Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories -- Talkback

[maximumzero]

I know the game isn't supposed to be out till Thursday, but I'd figure I'd make the talkback thread right now so it's here when ready.

Also, I made this thread to announce that Best Buy is selling the game for $24.99 this week. Whether this price will extend into next week--I do not know. So if you want to be an early adopter, you can get it cheap.

[TimTwoFace]

Uh, I'm sorry...I must be totally out to lunch, but, what game is this? I wasn't aware of any Kingdom Hearts games coming out prior to KH2 next year.

:eek:

-Tim

[maximumzero]

The story begins where the original Kingdom Hearts ended. Sora reaches a crossroads at night after walking through grassy fields. His mind is filled with memories of friends whom he misses because they never returned home at the end of the journey. Suddenly, a man emerges from the shadows and tells Sora that ahead lies what he is looking for but he also must lose something that is important to him. When the man leaves, Sora finds the crossroads are gone and he is faced with only a single path with a castle at the end. Inside, the castle is empty and Sora finds his memories have been broken apart. Discover what Sora will lose and gain in this sequel that fills in the time between the original game and the upcoming sequel Kingdom Hearts II.

Enter into a roleplaying adventure where you never know who you'll meet. The game features both Square Enix style and familiar Disney characters. Based on a card battle system, you will use a variety of cards for various abilities, spells, combo attacks and tactics. Use special cards to call upon characters from the original game to help Sora in battle. Use objects surrounding you to climb up ladders, open up treasure chests and complete your quest. You'll need to find special cards to open doors between worlds, which can be found inside treasure chests and be won from enemies defeated in battle. Experience the next chapter in this unfolding saga.


It's basically what happens in between the two PS2 games....on the GBA.

http://www.square-enix.com/games/kingdomhearts/
http://www.square-enix.co.jp/games/gba/khcom/

Screenshots to follow...

Also, the game is said to offer some of the best use of FMV on the GBA ever. The FMV intro alone is over a minute and 30 seconds.

[Mog]

BB is selling it for $25? Awesome. I just got a $10 coupon from them Thursday. Rock on.

CoM actually came out of left field for me too. I could have sworn it was coming out next year, than the Disney channel had a teaser for it along with Tron. I go look on the net and find out it comes out the 7th. Damn. This will be the first time in forever that I buy two handheld games so close to each other. (The other one was Final Fantasy I&II)

[maximumzero]

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Obviously these are pics of the Japanese release, but you get the general idea.

[Kuja's Light]

The only thing with CoM, it's been officially stated playing it isn't necassary. Then again, it's a worthwhile game to play though if you're truly into Kingdom Hearts.

[maximumzero]

On the opposite side of that arguement, I've never played Kingdom Hearts, and I won't be playing Kindgom Hearts II. And I never will play either.

[Kuja's Light]

Why is that so? At least KH is one of the original games coming out these days.

[Zach]

On the opposite side of that arguement, I've never played Kingdom Hearts, and I won't be playing Kindgom Hearts II. And I never will play either.
Why not? KH is awsome!

[Killtacular]

CoM just seems like a rehash of the first game. The fact that you have to recollect your "memories".. just seems like a plot device created so that you have to go back through all the KH1 worlds, instead of new worlds. Somehow, to me, this seems more like a port than a sequel, which everyone seems to think. I don't know if I'm gonna buy this.

[Zach]

I'm not getting it because it's a recap. I don't like recaps.

[maximumzero]

Why is that so? At least KH is one of the original games coming out these days.

Because I don't own a Playstation 2...

and...


Why not? KH is awsome!

Because I don't own a Playstation 2...

It's not so much that I don't want to play it--I just can't.

[Zach]

Oh, okay...

[Mog]

CoM just seems like a rehash of the first game. The fact that you have to recollect your "memories".. just seems like a plot device created so that you have to go back through all the KH1 worlds, instead of new worlds. Somehow, to me, this seems more like a port than a sequel, which everyone seems to think. I don't know if I'm gonna buy this.
I'd still buy it since I'm a KH whore. I still think the first KH game is one of the best PS2 games, if not one of the best of all time.

For the game, chances are you'll go to the same worlds and maybe get a few pieces of info here and there. You'll meet few new people and at the end you end up at Hallow Bastion. The game ends with some boss battle and then you're conveniantly at the same spot that was in the first trailer when Mickey shows up. Game Over.

But hey, this way the dev team wouldn't really be lying when they said that CoM would connect KH1 and KH2. We can't blame them for that. It is kind of lame, but as long as it has Halloween Town I'm happy. (Which it does, thus I'm happy and I'll buy it.)

[TacoHunter]

$25? I'm buying it. The MSRP is $40, I can't pass up a deal like that.

[Kuja's Light]

CoM only about him gaining back his lost memories? HAHAHAHAHA!!!! There is a decent bit more then that. It's not as simple as just his memories.

[Conan-san]

CoM only about him gaining back his lost memories? HAHAHAHAHA!!!! There is a decent bit more then that. It's not as simple as just his memories.
Yeah, it probably has more Evangelion Techno-babble that Matt enjoys...:P

[Invader_Spooch]

It doesn't matter, because it is just about the only thing of any interest to me on the GBA (which is collecting dust just like my GameCube).


I would've prefered this on the PSP, but oh well. It's the main reason for me NOT to sell my SP.

And I'm sure this will be fun as heck (just like it's PS2 counterpart) reguardles of not containing an all new story. Being a huge KH fan, I will eat up any new material (ie. new characters, tidbits on the coming storyline etc.).

I can't wait.

[Chosen Raven]

CoM just seems like a rehash of the first game. The fact that you have to recollect your "memories".. just seems like a plot device created so that you have to go back through all the KH1 worlds, instead of new worlds. Somehow, to me, this seems more like a port than a sequel, which everyone seems to think. I don't know if I'm gonna buy this.
Isn't this the one where you can play through a Riku scenario after you beat it? If so, that should add quite a bit of story to it, as well some more character development for Riku himself.

I'm getting a Gamecube Game Boy Player soon(less expensive than a GBA SP), and I'm planning on this being my first game. Sure hope I'm not dissapointed.

[Kuja's Light]

I'll just say there's probably alot more to the plans of the Unknowns then many fans realize.

[Behonkiss]

Seeing how I'd like to get the full KH story (And need to pass the time waiting for KH2), I'm excited for this.

[Peter Paltridge]

CoM just seems like a rehash of the first game. The fact that you have to recollect your "memories".. just seems like a plot device created so that you have to go back through all the KH1 worlds, instead of new worlds. Somehow, to me, this seems more like a port than a sequel, which everyone seems to think. I don't know if I'm gonna buy this.
It's Kingdom Hearts without its flaws. No crummy camera or easy ways to get lost. No stupid Gummi Ship minigames! Sounds like a winner to me.

[Chad Bonin]

I'm buying it, but only as a Christmas gift. I've been burned by Square RPGs... ya know, thinking Final Fantasy X might actually be a good game considering how fun Super Mario RPG was.

At least The Bouncer was decent.

[Invader_Spooch]

At least The Bouncer was decent.
:P

Anyhow, while Square has really sucked in the creative department for the most part as of late, Kingdom Hearts has been their saving grace to me.

It seems Nomura Tetsuya is the only talented guy on their staff nowadays.

The other good people left while the getting was good.

[Kuja's Light]

You know, many people thought it'd suck because it's full of Disney characters. But really, it added alot to the experience, while still ending with lots of dark stuff. Just remember though, KH I was the tip of the iceburg.

[Julayla_Beryl]

I saw the commercial for it, but I won't spoil it. I think I'll get the game when Christmas comes.

[Invader_Spooch]

Well, I just picked it up a moment ago.

Pretty damn entertaining so far.

I was aprehensive about the whole "every action is card based", but they managed to really make it fun, and challenging without being too irritating.

While it does revisit the worlds from KH, it doesn't retell the story really (as far as I can tell so far). It has it's own thing going on, which to a rabid KH fan like me, is really exciting.

More back when I actually get through a good chunk of it.

[Hurricane V1]

I'm loving this game, it's a little repeative, but it's addicitive and fun. The card system works very well I think. Rotating your card deck wheel in the lower left corner with the shoulder buttons really keeps your reflexes in shape; it reminds me of those moments in the original when I'm cycling through the menu, trying to heal myself before I get killed. Organizing your deck also takes a lot of strategy. I'm on the fifth floor myself. I wonder if the upcoming KH TCG will be based somewhat on this game's battle system? Too bad the game is going by pretty quick. Even with rebirth and vs modes, it's going to seem short if you ask me. But it's a must have for KH fans. Now if only the mobile phone version of Kingdom Hearts was available on my phone.

[Kuja's Light]

The one thing about CoM that ticks me off, is the darn Card Break. Trying to heal normally while battling Hades is almost impossible, simply because he'll more then likely just break it. Same thing with attacking as well. *Would love to have a deck full of level 9 Ultima attack cards to battle him.*

[maximumzero]

Picked it up today.

Fun.

Though I'm trying to pace myself.

Now I need to head back to Best Buy tomorrow and get a copy for a friend for Christmas. (And Sonic Advance 3 for that friend's little brudder.)

[Master Moron]

I've never played Kingdom Hearts and to be honest I don't get it. It's like an rpg with Disney characters right? Why would I want to play that? I don't mean to be narrow minded, but I just don't see the appeal.

[Curt]

^Because it's the only game with Disney characters that's actually GOOD.

[Hurricane V1]

I don't mean to be narrow minded, but I just don't see the appeal.
That's why you have to play the game. What makes typical RPG characters so interesting? You have to play to find out, nothing is spelled out for you at first.

[Invader_Spooch]

I've never played Kingdom Hearts and to be honest I don't get it. It's like an rpg with Disney characters right? Why would I want to play that? I don't mean to be narrow minded, but I just don't see the appeal.First off, you haven't played it. And odds are, with that attitude, you won't get it ever.

The thing that appeals to me (other than the awsome graphics, great character designs and fun as hell gameplay) is the dark story going on behind the FF and disney cameos. The conflict between Sora (my favorite main hero in an RPG as of late. I love that lil' guy.) and Riku, the mysteries behind the unknown, the background of Ansem and the Heartless. There is a ton of interesting stuff going on beyond the "OMG FF characters and Disney characteers!". Though most folk can't seem to get beyond that. >_<

[William C. Maune]

Does the Kingdom Hearts series include any pre-FF7 characters?

[UberMonkey]

Does the Kingdom Hearts series include any pre-FF7 characters?
Nope, because it only uses characters from Final Fantasy games where Tetsuya Nomura was the character designer. So, no FF9, either. Nomura is the producer/character designer for the Kingdom Hearts series.

Not that it wouldn't be a hoot to see Amano designs next to Disney characters.

[SuperSonicvs]

I just beat the game after 19 hours and let me tell you it's great. The story is deep, dark, and open yet it still leaves unanswered questions. PLEASE FOR YOU OWN SAKE YOU MUST READ THE SPOILERS BELOW. Some bad people don't make it:evil: Quite a few deaths. Poor stupid bad guys.

Sora kills Larxene and M a r u c h i a.

Axel kills V e x e n and Riku kills L e x u s.

The Unknowns are part of a much larger Organization and some members want to take over the Organization and make Sora their slave to help them through Namine. Axel is a double agent sent to kill the traitors. The Organization's true purpose is to discover the secrets of the heart. On another minor note Vexen is a scientist. There's more and it all ties in with Kingdom Hearts II perfectly because like in Kingdom Hearts II the trailer we see Sora in a cloud like area in Chain of Memories he gets into a pod. And lastly Namine looks really good in 3D. Some things not yet reveal include Sora's connection to Twilight Town, more info of the Organization, how Namine got involved with them, and other interesting stuff.

[Duke Psychology]

i saw that this game is rated E for fantasy violence, but it also had a "mild language" descriptor. that true?

[Chosen Raven]

Nope, because it only uses characters from Final Fantasy games where Tetsuya Nomura was the character designer. So, no FF9, either. Nomura is the producer/character designer for the Kingdom Hearts series.

You know, that's probably the only thing that annoys me about KH(aside from the originals annoying camera). It's hard for me to go "Oh wow! Final Fantasy characters!" when most of them are from FFs I hate(except 8...I liked 8).

I just got KH:CoM yesterday. I won't be playing it till after Christmas, though.


i saw that this game is rated E for fantasy violence, but it also had a "mild language" descriptor. that true?
I'm curious about this too. It's hard for me to imagine profanity in a Disney game.

[maximumzero]

The cards that flash...what do they mean?

Cause I just managed to get a lvl 9 flashing simba card from the moogle shop. :P

[SuperSonicvs]

You know, that's probably the only thing that annoys me about KH(aside from the originals annoying camera). It's hard for me to go "Oh wow! Final Fantasy characters!" when most of them are from FFs I hate(except 8...I liked 8).

I just got KH:CoM yesterday. I won't be playing it till after Christmas, though.


I'm curious about this too. It's hard for me to imagine profanity in a Disney game.I'm at the last part of Riku's story Reverse Birth. Any way there's stuff like damn, hell, etc Nothing serious. Sora does say I don't like the idea of you screwing around with my memories.

[Master Moron]

^Because it's the only game with Disney characters that's actually GOOD.

What about that Mickey Mouse game for SNES? Or Aladdin for Genesis?

[JetMaster5]

KH:CoM is actually a good game for newbies to go into the KH series. While the gameplay got pretty repetitive and way too linear with no exploration (each floor has almost the same damn things to do.), the card system was fun. Fixing your deck, taking advantage of card breaks, customizing your deck so you could launch combos right from the start (I love using firaga right when I card break bosses), it's all fun. From what I saw, the story doesn't pick up until near the end of Sora's scenario, and the FMV's aren't really that interesting (except for the intro.). But it's still fun. And aggravating. I stuck with Riku Round III fight. I knew I should've focused more on increasing HP than CP.

[Andrew T. Hingson]

I've played it a bit and I must say... for a card based game it plays REALLY well. It is pretty much Kingdom Hearts without the camera problems and what not. The "memories" thing is definentilly just a way of making you go back to the previous worlds. That's entirely too blunt in it's execusion, but the game isn't bad because of it. It's neat to see the 3D worlds in pixelated form.

So how long is this game? I'm trying to decide wether to get FFI and II or this for my cousin. He'd like both (said so himself) but I think he might get more enjoyment out of KH (he loved the first game). I know FFI and II could take a while to beat... So how does this compare? Is it at least as long or longer than Mario and Luigi Super Star?

[Kuja's Light]

Well, you definately couldn't go wrong with either. With Dawn of Souls, it has the beginning roots of the Final Fantasy series. Chain of Memories being a sequal to one of the most popular games of all time.

Honestly, I can't really choose well in this case. By the way, the entire storyline of CoM is much more then Sora, Donald, and Goofy getting back their memories.

[Invader_Spooch]

one of the most popular games of all time.
Hardly.

Legend of Zelda
Super Mario Brothers
Halo
Grand Theft Auto
Final Fantasy

Those are some of the most popular games of all time; Kingdom Hearts does have a pretty big fanbase, but there are many games out there that are WAY more popular than it.

I get your point, though. I just don't think it's a fair assesment of it, nor do I think it should be the deciding factor in what to buy. Ah well. >_< Sorry to go off on a rant like that.

[Kuja's Light]

I'm not saying it was one of the deciding factors, it was purely just a point. Besides, I said ONE of. Man, it always seems people think I mean the absolute, when I only say one of.

[Andrew T. Hingson]

Hmm... yeah. It was fairly popular and well recieved but it's not even a blip on the radar overall.

I'd wager to say it's one of the least memorable cross-over titles despite having such big names attached to it.

Anyway... I know both FF and KH are great games with plenty to offer. So what I want to know is... how long is KH? It's probably shorter than FF since that's two games but how does it compare to most single game RPGs on the GBA? My cousin really gets into RPG's so I don't want the game to be too short.

[Kuja's Light]

Um, over 2,000,000 copies were sold at the least. For a 1st game in a series, that's pretty good, and also considering the thoughts on it originally.

[Andrew T. Hingson]

You still trying to prove a point? There a lots of great games out there that aren't incredibly popular. KH is one of these. It's notable but not all that notable. Viewtiful Joe is an excellent game and it's popular enough but it too is just a blip on the radar (if that - and the PS2 game hardly sold at all).

Will someone please just answer my question. How long is the game. That's all I want to know. I know it's great, I know it's fun, and know both are good games. I just want to know how long KH:COM is. The only reason I wouldn't choose it is if it was really short.

[Kuja's Light]

Hmm, well, for the 1st time going through it most players should be able to finish it in aorund 15 hours for Sora's story alone.

[Andrew T. Hingson]

Then I'm guessing there are a few stories. At least two? Rikku's being the other? Is there more than that? (not that there needs to be).

[Kuja's Light]

Yep, there's a Riku story. However, it's said to be FAR easier. For one, it's alot shorter, with the only story parts being the boss battles. He's much stronger and faster then Sora, and he also has his dark form. He has an attack that can get rid of an entire life bar piece too, from even bosses.

Even so, it'd still be worth playing through as well, even though I hear only two bosses should give any real trouble.

[Andrew T. Hingson]

That's all I needed to know. Thank you very much for the info.

[Kuja's Light]

DoAnytime man. Glad to help. I jsut wonder if CoM woill cause more fans. As a fan, I sure hope so, but we'll see.

[Hurricane V1]

I'd wager to say it's one of the least memorable cross-over titles despite having such big names attached to it.
The more memorable crossover games being.....?....Double Dragon Meets Battletoads? The upcoming Shonen Jump AllStars? The only one I can think of is Smash Bros. I'd say Smash Bros and Kingdom Hearts are the biggest crossover games any typical gamer would remember.

[JohnCrichton]

Got it, and for the record, I love it. I didn't know my lil' GBA was capapble of such production values.

Why did Squall's name get changed to Leon tho?

[Behonkiss]

Why did Squall's name get changed to Leon tho?Squall's bio in the first game says he changed his name himself out of guilt that he couldn't do anything to save Hollow Bastion from the Heartless.

I got this game for Christmas, and I'm very surprised with how much fun it is. For someone who hates card games, I think the battle system is very original, fair and engaging. If KH ever appears on a handheld again, I wouldn't mind it being like this.

My only real gripes right now are the lack of voice in the FMVs, and the fact that I can't beat Hades despite reading FAQs and trying at least 6 times. Anyone else have a strategy?

[Kuja's Light]

To above poster:

It would be impossible for vocieovers on a GBA game. The GBA can't handle actual voice-acting. Espicially when so much data is taken up for the 3-D scenes. I know, there are only a few, but this is the GBA we're talking about...

[Behonkiss]

It can. Ever hear of GBA Video?

[Chosen Raven]

Just got it yesterday. I didn't think a card battle game could be this fun. I also really like the story so far(I'm at the 4th Riku fight....I could swear Satan designed this battle). Though new story parts only appear after you finish a world, they're still very interesting(however, the in-world Disney parts are rather lackluster). I'm beggining to wonder if it's actually possible to play KH2 without having played Chain of Memories. Sora meets some characters for the first time that will later appear in KH2, so I'd suggest that anyone who wants the complete story get this game. I'd also recommend it because it's just plain fun.

[Kuja's Light]

The GBA Player is the GBA Player. It probablly adds to the power of the GBA is all. Even so, voice acting isn't necassary, i'm fine without it.

[JetMaster5]

I'm currently at the last level of Riku's scenario. And I made a mistake, Riku's story was longer than I thought. Almost the same length as Sora's scenario. Although that's probably because of the messed up cards that game kept giving in each level. But whatever, at least the story held up well. Definately worth the purchase.

[MrBananagrabber]

I'm enjoying the game a lot. The only problem I have is, in Castle Oblivion, I need a level 2 blue card, and, I don't have one. I've spent so much time just trying to get one of those damn things, and it's not showing up. It's the first time this happened in the game, but god, it's annoying. There's no way to influence what type of card you recieve at the end of battles, is there?

[maximumzero]

To above poster:

It would be impossible for vocieovers on a GBA game. The GBA can't handle actual voice-acting. Espicially when so much data is taken up for the 3-D scenes. I know, there are only a few, but this is the GBA we're talking about...

I believe that the videos on CoH are video-only, simply to save space. The video is played, but there is no sound. The music is produced through the GBA hardware rather than it being a separate audio track on the video.

If you've ever encoded a DIVX video or the like, you'll know how much space omitting video will save you.

Also, saying that voiceovers on a GBA is impossible is like saying voiceovers on a N64 game is impossible.

...and if I remember correctly, the first N64 game to be released, Super Mario 64, did included a few voiceovers.

[Kuja's Light]

I mean actual lines of dialouge. Not little phrases and all. A true voice over would be, a guy saying in full voice, "The war ravaged the world. It came to an end it seemed. However, centuries have passed and the world is growing. However a mighty threat is coming to ravage it again. It's up to a group of those destined to fight, to stop this menace."

Short that was, but it's just a point.

[maximumzero]

Jet Force Gemini had quite a few voiceovers, as did Conker's Bad Fur Day.

[TacoHunter]

The N64 and GBA can do voice. RE2 and Mega Man 64 on the N64 proves this.

And there are GBA games can too. And Kingdom Hearts is using the largest GBA cart there is. So odds are, they just didn't have room for it.

[Artimus Gigan]

Also the voices they did for the original KH were no cheap talents either

mind you it's a handheld game, companies usualy don't go all out expense-wise for handheld games. Console games and PC games they do, but as far as handheld games go, no.

[Metroid_spy]

my cousin got it for christmas. so i've been playing it a lot. still only on the first set of world cards. that boss in halloween town is hard! oogle booglie or something. i didn't have enough cards to card break his cards

[Fresh V]

I've been playing it for some time, I'm now on Oblivion Castle Level 3. I have to tell you, from what I've played, it's very easy. I've never died once, and I've had no trouble beating the bosses so far. Annoying, yes, but very easy. Fun game, too. The only down part is it's very annoying at times, but still a good game.

EDIT: Haha, never mind.:sweat:

[Nick K.]

bump...

I have been playing this non stop... and it is freaking amazing! I love teh whole Kingdom Hearts story and was scared that this was just gonna be KH for GB but it does add a new element to the game and introduces you to characters that KH2 will certainly hold. I think the card system can be annoying but it is still fun. I am currently at Castle Oblivion about to fight Axel...

And, we all know this... just have to say it... RIKU #4 is the hardest boss ever to appear in a video game. :p

Cloud is the best card. I have him #4, #6, #7 & #9 in my deck and love his move. Trinity Limit is also a great move... I'm rambling...

[Andrew T. Hingson]

I've been playing it for some time, I'm now on Oblivion Castle Level 3. I have to tell you, from what I've played, it's very easy. I've never died once, and I've had no trouble beating the bosses so far. Annoying, yes, but very easy. Fun game, too. The only down part is it's very annoying at times, but still a good game.

EDIT: Haha, never mind.:sweat:
Did you fight Hades yet? Dang that took me a few times. All the other bosses have been cake other than him but he gave me a sufficient amount of trouble. I just started Atlantica so we'll see how tough that gets.

[Fresh V]

Did you fight Hades yet? Dang that took me a few times. All the other bosses have been cake other than him but he gave me a sufficient amount of trouble. I just started Atlantica so we'll see how tough that gets.
Ya, I just started fighting him. He's so frikin hard!! Hence the "Haha, never mind:sweat:". I'm assuming Olympius is supposed to be the last episode. Well, ya. It seems like most of the game is easy.

[Andrew T. Hingson]

Nope it's there's another section of areas once you beat the intial stages. So it'd be mid game at the least. I went there second. I really shouldn't have done that but whatever.

[Fresh V]

Nope it's there's another section of areas once you beat the intial stages. So it'd be mid game at the least. I went there second. I really shouldn't have done that but whatever. Ya, I really regret going to Olymius so early. I'm glad there's more after the first set of worlds. I knew it seemed too short. Um....... so........

It seems like most of the game is easy.
Uh, heh he.:sweat: Never mind.

[Artimus Gigan]

The easiest deck set up is a 0 followed by a 9 or 8 followed by another 9 or 8


and then to tack on healing items at the end.

so it's 0,9,9,0,9,9,0 rinse/repeat

it's how I defeated many bosses...


I'm on the final battle

[Fresh V]

Man, I really should start increasing my CP when I get level ups. I needa improve my deck. And I have to stop using card breaks. All my cards go away!!

[Andrew T. Hingson]

The easiest deck set up is a 0 followed by a 9 or 8 followed by another 9 or 8


and then to tack on healing items at the end.

so it's 0,9,9,0,9,9,0 rinse/repeat

it's how I defeated many bosses...


I'm on the final battle
I don't have a 9 or even an 8 (the highest I have is 7) but I do have a few 0's.

[Fresh V]

^ Same here.

[Artimus Gigan]

I don't have a 9 or even an 8 (the highest I have is 7) but I do have a few 0's.then use two highest number cards you have between two zero cards

or kill a buncha enemies and hope you get a moogle shop card so you can buy better cards

there's also the trick to have a moogleshop by a save point, the cards you get at the MS are random, the mroe expensive the pack the higher % of getting better cards. So save and buy at the MS, if you don't get the card you want, reset the system and start from where you saved.

Easy as that...

[Andrew T. Hingson]

Moogle Shop Card?

I've gotten some of those but I don't know how to use them. Enlighten me please.

[Artimus Gigan]

Ok use them to open a door

you can also use them to re-do rooms you've already opened(just hit the open entrence with your keyblade).

there you can buy cards from moogles, first time you visit a shop you get a free pack of cards, there are red orbs called moogle points you collect those to buy cards. You can collect them by jumping on objects(not enemies) in the room. Big orbs are worth more than little ones. You can also try hitting some objects as well.

You can re-enter the room and try jumping on the same objects to see if more red orbs will come out the room replenishes the objects each time you leave, if green ones coem out, those are health points and replenish your health.

I essentialy made a level completely out of Moogle shops, a save point, and stagnent areas, I made alotta money and got alotta good cards that way...

[Andrew T. Hingson]

I've been collecting those red things for ages and I had no idea what the heck they were. Thanks for the info. The game has been easy thus far but its about to get SUPER easy :D thanks to that.

[Artimus Gigan]

Oh and once you unlock the 2nd quest, your card set is pre-determined


though as Riku you have to go down from the top floor

[UberMonkey]

Yeah, I had a lot of fun strategizing with making my decks for boss battles and the fights inbetween, so it was a little dissapointing to find that was all missing from Riku's quest, being more or less reduced to a button mashing hack and slash fest. And you get what, 3 slieghts? Lame. Mickey does make up for it a bit by being the most awesome friend/summon card though. And it was nice to have so many black/enemy cards to use without having to worry about major CP loss.

In the latter half of the main quest as Sora, I always liked to defeat all the heartless in each room... an easy way to level up. Plus, you can go back through each room as many times as you like breaking and jumping on stuff to get lots of HP and Moogle Points. Then, make a Moogle Room, upgrade your deck, make a save room, and go beat the boss.

[Artimus Gigan]

Well Riku's quest is secondary

However you do have to watch your HP considering the Mickey card is the only way to heal

and I'm pretty sure that many people didn't want to trek the route down on the same difficulty..

also the Final boss for Sora's Quest was easy, it only took me two tries...

[UberMonkey]

Marluxia's second form was pretty laughably easy. I'm pretty sure all you need for that battle are a bunch of 0 cards, a good deal of Clouds, plus some Cures and some Mega-Ethers or something like that. Oh, and the Vexen regen card. Memorize the simple patterns and there's nothing to it.

But... the same thing goes for Ansem in Reverse/Rebirth. Anytime he pulls a sleight, use a 0 card. Whack him a lot, and use sleights in Dark Mode. Honestly, I think I might've died once in the whole secondary Quest. And that was when I, like you said, wasn't watching my health. The Mickey cards fall like crazy, just make sure to use them when you got 'em... or just go Dark Mode and kill everything, and break stuff up to recover health. And in the stages without Mickey (because he's fighting Ansem? what? that was pretty vague), just use the Oogie Boogie card, and you shouldn't have any problems.

The game itself is pretty easy. The battle system is sort of a love/hate thing. When you strategize enough, it can be fun, but it can also make things a little too easy, and boring at parts. Luckily you can change the situations you encounter by choosing what kind of rooms you visit. Also, I wasn't really overly impressed with the story - the only things that appealed to me at all where the games' plot about Naminé and the Organization. The revisited Disney worlds all seemed pretty shallow. Riku's story is cool, but suffers a bit by having the Disney worlds literally reduced to nothing but leveling up breaks inbetween story. Really, when it boils down to it, it's good for some fun, and some impressive technical feats on the GBA, but it's mostly just a teaser for KH2. Just my thoughts.

Oh, I also wanted to mention, that the "without the camera problems" statements aren't completely true - Especially in later levels, after using Cloud's Omnislash summon, the game took it's sweet time on recentering on Sora after Cloud dissapears, usually leaving me victim to some cheap shots by the surviving Heartless. Heh.

EDIT: Oh, and anyone else think "Where's NeE?" when DiZ introduced himself?

EDITEDIT: Oh, and I also wanted to point out you don't start out at the top as Riku. It bugs me that people keep saying that, since everything in the game from the direction of the stairs to the World Map says otherwise. You start at Basement 10, and work up to the lobby, I guess. I'm guessing people are going off outdated rumors from the Japanese version, since the numbers go high to low in R/R.

[Artimus Gigan]

here's some interesting speculation:


What if supposedly DiZ is Walt Disney in some form of disguise

I mean his name doesn't seem to fit with the others

Sora, Ansem, Vexen, etc. all seem to be fairly normal(and no weird capitals)

[Kuja's Light]

Diz is someone we all know, but at the same time we don't. I'll give you a clue. "Diz is the body and soul shed from---"

[UberMonkey]

Diz is someone we all know, but at the same time we don't. I'll give you a clue. "Diz is the body and soul shed from---"
I've heard that line of thought, and the game does seem to hint heavily that way. That is, DiZ being the body and soul of Ansem after he shed them off for his heart to join the darkness. But it could be a red herring, or something more like him being the other side of Ansem's heart, from the kind of world Twilight Town is in. But, for all we know, that could be the same thing.

Ansem's name isn't really what I'd call normal... and all the Organization folks having X's in their names is kinda odd too. But, yeah, the capatalization is weird. I doubt he's actually supposed to be Walt Disney, though... breaking the 4th wall like that would be pretty strange. Maybe if Hideo Kojima was working on it, though... :p

[Artimus Gigan]

Well I just beat Riku's quest

I declare this game beaten...

[CyberCartoon]

I almost beated the game in KH COM but the final batle is pretty difficult can you give me some tips to beat te game???9 out of 10 stars!!:) :) :) :)

[Artimus Gigan]

I almost beated the game in KH COM but the final batle is pretty difficult can you give me some tips to beat te game???9 out of 10 stars!!:) :) :) :)Final Battle for whom, Sora or Riku?

[CyberCartoon]

Final Battle for whom, Sora or Riku? CyberCartoon: Sora's quest.

[Artimus Gigan]

CyberCartoon: Sora's quest.Then you're only half-way done with the game

[CyberCartoon]

Then you're only half-way done with the game CyberCartoon: I finished Sora's quest, it wasn't easy and I'm on Riku's Quest.

[Chosen Raven]

CyberCartoon: I finished Sora's quest, it wasn't easy and I'm on Riku's Quest.
Good luck. One of Riku's boss battles is one of the hardest I've ever fought in any game. And his final boss is definitely harder than Sora's.

[Batman91]

Just finished Rikus quest and I must say that the story was great I was really surprised to see what Rikus final desicion was.Also by seeing his final desicion, all that will want to buy KH2 and understand the story fully will want to buy Chain of Memories(CHAIN OF MEMORIES IS NOT A FILLER!:D )

[Simpler Simon]

Have to jump in and ask, I'm generally not an rpg player, but the song in the Kingdom Hearts: CoM commercial is really catchy. Can anyone tell me what its called?

[Kuja's Light]

It's called Simple and Clean. ^^

[SuperSonicvs]

Yep, there's a Riku story. However, it's said to be FAR easier. For one, it's alot shorter, with the only story parts being the boss battles. He's much stronger and faster then Sora, and he also has his dark form. He has an attack that can get rid of an entire life bar piece too, from even bosses.

Even so, it'd still be worth playing through as well, even though I hear only two bosses should give any real trouble.No Sora's much stronger than Riku. People say that because they're crappy gamers. The only person in Kingdom Hearts who ever beat me ever was Kurt Zisa. It took me many tries to beat him. The "one winged angel" went down on my first try in under 4 minutes. I've played Kingdom Hearts for well over 500 hours now and have completely mastered the battle system. There is more to it than just hack and slash. Sad that most people are so stupid. I've never lost to Riku ever nor to Leon or Cloud on my first tries. Only Kurt Zisa.

[Artimus Gigan]

No Sora's much stronger than Riku. People say that because they're crappy gamers. The only person in Kingdom Hearts who ever beat me ever was Kurt Zisa. It took me many tries to beat him. The "one winged angel" went down on my first try in under 4 minutes. I've played Kingdom Hearts for well over 500 hours now and have completely mastered the battle system. There is more to it than just hack and slash. Sad that most people are so stupid. I've never lost to Riku ever nor to Leon or Cloud on my first tries. Only Kurt Zisa.The game only has around 60 hours of actual gametime with beating everything(including Sub bosses)...I mean even if you level to 100 and aquire all the final weapons it shouldn't be overclocking the game time.

Also Kurt Zisa goes down easy if you use the Ultima Weapon...

Also in CoM, Riku's junction attacks are stronger than Sora's however Sora's singular attacks are stronger than Riku's

[CyberCartoon]

Riku's quest was a little difficult but it was mostly easly for me and I completed both quests

[Kuja's Light]

No Sora's much stronger than Riku. People say that because they're crappy gamers. The only person in Kingdom Hearts who ever beat me ever was Kurt Zisa. It took me many tries to beat him. The "one winged angel" went down on my first try in under 4 minutes. I've played Kingdom Hearts for well over 500 hours now and have completely mastered the battle system. There is more to it than just hack and slash. Sad that most people are so stupid. I've never lost to Riku ever nor to Leon or Cloud on my first tries. Only Kurt Zisa.
You can't compare KHI to KH: CoM....Besides that, you never even got to control Riku on KHI, so...

[SuperSonicvs]

You can't compare KHI to KH: CoM....Besides that, you never even got to control Riku on KHI, so...Yea but Sora beat Riku in Kingdom Hearts twice.

[Artimus Gigan]

Yea but Sora beat Riku in Kingdom Hearts twice.Yeah he beat him...with an entirely different Battle System

I mean Sora has to beat Riku, it would be silly to ahve an unbeatable boss that would halt progression in the game