Programming Changes on Toon Disney Effective 11/1

[Tommy Lawson]

Here is the new lineup for Toon Disney's non-Jetix programming as of Monday, November. I know there are going to be some ticked-off people here since several early Disney Afternoon shows are gone, including Duck Tales, Chip 'n Dale Rescue Rangers, Darkwing Duck, and Bonkers. They may not be gone forever, and they may appear in the daily block programming block later on, but a lot of the focus now is on shows made in the past 5 years or so.



New Toon Disney Lineup Effective 11/1
Weekdays
Regular Programming
6:00 am - Hercules
6:30 am - Tarzan
7:00 am - Buzz Lightyear of Star Command
7:30 am - The Proud Family
8:00 am - Recess
8:30 am - House of Mouse

Block Programming
Monday/Tuesday/Wednesday/Thursday/Friday

9:00 am to 11:00 am -
The Weekenders/House of Mouse/Buzz Lightyear of Star Command/Recess/The Proud Family

11:00 am to 1:00 pm -
The Proud Family/Recess/The Weekenders/House of Mouse/Buzz Lightyear of Star Command

1:00 pm to 3:00 pm -
Buzz Lightyear of Star Command/Fillmore!/The Proud Family/Lloyd in Space/The Legend of Tarzan

Regular Programming
3:00 pm - Lloyd in Space
3:30 pm - The Weekenders
4:00 pm - Recess
4:30 pm - Fillmore!

5:00 pm to 7:00 pm -
Toon Disney Movie (Bonus School House Rock on Monday to Thursday)

Late Night Regular Programming
12:00 am - Hercules
12:30 am - The Proud Family
1:00 am - Recess
1:30 am - House of Mouse
2:00 am - Garfield & Friends
2:30 am - Teamo Supremo
3:00 am - Talespin
3:30 am - Goof Troop
4:00 am - The Little Mermaid
4:30 am - The New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh
5:00 am - 101 Dalmatians
5:30 am - Aladdin

Weekends

Regular Programming
Saturday/Sunday

6:00 am - Hercules
6:30 am - Hercules
7:00 am - Sabrina's Secret Life
7:30 am - Sabrina's Secret Life
8:00 am - Timon & Pumbaa
8:30 am - Timon & Pumbaa
9:00 am - House of Mouse
9:30 am - House of Mouse
10:00 am - Buzz Lightyear of Star Command
10:30 am - Buzz Lightyear of Star Command
11:00 am - Toon Disney Movie 1/Teamo Supremo
11:30 am - Toon Disney Movie 1/Teamo Supremo
12:00 pm - Toon Disney Movie 1/Teacher's Pet
12:30 pm - Toon Disney Movie 1/Teacher's Pet
1:00 pm - Toon Disney Movie 2/Lloyd in Space
1:30 pm - Toon Disney Movie 2/Lloyd in Space
2:00 pm - Toon Disney Movie 2/Timon & Pumbaa
2:30 pm - Toon Disney Movie 2/Timon & Pumbaa

Disney Princess Power Hour
3:00 pm - The Little Mermaid
3:30 pm - Aladdin

Regular Programming
4:00 pm - Sabrina's Secret Life
4:30 pm - House of Mouse

Block Programming
5:00 pm to 7:00 pm -
Recess/The Weekenders

Late Night Regular Programming

12:00 am - Hercules
12:30 am - The Proud Family
1:00 am - Recess
1:30 am - House of Mouse
2:00 am - Garfield & Friends
2:30 am - Teamo Supremo
3:00 am - Talespin
3:30 am - Goof Troop
4:00 am - The Little Mermaid
4:30 am - The New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh
5:00 am - 101 Dalmatians
5:30 am - Aladdin

[Roaming Tigress]

Apparently as of November 1st, Toon Disney will cease airing Darkwing Duck.

Weekdays

Regular Programming
6:00 am - Hercules
6:30 am - Tarzan
7:00 am - Buzz Lightyear of Star Command
7:30 am - The Proud Family
8:00 am - Recess
8:30 am - House of Mouse

Block Programming
Monday/Tuesday/Wednesday/Thursday/Friday

9:00 am to 11:00 am -
The Weekenders/House of Mouse/Buzz Lightyear of Star Command/Recess/The Proud Family

11:00 am to 1:00 pm -
The Proud Family/Recess/The Weekenders/House of Mouse/Buzz Lightyear of Star Command

1:00 pm to 3:00 pm -
Buzz Lightyear of Star Command/Fillmore!/The Proud Family/Lloyd in Space/The Legend of Tarzan

Regular Programming
3:00 pm - Lloyd in Space
3:30 pm - The Weekenders
4:00 pm - Recess
4:30 pm - Fillmore!

5:00 pm to 7:00 pm -
Toon Disney Movie (Bonus School House Rock on Monday to Thursday)

Late Night Regular Programming
12:00 am - Hercules
12:30 am - The Proud Family
1:00 am - Recess
1:30 am - House of Mouse
2:00 am - Garfield & Friends
2:30 am - Teamo Supremo
3:00 am - Talespin
3:30 am - Goof Troop
4:00 am - The Little Mermaid
4:30 am - The New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh
5:00 am - 101 Dalmatians
5:30 am - Aladdin

Weekends

Regular Programming
Saturday/Sunday

6:00 am - Hercules
6:30 am - Hercules
7:00 am - Sabrina's Secret Life
7:30 am - Sabrina's Secret Life
8:00 am - Timon & Pumbaa
8:30 am - Timon & Pumbaa
9:00 am - House of Mouse
9:30 am - House of Mouse
10:00 am - Buzz Lightyear of Star Command
10:30 am - Buzz Lightyear of Star Command
11:00 am - Toon Disney Movie 1/Teamo Supremo
11:30 am - Toon Disney Movie 1/Teamo Supremo
12:00 pm - Toon Disney Movie 1/Teacher's Pet
12:30 pm - Toon Disney Movie 1/Teacher's Pet
1:00 pm - Toon Disney Movie 2/Lloyd in Space
1:30 pm - Toon Disney Movie 2/Lloyd in Space
2:00 pm - Toon Disney Movie 2/Timon & Pumbaa
2:30 pm - Toon Disney Movie 2/Timon & Pumbaa

Disney Princess Power Hour
3:00 pm - The Little Mermaid
3:30 pm - Aladdin

Regular Programming
4:00 pm - Sabrina's Secret Life
4:30 pm - House of Mouse

Block Programming
5:00 pm to 7:00 pm -
Recess/The Weekenders

Late Night Regular Programming

12:00 am - Hercules
12:30 am - The Proud Family
1:00 am - Recess
1:30 am - House of Mouse
2:00 am - Garfield & Friends
2:30 am - Teamo Supremo
3:00 am - Talespin
3:30 am - Goof Troop
4:00 am - The Little Mermaid
4:30 am - The New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh
5:00 am - 101 Dalmatians
5:30 am - Aladdin

This is an outrage! They'll show stuff like Garfield, which isn't even Disney, and yet they've banned a classic like DWD from their lineup?

In order to keep the spirit of The Flapping Terror going, we *must* join together and tell Disney about our disapprovement about this, and push for revitalization of the show. We must not let Darkwing die!

[Wolfcruiser]

It's a bunch of utter crap! They just wanna showcase the stuff made in the last 7 years or whatever. Bunch of crap!

That's why we need Darkwing on Disney DVD so us fans wouldn't have this problem. I swear, those people who work on programming need to get their act straight!

[tucsoncoyote]

Apparently as of November 1st, Toon Disney will cease airing Darkwing Duck.

Weekdays

Regular Programming
6:00 am - Hercules
6:30 am - Tarzan
7:00 am - Buzz Lightyear of Star Command
7:30 am - The Proud Family
8:00 am - Recess
8:30 am - House of Mouse

Block Programming
Monday/Tuesday/Wednesday/Thursday/Friday

9:00 am to 11:00 am -
The Weekenders/House of Mouse/Buzz Lightyear of Star Command/Recess/The Proud Family

11:00 am to 1:00 pm -
The Proud Family/Recess/The Weekenders/House of Mouse/Buzz Lightyear of Star Command

1:00 pm to 3:00 pm -
Buzz Lightyear of Star Command/Fillmore!/The Proud Family/Lloyd in Space/The Legend of Tarzan

Regular Programming
3:00 pm - Lloyd in Space
3:30 pm - The Weekenders
4:00 pm - Recess
4:30 pm - Fillmore!

5:00 pm to 7:00 pm -
Toon Disney Movie (Bonus School House Rock on Monday to Thursday)

Late Night Regular Programming
12:00 am - Hercules
12:30 am - The Proud Family
1:00 am - Recess
1:30 am - House of Mouse
2:00 am - Garfield & Friends
2:30 am - Teamo Supremo
3:00 am - Talespin
3:30 am - Goof Troop
4:00 am - The Little Mermaid
4:30 am - The New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh
5:00 am - 101 Dalmatians
5:30 am - Aladdin

Weekends

Regular Programming
Saturday/Sunday

6:00 am - Hercules
6:30 am - Hercules
7:00 am - Sabrina's Secret Life
7:30 am - Sabrina's Secret Life
8:00 am - Timon & Pumbaa
8:30 am - Timon & Pumbaa
9:00 am - House of Mouse
9:30 am - House of Mouse
10:00 am - Buzz Lightyear of Star Command
10:30 am - Buzz Lightyear of Star Command
11:00 am - Toon Disney Movie 1/Teamo Supremo
11:30 am - Toon Disney Movie 1/Teamo Supremo
12:00 pm - Toon Disney Movie 1/Teacher's Pet
12:30 pm - Toon Disney Movie 1/Teacher's Pet
1:00 pm - Toon Disney Movie 2/Lloyd in Space
1:30 pm - Toon Disney Movie 2/Lloyd in Space
2:00 pm - Toon Disney Movie 2/Timon & Pumbaa
2:30 pm - Toon Disney Movie 2/Timon & Pumbaa

Disney Princess Power Hour
3:00 pm - The Little Mermaid
3:30 pm - Aladdin

Regular Programming
4:00 pm - Sabrina's Secret Life
4:30 pm - House of Mouse

Block Programming
5:00 pm to 7:00 pm -
Recess/The Weekenders

Late Night Regular Programming

12:00 am - Hercules
12:30 am - The Proud Family
1:00 am - Recess
1:30 am - House of Mouse
2:00 am - Garfield & Friends
2:30 am - Teamo Supremo
3:00 am - Talespin
3:30 am - Goof Troop
4:00 am - The Little Mermaid
4:30 am - The New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh
5:00 am - 101 Dalmatians
5:30 am - Aladdin

This is an outrage! They'll show stuff like Garfield, which isn't even Disney, and yet they've banned a classic like DWD from their lineup?

In order to keep the spirit of The Flapping Terror going, we *must* join together and tell Disney about our disapprovement about this, and push for revitalization of the show. We must not let Darkwing die!I agree with you and empathize with you here, Roaming Tigress, and that is why I agree.. Darkwing Duck as well as the rest is part of the Disney Legacy.. and in fact that's why I added something to my sig..(It's there just scroll down..) you're more then welcome to join our cause. after all we do have to bring back the magic don't you think?

:coyote:

[BigKPFan76]

I can understand everyones pain, and frustration. Im feeling it too. I suppose KP and Lilo & Stich are heading that way too.

BTW, not all new shows are crap. Quite a few are, but KP and L&S are the exception.

[Tobias]

With Jetix expanding, and the eventual arrival of not only KP and L&S, but also Dave the Barbarian and Brandy & Mr. Whiskers, and possibly Braceface, no DA show will probably be around within two to three years. It's sad, but it's going to happen.

[loyalheart]

i guess their trying to convert toondisney into jetix? nothing wrong with that EXCEPT, alot of the DA shows do fit the jetix thing...

but, i've never been a toondisney viewer (except some jetix) since they took off "Gummi Bears". and that's been awhile. While ALL 'DA' shows are important i considered GB a bigger loss, since it was one of the first two animated series for Disney.

[DTaina]

I thought Toon Disney was about airing Disney cartoon shows, but they take off Darkwing Duck and Bonkers, keep non-Disney stuff like Garfield, and air shows that aren't even animated, like Power Rangers! I didn't see Gargoyles there either. Grr, that's the last straw! Disney is going downhill and taking our shows with them! It's time we did something about this! But what? I'm open to suggestions!

[William C. Maune]

I thought Toon Disney was about airing Disney cartoon shows, but they take off Darkwing Duck and Bonkers, keep non-Disney stuff like Garfield, and air shows that aren't even animated, like Power Rangers! I didn't see Gargoyles there either. Grr, that's the last straw! Disney is going downhill and taking our shows with them! It's time we did something about this! But what? I'm open to suggestions!

Gargoyles is still on, it is mentioned in the Jetix on Toon Disney thread on the forum. It is now part of the weeknight Jetix block.

[Tommy Lawson]

Yeah, I agree I don't like that I won't be able to see DWD again soon, but I think the removal of the old D.A. shows may be a small sign Disney has plans to release the series on DVD. After all, 2006 is the 15th Anniversary of Darkwing Duck, and 2007 is the 20th Anniversary of Duck Tales, the first daily D.A. show I can remember. And really, I don't think Toon Disney will be able to expand to 60 million households by regurgitating the same programming they've aired over the past 6 years endlessly for years on end. They need new shows, which the Jetix block helps accomplish.

[tucsoncoyote]

Yeah, I agree I don't like that I won't be able to see DWD again soon, but I think the removal of the old D.A. shows may be a small sign Disney has plans to release the series on DVD. After all, 2006 is the 15th Anniversary of Darkwing Duck, and 2007 is the 20th Anniversary of Duck Tales, the first daily D.A. show I can remember. And really, I don't think Toon Disney will be able to expand to 60 million households by regurgitating the same programming they've aired over the past 6 years endlessly for years on end. They need new shows, which the Jetix block helps accomplish.That's true Tommy, but don't you think it's high time Disney does something ... different?

Have they thought about trying "Revitalization?"

now a lot of you are probably scratching your heads on this one.. but it's Child's play really...

Take Older shows.. write up new stories and ideas and then of course put them into the current mix of shows that are out there..

that's a big what if but my question to the Walt Disney Company would be this... Why haven't you done it?

That's a major step that they haven't tried.. after all this proves the point that old Gargoyles Saying by puck...

Any rule that can't be broken surely can be bent...

Your thoughts on this folks?

:coyote:

[Peter Paltridge]

I believe this will be the first time DuckTales is not airing anywhere in the entire USA since its original 1987 debut.

It's a sad day in Mudville---er, Duckburg.

The constant preaching Disney feeds people that they produce "fun for the whole family" is a total lie of a farce of a ****. They don't care about anyone above the age of 13. And anyone who actually swallows their propaganda lies should be thrown off a cliff if they haven't already walked over one by accident.

[DTaina]

Gargoyles is still on, it is mentioned in the Jetix on Toon Disney thread on the forum. It is now part of the weeknight Jetix block.Thank you for clearing that up for me; I feel much better! Gargoyles is part of the Jetix slot? That's great! But still, losing Darkwing Duck, Bonkers, and Duck Tales? That's just... wrong, isn't it?

Tucsoncoyote: I agree with you completely. The same thing is going to keep happening if the 65-episode rule isn't abolished. New shows get cancelled at sixty-five, and lacking new episodes, will eventually drop out of the lineup, and then new shows will take their place, only to start the cycle anew. Revitalizing all these older shows, and abolishing that rule, will ensure that shows stay fresh and keep the fans happy and, more importantly to Disney, buying merchandise. So, why don't they do it?! I just can't understand it! It's a good deal all around!

[tucsoncoyote]

I believe this will be the first time DuckTales is not airing anywhere in the entire USA since its original 1987 debut.

It's a sad day in Mudville---er, Duckburg.

The constant preaching Disney feeds people that they produce "fun for the whole family" is a total lie of a farce of a ****. They don't care about anyone above the age of 13. And anyone who actually swallows their propaganda lies should be thrown off a cliff if they haven't already walked over one by accident.again another logical statement there Martianinvader, and in fact that's why some of us are doing what we are doing.. to try and "Rewrite History" as it were.. after all there are some of us out here, who are actually thinking "Outside the box" and considering of trying to put someone who is empathetic towards the Fans of Disney Tradition into power.. Mind you, it could be a step in the right direction, but yes you are correct.. what Disney puts out is a blatant lie and unless we start to speak up about this, well then you'll not see any changes anytime soon. after all Disney should look both backwards and forwards and become creative once again.. but until the fans and everyone else who is supportive of bringing back the magic, it's not going to happen.. not unless we come together and work toward restoring the magic..

that's really all I need to say..

:coyote:

[tucsoncoyote]

Thank you for clearing that up for me; I feel much better! Gargoyles is part of the Jetix slot? You know, that's not too bad. But still, losing Darkwing Duck, Bonkers, and Duck Tales? That's just... wrong, isn't it?

Tucsoncoyote: I agree with you completely. The same thing is going to keep happening if the 65-episode rule isn't abolished. New shows get cancelled at sixty-five, and lacking new episodes, will eventually drop out of the lineup, and then new shows will take their place, only to start the cycle anew. Revitalizing all these older shows, and abolishing that rule, will ensure that shows stay fresh and keep the fans happy and, more importantly to Disney, buying merchandise. So, why don't they do it?! I just can't understand it! It's a good deal all around!You know DTaina, the 65 episode rule was put into place initially as not a limiting factor.. in fact a lot of folks think it was to keep a show fresh..

The actual reason why it was put into place was for a Cost Cutting measure to prevent expenditures when times were "thin" and DIsney wasn't in the best of health... but when the company is doing good, the episode policy should have been relaxed.. and since last year Disney did good at the box office some of the shows that are being terminated or shortened shouldn't be going through this process...

in short DTaina, the reason is that someone at the company is abusing this rule too much and is saying every show from now on should go that far.. That's not a problem, but it is really a wrong idea to accept.. because it limits growth.. and Disney should be about growing and evolving not remaining staagnant indefinitely.. after all your logic is just as sound as mine.. and in fact all this has done is ired a number of fans.. and has actually shot Disney in the foot..

that's why I suggest that we need to act here.. for the sake of the company.. if not now, then we may never get a chance to .. after all shouldn't our kids be able to enjoy either new shows or a boxed set of Darkwing duck or Ducktales?

I think they deserve that right..

:coyote:

[Red]

Duck Tales is gone!?!

NOOOOO :crying:

[Czar Gato]

Here is the new lineup for Toon Disney's non-Jetix programming as of Monday, November. I know there are going to be some ticked-off people here since several early Disney Afternoon shows are gone, including Duck Tales, Chip 'n Dale Rescue Rangers, Darkwing Duck, and Bonkers. They may not be gone forever, and they may appear in the daily block programming block later on, but a lot of the focus now is on shows made in the past 5 years or so.Wow, all those shows were pretty much the only Toon Disney progams I was interested in.

[SilverKnight]

The actual reason why it was put into place was for a Cost Cutting measure to prevent expenditures when times were "thin" and DIsney wasn't in the best of health... but when the company is doing good, the episode policy should have been relaxed.. and since last year Disney did good at the box office some of the shows that are being terminated or shortened shouldn't be going through this process...Whoa, hold on for a sec. I don't listen too closely to business and marketing reports, but from what I've been hearing, Disney (aside from PotC, and Finding Nemo) has been hit very, very hard this past year or two, due to lousy box-office returns. Of course, I'm not outright disagreeing with you, but Disney is hardly in the best of health at the moment. At least, that's how it seems...>shrugs<

>sigh< Darkwing Duck and DuckTales deserve so much better than they're getting. Just when I was able to watch DW again, they gotta pull this crap on me. (I realize it's probably been played nearly to death in its respective timeslots, but still, it sucks.) It's times like this I wish there were DVDs or the shows were in syndication, but alas, no channel is going to air a 10-15 year old cartoon show about anthromorphic ducks fighting crime, not in this day and age. Bah.

[tucsoncoyote]

Whoa, hold on for a sec. I don't listen too closely to business and marketing reports, but from what I've been hearing, Disney (aside from PotC, and Finding Nemo) has been hit very, very hard this past year or two, due to lousy box-office returns. Of course, I'm not outright disagreeing with you, but Disney is hardly in the best of health at the moment. At least, that's how it seems...>shrugs<

>sigh< Darkwing Duck and DuckTales deserve so much better than they're getting. Just when I was able to watch DW again, they gotta pull this crap on me. (I realize it's probably been played nearly to death in its respective timeslots, but still, it sucks.) It's times like this I wish there were DVDs or the shows were in syndication, but alas, no channel is going to air a 10-15 year old cartoon show about anthromorphic ducks fighting crime, not in this day and age. Bah.as Kim Possible said to Monique in A sitch in time.. Welcome to my world..

See actually if you look at this Silverknight has Disney really had a Decent Year since 1994? The answer is a Solid no.. also has Disney had even a break even year since 1997 again no... and this last Fiscal year is no exception but when you think about it the previous year was more profitable then 2004.

Like I predicted 2 out of 15 (some of them rather Expensive) movies produced in 2004.turned over a profit. and both were not even by Disney

but I still think by "Shelving" Disney Afternoon shows isn't the answer here.. in fact it's counterproductive to the business they should be drumming up..after all Like I state bluntly here.. Disney should embrace a bit of the past and look to the future.. but it's a case where they have to do so with Wisdom and Guidance, not by Callously throwing money to the wind and hiping for a "Hit" after all think about this at one time Disney Afternoon had one new release every year.. now according to the statements. there will be 15 in just 4 years..

and this is why we need to get back to the basics, and use the "Tortise Approach rather then the hare.. after all Quality shouldn't be given up in exchange for Cost Cutting Measures here.. if you give up quality, well then that Darkwing Duck slowly de-volves into.. dare i say it? Brandy and Mr. Whiskers?

I think I've said enough on this issue..

:coyote:

[Wolfcruiser]

tuscon is exactly right about last year being a good year for Disney box-office wise. Of course, we all Nemo was on top,but that was Pixar so I don't really count them LOL:D , but Disney itself also had Pirates of the Carribean, Freaky Friday and Brother Bear that generated great box offices. :) And there was other stuff like Holes, The Haunted Mansion and to a very lesser extent, the Lizzie McGuire movie, which added to the box office dinero of the 3 other movies I mentioned.

Geez, I've heard enough of 1994 being the end to Disney's swan song. Ugh! I mean, how many times have I heard that on this forum? Lion King didn't mark the end of the world!! What about the awesomeness that was features like Pocahontas ( too mushy but still), Hunchback, Mulan, Tarzan(well, I liked the visuals)..........hearing that comment over and over gets my blood boiling. Or is everyone too interesting in how much a movie makes at the box office to actually care?

Okay, now I'm getting off topic...so....

Well, shows like DWD, Talespin and Ducktales were the reason too watch Toon Disney. Not like I get the channel, but meh.

[Hordesman]

About 2 weeks ago, Variety had an article on tv show DVDs that made an interesting point. Apparently including feature, special packaging, and/or advertising raises the price point. So a message has to be sent to Disney that the older shows are worth it. Maybe Gargoyles is your least favorite Disney Afternoon show. Still, it's the first to get released because of fan conventions and such. Buy it when it comes out. I'm not so sure phasing out shows = DVD release in the works. Disney may be shooting for shows that all look new. During the Disney Afternoon heyday, Gummi Bears wouldn't look that off next to Gargoyles visually. But the digital coloring standard has a distinctive look. I had Talespin on a couple days ago and it really struck me how cel-coloring stands out. (My mom thought I was nuts :anime: )I just think it's a factor in all of this, appealing to the teenyboppers or tweens or whatnot. Show them DVDs are a viable market. Hell, I'd like to see some of the old DA toy molds from Playmates and Kenner be reused.

[tucsoncoyote]

tuscon is exactly right about last year being a good year for Disney box-office wise. Of course, we all Nemo was on top,but that was Pixar so I don't really count them LOL:D , but Disney itself also had Pirates of the Carribean, Freaky Friday and Brother Bear that generated great box offices. :) And there was other stuff like Holes, The Haunted Mansion and to a very lesser extent, the Lizzie McGuire movie, which added to the box office dinero of the 3 other movies I mentioned.

Geez, I've heard enough of 1994 being the end to Disney's swan song. Ugh! I mean, how many times have I heard that on this forum? Lion King didn't mark the end of the world!! What about the awesomeness that was features like Pocahontas ( too mushy but still), Hunchback, Mulan, Tarzan(well, I liked the visuals)..........hearing that comment over and over gets my blood boiling. Or is everyone too interesting in how much a movie makes at the box office to actually care?

Okay, now I'm getting off topic...so....

Well, shows like DWD, Talespin and Ducktales were the reason too watch Toon Disney. Not like I get the channel, but meh.Well Wolf that's why Like I said, there are idealists and then there are idealists.. and believe me I wish we could get these shows out of the vaults and either get them onto DVD in Boxed Sets or get them "Revitalized.." after all this is something Disney Needs to do if they plan to keep their customer relations going..(*mumbles* of course If I were in charage.. they would ahve been out 2 years ago!) and that's why I say.. hey get someone with some ideas into Disney.. after all we need someone who will work with the people who are important the most.. namely the fans and consumers of Disney..

That's really All I need to say..

:coyote:

[loyalheart]

Yeah, I agree I don't like that I won't be able to see DWD again soon, but I think the removal of the old D.A. shows may be a small sign Disney has plans to release the series on DVD. After all, 2006 is the 15th Anniversary of Darkwing Duck, and 2007 is the 20th Anniversary of Duck Tales, the first daily D.A. show I can remember. And really, I don't think Toon Disney will be able to expand to 60 million households by regurgitating the same programming they've aired over the past 6 years endlessly for years on end. They need new shows, which the Jetix block helps accomplish
Meanwhile 2005 is the 20th Anniversary of both Gummi Bears and Wuzzles, :sad:

[Starlioness]

doesn't Rescue Rangers turn fifteen also ? :sad:

if they got rid of the movie-series ( Tale Spin/Aladdin/ Hercules etc.) they will die!! *gets an ax* :mad: though a few have terrible time-slots as it is.. who's going to watch 101 Dalmatians at 2:00aa.m! :eek: :shrug: I think the others o.k though *double checks listing*

[tucsoncoyote]

doesn't Rescue Rangers turn fifteen also ? :sad:

if they got rid of the movie-series ( Tale Spin/Aladdin/ Hercules etc.) they will die!! *gets an ax* :mad: though a few have terrible time-slots as it is.. who's going to watch 101 Dalmatians at 2:00aa.m! :eek: :shrug: I think the others o.k though *double checks listing*Actually Starlioness, Chip and Dales Rescue Rangers rand between 1989 -1990 so they are 15 right now.. and they too like other disney shows got only a limited 65 episode run.. and you can imagine.. they don't have a DVD or anything else either..

which then brings up a valid point here... why remove the older shows? Isn't Disney at this point defeating it's own Mission Objective here, which is to promote such things for future generations? that's a major travesty in my book I think, and I also think that some of these shows should be returned... after all, all The Walt Disney Company is doing here at this point is hurting it's viewing fan base rather then trying to make it bigger, the converse is true.. it's making it smaller.. and that's all the more reason why Disney Fans of even the older DA Shows need to speak up at this point, or risk losing some of these older shows.. (after all if This is the Case, they're probably in the Disney Vaults right now, gathering dust bunnies as we speak..)

that's really All I need to say on this..

:coyote:

[Tobias]

Since Disney is hellbent on churning out DTV sequels that are really un neccseary, why not use the DTV market for the DA shows?

Ducktales, Chip & Dale, Gummi Bears, Talespin, Darkwing Duck, Gargoyles, etc. Make DTV movies for all of them, and gauge the response to bring maybe two or three of these shows back for at the very least, a 13 episode run or another DTV sequel.

I'd rather buy a sequel to Ducktales or the continuing adventures of Chip & Dale's Rescue Rangers than a sequel to the Jungle Book any day of the week.

[tucsoncoyote]

Since Disney is hellbent on churning out DTV sequels that are really un neccseary, why not use the DTV market for the DA shows?

Ducktales, Chip & Dale, Gummi Bears, Talespin, Darkwing Duck, Gargoyles, etc. Make DTV movies for all of them, and gauge the response to bring maybe two or three of these shows back for at the very least, a 13 episode run or another DTV sequel.

I'd rather buy a sequel to Ducktales or the continuing adventures of Chip & Dale's Rescue Rangers than a sequel to the Jungle Book any day of the week.Or better yet Tobias, why doesn't Disney take some of the time out of Playhouse Disney and reduce the number of hours we are forced to view this on Disney Channel and in it's place put some of the older shows on there? After all I think for those wee folks who've never seen these shows, it would be a delight to them..

but I do also agree with your thinking even a sequel to these series is better then nothing at all

:coyote:

[Andrew T. Hingson]

And with this... what little of my child hood remained on television is gone. First it was Nickelodeon, then it was CN, and now Toon Disney. They've all abandoned the late 80's and 90's generation of cartoons. Only a few shows live on and most of those only air their more recent episodes.

I officially have very little or no reason at all to have Toon Disney.

[tucsoncoyote]

And with this... what little of my child hood remained on television is gone. First it was Nickelodeon, then it was CN, and now Toon Disney. They've all abandoned the late 80's and 90's generation of cartoons. Only a few shows live on and most of those only air their more recent episodes.

I officially have very little or no reason at all to have Toon Disney.well that could change Hyper sensei if the fans speak up on this issue.. if they don't well then you certainly can't blame the Walt Disney Company for this issue.. you'll have to blame someone though... but whom?

see that's just my point here. Disney has now just killed what I call "A Main reason as to why they are promoting Toon Disney.. after all isn't Toon Disney supposed to be "a Repository of sorts" for the Older cartoon Fan base?" or have the policies within come up to such a point that the fans don't care any more..

if that's the case might I suggest Getting rid of Toon Disney thn.. but if you want to be like the rest of us.. then just like that famous line about "if you believe in fairies clap your hands" then I suggest you write Disney and complain .. after all a this could be the year that the fans have a say in this matter, after all if Disney is going to cut out "Classic Animation" then all they are doing is defeating their own policies..

need I say more? I think not..

:coyote:

[Wolfcruiser]

And with this... what little of my child hood remained on television is gone. First it was Nickelodeon, then it was CN, and now Toon Disney. They've all abandoned the late 80's and 90's generation of cartoons. Only a few shows live on and most of those only air their more recent episodes.

I officially have very little or no reason at all to have Toon Disney.
I've never had TD, so I don't have that problem.

Ugh dude! I feel the SAME way you do. How can all these channels kill off all our favorite toonage we grew up with. What a *****........><

[Vixen]

Actually, I've been bummed since ToonDisney took off Schnookums & Meat a few years ago. And they're not airing DuckTales anymore?! What's w/that?! Disney is going downhill very fast. But then again, virtually everything that's pretty good is going the way of the dinosaur.

[bat313]

Actually, I've been bummed since ToonDisney took off Schnookums & Meat a few years ago. And they're not airing DuckTales anymore?! What's w/that?! Disney is going downhill very fast. But then again, virtually everything that's pretty good is going the way of the dinosaur.

I'm with you on that 100% Ducktales was amazing, only a company as stupid as Disney would take it off the aire. Its F******* rediculous, is all i can say. Oh joy, we can watch more Power Rangers Dino Thunder Ultra SUper Kewl Happy Hour ****, i can't wait :rolleyes: :sad: It's not even animated!!!!!!

Side not...has anyone else noticed that since we are not allowed to bad talk Disney Management anymore (expect in that one tread) that the Disney board has gotten alot quieter :mad:

[InknPaintShoujo]

This really disappoints me. I'm moving soon and I wanted to get ToonDisney for the sole reason of getting to watch Duck Tales, Darkwing, Bonkers, etc. Not all the shows on the new schedule are REALLY bad, but come on, no DUCK TALES???!!! Is there anyone who doesn't like that show???!!
The Disney Afternoon 4eva!!!

[BrendaBat]

Aw damn. Yesterday I noticed that Pepper Ann is no longer on ToonDoisney and now this has to happen. :(
I taped a lot of my favorite Pepper Ann and Rescue Rangers episodes; but I never got around to taping my favorite Ducktales and Darkwing episodes. Now I may never get the chance! Stupid Disney!! :mad:
Hopefully, I'll get a chance to tape my favorite Talespin eps before that goes, too.

Proud Family, Dave the Barbarian, Kim Possible, and Brandy and Mr Wiskers shouldn't be taking up space on ToonDisney when they still get plenty of airtime on the regular Disney Channel! :mad:


Since Disney is hellbent on churning out DTV sequels that are really un neccseary, why not use the DTV market for the DA shows?

Ducktales, Chip & Dale, Gummi Bears, Talespin, Darkwing Duck, Gargoyles, etc. Make DTV movies for all of them, and gauge the response to bring maybe two or three of these shows back for at the very least, a 13 episode run or another DTV sequel.

I'd rather buy a sequel to Ducktales or the continuing adventures of Chip & Dale's Rescue Rangers than a sequel to the Jungle Book any day of the weekWHOA! Think about what you're saying! Do you really want the people who made The Little Mermaid 2 to mess with classics from the Disney Afternoon!?
I personally hope that Disney NEVER makes new DTVs for their Disney Afternoon shows. They would just ruin them with "trendy" makeovers and replace the old themes with Raven songs :rolleyes:


Side not...has anyone else noticed that since we are not allowed to bad talk Disney Management anymore (expect in that one tread) that the Disney board has gotten alot quieter huh? We could talk to Disney management!? What "one thread"? :confused:
And speaking of contacting Disney, does anyone know Disney's snail-mail address? Me and some of my friends want to write letters to Disney to encourage them to make DVD sets of the DA shows.

[Philo & Gunge]

God, now all this is "Recess" and "The Proud Family" re-runs. OVER & OVER & OVER again. I'm bummed about losing DA classics, too. No more T&P on weekdays either, sad for me at least. :crying: :( :sad:

[magicjac]

Oh No. Not only is "Darkwing Duck" off the schedule, there's no more "Bonkers", "Quack Pack", "Ducktales", "Chip & Dale Rescue Rangers" or "Pepper Ann". I can't believe Toon Disney is being so stupid. I was going to start taping all of these shows episode by episode after I was done taping "Talespin" and "The new Adventures Of Winie The Pooh", but now I can't:sweat: Oh Well. Atleast I've already started taping TS and TNAOWTP, and I also ordered all 3 out-of-print "Bonkers" VHS tapes from www.inetvideo.com (http://www.inetvideo.com) Also, I rented 7 out-of-print "Ducktales" tapes and 2 out-of-print "Chip & Dale Rescue Rangers" from a local rental store that has old tapes from the 80's and early 90's. This Is An Absolute Tradjesty. Toon Disney are out of their damn minds. I say a petition is in order. Too bad I have no idea how to start one.

[SuperStantzio]

Well this is just terrible! That more of reruns Recess and the Proud Family again! I used to like those shows now they are getting old really fast with all the repeats! Disney was really being morons for pulling DA shows of the air. Now I won't be watching toon disney anymore except for Garfield and Friends. :mad::mad: :mad:

[Classic Speedy]

Kinda wish I had taped more Darkwing Duck and Bonkers episodes before they took them off completely. As it stands right now, the only episodes I have on tape are:
Darkwing Duck: -Whiffle While You Work
-Up, Up, and Awry (4th act only)

Bonkers: -In the Bag
-Is Toon Fur Really Warm?
-Once in a Blue Toon
-The Good, The Bad, and The Kanifky
-Stay Tooned (4th act only)

And since it's off the air now, this is probably how small my list will be for a good long while. :sad:

[PaQ]

Wow.. I had no idea these shows were/are being taken off Toon Disney, it's really disappointing to here that. =[

Hopefully they get a chance to come out DVD, although hearing of the anniversary years of some of the shows makes me feel old. lol. :p

[Wolfcruiser]

Bonkers! Aw, man....I miss that show too. I forgot all the quirky humor that it had........:cool:

[tucsoncoyote]

Bonkers! Aw, man....I miss that show too. I forgot all the quirky humor that it had........:cool:Agreed there wolf, after all this really tanks for everyone in this thread.. and to think.. they want to do this to every show over 5 years.. so you can imagine this in 2010 or 2011 of them doing it to the current parada of shows on Toon Disney and then again and again...

Does this sound even fair to the fans? I think not.. after all it's time the Fans take this and go "On the Offensive.." (Hence my avitar and Subheader change) after all I'm tired to be the victim long enough.. It's time to fight back and fight back hard.. (and believe me Wolf, and folks, I plan to do so until the fans are heard! after all I'm tired or Seeing you guys suffer..this time.. it's "Fan personal", and I won't stop until the trend is reversed.."

after all you guys deserve that heritage of Disney. don't you think?

:coyote:

[DTaina]

Not only are they taking Darkwing Duck and DuckTales off the air, but they're taking off Quack Pack, Chip & Dale Rescue Rangers, Pepper Ann, and Bonkers, too?! Those shows were the only reason I even watched Toon Disney! I remember staying up all night watching those shows. At least Gargoyles is still on, but come on! Why are they doing this?!

That's why I truly believe everyone should buy the Gargoyles DVD. Show Disney that there's a market for older Disney Afternoon shows! I truly believe that if Gargoyles sells well, other shows will get the DVD treatment, and if they all sell really well, then the sky's the limit. You may not like Gargoyles, but the fate of other Disney Afternoon shows depends on it.

And now I wish I'd taped Darkwing Duck. I only have one episode on tape, "Dead Duck" (that was such a powerful episode) but there were so many good episodes. This series, as well as many others, deserves to get the DVD treatment, too!

I wish they'd stop airing shows like Teamo Supremo, Toad Patrol, and Power Rangers (which isn't even animated!) and air the older Disney Afternoon shows.

[RAINMAN]

MAN, TD is really loseing their touch for old school. How can they sleep at night doing stuff like this?:mad:

[Philo & Gunge]

How can they sleep at night doing stuff like this?:mad:Because there idiots who don't know quality programming. Who wants to watch Recess 15 times a day? It's just all:

"Hey, Mikey! Let's go pull a prank of Ms. Finister!"
"AHHH! Detwiler, you have lunch detension!"
"It wasn't me."
"Okay, then. Your off the hook."

[magicjac]

Actually, I've been bummed since ToonDisney took off Schnookums & Meat a few years ago. And they're not airing DuckTales anymore?! What's w/that?! Disney is going downhill very fast. But then again, virtually everything that's pretty good is going the way of the dinosaur.
Yes I LOVE "SChnookums & Meat Funny Cartoon Show". That was my show! And I agree with whoever saud that "The Gummi Bears" being kicked off of Toon Disney is also a big deal. TGB was Disney's first attempt at Saturday morning television and was a HUGE success. And "Ducktales' is Disney's most-successful Saturday morning cartoon ever. With that in mind, Toon Disney still cuts "Ducktales" from the channel line-up. This is utter bullsh*t. What really pisses me off is that they're airing one show for a str8 2 hours? WTF?!? "Recess" and whatever the hell else they are choosing to air doesn't have enough episodes to be aired for a full 2 hours a day 7 days a week. The show will grow old really fast, as if the shows weren't old enough. Geez I am so pissed off. How the hell can Toon Disney even THINK about kicking off all of their old DA cartoons? The point of Toon Disney is to showcase the classic Disney cartoon properties. That's why the whole damn channel was made, and the only pre-2000 Disney cartoons that remian on Toon Disney are "Mighty Ducks", "Talespin", "Goof Troop", "Little Mermaid", "The New Adventures Of Winnie The Pooh", "101 Dalmations: The Series", "Hercules", "Aladdin", "Disney's Doug", "Timon & Pumbaa"... I think that's it. "Darkwing Duck", "Bonkers", "Quack Pack", "Ducktales", "Chip & Dale Rescue Rangers" and "Pepper Ann" will all be cut from Toon Disney. BULLSH*T! And what's worse is that NONE of these shows have any DVD releases whatsoever. Damn Disney.

[ToonifiedGuy222]

MAN, TD is really loseing their touch for old school. How can they sleep at night doing stuff like this?:mad:
Well, I guess TD's movin' on to modern-day shows so we have nothing to do about that so were gonna have to deal with none of some of the most famous the old-school Disney shows. :)

[ToonifiedGuy222]

A lot of the shows of the former @toon block is goin' to late-nite programming, guess a lot of viewers don't watch those shows anymore but want some people to watch them! ;)

[magicjac]

Yes I LOVE "Schnookums & Meat Funny Cartoon Show". That was my show! And I agree with whoever saud that "The Gummi Bears" being kicked off of Toon Disney is also a big deal. TGB was Disney's first attempt at Saturday morning television and was a HUGE success. And "Ducktales' is Disney's most-successful Saturday morning cartoon ever. With that in mind, Toon Disney still cuts "Ducktales" from the channel line-up. This is utter bullsh*t. What really pisses me off is that they're airing one show for a str8 2 hours? WTF?!? "Recess" and whatever the hell else they are choosing to air doesn't have enough episodes to be aired for a full 2 hours a day 7 days a week. The show will grow old really fast, as if the shows weren't old enough. Geez I am so pissed off. How the hell can Toon Disney even THINK about kicking off all of their old DA cartoons? The point of Toon Disney is to showcase the classic Disney cartoon properties. That's why the whole damn channel was made, and the only pre-2000 Disney cartoons that remian on Toon Disney are "Mighty Ducks", "Talespin", "Goof Troop", "Little Mermaid", "The New Adventures Of Winnie The Pooh", "101 Dalmations: The Series", "Hercules", "Aladdin", "Disney's Doug", "Timon & Pumbaa"... I think that's it. "Darkwing Duck", "Bonkers", "Quack Pack", "Ducktales", "Chip & Dale Rescue Rangers" and "Pepper Ann" will all be cut from Toon Disney. BULLSH*T! And what's worse is that NONE of these shows have any DVD releases whatsoever. Damn Disney.
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It turns out that "Disney's Doug" also got booted from the channel line-up. I can't believe Toon Disney is doing this. I'm through taping "Talespin" and "The New Adventures Of Winnie The Pooh". It's not worth it if I can't ever see "Bonkers", "Ducktales", "Quack Pack", "Pepper Ann" or "Darkwing Duck" EVER AGAIN. I would just like to know how Toon Disney is going to remain re-airing the same sh*t over and over again. I can say this, I have no reason anymore to ever watch Toon Disney again. Before 11/1, the only Disney cartoons to not air on Toon Disney were "The Adventures Of The Gummi Bears", "Schnookums & Meat Funny Cartoon Show", "Raw Toonage", "Marsupilami", "The Wuzzles", and "Jungle Cubs", but now the list has GREATLY expanded. Damn Disney.

[Tobias]

I've got a feeling that the Weekenders, Garfield & Friends, and Talespin will be gone by this time next September.

[BrendaBat]

I want to send Disney a letter (snail mail not e-mail) to complain about this and suggest that they put their old shows on DVD. Problem is I can't find Disney's writing address (googling didn't help and Disney's website is too cluttered). Can any of you help me out?

[tucsoncoyote]

I want to send Disney a letter (snail mail not e-mail) to complain about this and suggest that they put their old shows on DVD. Problem is I can't find Disney's writing address (googling didn't help and Disney's website is too cluttered). Can any of you help me out?Brenda, I Think I can help you out on that one...!

Just go here (http://www.savekimpossible.com/_wsn/page4.html) and you'll have all the Help yo can need..(and they say Disney Fans don't help their kind? Well think again!) After all the address is the same just Address it to "The Head of Toon Disney"

After all we do care about Disney as much as next Fan....

If not you can always PM Me and I can quickly do the Research and find out who and were to send it too..

(and they say i'm the one who's against Disney? No I'm actually fighting FOR the Disney Fan!)

:coyote:

[tucsoncoyote]

I've got a feeling that the Weekenders, Garfield & Friends, and Talespin will be gone by this time next September.Tobias I think you are correct on that Assumption after all if you look, any and all shows older then 5 years old (and that aren't "Jetix" Based probably will be removed..) and believe me that's a disgrace on the part of Disney...I can see it happening.. and in fact.. I can feel it..

:coyote:

[SilverKnight]

I've got a feeling that the Weekenders, Garfield & Friends, and Talespin will be gone by this time next September.Given how things are turning out now, barring a major shift of the Powers that Be, that is a very real possibility. And that depresses the snot out of me.

I refused to tape Darkwing Duck on Toon Disney because knew some of the episodes had been edited, if not outright banned (>coughhotspellscough<), so I didn't want a 'tainted' copy. However, given that it's going bye-bye this Monday, and might quite possibly never return, I'm almost wishing I had. >plays taps for Darkwing Duck< Say hi to all my other childhood dreams and memories, DW. :crying:

[RAINMAN]

Well, I guess TD's movin' on to modern-day shows so we have nothing to do about that so were gonna have to deal with none of some of the most famous the old-school Disney shows. :)

I can understand that but they could atleats keep some of the old school shows around that put disny toons on the map. Or move them to another channel like CN did whit boomering.

[Starlioness]

that what I was thinking.. though I hate the concept of it being one of those .. "you need a certain doo-dadd in order to get it in..... and pay extra for it channels:mad: *snort*

[tucsoncoyote]

Given how things are turning out now, barring a major shift of the Powers that Be, that is a very real possibility. And that depresses the snot out of me.

I refused to tape Darkwing Duck on Toon Disney because knew some of the episodes had been edited, if not outright banned (>coughhotspellscough<), so I didn't want a 'tainted' copy. However, given that it's going bye-bye this Monday, and might quite possibly never return, I'm almost wishing I had. >plays taps for Darkwing Duck< Say hi to all my other childhood dreams and memories, DW. :crying:Silverknight.. it's not hopeless..

After all I'm an optimist in this matter.

After all like I said, there are some fans out here who understand your concern and in fact that's why we are out here.. fighting.. (yes fighting!) Disney in the trenches.. after all some of us "Thinkers" are already working on ideas on how to get that powershift that you mention going.. but this isn't going to be just a small fight.. this is going to be a Rather LARGE one...

after all that's why we're "Thinkers' and "do'ers" and we don't set around on these issues.. after all I personally would LOVE to see Darkwing return in better glory then it was... and with a number of New episodes as well..

so how can this be done? Well that's why I and a number of other disney Fans have banded together, and we're coming up with ideas to get this movement back to the older shows in order.. and that's the reason why I wasn't posting online that much yesterday..(after all I do a lot of Research on what we can do to help out the Disney fan..)

so I would say.. Don't give up hope yet.. not by a long shot..(not unless *Dreads* Michael Eisner has Destroyed the Original Tapes!)

after all what has been done can be undone..or as Puck from Gargoyles said it best..

The Rule that Cannot be broken surely can be BENT!

that's really all I need to say..

:coyote:

[tucsoncoyote]

I can understand that but they could atleats keep some of the old school shows around that put disny toons on the map. Or move them to another channel like CN did whit boomering.That's true but you have to think about this and this is why Disney Created Toon disney..

You could think of Toon Disney as sort of a "Toon Graveyard of sorts.." after all this is where they send shows to go after their Run on Disney channel..

but now with this new Policy in place I'm starting to wonder if Disney is really Trying to get rid of the items that made Disney Afternoon and Disney One Too and Even current ABC Kids great.. After all why this sudden shift on this? I think I know the answer..

They know that we know what is going on.. and now they are trying to cover it up..

But yes that's one thing that needs to be done.. some of these older shows need to be brought back, and in fact in a lot of cases they need to be expanded upon.. after all these are in fact what Make Disney the Classic Animation company it was.. and why we enjoyed these shows..

but if we sit around and do nothing to tell The Walt Disney Company how we feel, then nothing will get done and those Tapes and videos that were all of this will continue to sit in the Vault Gathering Dust..

so basically we do have a say in this matter, after all Like I said, I'm an optimist..

:coyote:

[angelidollinda]

*Gasp!* No Bonkers!?! :eek:

[Philo & Gunge]

*Gasp!* No Bonkers!?! :eek:Because the idiots at Disney think Recess is entertainment and DuckTales should be locked away forever.

[magicjac]

I can understand that but they could atleats keep some of the old school shows around that put disny toons on the map. Or move them to another channel like CN did whit boomering.
And the only problem with that is that Toon Disney basically is a Boomerang. Toon Disney was made to showcase the classic DA cartoons no longer on air. What really makes me mad is that Toon Disney is airing one single show for 2 hours str8 EVERY WEEKDAY. WTF?!? Disney is just so damn stupid:mad: Why over-air a show with less than 65 episodes 2 hours in a row every single weekday? Those timeslots could be filled with classic DA shows that are unfairly leaving the air. I'm so pissed at Disney for being so damn slow. I mean, just how is it that "Ducktales" was easily Disney's most successful Saturday morning cartoon and is given the Toon Disney boot, but "Teamo Supremo" was horrible and didn't last long at all, and remians on the damn channel? I don't care if TS is newer than DT, TS sucks and DT was loved by damn-near everybody. And the fact that "Mighty Ducks", "Garfield & Friends", "Talespin", "Goof Troop", "Little Mermaid", "The New Adventures Of Winnie The Pooh" and "101 Dalmations: The Series" remins on the channel is good, but not as good as "Bonkers", "Quack Pack", "Ducktales", "Chip & Dale Rescue Rangers", "Darkwing Duck", "Pepper Ann" and "Disney's Doug" remaining on the channel also. I will miss "Bokers", "Ducktales", "Pepper Ann" and "Darkwing Duck" so much:crying:

[Classic Speedy]

Because the idiots at Disney think Recess is entertainment and DuckTales should be locked away forever. I enjoy Recess once in a while- it had the same style of humor and pacing that Rugrats (1991-1994) had. Of course, I wouldn't put it above Darkwing Duck, but I DO enjoy it nonetheless.

See, here's the tricky problem with this- whereas Nickelodeon dumped all of its older shows onto NickToons TV, Noggin, and GAS, Toon Disney has nowhere to dump these older shows. It would be one thing if stuff like Bonkers and Darkwing Duck aired on the regular Disney Channel, but they don't. They already air on the spin-off network. So unless Disney creates yet ANOTHER spin-off network (like, erm, "Toon Disney Classic"), there's really nowhere for them to go with the flux of new programming taking up all the time slots. (Of course, one could say that most of the regular Disney Channel should be scrapped so that it would have more room for "classic" shows, but that's another topic)

Part of me says that if they only aired every show ONE TIME during the day, then they could easily keep both the old AND new shows, but the other part of me assumes that it must be extremely expensive to keep such a large number of shows to air. So maybe money is a part of this. :shrug:

But if I could make one suggestion, Toon Disney: TAKE OFF POWER RANGERS. It's not animation. Even though Super Team Monkey Hyper Force isn't Disney PER-SE, atleast it's animated.

[BrendaBat]

Thanks for the link, Tucsonconcoyote. :)
Since theres no ToonDisney address on that list, I'll just write to the Disney Channel and hope for the best.
I really hope I don't get one of those generic "thank you for your interest in our company" replies. :P


Origionally posted by tucsoncoyote
any and all shows older then 5 years old (and that aren't "Jetix" Based probably will be removed..) and believe me that's a disgrace on the part of Disney.Unfortunately, Disney seems to think that only people between the ages of 4 and 12 watch TV and buy stuff. :rolleyes:


Origionally posted by tucsoncoyote
but now with this new Policy in place I'm starting to wonder if Disney is really Trying to get rid of the items that made Disney Afternoon and Disney One Too and Even current ABC Kids great.. After all why this sudden shift on this? I think I know the answer..

They know that we know what is going on.. and now they are trying to cover it up...Whoa, dude! You're starting to sound like a conspiracy theorist! :p
I don't think ToonDisney is canning the older shows for the sole purpose of pissing off us older fans. They simply think that anything made before 1995 would only appeal to nostalgic message-board dorks like us. Its sad because I'm sure shows like Darkwing Duck and Rescue Rangers would be like a breath of fresh air compared to the boring kid-in-school cartoons that are all over the Disney Channel right now.

[tucsoncoyote]

Whoa, dude! You're starting to sound like a conspiracy theorist! :p
I don't think ToonDisney is canning the older shows for the sole purpose of pissing off us older fans. They simply think that anything made before 1995 would only appeal to nostalgic message-board dorks like us. Its sad because I'm sure shows like Darkwing Duck and Rescue Rangers would be like a breath of fresh air compared to the boring kid-in-school cartoons that are all over the Disney Channel right now.Actually Brenda, I'm a Realist when it comes to Disney Programs and shows and I notice Patterns that have occurred in the past and how it relates to the current shows on Disney Channel and Toon Disney, and in fact a lot of shows I can assure you are not just part of some "Conspiracy Theory". In fact, A lot of shows could have been running just as Fresh as today well beyond 65 episodes.. but I still have got to find out why this 65 episode policy is in place and figure why Disney is abusing it to the extreme.

So the question I do have to ask is this.. Why Did it take 7 years for Gargoyles to finally Get just 13 episodes into a boxed set? Will it take that Long for both Lilo and Stitch and Kim Possible to receive even such a paltry treatment?

So if I am spouting conspiracy.. then ask yourself this.. why haven't they put Darkwing Duck or Bonkers or Ducktales or any Disney Afternoon Classic Shows on Boxed DVD Sets?

When you can fins an answer as to WHY then you can tell me.. until then, I'll stick to what I know.. not what I think...

:coyote:

[BrendaBat]

So if I am spouting conspiracy.. then ask yourself this.. why haven't they put Darkwing Duck or Bonkers or Ducktales or any Disney Afternoon Classic Shows on Boxed DVD Sets? Because they don't think DVD sets of old shows that aren't even on the air anymore will sell. Its not an anti-nerd conspiracy; its simply business. The fact that 2-D animation is viewed as financial poison in todays animation industry probably doesn't help either. :(

Hopefully the Gargoyles DVDs will sell well and show Disney that there is a market for older shows (and that people older than 12 really do watch TV and buy stuff).:D

[tucsoncoyote]

Because they don't think DVD sets of old shows that aren't even on the air anymore will sell. Its not an anti-nerd conspiracy; its simply business. The fact that 2-D animation is viewed as financial poison in todays animation industry probably doesn't help either. :(

Hopefully the Gargoyles DVDs will sell well and show Disney that there is a market for older shows (and that people older than 12 really do watch TV and buy stuff).:DIn fact that's very true Brenda, and in fact you might be surprised that even some of the newer shows (Like those of Kim Possible and Lilo and Stitch are being watched by people who are older too..(Again not an anti-nerd or Anti-teen Conspiracy theory here either..) After all the average Viewer of Kim Possible I've found isn't 7 or 12, or even 20.. it's 29... that's right 29... so this proves this point even more.. after all I've seen people even OLDER then this median age watching this show.. but that doesn't mean the older folks don't like the older shows as well. after all we grew up and we know what is quality in terms of entertainment.. and that's the fallacy that Disney has fallen into..

they need to rethink after all that like you said, a lot of older fans do buy older shows.. and older shows mean money in Disney's pocket..

so hence the reasoning behind this..

:coyote:

[Tobias]

If G.I. Joe, Jem, Transformers, and My Little Pony can get full series releases, then why can't Gummi Bears, Ducktales and the rest? Joe (S3P2), Jem (S3P2), and MLP (Complete S2) are all one set away from having their complete series on DVD.

[tucsoncoyote]

If G.I. Joe, Jem, Transformers, and My Little Pony can get full series releases, then why can't Gummi Bears, Ducktales and the rest? Joe (S3P2), Jem (S3P2), and MLP (Complete S2) are all one set away from having their complete series on DVD.That's a Good question Tobias, and Perhaps This relates back to Brenda's Comments about this..

I think the real Reason why Disney isn't even thinking this is because of the fact that they don't realize they have an Untapped Potential Market here.. and it is because of this that they feel that the Walt Disney Company would be "Taking a Risk" Tapping into this so called "Untapped" Potential Market or Markets". In short, Disney feels that these markets are not as worthy as say the 7-15 year old markets that are currently out there.. But the Walt Disney Company Tends to forget one thing....

Those 7-15 year olds? Slowly become the older teens and Adults who do go out and buy this Disney stuff (if not for themselves but for their futureu Kids..) and that in itself is an untapped Potential.) Meanwhile Companies and shows you have mentioned have wanted to tap those potentials and in fact that is why shows like you have mentioned plus others (Including Marathon's Totally Spies!) turn out the DVD's and Boxed Sets... and by thus doing so, capitalize on the gains that they do by taking those risks..

so in a way you could say that the "Mouse" has Turned "Chicken" when it comes to taking risks...even calculated risks...

that's all I need to say.

:coyote:

[Tintin]

No!!! Bonkers, one of my very favorite shows are gone!!! Welcome to 2004 guys!! :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying:

[momotronix]

They show DinoThunder way too much, now perhaps if they showed Best of Power Rangers on TD, this PR on TD issue wouldn't be that big, but if they replaced PR with Darkwing Duck it would make a lot of people happy.