C&C - Anything Else/Cards [11/13 - 11/18]

[The Landstander]

VB stripped continues; AS DVDs released this week (which will get their own C&C thread); FMA/GitS:SAC/TGttM/SMC/SL2021; that'sboutit.

vvvv Oh, and pity LFV.

[livingfruitvirus]

and cable is out for the 2nd weekend in a row for me

[Rabi~en~Rose]

not that it matters but isn't Sealab also new? and why no radishes? :confused:

[wrenchien]

just for the record.. i still don't eat radishes.

currently.

maybe not ever.

thank you.

on a lighter note.. this episode with nixon in it of futurama.. is the tops. of futurama episodes, anyway.

[The Landstander]

not that it matters but isn't Sealab also new?Oh yeah, forgot. =(

[wrenchien]

ahh, more of the venture brothers. i really do want to see this in its complete 1st season run.

too bad i don't have that dvd player anymore. maybe this xmas, if i get one, i'll keep it instead of pawning it off for a trip last february.

.... ah whom am i kidding, i'd probably sell that too just so i could see austin for the day if i couldnt' find some practical use for it other than uh,

seeing movies i've never even ... made?

[Rabi~en~Rose]

Oh yeah, forgot. =(

I should have kept my mouth shut :(

[wrenchien]

I should have kept my mouth shut :(

nah.. keeping your mouth shut really isn't much fun.

especially when you're underwater and you just .. have to breathe suddenly.

[ClockStomper]

and cable is out for the 2nd weekend in a row for me
Thank goodness for repeat Thursday. Chin up :)

[Pepperidge]

Can someone please get me a screengrab of tonight's Saturday ratings? I need photographic evidence to show to a certain Canadian station. ;)

[livingfruitvirus]

Can someone please get me a screengrab of tonight's Saturday ratings? I need photographic evidence to show to a certain Canadian station. ;)

What does a Canadian station care? I mean, Witch Hunter Robin was a colossal failure here but YTV says it's doing great.

[Jimmy Kustes]

and cable is out for the 2nd weekend in a row for meI know being poor during new Adult Swim stuff and surfing AOL is teh fun.

[Pepperidge]

Well, SPACE is interested in the show, but they're a little different from YTV. They tried airing anime a few years back, but it completely flopped because they tried too hard to market towards a niche audience (ie: the kind that normally doesn't watch anime on TV). They've been spewing out a lot of BS reasons for not trying to get anime over the past few years, a few of the producers say they want to get SAC on the air. If the execs can see that the show is commercially viable with a mainstream audience, not to mention take notice of all the hype surrounding the franchise recently, there'll be a higher chance of them picking it up.

[livingfruitvirus]

SPACE you say? When you said "the show" I wasn't sure if you meant FMA or GitS. There's a chance only one of the 2 will make it onto the top 3.

[Pepperidge]

I meant SAC, sorry.

[Rabi~en~Rose]

this week brings a special edition of the ratings list because its possible 4/5 new shows may have made the lists


Sunday, November 7th

Family Guy - 611,000
SG Special - 440,000
ATHF - 421,000

worse then the ATHF marathon save for FG

[The Landstander]

Watching AS has made me want sweet, sweet melted chocolate.

[G1Ravage]

Good Things Come To Those Who Wait?

[Rabi~en~Rose]

Sunday, November 7th

Family Guy - 611,000
SG Special - 440,000
ATHF - 421,000



Saturday, November 6th

Futurama - 648,000
Venture - 561,000
FMA - 554,000

yay on VB (which now has a new high) boo on the rest :(

[Killtacular]

I TOLD YOU.

Hi everyone from the "GITS did better than FMA" thread. That message is for you.

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Yay for Fullmetal Alchemist!:D

[livingfruitvirus]

Futurama - 648,000
Venture - 561,000
FMA - 554,000

Wow. FMA did good for a premiere.

And VB got its best ratings ever. GO TEAM VENTURE!

[Anime Freak]

Uhh,where's GITS SAC?

[G1Ravage]

Ghost in the Shell wasn't even on there?

Wow.

[Rabi~en~Rose]

I TOLD YOU.

Hi everyone from the "GITS did better than FMA" thread. That message is for you.

:( it would be ahead if it were on before fullmetal flop :(

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Ghost in the Shell did great with teens, according to the ratings at Media Life Magazine, so:

The boring, pretentious show does good with 12-17.
The fun, quality show does good with 18-34.

[Killtacular]

:( it would be ahead if it were on before fullmetal flop :(
full metal flop? 554k tells me otherwise.

[KnightusMaximus]

So what was up with that "Highest Rated Adult Swim Programs Saturday 10/30/04" thing?

Does "Space Ghost Special" include both parts of Perfect Hair Forever or only the panel afterwords?

[livingfruitvirus]

:( it would be ahead if it were on before fullmetal flop :(

How is 554,000 for a premiere of a bran new series in any way a flop? That's damn good. Better than Wolf's Rain, Bebop, Trigun and any other anime series on Saturday that's not Inuyasha EVER did.

EDIT - I stand corrected. Inuyasha's highest rated performance on AS was 547,000. So now FMA hold's the #3 all time highest anime telecast in Adult Swim history.

#1 - FLCL: "Fire Starter"- 585,000
#2 - Big O: "The Greatest Villain" - 575,000
#3 - FMA: "To Challenge the Sun" - 554,000
#4 - Inuyasha: "Totosai's Rigid Training" - 549,000

[Rabi~en~Rose]

full metal flop? 554k tells me otherwise.

thats just my pet name for the show

[Arcturus]

which is which?

[Killtacular]

thats just my pet name for the show
if you want to name white dogs Blackie and black dogs Whitie, it's your call, but you'd not make a very good owner.

[Fresh V]

I can't believe GitS wasn't even on there. :(

[Pepperidge]

Rabi's just trying to be unpopular.

[Rabi~en~Rose]

if you want to name white dogs Blackie and black dogs Whitie, it's your call, but you'd not make a very good owner.

I dont get that at all :confused:

[William C. Maune]

Wow! That's a solid win for Saturday over Sunday this week and as already mentioned, very impressive numbers for FMA (not to mention VB). Considering all those numbers, it's no real surprise GitS didn't make the top 3. Even assuming it also did well, it is inevitably more likely that the three shows earlier in the line-up will make the top three than the three latter shows. Not that the Top 3 really matters, it's the actual ratings that are important.

[Shnay]

I can't believe GitS wasn't even on there. :(With just a top three list, we really don't know if it did well or not. It's probably a pretty safe asssumption that the GitS ratings were just below the FMA ratings, which would still rate as an excellent premier. When there are four popular shows on, not making it to the top three doesn't mean a show flopped.

[PaQ]

Woo for FMA and Woo for Venture Brothers. Great numbers, i'm glad people are watching those shows. I figured just as much, glad to see that GITS is doing well, but of course that must've meant Wolf's rain did pretty bad.

And on Sunday's.. eh. typical. I was also one of the viewers who wasted their half hour on Perfect hair forever. =[

Rabi, how can you call it a flop? .. 2 episodes does not a series make. It doesn't even start to hit it's feeling for the rest of the series till like episode 5 IMO.

[Anime Freak]

With just a top three list, we really don't know if it did well or not. It's probably a pretty safe asssumption that the GitS ratings were just below the FMA ratings, which would still rate as an excellent premier. When there are four popular shows on, not making it to the top three doesn't mean a show flopped.

Ha, I don't believe thats whats got him confused. He's confused because he thought GITS did better than FMA, because of what a certain news site reported. I just hope that the first eppy was enough to get people hooked to watch this week's eppy and raise numbers even more.

[Rabi~en~Rose]

guess my funny missed the mark this time :sweat: you know expressing my distaste for a show I've never and will never watch.... :p I was just messing around

[Lachesis]

thats just my pet name for the show

You're not even watching it, are you?

[Scythemantis]

The Oblongs have been on AS for years now and I've NEVER seen this episode, which is odd because I've never missed AS on sundays.

[Beat]

FMA lost to a Venture Brothers rerurn and GITS wasn't on the list?

That's a very bad omen for the coming weeks.

[Pepperidge]

Wait, it was a rerun?

Hmmm...

[livingfruitvirus]

^^^^^^^^^^^
Venture Bros? Yeah. It was a rerun. Season one is all done here.


FMA lost to a Venture Brothers rerurn and GITS wasn't on the list?

That's a very bad omen for the coming weeks.

care to explain? because im not following.

vvvvvvvvv FMA wasn't the highest ever. Only 3rd highest. I'm keeping track: http://forums.toonzone.net/showpost.php?p=1509506&postcount=29

[William C. Maune]

FMA lost to a Venture Brothers rerurn and GITS wasn't on the list?

That's a very bad omen for the coming weeks.

FMA lost to VB by a mere few thousand. And even while it may have lost to a VB rerun, FMA still had the highest rating of any anime series on Adult Swim ever. That sounds like the opposite of a bad omen to me. One show on the block doing better than another show on the block doesn't really matter. what matters is the actual ratings each show gets. If FMA had 200,000 and VB had 100,000 it would have beaten VB and doubled its ratings, but the ratings would still be crap. Assuming GitS isn't far behind FMA, the latest Adult Swim Saturday schedule is in extremely good shape and the prospects for anime just got a lot better.

[jbanks97]

That doesn't make any sense at all

2 Shows that the general public have never heard of before perform worse than a show that is finally starting to pick up steam and recognition? It's not FMA did much worse than Venture brothers. It's impossible to make any assumptions based on first week numbers alone anyway. Wait until this week and see how many people liked what they saw and came back.

[Pepperidge]

Ahh. Well, I guess we should also keep in mind that Venture Brothers had garbage to questionable ratings for a good portion of its first run, anyway.

[dawnyoshi]

the day when VB or FMA beats Futurama is the day I will celebrate and go "WOOx1000" in one post. And I will, too. =)

Go Team Saturday!

[comstar]

I'm confused. Are thies the numbers form ep 2 of FMA and GITS? Or the finels of last weeks?

If the latter I thougt GITS beat FMA for ep 1 of each.

I also have to agree how could reruns beet first runs?

[William C. Maune]

These ratings are from the episodes of FMA, etc. that aired on November 6th.

As for reruns, Futurama and Family Guy are the most rerun shows on Adult Swim, yet the ratings for those two shows routinely beat everything else.

[MeggieMay]

How is 554,000 for a premiere of a bran new series in any way a flop? That's damn good. Better than Wolf's Rain, Bebop, Trigun and any other anime series on Saturday that's not Inuyasha EVER did.

EDIT - I stand corrected. Inuyasha's highest rated performance on AS was 547,000. So now FMA hold's the #3 all time highest anime telecast in Adult Swim history.

#1 - FLCL: "Fire Starter"- 585,000
#2 - Big O: "The Greatest Villain" - 575,000
#3 - FMA: "To Challenge the Sun" - 554,000
#4 - Inuyasha: "Totosai's Rigid Training" - 549,000First, FMA pulled in the best numbers on Adult Swim since April of this year :D.

Theses are the Anime shows that broke 500K since April (just did this up for the AS thread on ratings):

Fullmetal 554K (Nov 6th)
InuYasha 547K (Oct 9th)
InuYasha 532K (July 24th)
InuYasha 503K (Aug 21st).

Second, the FLCL and Big O episodes must have been before April 2004. When exactly did those air and do you have or know of a website that has the pre-2004 ratings?

One reason I would like to know when those two shows got those ratings is that cable ratings are hard to compare across years. The reason for this is that as a cable channel households (the number of house holds a cable channel is received in) go up, the ratings numbers go down. So it is likely that FMA actually did better in 2004 numbers than FLCL and Big O did when they got there numbers because the number of households getting Cartoon Network has increased since 2003 (or even 2002).

Anyway, I just read over in the "Ask The FUNI Rep" thread that FUNI will be putting out a press release on the ratings, so I'm looking forward to seeing that :).

[livingfruitvirus]

Second, the FLCL and Big O episodes must have been before April 2004. When exactly did those air and do you have or know of a website that has the pre-2004 ratings?

Both those ratings took place around the end of August 2003.

[Stewie]

Watching AS has made me want sweet, sweet melted chocolate.I'm with you. I could totally make my own heart-shaped chocolate Valentine's Day chocolate-on-a-stick-things. And no one could stop me.

By skimming the past two pages, I think the gist of what you are all saying is that something happened, in a passionate way.

[Nik Jam]

I estimate Ghost in the Shell was watched by 545,000 people. They should have posted the numbers just for fun. Like an honorable mention

[ohmrbill]

guess my funny missed the mark this time :sweat: you know expressing my distaste for a show I've never and will never watch.... :p I was just messing around
If you're going to rag on a show, at least watch it first. I don't even know what it's like, for Pete's sake.

[Duke]

Like everyone else, I'm surprised FMA beat GitS, as I figured name reconigtion would put GitS ahead, at least for a little while. But considering the ratings, it's likely people decided to watch Venture and then stuck around for FMA.

[lostrune]

Sunday, November 7th

Family Guy - 611,000
SG Special - 440,000
ATHF - 421,000
Heh, even people's curiosity afforded to a new series premiere couldn't put Milk-chan into the Top 3? :ack:




Saturday, November 6th

Futurama - 648,000
Venture - 561,000
FMA - 554,000
No Gits:SAC in the Top 3 after all. I told people to treat that early news like an exit poll - it's Florida all over again. :D

"We'll have a press release out later this week. Let's just say that both shows (Fullmetal Alchemist and Ghost in the Shell SAC) did extremely well." (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?p=1509610#post1509610)

[NickWhiz1]

We're ungrateful bastards because we don't like Super Milk Chan :rolleyes:

[Beat]

We're ungrateful bastards because we don't like Super Milk Chan :rolleyes: Tell them next time they want a comedy anime, get one that doesn't suck. (Insert Colorful and Re: Cutie Honey pimping here)

[William C. Maune]

Sorry Williams St, but while I'll still find something to enjoy about most anything you put on, I can't even sit through much Super Milk Chan.

[Duke]

We're ungrateful bastards because we don't like Super Milk Chan :rolleyes:
What did the card say exactly? I wasn't watching AS tonight.

[Rabi~en~Rose]

I'd suggest Nurse Witch Komugi since its only 5.5 episodes and only just 5 if they cut 2.5 which would SO need subtitles anyway but yeah theres nothing to be ungrateful for. why dont they say we are ungrateful for Sealab? some people still like it but theres been a pretty big backlash against it lately :confused:


What did the card say exactly? I wasn't watching AS tonight.

a viewer mail said they liked it then the response card was like 20000+ people hate it - 1 person likes it lol

[Chad Bonin]

The cared said...

"For Super Milk Chan- 1
Against Super Milk Chan- 9999 (A large number)

You Ungrateful Bastards"

[JeffTMBG]

I'm still waiting for an explanation as to why they thought Milk Chan would work in the first place. My theory is they just want to justify not getting comedy anime by claiming that when they do nobody likes it.

[Tienshin]

I'm still waiting for an explanation as to why they thought Milk Chan would work in the first place. My theory is they just want to justify not getting comedy anime by claiming that when they do nobody likes it.

And here I thought we were past the AS conspiracy theories regarding anime...

[Duke]

And here I thought we were past the AS conspiracy theories regarding anime...
Apparently we will NEVER get past that...

[JeffTMBG]

And here I thought we were past the AS conspiracy theories regarding anime...
Fine. My new theory is that the programmers lost a bet.