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JohnCrichton

10-17-2004, 01:45 PM

Heads up space cowboys, we're making gravy without the lumps, as televisions greatest sci fi series blasts back onto the small screen with both guns blazin'!

That's right, true believers... because crackers do matter, John Crichton and the rag tag crew of the LIVING starship, Moya, are back!

It is my sincere honor to present to you the Talkback for Farscape: The Peace Keeper Wars, tonight at 8pm Central.... ONLY the Sci Fi Channel!

http://www.scifi.com/farscape/peacekeeperwars/promote_farscape/farscape_pkw_300x250.jpg

From the Offiical Website (http://www.farscape.com):
Farscape: The Peacekeeper Wars continues the adventures of astronaut John Crichton and his intergalactic comrades. Newly engaged and expectant parents John Crichton (Ben Browder) and Aeryn Sun (Claudia Black) have been chased around the galaxy, have fallen in love and now all they want is for their baby to be born and live in peace. However they’ll first have to survive an all-out galactic war between the Scarrans and Peacekeepers as well as a myriad of outlandish and unexpected surprises that have become the hallmark of this award-winning series.

shoujoaifan

10-17-2004, 06:12 PM

Fraelin' Sweet, Fraelin' Sweet...( Is that spelled right? WHAT is it spelled as? And HOW did I get into a dialogue about the spelling for a made-up word? :p )

Lord Dalek

10-17-2004, 06:34 PM

God, I hate not having a tv and missing this. :sad:

JohnCrichton

10-17-2004, 07:12 PM

Fraelin' Sweet, Fraelin' Sweet...( Is that spelled right? WHAT is it spelled as? And HOW did I get into a dialogue about the spelling for a made-up word? :p )

You mean, "Frell." ;)

Funkatron

10-17-2004, 07:43 PM

For those who don't know, the miniseries is gonna have 2 movie length parts. The schedual is alittle wierd:

Part 1 of the PEacekeeper Wars will air tonight at 9pm and then re-air 2 more times in a row afterwords that night

on Monday, Part 1 will air AGAIN at 7, followed by 2 showings of Part 2

On Tues, there will be 2 showings of Part 2 at 7.
Each of the parts are 2 hours long

So basically, no excuse to miss it.

I've been watching the show on and off during the ubre marathon the past 2 weeks and I must say, this is the freakin most well written, funny, awesome sci-fi show..EVER!!!! It even rivals Stargate and Star Trek: TNG in my book.

Mek

10-17-2004, 08:50 PM

The 'rents and I are all set up to watch it. :D

I CAN'T WAIT. ^_____^

ToonamiFanatic

10-17-2004, 11:05 PM

I just got through watching it. I thought it was excellent! I havent been caught up on farscape sorta of missed the 3rd and fourth seasons. I caught a few on the recent marathon. cant wait untill part 2 tomorrow

Mek

10-17-2004, 11:10 PM

HOLY CRAP THAT WAS AWESOME!!!! ^_____^

Ohhhh man, why does tomorrow night seem like forever now? D=

This was just *awesome*! I missed the last half of season 5, but I pretty much knew most of what was going on. Everything about it was just... frelling incredible. *____*

Paul_Cousins

10-17-2004, 11:41 PM

To quote John Crichton, "CAN I GET A HELL YEA?!!!"

The first two parts a were an 11 out of 10. They blew me a away in the quality. I felt like I was watching a full feature movie. They fitted 11 episodes worth of Farscape in two hours. I look forward tomorrow night's episodes (3 and 4)

By the way, it seems that KFC is partly responsible (besides the fanbase) for giving us this miniseries, so I plan to get some chicken from them sometime this week.

Here are some of the things I liked about this miniseries, without major spoilers.

The quotes and injokes.

The action.

The plot.

The characters.

The special effects.

The Harvey scenes. Einstein Harvey, "Scorpius is like God, John. He does not play dice with the universe." :cool:

Rygel's stomach has gotten him into new levels of trouble. ;)

And 'Jool of the wild'. :evil:

JohnCrichton

10-17-2004, 11:51 PM

Fan-friggin'-tastic. God, it's good to see the crew of Moya again. I though Soukozu said surprisingly little this episode and maybe it's been a while, but I don't remember her being so... simple.

Special effects were excellent.

I can't believe they killed Jool like that! Travel across the galaxy to bring her back into the show, upgrade her look to something quite sexy..... only to fwickin' nuke her!

Tons of great quotes all around.

I look forward to seeing how they wrap this thing up and to finally find out why John is laying in a bed by himself in a ruined and wrecked Moya.

Sigma

10-18-2004, 12:22 AM

I just got back from seeing Team America for the second time so I missed about 20 minutes of the Peacekeeper Wars, but I will be sure to make that up when it re-airs again. Like alot of you I missed out on a good chunk of Farscape, but plan on buying the DVDs too catch up because I love the show.

Fone Bone

10-18-2004, 06:26 AM

As far as I'm concerned The Peacekeeper Wars is the best thing that has or will air this season on television. And it's only October.

I'm loving this. I was SO surprised to see Jothee. I loved how D'Argo clocked him the second he knew who it was. Such a tender father/son moment.

Even though I knew Rygel was going to be pregnant it was hilarious the way they pulled it off.

John Crichton is the greatest Sci-Fi hero EVER! Generations from now, sci-fi writers will be keeping him in mind just as today's writers keep in mind James Kirk. Imagine a manogamous heartthrob with total devotion to ONE woman. Who'd'a thunk it?

Chiana's new eyes are creepy and the only thing I'm not digging so far.

Man, I missed Stark in season four. I wonder how his absorbing that peaceful alien's essense will play out. He obviously did NOT want to do it.

I have a bad feeling there may be a traitor. I REALLY hope I'm wrong.

Wild Jool is HOT! Or WAS hot. I can't believe they killed her off like that. A great and unexpected twist. I loved how she thought there was something between her and Crichton. I'm starting to think ALL of the females on this show think that.

I like Braca's soul patch.

Harvey Einstein was hilarious. His Nazi salute was SO funny. I recognized the tribute to Dr. Strangelove even if I haven't seen the whole thing.

I didn't even recognize Sikozu until they said her name. I always loved how she always had wild powers.

Scorpius and Crichton seem to be uneasy allies again. Hopefully he'll remove Harvey before this is all over. Him being tortured by the Scarran King was scary.

Speaking of the Scarran King I loved his and John's trip to the keeper of the wormholes. I always loved that guy and I'm glad he had an appearance here. It was AWESOME how he owned the Scarran General like that. Teach that buttmonkey some humility!

Not much of Naranti so far.

I love Pilot. I just want to give him a big hug.

I REALLY want John and Aeryn's baby to be all right. I love how it being important to John means it's important to her. And get them married already!

I was bummed Sci-Fi Channel shrunk the end credits for this. Paul Goddard, Raleigh Hill, Rebecca Riggs, Tammy MacIntish, Lani Tupu and Jonathon Hardy didn't even get to have their names appear. Speaking of which, did the opening credits seem too small to anyone else? They were very hard to read.

Where do we send our crackers to get more Farscape?

***** for part one. (A mod should add a poll.)

Paul_Cousins

10-18-2004, 12:40 PM

Where do we send our crackers to get more Farscape?KFC was a major sponser (which has been known publically for over the past year on www.watchfarscape.com (http://www.watchfarscape.com)) so I suggest a bucket of fried chicken from them and to fill out a customer service card that they have to say you went there because they supported the Farscape Miniseries would be a good start.

Clayface

10-18-2004, 01:12 PM

Fans can also thank KFC through their website. I just filled out a comment card (http://64.213.197.19/forms/irpt_welcome.asp?brandid=80) thanking them for their support and telling them I'd return the favor by increasing my number of visits to their restaurants.

Paul_Cousins

10-18-2004, 05:36 PM

Swordfish_II

10-18-2004, 11:01 PM

Well, I am satisfied.

Though I wonder how everything would have played out over a 22 episode season...

5/5

gohan11

10-18-2004, 11:09 PM

I must say I was happy with the ending, finally some closure.

Mek

10-18-2004, 11:42 PM

Best. Ending. EVER.

And Aeryn... she's so AWESOME. *___*

I am really worried about D'argo though... did he really die? ;_;

JohnCrichton

10-18-2004, 11:53 PM

D'argo really died... if the fire fight didn't take him, the exploding planet definately finished him off. He's tough, but not that tough.

And hell yeah, that was one hell of a beautiful finish to one of the greatest sci-fi series ever made.

I get so sick of these military based sci-fi space shows that it's good just to see a guy on his own, with a band of rogues blasting their way through the galaxy.

John Crichton will be missed along with the rest of the cast and crew of Farscape. I sincerely hope that someday we're able to return back to that world, but with out they sewed everything up... if they didn't I will truely be content.

Many thanks, John Crichton... the astronaut! I'm proud to share the name. http://www.ryanjpeters.com/images/emoticons/thumbs.gif

Fone Bone

10-18-2004, 11:58 PM

Bwah! D'Argo died! I was SO sad! His last moments with John and Chiana were so great. I loved how Crichton made sure he told the Scarrans who their daddy was. His asking for Chiana and them both laughing was awesome.

John and Aeryn could not have chosen a better name for their son.

I was so relieved the traitor was Sikozu. I was worried it was Stark. What happened to Sikozu anyways? Did she die?

Scorpuis begging John pretty please with a cherry on top for the wormhole weapon was a hightlight.

Well, Harvey's dead. At least he went out in a 2001: A Space Odessey tribute.

I really love Einstein and was glad he and Crichton had another time free association.

Rygel with post partum depression was comedy GOLD!

I love Pilot.

We never found out who was the father of Graza's baby.

Did Braca die? I didn't see where he ended up.

Stark finally finding peace made me happy.

Speaking of peace I was very pleased with the resolution. Crichton was willing to give up the lives of his wife and baby if they couldn't live in peace. Very moving and it worked on many levels.

I felt really bad for Chiana. I assume Rygel will assume the throne back on Hyneria. At least she knows him there.

A fantastic conclusion to a fantastic miniseries. NOW will a mod add a poll? *****.

Looks like I'm going to KFC soon.

Wounded_Dragon

10-18-2004, 11:59 PM

Well, frell *at the ending*

You the daddy John, you the daddy.

Charlie

10-19-2004, 02:04 AM

gohan11

10-19-2004, 07:38 AM

D'Argo will be soarly missed, atleast by me.
I never really started to enjoy Farscape untill I found out that it was cancelled. Ah well, fitting end for a great series. Though I did wish for John to eventually get home, I guess this is as good as it'll get for an ending. Mabey someday we'll get a sequal or something, but after watching this I'm not so sure I would want one.

Five Stars.
He did get home in the fourth season, but in order to protect it he had to cut his ties with earth.

Also if they ever made a sequel to Farscape (Ben said himself there could be a movie if the mini series did well) D'Argo could have been saved by Sikozu and that that guy who found her (no matter how unlikely that is). If there is never a movie then he is dead, but if there is... remember you never actualy saw him die.

JohnCrichton

10-19-2004, 07:58 AM

I was pretty confused by that last sight of Sikozou. O_o What was up with that? I'd have thought Scorpius frelling killed her, but there she was... looking pretty beat down, but definately not dead. What was the purpose of seeing her one last time?

JohnCrichton

10-19-2004, 08:02 AM

We never found out who was the father of Graza's baby.

For a time, John was hitting cakes with Graza... if they ever did the further adventures of their kids... that'd be pretty awesome to see siblings square off against each other... IN SPACE!

Again, fantastic ending, but I wanna go back to that world again.

Fone Bone

10-19-2004, 10:18 AM

For a time, John was hitting cakes with Graza... if they ever did the further adventures of their kids... that'd be pretty awesome to see siblings square off against each other... IN SPACE!

Again, fantastic ending, but I wanna go back to that world again.I know. But she hypnotized him.

I want to see more Farscape too. I'll be going to KFC soon to fill out those cards.

Ed Liu

10-19-2004, 10:32 AM

Howdy,

Big time spoilers come, so don't read if you haven't seen it yet!

One of the things I liked the most about Farscape is that they avoided the trap that latter-day Star Trek does of never substantively changing the status quo. Trek will create a duplicate of someone to result in a sweet, happy, and 100% resolved ending 40-minutes-after-commercials later. Farscape ran with duplicate Crichton for months just to see what would happen. Trek does time-travel stories all the time, showing that things stayed the same or got worse. Farscape did the unthinkable, and showed that time travel can cause as much harm as good.

So, it figures that the movie that ties up all the loose ends continues in that grand tradition and go in every direction except the expected one, for the most part. One thing I liked the most about Farscape is that each major cast member has their own agenda, which only sometimes aligns with the agendas of even the others ostensibly on the same side. The most obvious example is Scorpius, who remains one of the most complex and inscrutable characters on the show. He constantly defies your expectations, acting benevolently only to reveal his own vicious self-interest, and then swings over to astonishingly savage behavior driven by altrustic motives. I hesitate to even call him a villain -- another place where Farscape consistently defies expectations.

I loved fact that they revealed the origins of the PKs and their connection to Earth, along with the not-so-subtle commentary on the limits behind an army "forcing peace." The commentary on wormhole weaponry was also pretty transparent, but experience with world history suggests that it won't take long before the lesson is forgotten and the PKs and the Scarrans are at it again.

If they do continue the Farscape world, I hope they DON'T resurrect D'Argo through some miracle. The farewells between Moya's crew and D'Argo bordered on cheesy, saved mostly by the, "No, go away so I can talk to Chiana" line -- another example of defying the expectations. As much as I love the big lug, I don't want his sacrifice cheapened by a resurrection. Besides, I love the last image we have of him bleeding out, pulse weapons blazing in each hand, screaming, "I'M YOUR DADDY!!!!" to any Scarran who comes.

Does anybody else feel that a LOT of stuff got left on the cutting room floor erroneously in the last episode? Off the top of my head, we never really saw what happened to Sikozu and that pale Doctor guy OR what happened to Grandma/Noranti ("Oh, yes, I have a weapon. However, we're short on ammunition, so it's unloaded." :D).

Obscure trivia moment: the face-down rappelling that the Luxan commandos did is called "Australian rappelling. (http://www2.uiuc.edu/unit/armyrotc/program/rappelling.html)" It's a way to rappell down a cliff face quickly and with your hands free for a weapon, and it sure didn't look like an effect. Since they film in Australia, I'm wondering if the 'Scaper crew managed to get actual Australian soldiers as extras for the Luxans.

Last note is to thank you all for posting the talkback thread, or else I would have forgotten Peacekeeper Wars was on. And now, off to KFC for some high-sodium, high-fat, unhealthy food that brought quality TV on the air -- a Faustian bargain if ever I heard one :).

-- Ed/Ace

Fone Bone

10-19-2004, 10:47 AM

Thanks Ace! I agree completely about Scorpius. He is a great character because he is not exactly a villian. He reminds me of Buffy The Vampire Slayer's Spike before he got a soul except more complex. His "pretty please with a cherry on top" to Crichton about the wormhole weapon spoke volumes about his character.

I hope D'Argo isn't ressurrected either although I loved his farewell to Chiana. Him screaming at the Scarrans that he was their Daddy was a perfect note for him to go out on.

And yes, a lot of stuff with Noranti and Sikozu seemed left out.

Edit: Ace, could you add a poll?

Ed Liu

10-19-2004, 12:31 PM

Howdy,

Edit: Ace, could you add a poll?
I would, guv'nor, but it's not me playground. I'm sure at least one of the Entertainment Mods is a 'Scaper fan and will get to it eventually.

Besides, I can't imagine the poll will give more information than what we already have. The people who hate Farscape (philistines!) are just gonna complain that its chewing up time from the crappy reality shows and made-for-TV movies SciFi normally shows, and the rabid 'Scapers who boycotted SciFi over the cancellation are just going to give it 5 stars :).

BTW, hands up: who'd go out and buy at least a 3-piece meal from KFC on the spot if they started an ad campaign starring the Farscape cast reacting to a bucket while they were on Earth? :D And who's bored enough to actually SCRIPT such a thing?

-- Ed/Ace

Kathy Kane

10-19-2004, 12:41 PM

I was weeping when they first "killed" Dargo and Chiana. I really like how Dargo went out fighing at the end and naming the kid Dargo is :D .
I'm glad that the show ended with a lot of things tied up. Accept who is Graza's baby daddy, I don't think it's John's since he was dead for 60 days.
I give it 5 stars!!!!

Mek

10-19-2004, 12:51 PM

Clayface

10-19-2004, 01:21 PM

From what I understand, it wasn't entirely Sci-Fi's fault that Farscape originally got cancelled. Blame it on EM.tv, the previous owners of Jim Henson Productions. They went pretty much bankrupt, and well... they had to make some cuts to save money. Farscape happened to be one of them.

Not true. That was the initial report, based on Anthony Simcoe's first postings about the cancellation. It turned out this wasn't the case. From this article (http://www.muppetcentral.com/news/2002/090902.shtml):

The first person associated with the show to offer any insight as to why the cancellation occurred was actor Anthony "D'Argo" Simcoe who mentioned in a chat on Saturday that "as far as I know SCI Fi wants it. It's EM [meaning EM.TV, Jim Henson's parent company] that sunk it." This information however turned out to be incorrect. Series creator Rockne S. O'Bannon later issued a statement to fans stating "I want to make it crystal clear to everyone that despite what Anthony said, EM.TV is only a tangential player in the demise of Farscape. The SCI Fi Channel chose not to pick up the series for Season Five, period. To say that they want the show is completely false. Please don't let the real story get clouded. Writing letters to EM-TV in German[y] won't hurt, but it shouldn't be the focus of anyone who is moved to protest." Further pieces of information that has leaked out from insiders indicate that SciFi wanted to cut costs and not pay as much for the shows to which EM.TV balked.

Click here (http://www.watchfarscape.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8477) to learn all you'd ever want to know about Sci-Fi's cancellation of the series, and just why fans are so miffed at the network.

SSJPabs

10-19-2004, 01:31 PM

I've always enjoyed Farscape, though I'm not a diehard fan. I'll usually just run into an episode and enjoy it and then run into another a few weeks later but I really did enjoy it quite a bit.

If they do continue a story with John's kid (or kids) I would really like Earth to be in on it somehow. I mean the last we knew of well... us, we were coming together and we'd have all the information on the tech the other guys have. My personal Sci-Fi fantasies involve Earth becoming a major power and I'd like to see that in Farscape. Now would we be the good guys, or the bad guys or something else? That's the interesting part :D

Otherwise, not too bad a movie (for all that I only saw maybe an hour of it, I'll wait and see the whole thing at once next sunday) nice job Jim Hensen!

Fone Bone

10-19-2004, 01:48 PM

Not true. That was the initial report, based on Anthony Simcoe's first postings about the cancellation. It turned out this wasn't the case. From this article (http://www.muppetcentral.com/news/2002/090902.shtml):

Click here (http://www.watchfarscape.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8477) to learn all you'd ever want to know about Sci-Fi's cancellation of the series, and just why fans are so miffed at the network.God I hate The Sci-Fi Channel. You'd figure a channel that tries to reach genre fans would have the sense to not piss off devoted fans. That's who the Sci-Fi Channel was originally marketed towards, correct?

Now we're scoffed at by the network president who talks about wanting a "broader" audience (read non-sci-fi geeks) and panders to the lowest common denominator with Scare Tactics, Crossing Over, and Tripping the Rift.

By the way folks, Sci-Fi did NOTHING to revive Farscape. It was all The Jim Henson Company. If Sci-Fi refused to air it, it would have been syndicated. We were getting this mini-series whether SFC was on board or not. "Sci-Fi Channel Proudly Presents..." indeed.:rolleyes:

Mek

10-19-2004, 02:54 PM

My mistake. D=

I'll just... go back into my hole and hide....

Charlie

10-19-2004, 05:53 PM

He did get home in the fourth season, but in order to protect it he had to cut his ties with earth.Yeah, I did see that one, but I meant along the lines of "Living Happlily Ever After".

Fone Bone

10-19-2004, 06:36 PM

Yeah, I did see that one, but I meant along the lines of "Living Happlily Ever After".I think he will: just with Aeryn and D'Argo. Leave it to Farscape to twist around the audiences expectations like that.

Clayface

10-21-2004, 11:04 AM

I'm on the Creation Entertainment mailing list, and I got this e-mail today that I thought I'd share:

FARSCAPE PEACEKEEPER WARS DVD PRE-ORDER TODAY!

The incredible mini-series that Scapers have demanded is now coming to DVD for release January 18, 2005. And, when you pre-order your copy (hot off the presses) from Creation we're offering an OUTRAGEOUS special exclusive that makes us THE place to get your copy!

Packing over 4 Hours of show, plus extras,:

- "The Making of The Peacekeeper Wars " (30-minutes)
- Interactive Conceptual Art Gallery
- Authentic Production Storyboards
- Spacecraft Gallery
- And much, much more!

The specs on this are: Widescreen Video, English 5.1 Dolby Audio, English 2.0 Surround Audio, and English & Spanish Subtitles.

AND HERE'S THE CREATION EXCLUSIVE: Every order will include a hand signed autographed licensed Farscape photo! That's right: EVERY order will get an autographed photo and it gets even better: ONE in TWENTY-FIVE orders (selected randomly) will include a Ben Browder or a Claudia Black or a photo signed by both Ben and Claudia. These autographs are VERY tough to get, so this is quite the deal! But remember, EVERYONE is a winner!

This special offer is time-limited, so order today for only $19.98 by visiting us online!

THIS OFFER IS ONLY VALID FOR FANS LIVING IN THE UNITED STATES AND CANADA.

For anyone interested, here's the link (http://www.creationent.com/iwwida.pvx?;products_no_tree?cat=FS?comp=CET). The DVD itself isn't priced too badly ($20), but the shipping it outrageous - $9! The DVD (minus the signed picture of course) is also available for preorder on amazon.com for much cheaper ($16 plus shipping).

Mysteryinfoman

10-27-2004, 03:02 PM

Saw my recordings last night and they were amazing. Some great moments, pretty much what everyone said. Missed some epsiodes of the last season but not the final one and I was like what? but I pretty much understood the movie. A dvd, that sounds great. Also interesting link you out up Clayface about the cancellation and Sci-fi.