View Full Version : Most short cartoon of all time
Tintin
11-17-2001, 12:33 PM
Who's that at your opinion the most short cartoon of all time?
Mine are Hook, Line and Stinker of Warner Bros. The during in 4:28 only!
Cartman
11-17-2001, 01:22 PM
Well, I thought the Bugs Bunny short MAD AS A MARS HARE was pretty short. Also, when I first saw the Donald Duck cartoon SPARE THE ROD, I thought it was rather short. Then, I learned that the original version had a bunch of scenes featuring pygmy cannibals. All these had been cut out, turning the short into a 2.5 minute disaster.
Matthew Hunter
11-17-2001, 02:13 PM
"September in the rain" isn't very long, at least, the censored version.
-Matthew
dendawg
11-17-2001, 03:34 PM
Also, there's "Box Office Bunny" and the horribly cut ABC version of "Bonanza Bunny." (No Little Joe and Hoss in it either!:p )
JaGSQ
11-17-2001, 04:13 PM
The shortest short which holds the record, if it hasn't been out done in the past few years, is Bambi vs Godzilla which is maybe 30 seconds long at most
Pietro
11-17-2001, 04:40 PM
One of the most shortest cartoons is probably the Bugs Bunny bond trailer "Any Bonds Today?"
The Private Snafu and Mr. Hook cartoons are really short too. The early Felix the Cat short "All Puzzled" is REALLY short!
And Lantz's Oswald the Lucky Rabbit cartoons are vary from really long to really short. Probably the shortest Oswald cartoon I've seen is "The Prision Panic" (1930).
-Pietro:D
Tintin
11-17-2001, 04:51 PM
"Cat Feud", the edited version of "Duck Dodgers and the Return of the 24 1/2th century" and "Spaced-Out Bunny" was also very shorting cartoons. In particularity Cat Feud.
Thad Komorowski
11-17-2001, 06:53 PM
The Famous Popeyes/Harveytoons weren't that long either, minus the opening and closing credits. The only reason of Herman and Katnip's usual 7 minute length in the early to mid 50's, was because of the Skiddle Diddle Dee song, which was nearly a minute....
-Thad
J Lee
11-17-2001, 09:26 PM
Paramount, Lantz and Terrytoons all were shorter on average than the Warner, Disney and MGM toons coming out at the same time. In ye olde days of independent station syndication, they could always squeeze four Popeyes, Noveltoons, Terrytoons or Woody Woodpeckers into a 30 minute block, while only three WB or MGM toons would fit in the same hole (those days, or course, being at a time when few of those cartoons were edited...)
Patrick McCart
11-18-2001, 06:49 PM
The shortest cartoon is "@" and it's 8 seconds long.
It's a strip of clear film that was painted with transparent inks and it's like a moving "painting"
:D
Mibbitmaker
11-20-2001, 03:12 AM
The edited versions of cartoons like Coal Black and Tokio Jokio clock in at 0 minutes, 0 seconds! :rolleyes: ...... :(
Brandon Pierce
11-20-2001, 03:38 AM
From Hare to Eternity, Compressed Hare, a lot of the Rudy Larriva directed Road Runner cartoons are short.
Nelson
11-20-2001, 10:46 AM
Actually there are two Disney cartoons that are under six minutes and they are....
The Skeleton Dance 5:34 (not sure on the seconds)
Cannibal Capers 5:56
lislebartman
11-20-2001, 12:07 PM
How about the ABC network versions of:
D'Fightin' Ones
Hare-less Wolf
Bonanza Bunny
Hare Trimmed
After these were edited, they were under 5 minutes long!
Steve Carras
10-23-2002, 12:07 AM
To continue this topic..
The most LEGITAMATE categoryu should be "in their entirety" (and most reissue prints are about the same length.
Most Gumby shorts are about 5 minutes (the original 1950s-60s). Hanna-Barbera's segemnts (incl."Ruff and Reffy"'s cliffhanger segments) clock in about 6 minutes.
Warner Bros.cartoons started getting about 6 minutes in late 1950s. In fact I'll start a longest cartoon (ONE REELER) thread..(we know two reelers are longer than, say, 7 minutes.)
Jason Furness
10-23-2002, 04:21 AM
"Box Office Bunny" was pretty dang short. Probably the shortest Loney Tune ever! I think it was under 5 minutes long.
"Plane Crazy" was also quite short, also something like 4-5 minutes long.
As for television shorts, Animaniacs had plenty of short ones on hand. One cartoon, "Gimme a Break", was only about 1 minute or so long, simply because one of the main characters decided she didn't feel like finishing the cartoon...
Freakazoid had at least two really short cartoons that I can remember, "Legends who Lunch" and "The Lobe". Probably 2 minutes tops, each.
candy17
10-23-2002, 01:06 PM
Originally posted by Brandon Pierce
From Hare to Eternity, Compressed Hare, a lot of the Rudy Larriva directed Road Runner cartoons are short.
From Hare to Eternity didn't seem that short to me. Neither did Compressed Hare.
The Pepe cartoons "Louvre Come Back to Me" and "Scent of the Matterhorn" are short, but that's because (to me) they seemed rushed, not like the ones from the 1950's.
Wideo Wabbit (the edited version with no "You Beat Your Wife" references) might be short.
candy17
10-23-2002, 01:08 PM
Originally posted by Jason Furness
"Box Office Bunny" was pretty dang short. Probably the shortest Loney Tune ever! I think it was under 5 minutes long.
Is that the uncut version or the edited ABC version where this part was cut
the ending where Daffy and Elmer run screaming out of the "That's All Folks!" card after getting trapped in a "Friday the 13th-esque movie and Bugs comes out and says "That's All Folks".
candy17
10-23-2002, 02:24 PM
Originally posted by lislebartman
How about the ABC network versions of:
D'Fightin' Ones
Hare-less Wolf
Bonanza Bunny
Hare Trimmed
After these were edited, they were under 5 minutes long!
"Hare Trimmed" probably takes the cake as the shortest cartoon that was edited by ABC because ABC cut out
Granny confusing Sam for being drunk after getting run down by a piano.
The scene where Granny goes to get Sam some coffee and Bugs (dressed as Granny) comes along and hits Sam with a mallet. When the real Granny comes, Sam explodes and kicks the cup out of Granny's hand and Granny runs up the stairs.
Scenes of Sam trying to cajole Granny out of her room (you know the scene, the one with Sam saying "I can see you through the keyhole" before getting shot) because of Granny shooting at Sam and Sam's so called "perverted" line.
Bugs (in Granny's clothes) hits Sam with a mallet once again.
Though I'm surprised the ending where Sam and Bugs get married wasn't cut by the ultra-liberal ABC.
Also I'm overjoyed that CN airs this (and the other cartoons) uncut.
rodney
10-23-2002, 02:45 PM
Having fun with the spoiler option are we?
Pietro
10-23-2002, 02:53 PM
Originally posted by Pietro
One of the most shortest cartoons is probably the Bugs Bunny bond trailer "Any Bonds Today?"
The Private Snafu and Mr. Hook cartoons are really short too. The early Felix the Cat short "All Puzzled" is REALLY short!
And Lantz's Oswald the Lucky Rabbit cartoons are vary from really long to really short. Probably the shortest Oswald cartoon I've seen is "The Prision Panic" (1930).
I'd also like to add the Fox and Crow short, "Foxy Flatfoots."
And of course, there's "Africa Squeaks" (the three minute edited version that aired on on Nick). There's absolutely NO natives in the edited print AT ALL!
-Pietro:D
candy17
10-23-2002, 04:24 PM
Originally posted by rodney
Having fun with the spoiler option are we?
Yeah.
I also want to say I'm sorry when I first came on the Termite Terrace Trading Post and acted like a jerk. It's just that, I love and know everything about classic and modern cartoons, no matter how mediocre either of them are. But (and this is a big but), there are people on this site who completely despise the Cartoon Cartoons on CN because they get more airtime than the classic stuff. I love both the LT cartoons and the Cartoon Cartoons that are on my signature and I don't see why people get so uptight about it. I mean, as long as a cartoon doesn't sell out to commercialism or teaching morals, cartoons can be enjoyed by everyone, whether you're a diehard for the classics or if you have an open mind and are willing to see a new generation of animators, writers, background artists, and voice actors.
candy17
10-23-2002, 04:26 PM
Originally posted by lislebartman
How about the ABC network versions of:
D'Fightin' Ones
Hare-less Wolf
Bonanza Bunny
Hare Trimmed
After these were edited, they were under 5 minutes long!
I know what was cut from Hare Trimmed, but refresh my memory about the other three?
rodney
10-23-2002, 04:34 PM
I hesitate turning this thread into another CartoonCartoon discussion, but, there are people here (myself included) who feel that CN neglects the classic cartoon fan. There is a place for new animation on any network made up of animation. One can't help but feel slighted when looking at the numbers.
Personally, I don't hate all new Cartoons, though I find very few that I enjoy more than slightly.
And, I am impressed with your knowledge, though I hesitate to say that you know everything ! There are some ultra smart people on here who know stuff I've never thought about before.
Daffyfan2002
10-23-2002, 07:28 PM
That's alright Candy. We accept your apology. I have to agree with Lislebartman. ABC chopped a lot of cartoons to shreds. They also did it with "Bonanza Bunny" and "Hare Less Wolf." I guess they were either reducing the violence or shortening cartoons to make time for "Schoolhouse Rock," or maybe both.
Boy Wonder
10-23-2002, 08:14 PM
Originally posted by Matthew Hunter
"September in the rain" isn't very long, at least, the censored version.
-Matthew
Yeah, I'm in with him on this one, and Patient Porky seemed only 5 minutes long. :bosko:
candy17
10-24-2002, 07:48 AM
Originally posted by Boy Wonder
Yeah, I'm in with him on this one, and Patient Porky seemed only 5 minutes long. :bosko:
Was that with or without the scenes with the stereotypically black elevator operator, because I saw both versions on CN (*shocker*!) and it didn't make a world of difference.
absolutpaul
10-24-2002, 12:59 PM
How come Chuck Jones always told that story of how Looney Tunes were all exactly 6 minutes long because Leon Schlesinger wouldn't spend a dime for another second of footage? I don't think there's any Warner cartoons (produced by Leon or not) that were exactly 6 minutes long. Where did this story originate?
Sogturtle
10-24-2002, 04:07 PM
Originally posted by absolutpaul
How come Chuck Jones always told that story of how Looney Tunes were all exactly 6 minutes long because Leon Schlesinger wouldn't spend a dime for another second of footage? I don't think there's any Warner cartoons (produced by Leon or not) that were exactly 6 minutes long. Where did this story originate?
Not knocking Chuck (whom I love), but it really goes back to his attitude to bosses... he hated them all with an undying hatred!!! Schlesinger, Katz, Selzer, and Jack Warner were veritable incarnations of Satan for him (or complete dolts). [Mercifully he never said much of anything about Iwerks or Lantz, likely because they had both been longtime director/animators though both fired him].
It's one more area for him to hate Schlesinger about and to further the tall tale about how penurious Leon was. [We have to ask ourselves "Ifffffff Schlesinger was so tight then how come so many people stayed for years during animation's heyday??" ;) ]
The Warner toons (like the MGM) varied in length though. Some stories could be told in 6 minutes flat, while others needed more time. A few needed less time, or even no time at all ;) :)
J Lee
10-24-2002, 11:27 PM
Really, the six-minute thing didn't come into play until after Warners started cutting the Technicolor print costs on the cartoons after pay scales went up around 1948. If you time out the cartoons (excluding the CN time-compressed ones, of course), you'll find a much more uniform time length in the post-48 cartoons than in the pre-48s, and they do come in at right around six minutes of animation time.
Cartoon lengths in the pre-48s vary widely, though no one at Warners went nuts like Hugh Harman over at MGM and devoted 11-plus minutes to a shunned skunk (of course, if he had stuck in a Sinatra impersionation -- or at least a Crosby -- like Avery did in Metro's other shunned skunk-themed cartoon, he might have been able to justify that extra print cost to Mr. Mayer's people...)
absolutpaul
10-25-2002, 12:39 AM
It is true that the post-48s are generally shorter, but that still doesn't match with Jones' story about Leon and "the exhibitor" butting head-to head over the 'six-minute' mark.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 4.1.10 Copyright © 2012 vBulletin Solutions, Inc. All rights reserved.