Droopy, Popeye - 11/19/01

[Jon Cooke]

Droopy:
"Jerky Turkey" - edited
"Homesteader Droopy"
"Tom Turkey and His Harmonica Humdingers"

Popeye:
"The Island Fling" - edited?
"Wigwam Whoopee"
"Pilgrim Popeye"

Three rare Popeye cartoons. I believe "The Island Fling" (which I have never before) was edited. There was no sign of Robinson Crusoe Bluto's Man Friday. Also, the end seemed rather abrupt, it faded to black after Bluto was running from the female ape and saying "You're not gonna make a monkey outta me!".


-Jon

[J Lee]

IIRC, the ending had Friday (Jackson Beck, trying out his Buzzy the Crow voice) with Popeye and Olive at the fade-out, while the cut at the start of the cartoon comes after the first stanza of his song about "Poor Robinson Crusoe" as the camera dissolves to Friday doing housework inside the hut.

I missed the opening titles, but the cartoon looked like it had some Jim Tyer animation in it near the beginning, which, if so, would be the last work he did at Famous before heading north to Terrytoons.

[PorkyandDaffy]

Damn, some more rare cartoons I missed last night. Seems like CN shows a lot of rare cartoons around Thanksgiving time, like last year.

[Inkspot]

In Pilgrim Popeye, wasn't Olive in blackface after Popeye blew her out of his blunderbuss she was stuck in?

[PorkyandDaffy]

Olive wasn't even in Pilgrim Popeye. Do you mean Wigman Whoopee?

[Inkspot]

oh, well which cartoon am i talking about? I believe Popeye was supposed to be John Smith and Olive was Pocahontas

[Joe Tully]

I hope chuckamuck was watching. :) But if not, I'm sure Jerky Turkey will be on again soon.

Thanks to Thanksgiving we saw some rare Indian cartoons! I hope that we'll get some more of the same during the rest of the week.

[Bobby B]

Originally posted by Jon Cooke
Droopy:
"Jerky Turkey" - edited
"Homesteader Droopy"
"Tom Turkey and His Harmonica Humdingers"

Popeye:
"The Island Fling" - edited?
"Wigwam Whoopee"
"Pilgrim Popeye"

Three rare Popeye cartoons. I believe "The Island Fling" (which I have never before) was edited. There was no sign of Robinson Crusoe Bluto's Man Friday. Also, the end seemed rather abrupt, it faded to black after Bluto was running from the female ape and saying "You're not gonna make a monkey outta me!".


The version that TBS aired didn't have any scene of Bluto running from a female ape, so the CN print must not have been edited as much. (The last scene in the TBS version was of Popeye and Olive, with Olive saying "Next time let's go to Coney Island, not this phony island.", which also ended abruptly.)

[Bobby B]

Originally posted by J Lee
I missed the opening titles, but the cartoon looked like it had some Jim Tyer animation in it near the beginning, which, if so, would be the last work he did at Famous before heading north to Terrytoons.


Direction: Bill Tytla

Animation: George Germanetti/Johnny Gentilella

Story: Woody Gelman/Larry Riley

Scenics: Robert Connavale

Music: Winston Sharples

[Bobby B]

Originally posted by Inkspot
oh, well which cartoon am i talking about? I believe Popeye was supposed to be John Smith and Olive was Pocahontas


"Wigwam Whoopee". No blackface gag in the print I taped off TBS (with aap titles!) in the late 1980's.

[J Lee]

Thanks for the titles list Bobby. I didn't think Tyer did any credited animation for Famous after "Rocket to Mars," but there are a couple of scenes early in "The Island Fling" that seem to have his distntive style.

Of course, they could have done the same thing that Warner's always did and pulled his name off the credits after he left fot New Rochelle, or head animator Germanetti my have just been trying to copy his style (can't see Tytla, with his Disney backgound, thinking the same thing though...)

[David Gerstein]

Hey, guys...

THE ISLAND FLING sounds to have been pretty severely edited.
Friday's scenes in the original are so extensive that I can't believe the edited version of the cartoon would make any sense!

We zoom slowly in on the jungle island at the beginning as Friday's off-camera voice sings the opening song:
"Poor old Robinson Crusoe/poor old Robinson Crusoe
Nobody needed/a gal like he did/he wanted to woo so!..."
Then, inside Crusoe's hut, Friday is doing chores:
"...His faithful man Friday (that's me!)/keeps everything tidy!
[another line I've, alas, forgotten]
Poor Robinson Crusoe!"
It is Friday who first alerts Crusoe/Bluto to Popeye's and Olive's approach. He continues to busy himself about the hut, and then acts as Bluto's chaffeur later on, too (turning a knob on his cap that switches his duty from "Stooge" to "Cook" to "Chaffeur", as billed on a little rotating screen on the cap).

The end order of scenes is supposed to go like this:
A) Bluto is chased away by lovesick female ape.
B) Cut back to Popeye and Olive, doing the mentioned Coney Island joke.
C) After that, a cheerfully smiling Friday appears on the scene, to boat home with our heroes. "I'm Saturday," says Friday's hitherto-unseen wife, also appearing. "Sunday... Monday..." sing their two kids, popping into view, "...and always!" they sing together. The end.

Friday is a weird-looking character with exaggerated movement, so maybe Jim Tyer had more to do with him? He's shown as a little fellow with pie-cut pupils in his eyes (such as the other Popeye characters had lost by the mid-1940s). Oddly, Friday has no ears in some shots.

David Gerstein

[lislebartman]

I was pretty disappointed that CN butchered "The Island Fling"; someone over there is scissor-happy!

Other than that, I have some more cartoons for my collection. :cool: