ooohhhhhhh noooo!! booo!! booo!

[ZorBrak]

nnnnnnnnnnnnoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooo!! Batman Year One? with the joker and catwoman? why!? why!? why!? this contridicts the rest of the movie series, if it is infact based on it, and if its not this one deosnt sound much better, Batman Year One, means NO JOKER, wasn't the comic centered around an Italian Mob Family? Why does warner always screw us over?! whats this Joker in year one crap?? and I heard he wanted to set it in the 70s...dear God help us...we are in for another crappy batman movie me thinks.... :(
THE JOKER WAS NOT IN YEAR ONE SO LAY OFF DONT COME IN HERE TRYING TO GIVE ME A BS SPEECH LIKE YOU KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT BATMAN

[The Guard]

[edited]The pilot you just described was the essence of Batman, not the rubber suited joker that Schumacher gave us...and you just said the opposite of what most Batfans feel...

[Calhoun07]

Please be nice! No need to call people names.

I am not brushed up on my official Batman cannon, but I thought Joker was always the first villian Batman came in contact with. Why wouldn't he appear in a year one story?

As for the previous movie you're thinking of, I didn't think the new movie was supposed to be building on that franchise but rebooting it. I might be wrong.

[Trent Lane]

Why are you worried about continuity? Batman and Robin pretty much ruined that whole idea. I'm all for this new idea. BRING IT ON!!!

[Karkull]

Joel Schumacher has reduced the once proud Batman franchise into a nuclear wasteland. The only thing to do is to junk it and start over.

(Besides, Batman doesn't kill--it's in the essence of his character--but he was pretty trigger-happy in the first two Batman films. Plus the Joker's dead, the Penguin's dead, Two-Face's dead, etc).

I'm looking forward to this relaunch; plus, with Frank Miller on board, it's sounding pretty rosy to me.

Even though he was the [stupid] Riddler, I'd like to see Jim Carrey as the Joker. C'mon, he looks and acts just like him, plus he's got some serious movies under his belt now. I'd like to see him cut loose and play a real psychopath (he was pretty good against type in The Cable Guy)...

...However, whatever Miller does will be fine.

[Calhoun07]

I really can't picture anybody else for the Year One Joker than Jim Carrey. He's perfect.

[Clayface]

Originally posted by calhoun07
I really can't picture anybody else for the Year One Joker than Jim Carrey. He's perfect.

Dear god I hope not. If there's on actor that I despise on the surface of this planet, its Carrey. If they have him as the Year One Joker, I'm gonna slit my friggin wrists.

[Karkull]

Originally posted by Clayface
Dear god I hope not. If there's on actor that I despise on the surface of this planet, its Carrey. If they have him as the Year One Joker, I'm gonna slit my friggin wrists.

Why? I understand personal taste and all, but that's a pretty extreme response.

[Calhoun07]

Aw, come on, he was good as the Grinch! I do like him in everything I've seen with him, but I know people who hate his movies but liked him in that.

I might know where Clayface is coming from, though. I would have had the same reaction if Lucas made Leonardo DiCaprio Anikin Skywalker in Attack of the Clones. Seriously, there is no way I would have watched that movie with him in it. I refuse to watch anything with DiCaprio and I also refuse to watch any movie with Julia Roberts in it. I wouldn't kill myself if they landed in a movie I wanted to see, tho...

[Clayface]

Originally posted by Karkull


Why? I understand personal taste and all, but that's a pretty extreme response.


Why do I hate him? He's obnoxious, and has no friggin talent. The guy is a lame hack that doesn't deserve a dime of the money he's gotten in his "career" - IMO of course. ;)

Why would I slit my wrists if they chose him? Because I have a lot of hope for this movie. Frank Miller is one of my favorite writers, and Aronofsky is one of my favorite directors. To see Carrey drawn into something that has such potential dashes all those hopes for me.

[Calhoun07]

that's cool. So who would you pick as Joker?

[Calhoun07]

I just wanted to say if they are going for a young Batman here, a Smallville type feeling with this movie, I would pick Seann William Scott (Road Trip, Dude Where's My Car, American Pie) as the young Joker. I don't know if he'd work out for the role or be the one they would want to pick, but I could almost see him in that role.

[Clayface]

I don't have any idea who I'd choose as a Year One Joker. All I know is who I wouldn't choose, and that's Carrey! ;)

[Karkull]

Okay...

:confused:

Once you get past the talking butt cheeks and facial contortions, I think that Jim Carrey is a very good actor. He's just kind of "typecast" by the public as a big walking spazm.

But, hey, I can respect it if you don't like him. There are a bunch of actors I can't stand either.

Back to Batman: Year One. They mentioned Catwoman as well. Will this be Selina Kyle?

[NewMaxFranklin]

My "Year One" cast:

Batman- Wes Bentley
Gordon- Kevin Spacey
Catwoman- Jessica Alba
Joker- Edward Norton

[Ed Liu]

Howdy all,


Originally posted by Karkull
...However, whatever Miller does will be fine.

Sorry to disagree, but did you watch _RoboCop 2_ and _RoboCop 3_? Let's take everything that was interesting about the first movie, flush it down the john, and start pushing more cheap, easy emotional buttons than Steven Spielberg instead. While we're at it, let's put in a million, billion, zillion ninjas in the 3rd one.

I was really excited when I heard FM was doing the RoboCop movies, before I actually attempted to watch them. I hear he's disowned them since then, and I know what Hollywood does to writers, but I'm not sure I buy it entirely. On top of that, I haven't really enjoyed anything he's done since _Batman: Year One_.

I'd actually like to see _Batman: Year One_ as written in the comics. _B:Y1_ was a story about Jim Gordon, and it was a good one, too. We haven't had a Batman movie that actually focused on Batman yet, so why start now?

-- Ed

[Naraht]

Wow, since this has turned into a Joker thread, I'm suprised no one has brought up the person I think ought to play it...despite the fact that he's a tad bit old...(but that's what make up is for =]) and that's...
Mark Hamil. Duh. We know he can do the voice...he brings star power...and would make me happy.

However, I must say that when I saw Jim Carrey's performance as the Riddler, I kept wondering why they were playing him like the Joker.

[Clayface]

Originally posted by Ace the Bathound

Sorry to disagree, but did you watch _RoboCop 2_ and _RoboCop 3_?



Eh. It is true that Miller had zero creative control on the Robocop thing. Basically, he was hired as a monkey to write whatever the execs wanted. It really soured him on Hollywood in general.

Plus, you have to remember, in this case, he's writing the script from source aterial that already exists - his own work! Unless the studio meddles a lot, its going to be hard to screw that up.




On top of that, I haven't really enjoyed anything he's done since _Batman: Year One_.



Wow, really? That sucks. Can't say the same myself. The only thing of Miller's I can think of that I didn't really enjoy was Ronin. I'm huge Sin City fan, and feel that his writing has just gotten better and better. I just hope he can deliver the goods on the upcoming DK2.

[Ed Liu]

Howdy,


Plus, you have to remember, in this case, he's writing the script from source aterial that already exists - his own work! Unless the studio meddles a lot, its going to be hard to screw that up.

Notice how the spoiler posted on the main news page mentioned the Joker and the Batmobile? Notice how neither one shows up (or would even fit) in the original _Batman: Year One_ story? Never, never underestimate the power of studio meddling. I'd love to see a good adaptation of _Batman: Year One_ as much as anybody, but I'd also love a GameCube, a 42" flat-panel plasma TV, and a really good chocolate milkshake. Wishing really hard isn't going to make it happen ('cept maybe the milkshake part). I am increasingly thinking that good movies out of today's Hollywood system are anomalies, released accidentally by the studios who'd rather spend their money making more vomit to spew on us as "entertainment."

Now, if FM were to write a script that stuck strictly to the comic and they produced a 4-part animated series on Cartoon Network, THAT would be something I'd pay money for. I thought TNBA's take on _The Dark Knight Returns_ was terrific.


Wow, really? That sucks. Can't say the same myself. The only thing of Miller's I can think of that I didn't really enjoy was Ronin. I'm huge Sin City fan, and feel that his writing has just gotten better and better. I just hope he can deliver the goods on the upcoming DK2.

Hm. All a matter of taste, I suppose. I hated the _Martha Washington_ stuff he did for Dark Horse, since it was about as subtle as a banana wrapped around a sledgehammer. I thought _Hard Boiled_ was amazing to look at and didn't make any damn sense at all ("Coherency? We don' got no coherency. We don' NEED' no coherency. WE DON' HAF' TO SHOW YOU NO STEEKIN' COHERENCY!"). I thought Sin City had style, but didn't hit anywhere near the heights of FM's _Batman_ work. I'm actively afraid of _DK2_, but I'll probably try to read a copy at least before judging it out of hand. Other than those titles, what else has he been up to?

BTW, has anybody else out there noticed the similarities between _Ronin_ and the premiere of _Samurai Jack_?

-- Ed/Ace

[Trent Lane]

I like the Sean William Scott idea. Maybe a more Jack Napier kinda role, something totally different from what you're used to seeing him in, real dark and serious. Towards the middle of the movie have the transition to the Joker character. And what story are they going to use for Catwoman? Jessica Alba would do a good job with that, I think

[Failure]

Originally posted by calhoun07
I really can't picture anybody else for the Year One Joker than Jim Carrey. He's perfect.

Actually I've thought pretty much the same thing. I thought Jim Carrey would do a better raving lunatic like the Joker rather than someone I perceive as more calculating and reserved like the Riddler.

[ZorBrak]

<<The pilot you just described was the essence of Batman, not the rubber suited joker that Schumacher gave us...and you just said the opposite of what most Batfans feel..>>



You seem to know what your talking about real well don't you? I HATE SHUMACHERS BATMAN HOW DARE YOU SAY THAT! SO BACK OFF, NEITHER THE JOKER OR THE BATMOBILE WERE IN THE YEAR ONE PLOTLINE SO DONT TELL ME I DONT KNOW WHAT IM SAYING.
ALL I AM SAYING IS THAT THEY SHOULD EITHER TRY TO SALVAGE THE OLD SERIES OR BETTER YET RESTART IT BASING IT OFF THE YEAR ONE COMIC, IT IS CALLED YEAR ONE IT SHOULD BE BASED ON YEAR ONE MEANING NO JOKER END OF STORY.

[Maxie Zeus]

Okay guys. Calm down. There is absolutely no call for yelling in these forums. If you can't make your point in a calm and reasoned manner, don't say anything at all.

[Kal-el]

As much as I like Batman, a Year One movie does not grab my interest. That could change depending on how it's done, but the concept doesn't seem that interesting to me. That probably puts me in the minority, I know.
I'm really not sure what concept would work best for a Batman film. Whatever it is, it should n;t be rushed and it should be carefully developed. Another disappointing film would be disheartening to say the least (same goes for a Superman movie).

[Failure]

What was the proposed Bruce Wayne series supposed to focus on? His training up to the point of Year One or from Year One on? Did they even get that far in the ideas stage?

[optimal321]

Originally posted by Kal-el
As much as I like Batman, a Year One movie does not grab my interest. That could change depending on how it's done, but the concept doesn't seem that interesting to me. That probably puts me in the minority, I know.
I'm really not sure what concept would work best for a Batman film. Whatever it is, it should n;t be rushed and it should be carefully developed. Another disappointing film would be disheartening to say the least (same goes for a Superman movie).

Year One was a fantastic comic book. But i don't think that it'd translate too well to the big screen. Well, it probably could, but i'm betting the execs are really pushing for a story w/ more action and grand feats, than what the comic was about. Which is probably why they want Joker and a batmobile. But i have hope that this movie will go well. After all, it can't get any worse than the last one we've seen!

[The Guard]

Ok...Zorbrak...

The Batman franchise as we know it is dead. Schumacher mortally wounded it, and WB put the lid on the coffin when they didn't make a movie till at least 2003. That's six years after Batman & Robin. And that's too much time to assume that it can be revived.

also...

YEAR ONE had The Joker. At the end...Gordon is standing there thinking about how a madman has threatened to poisen Gotham reservoir. He says he calls himself The Joker. Anyway...

Year One was about Batman running around fighting the mob, and the Gotham PD. And it introduced Harvey Dent. Yes...it never showed a Batmobile, but are we to believe that he didn't have some kind of transportation? I'd like to see a Year One like the comic too...but it ain't gonna happen. There will never be a direct adaption of the Batman mythos, and that's cool. As long as they keep the essence of the character, I'm good...

[Karkull]

Even if the Joker wasn't "really" in Batman: Year One, maybe it's a nod to the fact that both Catwoman and the Joker both made their first appearances in Batman #1 (Golden Age version).

Besides, they don't have to work together--Batman does work on more than one case at once.

[TerryMcGuiness]

Eh.

For me, the flashback scenes in Mask of the Phantasm alone were 100 times cooler than the whole of Batman Year One. Alot less boring to.

Still, I'd be willing to give the movie a shot because at least now theres at least an intention of quality being put forth in a Batman film.

Still, for a real Batman movie, I'd have Paul Dini scripting, and Alex Ross doing costume design. With Bruce Timm doing storyboarding for sequences and constribuitng other design ideas.

[The Guard]

I do think Paul Dini should have gotten a crack at it. He was supposed to script a Batman Beyond live action flick.

MY dream Batman movie...

Call it "Batman".

Paul Dini writing and directing...

Alex Ross providing concept design...

MAIN CHARACTERS

Batman: Let's give him a car this time out. A simple black roadster with fins. And have him use regular batarangs, smoke bombs, etc...No CO2-powered grapples...focus on the striking from the shadows. "From this moment on...None of you are safe..."

James Gordon: A new cop in Gotham. One of the few non corrupt ones. Downplay the affair...

Harvey Dent: Obsessed with justice. Thought to be Batman. We see his tendencies toward split personality, and it's hinted/foreshadowed he will become Two-Face. Maybe he gets his coin...etc...no acid yet.

The Roman: The head of the mob. Bent on wiping out competition...

Catwoman: NOT A DAMNED PROSTITUTE. A catburglar, doing it for the thrill. More of a Jim Balent-era origin...

The Joker: A homicidal madman. Leave his origin a mystery.

Alfred: Major role. Adjusting to Bruce's Batcapades...

INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING

Batman vs. the Gotham SWAT team

Wayne murder flashback

Batman using DETECTIVE SKILLS

a young Harvey Bullock...

a mention of Superman.


It's basically BATMAN: Year One tweaked. Leads into Batman 2 which wiill feature Two-Face and Robin...and a Jeph-Loeb/Tim Sale rogues gallery appearance type dealie.

[Karkull]

I'd like to see the the Roman make an appearance. It would be kind of cool to see the organized crime families fall and be replaced by the costumed lunatics.

[Trent Lane]

All I want for now is a solo Batman movie, year one or not. Basically, a rebuilding of the whole Batman franchise. If they're gonna use Robin on down the road, follow TNBA lead: make him a kid. I know, kids ruin most good movies, but in this case it would work. Just something that doesn't invovle Schumacker, I'm cool with that...

[The Old Maid]

Originally posted by The Guard
MY dream Batman movie...

Agreed, mostly, with a few exceptions:

Bats can invent the grapples and Gordon invent the signal, but they cannot begin with them. The tools and the relationship should be a work in progress.

The car : huge but minimalist. Like Batman, it should only hint at the power under the hood. Not all the frills -- even the new Batmobile is too frou-frou for a serious crimefighter. (See its own thread for sketches.) Fortunately that sketch isn't locked in just yet.

Lots of Jim Gordon. Miller and Greg Rucka are just about the only writers to spend months, even years, exploring this character. Fans buy into same notion as Jim's foes -- that he's just a patsy who couldn't run for dogcatcher without Batman's help. That is oh so wrong.

It wouldn't kill them to choose an actor who actually LOOKS like the BTAS Two-Face. Give this character the dignity and calculation that Moll's voice and Timm's design did.

NO mention of Superman. He's got two series on the air. Let him get his own movie.

I have a bigger concern about so many calls for Paul Dini to swoop in, Batman-style, and rescue the film. It implies the film NEEDS saving. Miller has had 15 years to mull over how he'd bring Year One to screen. Let's give him a chance, shall we? Yes, his Catwoman-as-dominatrix was way out in left field. I'd guess there aren't five fans who loved it. It robbed her of her dignity. If he's been paying attention he won't do it again. He's a lifelong fanboy and made Timm and Dini's series possible, by making the Burton films possible. I guess I'm just puzzled at the Dini worship. Don't like something Miller did? Call Dini. Don't like something Miller MIGHT do? Call Dini. Don't like Justice League so far? Call Dini. Look, the guy's brilliant -- he's written some of my favorite eps -- but he's written a few bowwows as well. When he does, fanboys give him the benefit of the doubt. Someone else? Not as generous. I don't know why.

I'm willing to give Miller a chance. Of course if he blows it, the fans will spontaneously combust. If the Grand Old Man can't deliver, we'll never get another one. Or at least not for 20 years.

[Karkull]

True--"call Dini" is a repeated mantra here--but his record still stands as having some--some, not all--of the best Batman stories written in recent memory.

But you are right, he's also written some of the worst.

[Clayface]

Originally posted by The Old Maid

I have a bigger concern about so many calls for Paul Dini to swoop in, Batman-style, and rescue the film. It implies the film NEEDS saving. Miller has had 15 years to mull over how he'd bring Year One to screen. Let's give him a chance, shall we?



Amen!




Yes, his Catwoman-as-dominatrix was way out in left field. I'd guess there aren't five fans who loved it.



I totally disagree. Until I read about it on these boards, I've never known anyone that didn't like that aspect of Miller's story! Everyone I've ever known personally that read the story loved the fact that Catwoman came from a darker background, and most commented that this was one of their favorite parts. I think you greatly underestimate the number of people that are fans of this.

[Maxie Zeus]

Originally posted by The Old Maid
I have a bigger concern about so many calls for Paul Dini to swoop in, Batman-style, and rescue the film.

Well said. I yield to no one in my admiration of Paul Dini, but I think JL pretty much demonstrates that his presence is not necessary, and that Timm was and is the true guiding force behind the various series.

[Dark Knight]

Im not a big fan of type casting, and 9 out of ten times the best people for the parts I get excited about are people I've never heard of.

I definately would not want to see Jim Carrey as the Joker. Not only would it be weird for him to do both Joker and Riddler, but just because he can be wacky doesnt make him the Joker.

And Mark Hammil? While he is the absolute perfection of the Joker's voice I personnaly dont even know if i can picture that voice coming out of a live action Joker (say Jack Nickolaus's Joker for example.)

All in all I hope the casting is done very open mindedly and some no names come out and blow us all away.

[Heehaw]

Director Aronofsky once said that not the Year One movie would not necessarily be the same as the mini-series.

This guy is going to give us the Batman movie we've all been waiting for, that is if the studio doesn't get involved. Look at his other 2 films, Pi and Requiem for a Dream. Pure masterpieces. Imagine a Batman film like those(in terms of look and the way it is shot, not the experimental nature of them). I doubt WB will let him get away with too much, though more crazy things have happened.

[James Harvey]

While I can't wait for the movie Afronsky will brin gus, I can't help but feel sorry for him. WB is gonna press him very hard becuase this film has to be able to sell toys and fast food tie-ins. I really hope he can work around that, I really do. His past two movies have been cinematic masterpeices. I know he can pull this off.

[mgibson72]

Someone above mentioned Kevin Spacey as Commissioner Gordon...I think he would be PERFECT as the new Joker. He's got enough barely contained fury and craziness that he could pull it off in a heartbeat.

[X-human]

Kind of shows how much of a white bread this forum is when people get all up in arms that in their past someone was onces a hooker. I didn't think it was a fantastic idea nore a horrible idea, I just accepted it because to me it works.

But when was the last time you saw something go cover to cover right on the silver screen? Even the last draft of a movie script never reads quite like the final movie. I wouldn't want to see a movie done cover to cover anyways because, hey, I already read the damn thing. It's also a chance for the writer to update their tale, new ideas that have popped in the author's head since their work was printed. So there's a batmobile and The Joker get's to show his grin once or twice. It's just a movie guys, if you can do better, do so and stop running to Paul Dinni for the rescue. I think maybe he wants to do more that Bats.

[Maxie Zeus]

Originally posted by X-human
Kind of shows how much of a white bread this forum is when people get all up in arms that in their past someone was onces a hooker.

Well, I think people were reacting less to the "hooker" aspect than to the fact that Selena was no longer a sexy socialite. She always brought a touch of class to her stories, and that was definitely missing from the treatment she got in "Year One."

[Clayface]

Originally posted by Maxie Zeus


Well, I think people were reacting less to the "hooker" aspect than to the fact that Selena was no longer a sexy socialite. She always brought a touch of class to her stories, and that was definitely missing from the treatment she got in "Year One."

That's probably the entire reason I liked the Year One version over the others - I've never bought the whole socialite aspect of her personality. It just never fit for me, and the prostitute aspect seemed to explain her and her personality so much better.

[Maxie Zeus]

Originally posted by Clayface


That's probably the entire reason I liked the Year One version over the others - I've never bought the whole socialite aspect of her personality. It just never fit for me, and the prostitute aspect seemed to explain her and her personality so much better.

I like the treatment in "Year One" just fine, and the change in her past and circumstance fits into the story there very well. But I do recognize that it's a major change, and can easily understand people resenting it.

[JusticeLeagueLegion]

Originally posted by calhoun07
Please be nice! No need to call people names.

I am not brushed up on my official Batman cannon, but I thought Joker was always the first villian Batman came in contact with. Why wouldn't he appear in a year one story?



Here's why: Joker first met Batman in "Batman" starring Keaton and Nicholson. If they make Joker in it they destroy the story and screw up continuity like they did with Smallville!

[Karkull]

Originally posted by JusticeLeagueLegion
Here's why: Joker first met Batman in "Batman" starring Keaton and Nicholson. If they make Joker in it they destroy the story and screw up continuity like they did with Smallville!

But do we really need to follow continuity? If that's the case, then why screw up continuity by having Tim Burton's Batman film be different from the 60s T.V. show? It happened as well.

[Calhoun07]

The Michael Keaton movie hardly follows true Batman continuity, so if you're going to be upset at Smallville for reimagining things, be upset at the Batman movie, too.

In DC cannon, the Joker was an average lab worker who never got noticed. He schemed to steal a million dollars and planned to fade back into his life of normality and obscurity, figuring nobody would notice he was the mastermind behind the million dollar theft. He actually started out as the Red Hood, wearing a metallic mask that covered his head and a red cape and a tuxedo. It wasn't until an encounter with Batman that Red Hood evaded capture by leaping into a vat of toxic waste, and we all know how that transformed him into the Joker. He took on a new identity when he discovered how the toxic waste transformed him, taking on the identity of the Joker because he was attempting to rob a playing card company when he was almost captured by Batman.

So there have been liberties taken with Batman thru the years, and with the Joker. The Joker also died at the end of the Batman movie, yet nobody is claiming that is continuity so therefore all appearances of the Joker since then shouldn't be.

The Joker first appeared in Batman #1, so I don't see any reason why he couldn't be in a Year One story and still maintain continuity with the rest of Batman cannon better than the Batman movie did.

[Clayface]

Originally posted by calhoun07

In DC cannon, the Joker was an average lab worker who never got noticed. He schemed to steal a million dollars and planned to fade back into his life of normality and obscurity, figuring nobody would notice he was the mastermind behind the million dollar theft.



Well, that's one take on it anyway. He's also been portrayed as a comedian who fell in with a bad crowd because he needed money. He was given the Red Hood mask and in one heist ended up in the vat of chemicals and because the Joker.

But whatever his true origin, your point still stands - there's been a lot of liberty taken with him.




The Joker first appeared in Batman #1, so I don't see any reason why he couldn't be in a Year One story and still maintain continuity with the rest of Batman cannon better than the Batman movie did.


But was Batman #1 considered to be taking place in Batman's first year? I've never actually read it, so I wouldn't know. But Batman's first years were portrayed, I would think, in his first appearances in Detective.

[Calhoun07]

Actually, I don't know either! Anybody who's read the old archived comics can you fill us in on the early Batman time line? I don't even know what the gap in time was from the time Detective Comics #27 came out to the time we saw Batman #1 come out.

[The Game]

Consider Batman: Year One a relaunch of the series: completly seperate from Keaton/Burton. The others are right: if you connect these two then you must connect all Batman universe which makes no sense. I mean, Joker was created and killed in Batman, but the character isn't dead. We don't complain that B: TAS has Joker, do we?

[The Guard]

The early Batman comics had Batman squaring off against mad scientists and vampiric monks.

He didn't meet up with Joker until Batman #1 came out. The Joker never appeared in Detective Comics before that.

[The Guard]

Batman appeared Detective Comics in 1939. Batman #1 came out in 1941...

[GrayGhost]

I wish they would make one with Mad Hatter and Scare Crow !!!!!!!!!

[JusticeLeagueLegion]

Originally posted by Karkull


But do we really need to follow continuity? If that's the case, then why screw up continuity by having Tim Burton's Batman film be different from the 60s T.V. show? It happened as well.

That's different...the Batman (with Adam West) TV Show was Pre-Crisis...so it doesn't really matter...I'm just tired of WB creating new universes.

[Calhoun07]

I say let the comics tell the story in continuity, let the movie take a few liberties. After all, we all know that there are things in every comic book that wouldn't translate well to the screen, and the same with Batman. It would be a literal night mare to sit down to write a movie that preserves continuity of the comics, retains elements of the comics in the film, and still put together something that will appeal to a broad range of people.

I say let the Batman Year One movie stand on it's own. Think of it as Elseworlds, if it helps you. As long as it's good, I am not going to get up in arms if it is entirely technically on track with what we read in the comics. Name one superhero TV show or movie that was, out side of fan made movies. If the movie is good, then that's great, and if the movie is good enough to bring in new viewers to Batman, they can be lead to pick up the comics and make up their own mind about the Batman continuity. But I don't expect or want WB to try to reconcile nearly 70 years of continuity for this movie just to please comic book fans. They would never cater to such a narrow audience like that.