF, NO NOMINATIONS FOR "Team America"..This is an Outrage!!!:mad:

[Artimus Gigan]

WTF, NO NOMINATIONS FOR "Team America"..This is an Outrage!!!:mad:
Because puppets arn't animation

[Carolina Red]

Not surprised to see some Incredibles nominations. I have yet to see it, but I hope to when it comes out on pay per view or disc, I have been hearing loads of good stuff about it.

[Spongebrain2.0]

Because puppets arn't animation

What about a nomination for "I'm So Ronery" or "Pearl Harbor Sucked". This is a travesty, They nominate "Shrek 2"'s terrible song over these. Bullcrap!:mad:

[TimTwoFace]

It's disgusting how SHARK TALE made this list. Seriously, it is. That cartoon was a shallow piece of average entertainment; I would've much rather seen either the Polar Express or even Spongebob make it into the third spot.

THE INCREDIBLES should win...I liked SHREK 2 a lot, but it didn't have that "wow" factor that the Incredibles had, and I think everyone agrees.

But SHARK TALE...ugh, by comparison, a horribly lame movie.

-Tim

[Xfox]

Actually, I predicted those would be the competing three. Not that I think Shark Tale is worthy of being there- it was just popular.

This one's a no-brainer. The Incredibles had more critical acclaim, has more nominations and the technical aspects were far more impressive than Shrek 2. The Incredibles is a lock for best animated feature.

[Donald Duck 12]

Like the rest of you, SHARK TALE!!! You know I'd enjoy some competition for once. Shark Tale? I'd expect Incredibles to win, but whatever I root for always loses. Shark Tale?

[JLApe]

In my previous post, I have provided one possible reason why Shark Tale got nominated. :mad:

[DarkGojira]

I, too, am disgusted about how the Polar Express didn't make it to the Best Animated Film, and Shark Tale was there!

Oh, well! At least it has nominations!

I think "Believe," by Josh Groban, has to win the "Best Song" award, because that music was beautiful in my opinion!

[Fone Bone]

What about a nomination for "I'm So Ronery" or "Pearl Harbor Sucked". This is a travesty, They nominate "Shrek 2"'s terrible song over these. Bullcrap!:mad:Not trying to be a liberal **** or anything but the climate in this country isn't exactly rife for controversial stuff. The Passion of the Christ and Farenheit 9/11 were two of the most talked about movies of the year but either because of poor strategy by Micheal Moore and Mel Gibson or because the Academy didn't want a repeat of Moore's Bowling For Columbine acceptance speech they were shut out. I AM interested in seeing the movie that swore Tery Parker and Matt Stone off of Hollywood. Something tells me a lot of effort went into it.;)

I have an awful feeling Shrek 2 will beat The Incredibles. Monsters Inc was a ZILLION times better than the original Shrek and it still won.

[Samurai]

Eh, it's not like there were any really good theatrically-released anime films this year anyway. The only one that might've had a shot was Ghost in the Shell 2, which would've been a good pick for some of the technical awards but definitely doesn't deserve Best Animated. So I'm not exactly crying about it this year.Well GitS 2 was pretty boring, but still, the Academy is pretty biased against any anime not from Miyazaki. I mean, Tokyo Godfathers and Millenium Actress were released last year and both got snubbed over for frickin' Brother Bear!

I still think the reason why Spirited Away won was because of the film's close association with the Disney label. Even though the film was released by Disney-owned Miramax, Disney started advertising it closer under it's family brand name, in some cases even using the words "A film presented by Disney" instead of the usual "A film presented by Miramax". And second, Pixar's John Lassetter is friends with Miyazaki.

So in other words, if you're an anime creator and you don't have John Lassetteer doing commentary for your DVD, you're screwed :p

[Sharklady]

> I still think the reason why Spirited Away won was because of the film's close association with the Disney label. <

I think it won because it was easily the best animated nominee that year. Even the Academy could see that.

Darn it, if 'Shark Tale' got a nod, then 'Polar Express' certainly should've! Here's hoping that PE will at least take home the Best Song award (even if I think 'Spirit of the Season' is a lot better that 'Believe'.)

[TnAdct1]

What about a nomination for "I'm So Ronery" or "Pearl Harbor Sucked". This is a travesty, They nominate "Shrek 2"'s terrible song over these. Bullcrap!:mad: No, a travesty is the Academy snubbing the Incredibles in the Best Original Score category. :mad:

[Spongebrain2.0]

No, a travesty is the Academy snubbing the Incredibles in the Best Original Score category. :mad:
Yeah, as if The Incredibles isn't nominated for enough already:rolleyes:

As an ode of respect to "Team America", I will now sing one of their great ass songs!........"I miss you more than Micheal Bay missed the mark...when he made Pearl Harbor, I miss you more than that movie missed the point, and that's an awful lot girl, Now...now you've gone away, and all I'm tryin to say is Pearl Harbor Sucked...and I miss you........I need you like Ben Affleck needs acting school, he was terrible in that film, I need you like Cuba Gooding needed a bigger part...he's way better than Ben Affleck, and Now...all I can think about is your smile, and that shittty movie too, Pearl Harbor Sucked...and I miss you......"

[Samurai]

> I still think the reason why Spirited Away won was because of the film's close association with the Disney label. <

I think it won because it was easily the best animated nominee that year. Even the Academy could see that.True, but I also think it's chances were helped because of the reasons I mentioned. No matter how good the movie is, it's generally extremely hard to win without publicity, especially for the Best Animated Category whose voters tend to be movie fans moreso than animation fans, and are biased towards "brand" names (i.e. Pixar or Disney).

So again, the fact that Disney marketed Spirited Away closer to it's family brand than it's Miramax label, and Miyazaki's relationship with John Lasseteer certainly helped the cause.

[Classic Speedy]

If The Incredibles DOESN'T win for best animated feature, then injustice reigns supreme. It's unfortunate that Shark Tale is even on the list; I'd rather see SpongeBob in its place. Not like that would matter, since The Incredibles should win anyway. :D

[NinjaJack]

It would royally suck is SHARKTALE WON:yawn:
But does anyone notice, this the first year where all the noms are CGI isn`t it?

[Maxie Zeus]

T'ain't just hard-core animation fans feeling this way. I like the words Fametracker (http://fametracker.com/galaxy_of_fame/2005_01_26.shtml) put in Brad Bird's mouth:


Hi, I'm Brad Bird. Yeah. Great. What can I say? Thanks for the nomination for Best Animated Film. I mean, The Incredibles was pretty much the most universally loved film of the year, as well as one of the most successful. So I'd be lying if I said I wasn't kind of half-expecting some Best Picture recognition. But, you know, that's cool. It's a real honor to be going head-to-head with Shark Tale.

[Dudley]

I noticed in the past couple of years that animated movies that were runner-up nominees to better awards like best picture or best animated feature, end up getting nominated for "dinky" awards like best song.


It would royally suck is SHARKTALE WON:yawn:
But does anyone notice, this the first year where all the noms are CGI isn`t it?
The second time, actually. The first time was when they first started giving out awards for best animated feature. The nominees then were: Monsters, Inc.; Shrek; and (sigh) Jimmy Neutron: Boy Genius.

[Mek]

Not trying to be a liberal **** or anything but the climate in this country isn't exactly rife for controversial stuff. The Passion of the Christ and Farenheit 9/11 were two of the most talked about movies of the year but either because of poor strategy by Micheal Moore and Mel Gibson or because the Academy didn't want a repeat of Moore's Bowling For Columbine acceptance speech they were shut out. I AM interested in seeing the movie that swore Tery Parker and Matt Stone off of Hollywood. Something tells me a lot of effort went into it.;)

I have an awful feeling Shrek 2 will beat The Incredibles. Monsters Inc was a ZILLION times better than the original Shrek and it still won.
Ahhh, so that explains it.

And yeah, I have a horrible feeling 'Shrek 2' will win as well, if anything because it 'looks realistic'. I'm still insensed that Shrek won the oscar in 2002 when it SHOULD have gone to Monsters Inc. (Not to mention that Waking Life should have been nominated instead of Jimmy Neutron, but I digress) :(

The acadmey is full of grade a losers.

Gawd... Shark Tale over Polar Express and Spongebob. If I could give the academy a double deuce, I certainly would. XP

[Jave]

If The Incredibles doesn't win, I will give up on any kind of seriousness the Academy might have. Jim Carrey not getting a nomination was bad enough...

[Monkey12]

I've never seen Shark's Tale? Why does everyone say it's bad?

[lostrune]

I still think the reason why Spirited Away won was because of the film's close association with the Disney label. Even though the film was released by Disney-owned Miramax,
That's because Spirited Away was released under the Disney label. I specifically remember that because that's the first (and so far only) time Disney actually put its name on a Ghibli film - even on my DVD and the movie poster (http://www.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0245429/Ss/0245429/Spirited-Away-Onesheet.jpg?path=gallery&path_key=0245429). Princess Mononoke was the one released by Miramax.

"Walt Disney Studios presents... A Studio Ghibli Film...."

[Killtacular]

I'm tellin' ya people, the Academy will be biased at every anime film except anything that has the name "Ghibli" or "Miyazaki" in it!
Look I know GITS2 is pretentious but that doesn't necessarily mandate an Oscar nomination, despite the raised probability.

[Mynd Hed]

I think it won because it was easily the best animated nominee that year. Even the Academy could see that.

That and it had won so many awards prior to that point that they would've looked stupid (well, stupider than usual, and to people who can't usually see their stupidity).

[James_Batista]

I've never seen Shark's Tale? Why does everyone say it's bad?

It's a soulless, agonizingly uncreative piece of hackwork plagued with blatant product placement and horrible pop-culture gags. The story is all-too-predictable and the characters are one-dimensional stereotypes that nobody outside of pre-kindergarters would care about if it weren't for the A-list voice cast. For it to be alongside the most universally-loved movie of the year is a tragedy.

Fametracker is pretty much right, but I'll add this: it's movies like Shark Tale why animation in general is still labeled as "kiddy entertainment", and it's thanks to that very label why Pixar's gems are continually screwed over from a long-overdue Best Picture nod.

:(

[Spongebrain2.0]

I've given up on the Academy since "Blame Canada" lost to that stupid ass "Tarzan" song, sigh:rolleyes:

[Juu-kuchi]

I've given up on the Academy since "Blame Canada" lost to that stupid ass "Tarzan" song, sigh:rolleyes: They didn't have the gall to nominate "Everybody has AIDs" or "End of an Act (Pearl Harbor Sucked)" from Team America.

[Spider-Man]

It's a soulless, agonizingly uncreative piece of hackwork plagued with blatant product placement and horrible pop-culture gags. The story is all-too-predictable and the characters are one-dimensional stereotypes that nobody outside of pre-kindergarters would care about if it weren't for the A-list voice cast. For it to be alongside the most universally-loved movie of the year is a tragedy. Bingo! I can't believe this movie is up for Best Animated Feature when both The Polar Express and Spongebob Squarepants were much better than this movie could ever strive to be. I thought Shark Tale was one of the worst movies of the past year. At least this should make The Incredibles's victory all the more easier.

[Spongebrain2.0]

They didn't have the gall to nominate "Everybody has AIDs" or "End of an Act (Pearl Harbor Sucked)" from Team America.
Probably aftet Janet Jackson's "Nipplegate", The Academy was afraid that if Trey Parker or Matt Stone DID win, they would go up on stage and do something so hideously vulgar and outrageous, it would make the whole Janet Jackson incident seem like wholesome entertainment!:p

[JLApe]

Bingo! I can't believe this movie is up for Best Animated Feature when both The Polar Express and Spongebob Squarepants were much better than this movie could ever strive to be. I thought Shark Tale was one of the worst movies of the past year. At least this should make The Incredibles's victory all the more easier.More likely it's going to help Shrek 2 since the third nominee isn't good enough to foil it. Had a better movie be nominated in place of Shark Tale, Shrek 2 would have a tougher struggle against both it and The Incredibles. But with Shark Tale being nominated, it's only opponent is The Incredibles. Shark Tale is so bad that those who didn't like The Incredibles will have to vote Shrek 2.

[Spider-Man]

More likely it's going to help Shrek 2 since the third nominee isn't good enough to foil it. Had a better movie be nominated in place of Shark Tale, Shrek 2 would have a tougher struggle against both it and The Incredibles. But with Shark Tale being nominated, it's only opponent is The Incredibles. Shark Tale is so bad that those who didn't like The Incredibles will have to vote Shrek 2. I didn't even think about that. And the fact that first Shrek movie won an Oscar as well is going to boast it along some. The winner should clearly be The Incredibles but the race just got abit complicated. I really hope Brad Bird's excellent movie can pull out a win.

[TimTwoFace]

I didn't even think about that. And the fact that first Shrek movie won an Oscar as well is going to boast it along some. The winner should clearly be The Incredibles but the race just got abit complicated. I really hope Brad Bird's excellent movie can pull out a win.
It had better. I mean, even though Shrek 2 was a great film - seriously, I thought so - it wasn't original. ORIGINAL. The Oscars love original stuff - why do you think that composers that do the score for many movies in a series only could possibly get the Oscar nod for the first time? Because the music, after that first movie debuts, is not original unless there's a complete overhaul.

Shrek 2 fully deserves a nomination - even if the animated field were bigger, it was still one of the best this year. The Incredibles is definitely the most original, though. It should win, hands down.

We don't want Shrek to be the first movie series since the Godfather series that garnered two "Best Picture" films in a row, do we? :p

Oy, it's a shame that this "Best Animated Picture" category wasn't around for longer. So many better films missed out on nominations over the years; of course, Disney would have slaughtered the competition nearly every year, but still, it would've been nice.

-Tim

[Chris Wood]

Haven't seen The Incredibles yet, but it sounds great.

Saw Shrek 2, but wasn't impressed. I don't think it deserves to be here.

Haven't seen Shark Tale yet, but it looks really lame and probably shouldn't be nominated.

So how is it that GITS2 couldn't beat out Shark Tale? The critics loved it, and it's surely a more original work. Sure it had a tiny box office, but that's never stopped small arthouse films from getting nominations before.

[sterfish]

Probably aftet Janet Jackson's "Nipplegate", The Academy was afraid that if Trey Parker or Matt Stone DID win, they would go up on stage and do something so hideously vulgar and outrageous, it would make the whole Janet Jackson incident seem like wholesome entertainment!:p
If they thought that then they wouldn't have allowed Chris Rock to be the host of this year's ceremony. I wonder how long the tape delay will be this year.

As for Shark Tale getting nominated, I have a couple of comments about that. I wonder if the reason that The Polar Express wasn't nominated is because it was largely mo-capped. The big pre-release buzz about this movie was how Tom Hanks played so many characters and so on. Did all that buzz and talk from Zemeckis and Hanks hurt the film's chances?

As for GITS2...I don't think being an anime had anything to do with it not getting nominated. For all its beauty and ambition, it just wasn't an entertaining film. If Steamboy had its US release in 2004, I think that it would have definitely been nominated over Shark Tale.

As for Spongebob...maybe there is a dislike of movies made from TV shows in general. None have been nominated as of yet (and Jimmy Neutron doesn't count since it was a movie first).

[Mynd Hed]

Saw Shrek 2, but wasn't impressed. I don't think it deserves to be here.

Yeah, but I'd be hard pressed to think of anything besides the Incredibles that deserves it more. (Unless it's Polar Express-- I didn't see that one.) Sometimes nominations are based less on the merits of the nominee and more on a lack of competition.

[Terrence Briggs]

Animated Film:

- The Incredibles
- Shrek 2
- Shark Tale

I expected the first two, but Shark Tale!!!!??? Come on!!!
Remember how Paul "Sideways" Giamatti was snubbed, presumably becaause he ranked 6th out of 5?

Perhaps Shark Tale, Polar Express, and Ghost in the Shell 2 were on the bubble for the "wildcard spot", but ST got just one more vote from the committee. Not that any of those films would stand a chance against the juggernauts that be Incredibles and Shrek 2.

[Sharklady]

> I wonder how long the tape delay will be this year. <

According to an article I read in The New York Times, there's going to be a five-second tape delay. But the same article includes Chris Rock saying that he intends to keep his humor family-friendly for this occasion (though he may say something intemperate if Jamie Foxx doesn't win the Best Actor award.)