Do the Mario! ... In DDR?

[Mek]

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/news/050107/index.html

Believe it or not. =O

EDIT: DOE the Mario?! wtf? My hands are frozen. D=
Could a mod fix the title please?

[Charlie]

Now Mario is a dance instructor. Is there anything he can't do?

An english article here. (http://cube.ign.com/articles/577/577880p1.html)

[Conekiller]

damn, JUST after I finally got the PS2 version.

[TheBaldOneMpls]

Even though I'm a total DDR mark, I'm torn. The optimist in me is jumping up and down with this. With as many good (and not-so-good) Mario songs already stepped for DWI and SM, it'll be interesting to see what Konami and the House of Mario can come up with.

The other part of me, the cynical gamer, thinks that this just adds more ammo to those who think Nintendo can't make a decent game without Mario, Link, Kirby, or Samus.

[Eddy]

I really wish they would include "Do the Mario!" but I have my doubts. =(

[William C. Maune]

The other part of me, the cynical gamer, thinks that this just adds more ammo to those who think Nintendo can't make a decent game without Mario, Link, Kirby, or Samus.

I think it was more just a way to get Konami to make a DDR for GameCube.

[Andrew T. Hingson]

Smash Bros. DDR would be better. I hope I can at least select Luigi.

Anyway... I've been waiting for a Nintendo exclusive DDR game for quite some time (a REAL one, not the MadCats game). Hopefully it'll have some kick'n remixes Nintendo game music.

[Dogbert]

I'm almost certain Do The Mario is owned by Dic, but it sure would be great. It will be interesting to see if any real songs will be included. Donkey Konga included a lot a great songs - I know this will be made by Konami, but maybe Nintendo's music selection skills will rub off on them.

[Nin-Nin69]

Is there any hope of this reaching the States? We don't even know that yet.

[Opaque]

Is there any hope of this reaching the States? We don't even know that yet.
Of course it's going to come here.

There hasn't been a console Mario game that hasn't come out here since the original version of Mario Bros 2. And even that eventually made it's way over in the All Stars compelation.

[Nin-Nin69]

Of course it's going to come here.

There hasn't been a console Mario game that hasn't come out here since the original version of Mario Bros 2. And even that eventually made it's way over in the All Stars compelation.
Oh really?

http://www.classicgaming.com/tmk/japan.shtml

[Behonkiss]

Seeing how popular DDR is over here, and how Donkey Konga sold reasonably well, I can almost guarantee a stateside release.

And despite all the griping I've made over DK's recent switch to bongo-based gameplay, I have nothing negative to say about this, because I love DDR and also because Mario has been whored out so much I don't care what games he's in.

[Opaque]

Oh really?

http://www.classicgaming.com/tmk/japan.shtmlGuess I was wrong, one game (Mario's Photopy) on the N64 didn't.

Anyway, EB already has this in their computers. It's coming state side.

[Weatherman]

So now we get GCN dance pads eh? I might actually start playing DDR now.....maybe.:sweat:

[Eddy]

I'll sure be getting this. I'd much rather have an official DDR game rather than a crappy MadCatz copy.

[Zyzzybalubah]

Man, why don't these companies do these things until after I buy the inferior products. :( I was waiting desperately for a GC DDR and with Mario makes it better. :)

[Tash]

Well, we may as well import it anyway. Foriegn music games ALWAYS have licencing problems when they come to the states. Look at Donkey Konga, or DDR USA mix. Heck, look at what they did to poor DDR Disney mix.

Anyway, I MAY need to pick up a freeloader.

[Juu-kuchi]

I want Mario to dance to "Drop the Bomb". Do not deprive me of that.

[Invader_Spooch]

My gawd, Mario has sunk to an all new low.

I really don't see why they have to throw Mario into EVERYTHING. I mean, couldn't they just put a DDR game on the GC like every other system? I really hope Konami doesn't make a habit of whoring out their products to Nintendo in this fashion (I've come to rely on their products quality over the years, being my favorite company and whatnot).

[Jave]

Why do I have the feeling that this is going to be a compilation of all the Happy-Go-Lucky songs from DDR? (Break Down, Candy, etc.)

Still, they better include the music from Choco Mountain from Mario Kart 64. They better do.

[Eddy]

My gawd, Mario has sunk to an all new low.

I really don't see why they have to throw Mario into EVERYTHING. I mean, couldn't they just put a DDR game on the GC like every other system? I really hope Konami doesn't make a habit of whoring out their products to Nintendo in this fashion (I've come to rely on their products quality over the years, being my favorite company and whatnot).
Just because Konami is putting Mario in it doesn't mean it's going to be any less quality than previous DDR games.

[Invader_Spooch]

Just because Konami is putting Mario in it doesn't mean it's going to be any less quality than previous DDR games.
We will have to wait and see on that, though I'm not too optimistic.

[T.T.Raven4]

YES! It's finally coming! I've been waiting for a DDR for GC since the beggining! YES YES YES! I better be able to be Bowser Jr, or someones gonna die. :D I can't wait! Does anyone know a release date? In the States or anywhere?

[PaQ]

First Mario and company on the bball court, and now Mario's got his own dance thing going. Very interesting idea, and I guess I shouldn't be surprised seeing as there's Mario Tennis, Mario Golf, I guess it was just a matter of time before Mario threw his hat into the dancing arena.

[Tash]

Why do I have the feeling that this is going to be a compilation of all the Happy-Go-Lucky songs from DDR? (Break Down, Candy, etc.)Good, I'm sick of how techno-crazy the Max games are. Back in 4th/5th mix, you had lots of upbeat stuff, and lots of techno. Now it's just techno with a bit of eurobeat.

[Dogbert]

First Mario and company on the bball court, and now Mario's got his own dance thing going. Very interesting idea, and I guess I shouldn't be surprised seeing as there's Mario Tennis, Mario Golf, I guess it was just a matter of time before Mario threw his hat into the dancing arena.Don't forget Mario Baseball! That's a 2005 release too.

[RAINMAN]

So does this mean if they port Rumble roses to the GC konami will include peach,zelda and samus into the game?

[Invader_Spooch]

So does this mean if they port Rumble roses to the GC konami will include peach,zelda and samus into the game?
Ew, dude. Just ew.:ack:

Being an N fan is one thing (totally fine) but the LAST thing I want to see is any Nintendo female in that....thing (ugh, and I like Konami)...

[RAINMAN]

It`s not like N would really let any of their char be used in such a way. And after destroying contra, I lost all love for konami.:sad:

[Invader_Spooch]

It`s not like N would really let any of their char be used in such a way. And after destroying contra, I lost all love for konami.:sad:
Contra hasn't been good for a LONG time. Though they more than redeem themselves with series like Silent Hill, Metal Gear, ZoE, Boktai, DDR, YuGiOh (though the video games are mediocre, the card game is STILL good), Castlevania (Aria of Sorrow and SotN were masterpieces), Shadow Of Destiney, Silent Scope arcade, Suikoden, Bloody Roar, Lifeline etc....

[Weatherman]

So does this mean if they port Rumble roses to the GC konami will include peach,zelda and samus into the game?

Well, maybe Samus.......:sweat:

[Invader_Spooch]

Well, maybe Samus.......:sweat:Arg, I am so sick of people trying to sexualize Samus. She has been just about the only video game female lead that wasn't sexualized to the point of being hoed out, and I am fed up with people disrespecting the character in that way. Being female has never been what she was about (just a tough as nails bounty hunter who just happened to be female, though it was barely even mentioned), and there is no reason to make here just another generic scantilly clad female to lust after. I feel awful for those who at one point looked up to Samus as a child (she was my fiance's role model as a kid). Jeez, and then you guys wonder why there aren't more female gamers (seeing as there are little or no female role models in games that aren't disrespectfully sexualized).

[Nin-Nin69]

Contra hasn't been good for a LONG time. Though they more than redeem themselves with series like Silent Hill, Metal Gear, ZoE, Boktai, DDR, YuGiOh (though the video games are mediocre, the card game is STILL good), Castlevania (Aria of Sorrow and SotN were masterpieces), Shadow Of Destiney, Silent Scope arcade, Suikoden, Bloody Roar, Lifeline etc....


Contra:SS and Neo Contra were awsome! :mad:

[Weatherman]

Arg, I am so sick of people trying to sexualize Samus. She has been just about the only video game female lead that wasn't sexualized to the point of being hoed out, and I am fed up with people disrespecting the character in that way. Being female has never been what she was about (just a tough as nails bounty hunter who just happened to be female, though it was barely even mentioned), and there is no reason to make here just another generic scantilly clad female to lust after. I feel awful for those who at one point looked up to Samus as a child (she was my fiance's role model as a kid). Jeez, and then you guys wonder why there aren't more female gamers (seeing as there are little or no female role models in games that aren't disrespectfully sexualized).
I didn't mean it that way. I was joking. It's just that our of the three names she's the only one who even comes close to fitting the game, and you can't tell me she wouldn't totally smoke everyone in that game. It must take alot of strength to move that poweer suit.

[Dogbert]

It must take alot of strength to move that poweer suit.How do you know it's not like Iron Man's suit? She might be very weak without the suit and it uses its own power to move; she sure wasn't much for fighting without it in Zero Mission.

[Master Moron]

Arg, I am so sick of people trying to sexualize Samus. She has been just about the only video game female lead that wasn't sexualized to the point of being hoed out, and I am fed up with people disrespecting the character in that way. Being female has never been what she was about (just a tough as nails bounty hunter who just happened to be female, though it was barely even mentioned), and there is no reason to make here just another generic scantilly clad female to lust after. I feel awful for those who at one point looked up to Samus as a child (she was my fiance's role model as a kid). Jeez, and then you guys wonder why there aren't more female gamers (seeing as there are little or no female role models in games that aren't disrespectfully sexualized).

It might help if Samus, like, had a personality.

[Zyzzybalubah]

First off, I highly doubt Nintendo is going to sexualize Samus and quite personally, I think that she is fine the way she is. She's just a mysterious bounty hunter. I'll admit, they do need some voice acting in future Metroid Prime games, but other than that it's fine how it is.

I still like Konami, but they aren't as great as developers as they used to be back in the 16-bit era, IMO. The Castlevania titles aren't as fun as the 8/16 bit titles, they used to make awesome licensed titles (Ninja Turtles, Simpsons, Tiny Toons) now if they have a licensed title I feel like shouting "Run to the hills, it's gonna blow!" Both Ninja Turtles titles have been mediocre and uh... CyGirls? Silent Hill is fun, but doesn't hold a candle to Resident Evil. But they made DDR and that's great (especially for exercise) and Karaoke Revolution is good.

I think it's cool that Konami is going to have Mario in DDR, but yeah I feel bad for Nintendo if this is the only way they'll attract third parties. And I wouldn't be surprised if this version of DDR gets lighter, maybe more child-friendly music.

[guinaevere]

This is a must have. Love DDR, and this will be cute.


Well, maybe Samus.......:sweat:Don't know why, but that made me think that one could pretty much get as good a work out doing Vanessa's moves from PNo3.

[Master Moron]

First off, I highly doubt Nintendo is going to sexualize Samus and quite personally, I think that she is fine the way she is. She's just a mysterious bounty hunter. I'll admit, they do need some voice acting in future Metroid Prime games, but other than that it's fine how it is.


No, in my opinion the Metroid games won't be fine until they realize that Metroid doesn't work as a 3rd person shooter. The point of view when you're in the ball is great, why can't they let you play the whole game that way?The game really needs a setting to be able to change the camera views...

Oh, yeah, and as I said before, Samus needs to buy herself a personality.

[RAINMAN]

Samus has a personlity. Shes a loner. I do agree mertiod is batter offas a 2D game not that the 3D ones are bad or anything. I`m just old fashion. Which is why I don`t like konami anymore. They appended their old ways for the mainstreme. Like mertiod, castlevania is better off as a 2D series. I could carless for mature games like MGS,SH or DDR. Come to think of it,I barly even dance.:sweat:

[Artimus Gigan]

Samus has a personlity. Shes a loner. I do agree mertiod is batter offas a 2D game not that the 3D ones are bad or anything. I`m just old fashion. Which is why I don`t like konami anymore. They appended their old ways for the mainstreme. Like mertiod, castlevania is better off as a 2D series. I could carless for mature games like MGS,SH or DDR. Come to think of it,I barly even dance.:sweat:FYI, DDR isn't even actual dancing...

it's just a mutated version of the Hokey-Pokey

[Master Moron]

Samus has a personlity. Shes a loner. I do agree mertiod is batter offas a 2D game not that the 3D ones are bad or anything.

Well, I'm glad we agree that Metroid works better in 3-D. But, I really don't see evidence that Samus is a loner. I mean, in Metroid Fusion she talked about her commander whom she was close to, but he was dead before the game started. Actually, everyone always dies in the Metroid games before the game starts. I don't see how someone can come to the conclusion that she's a loner when everyone's already dead at the start of every game. I mean, it's not like Samus can have a conversation with a corpse.

I think Nintendo is just too lazy or too stuck in the past to give Samus character development so they just make sure that everyone is killed on at the start of every Metroid game so Samus is alone. It just seems so boring to me. I kind of want to see the universe of Metroid explored more, but every game it's just Samus alone on some planet/space station where she's the only person left alive. I didn't really expect character development from the 16 bit era, but come on, Grand Theft Auto has more character development than Metroid. I'm not saying I value story more than character development, but would Grand Theft Auto be as good of a game if it didn't have a story? Probably not.

[Punisher]

Samus is a mysterious bounty hunter, that's what she is. The reason everyone is dead is because she wouldn't have to be there if they're alive. And she has a troubled past, so she chooses to hunt the space pirates and destroy all the metroids. I'll agree Metroid is better being 2-D, but the Metroid Prime games really did make the transformation from 2-D to 3-D perfect.

Back on topic, I hope DDR has some of the MArio Sunshine music in it. That games music was awesome.

[Zyzzybalubah]

Well, I'm glad we agree that Metroid works better in 3-D. But, I really don't see evidence that Samus is a loner. I mean, in Metroid Fusion she talked about her commander whom she was close to, but he was dead before the game started. Actually, everyone always dies in the Metroid games before the game starts. I don't see how someone can come to the conclusion that she's a loner when everyone's already dead at the start of every game. I mean, it's not like Samus can have a conversation with a corpse.

I think Nintendo is just too lazy or too stuck in the past to give Samus character development so they just make sure that everyone is killed on at the start of every Metroid game so Samus is alone. It just seems so boring to me. I kind of want to see the universe of Metroid explored more, but every game it's just Samus alone on some planet/space station where she's the only person left alive. I didn't really expect character development from the 16 bit era, but come on, Grand Theft Auto has more character development than Metroid. I'm not saying I value story more than character development, but would Grand Theft Auto be as good of a game if it didn't have a story? Probably not.
First, I'm fine with first person but yeah I would like Nintendo to try out a third person Metroid (not sure how good it'll be, but hey it's worth a shot.) Maybe the 2D ones are better, but hey lots of developers are sticking to making their old franchises into 3D games (Konami decided to do it with Castlevania and their second PS2 Contra) and Capcom occassionally experiences with 3D Megamans (although I agree he should remain 2D) so I highly doubt they'd make a 2D Gamecube Metroid (especially since Prime is doing fine.)

As for Samus as a loner, that's perfect. She may be associated with some groups (well how else is she going to make money, she's a bounty hunter!) It's not like Link (who I would actually prefer not to have long talking lines in future games) where you should make him have a personality, Mario the happy jumping plumber, Fox McCloud with his heroic, confident leadership skills. Master Moron, give me an idea how you would do her personality, because I'm not really sure what else can be done to her except if you want her to work with soldiers a la Halo.

[Master Moron]

As for Samus as a loner, that's perfect. She may be associated with some groups (well how else is she going to make money, she's a bounty hunter!) It's not like Link (who I would actually prefer not to have long talking lines in future games) where you should make him have a personality, Mario the happy jumping plumber, Fox McCloud with his heroic, confident leadership skills. Master Moron, give me an idea how you would do her personality, because I'm not really sure what else can be done to her except if you want her to work with soldiers a la Halo.

Well, I've actually never played Halo, but I remember in Metroid Fusion she talked at length about one of her old commanders. Unfortunately, since Nintendo apparently doesn't want Samus to have any human reaction, they have to have her tell her story to a computer. You know, it would be nice if there was someone from her past who was like...alive...that she could talk to. You know, at the end of Metroid Fusion didn't she say that she'd probably get blamed for the destruction of the research lab? Wouldn't it be cool if she went on trial. I think that would make an awesome storyline, if she had to like break out of a prison or something. And there could be like actual prisoners and guards she could talk to instead of just computers and animals.

Anyway, I guess I haven't really talked much about how I think her character should be developed. Hmmm...well, I remember after playing Metroid 2 and Super Metroid it kind of seemed like that baby Metroid thought of Samus as it's mother, I always wondered if Samus felt the same way. I mean, did Samus feel any type of bond with that strange creature? Of course, it's dead now, so can't do anymore with that story.

One element of Samus' personality that I've always wanted explored is I've always wondered how much of Samus is a hero and how much of her is a bounty hunter. I mean, how much of what she does is fueled by greed and how much of what she does is fueled by heroics? I know the Samus in Captain N comics is probably nothing like the way most people think of her, but I always liked the way she was portrayed as kind of an opportunist in those comics. I mean, at times she was almost ready to sell out the good guys if it meant making money. There always seemed to be a conflict between her own interests and those of others. I'd love to see that explored. Unfortunately, it seems like on most of the games past the second one, she doesn't even seem to really get paid anymore. I mean, she seems to be more of a intergalactic hero than a bounty hunter now.

You know what else would be interesting? If she was paid to hunt a bounty by a bad guy. That would be a really interesting storyline. Would she not take a job from an evil person? I don't know. I'd like to see that explored. But, I don't know, Nintendo's never really been big on storyline, so I doubt I'll ever get to see any plots that remotely interest me in a Metroid game.

[Zyzzybalubah]

Master Moron, you opened a lot of good potential ideas. I see what you mean, more of a story then what they currently got. :)

[RAINMAN]

If it`s help,when super martiod came out nintendo power had a short comic base on it. I have not read it in years but I do remeber some parts of it. Samus was concern when the baby martiod was kidnapped. There was another hunter who wanted to team up whit her and she told him shes works alone. I`ll have to dig it up to see whatelse happend?

[Master Moron]

If it`s help,when super martiod came out nintendo power had a short comic base on it. I have not read it in years but I do remeber some parts of it. Samus was concern when the baby martiod was kidnapped. There was another hunter who wanted to team up whit her and she told him shes works alone. I`ll have to dig it up to see whatelse happend?

I actually remember catching a glimpse of that comic in a store when I was in the middle of playing Super Metroid, and it actually made me look forward to finishing the game. I thought the ending to Super Metroid really would have been really emotional, but...well...honestly, the ending kind of sucked. Planet blows up, credits go by, Samus strips. Not much different than any of the endings to the other metroids. It's kind of strange really, Nintendo characters like Link and Samus are really popular, but in their actual games their characters have little personality, all their personality seems to exist within the context of cartoons and comics. It's like Nintendo creates the design of characters in their games and lets other forms of media fill in their personalities.

[Punisher]

I couldn't care less about Samus' and Link's personality, as long as the games are fun. But the closest we'll ever see to Samus' personality is what she talks about in Metroid Fusion. And Link would be hard to do a personality on, a new one comes up to fight evil whenever evil shows up, and I would doubt they all have the same personality. Just the heroic, silent type.

[Master Moron]

I couldn't care less about Samus' and Link's personality, as long as the games are fun.

I guess we just look for different things in games then. I can't imagine Grand Theft Auto:San Andreas being the same game if CJ had no voice and no personality, same with Solid Snake and Metal Gear Solid. I mean, having main characters without a personality may have worked fine in the 8 bit and 16 bit eras, but I don't think it works now. I want a little bit more from my games now that they have the ability to give me more.

[Mynd Hed]

I guess we just look for different things in games then. I can't imagine Grand Theft Auto:San Andreas being the same game if CJ had no voice and no personality, same with Solid Snake and Metal Gear Solid. I mean, having main characters without a personality may have worked fine in the 8 bit and 16 bit eras, but I don't think it works now. I want a little bit more from my games now that they have the ability to give me more.

Not every game needs personality in its protagonist, though. For that matter, not every game needs a protagonist. Burnout 3, for example, is a big critical and fan favorite this year, and it has no "characters" at all (unless you count Striker the Annoying DJ From Hell before you turn his asinine comments off for good). You'd be doing yourself a big disservice if you avoided the game just because you need to know why the person in the driver's seat is going around causing as much mayhem as possible.

That said, Metroid really IS a good example of a franchise that could use a more fleshed-out protagonist and more fully-explored universe, so I agree with you there.

[Tenku]

Guys, guys.... don't mean to be a mod nazi or something, but this is about DDR, not Samus. Yes, she's pretty much the only female lead that hasn't been sexified/ho-fied, IMO.

Sheesh. :shrug:

...I'm hoping that it would be released stateside. I'll just have to buy a converter. And here's hoping to having a MAX called.... uh... Mario to the MAX! ..? :D