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Larry T
11-21-2001, 10:06 AM
Well, this is kind of a follow-up to the previous thread about the Tom & Jerry animation question, with a new inquiry thrown in. Thanks to all the helpful readers here at TTTP, I have verified that the MGM animator in question whose work I have come to enjoy so much is indeed, IRV SPENCE. I watched several T&Js last night looking for the applicable scenes, and was not disappointed. Thanks everyone!!

Now another question. Previously I stated that there is another animator who worked in Avery's unit for a few years who had outstanding artwork in the early cartoons as well. This style is a really soft-looking, almost gooey animation, and I would like to know if anyone here has any information on who it might be. The bulk of it can be seen in cartoons dated between 1937 - 1939, but I believe there's a bit in a cartoon from 1936 ("Don't Look Now", "The Isle of Pingo Pongo",and "Picador Porky").

After a small amount of research, I noted that the animators listed in Avery's unit from that time include: Virgil Ross, Paul Smith, Sid Sutherland, Irv Spence, Rollin Hamilton, Charles McKimson, and Bob Clampett (however, Clampett had already begun directing previous to 1939, so that kind of rules him out).

The best example scenes of the animation in question can be found in these cartoons:

Little Red Walking Hood (1937) - Red's first Hepburn impersonation; the Wolf pulls on the doorknob and breaks in; Grandma runs into the closet and the wolf follows; the entire ending of the cartoon beginning with the fist fight between Red and the Wolf.

Uncle Tom's Bungalow (1937) - The first scene introducing See-moan Legree; when Eva says "We don't know... so there" and Topsy mimics her.

Daffy Duck And Egghead (1938) - The very opening scene; Daffy and Egghead fighting over the shotgun, right through to the duel scene; Daffy's singing of "The Merry Go Round Broke Down".

Cinderella Meets Fella (1938) - The stepsisters taunt Cindy; the Godmother saying "I guess I got my dates mixed"; the Palace trumpeteers (both scenes); Cindy runs out at the stroke of midnight and comes back to leave the shoe.

Hamateur Night (1939) - The first two introduction scenes of the Emcee; the "to be or not to be" scene.

Any help in identifying this artist would be greatly appreciated. I believe there's some stillshots of animation drawings in a few of the Warner compendium books, but I don't think they're credited.

Thanks!! :cool:

lislebartman
11-21-2001, 11:03 AM
I believe the animation in those scenes you described were done by the legendary Virgil Ross, who would later animate for Bob Clampett and Friz Freleng. His animation is easy to spot - full of personality and life. While it wasn't as frantic as Rod Scribner's work or rubbery like Emery Hawkins, his work is just great to watch.

An excellent example of his work would be in the Friz Freleng-directed cartoon "Two Crows From Tacos", which he animated along with Art Davis. If you watch this cartoon, you'll notice the two different styles...Gerry Chiniquy did a solo cartoon for Friz around this time, the hysterical "Pappy's Puppy". You can tell his distinct animation style - very smooth.

After watching those two cartoons, I've been able to differentiate which animator did which scenes in Friz's cartoons.

Larry T
11-21-2001, 12:16 PM
That's funny, I always thought Virgil's animation was kind of restricted- apparently he did the scene in "BBNTN" where Bugs fights the Sumo wrestler, and the scene in "Rhapsody Rabbit" where Bugs prepares to play the piano. The two styles I'm looking at definitely aren't the same..... :confused:

Thad Komorowski
11-21-2001, 02:36 PM
Well, Larry, the scenes you mention almost make me sure that they were done by either Clampett (before he got his own unit) on an animator that was also on Clampett's unit. The style seems to pop up during a scene in "Rover's Rival", when Porky tells Rover to roll over.


-Thad