JLU "The Return" Talkback, Part II (Spoilers)

[Bird Boy]

The final episode of JLU until later this year airs tonight...


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Episode #7 - The Return
Original Airdate - September 18th, 2004

Nearly two-dozen heroes join forces to prevent an all-powerful android from reaching his goal: the recently reformed Lex Luthor.

Comments?

Note: This is part two of the talkback. Part one can be found here (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=122025).

[Style]

geuss it's time for a part 2 to the thread...

[Doomsday]

A cool thing I noticed in the episode (sorry if it's been mentioned before, but this thread IS 500 posts long):

When J'onn and Fate are having their little "It's the only way" chat, the screens in the background are old JL backgrounds. You can see Washington from "Starcrossed" and the canyons where Hawkgirl was crying in "Hereafter."

EDIT: Ok, I admit it. I was saving this post so I could get to have the 500th post on this thread.

Yeah I notice that a couple episodes back. This isn't the first time those backgrounds were on the screens. I can't remember the first episode this season that showed those backgrounds, maybe Initiation or Hawk and Dove was it. Or maybe it was this episode but because I seen this episode so many times I thought it was in previous episode as well. Anyways thats really cool. Not sure why the league will be looking at Hawkgirl's crying spot but still very cool.

[Style]

Maybe they're keeping an eye out for her. Or it was a super-special clue to set up the ending.
Yeah, and it's her very most special crying spot because

It's where little baby Warhawk was concieved.

Least that's what I heard...

[Doomsday]

There is no baby Warhawk. Warhawk is definitely Hawk.

Wait a minute I thought Warhawk is Batman and Wonderwomen's child. Thats why Warhawk hates future Bat and was saying "Your not my real father" to BB and runs off to the special Hawk crying spot in the mountains. O they cut that scene out of The Call. Just think about it, Warhawk doesn't trust anyone like Batman. It just make sense.

[Fone Bone]

Actually I hope they don't close this thread. Everyone will just have to retype their reviews. They should just keep this open no matter how long it gets.

[Obsidian Age]

There is no baby Warhawk. Warhawk is definitely Hawk.Actually, he can't be Hawk. For 2 reasons.

1. Wheres Dove? Can't have Hawk without Dove.

2. Symbol on his chest is the exact symbol on Justice Lord Hawkgirl's costume.

Which means there are only 3 explanations.

1. He is the son of Hawkgirl.
2. He is a mutant of some kind like Galatea and the Royal Flush Gang
3. He came from Thanagar, banished or just curious. But that can be shot down since his wings aren't real.

But we'll have to wait until The Once and Future Thing airs.

[Sue]

See Wayman, there's a way your man could have played a part :D
Excellent points SueThanks :)

[Fone Bone]

A very good episode. I loved Hawkgirl's appearance at the end. Dr. Fate was cool too, and I like that he's got his own bunch of ragtag heroes now.

Luthor and Amazo's existensial talk was VERY cool. Amazo just ripping through the JLU was awesome. The dude is so powerful he makes a whole planet reappear as an AFTERTHOUGHT! Whoa!

Yay! Will Friedle was Kyle Rayner! I like the Green Lantern Corp redesign.

I LOVED the Atom. Shrinking characters are neat and he had a great voice. (Scrubs John C. McGinnley)

All those heroes were SWEET. I was scared when Supergirl fell into the water. Bummer they never resolved that. And Red Tornado got ripped in half! Aww. I hope they rebuild him.

I missed Micheal Dorn as Steel but Phil Lamarr did a fine job. I liked his barb about no-one looking for Luthor in a barber-shop. I found a plot-hole though: John Henry Irons is bald too, so who is he to poke fun?

A great episode: *****.

Where's the poll option?

[Bird Boy]

Uh...guys. You don't have to re-post your reviews. In fact, I'd appreciate it if you didn't. This is just a continuation of the old thread so it's easier for us to moderate and for users to get through. Gumming it up with repeated reviews is just gonna make it pile up faster.

As for the poll...everyones just going to be re-voting again, so adding another poll would just make it duplicate the old thread. If enough people request it, I'll add one--but anyone who wanted to vote probably already did in the old thread.

-BB

[Fone Bone]

Uh...guys. You don't have to re-post your reviews. In fact, I'd appreciate it if you didn't. This is just a continuation of the old thread so it's easier for us to moderate and for users to get through. Gumming it up with repeated reviews is just gonna make it pile up faster.

As for the poll...everyones just going to be re-voting again, so adding another poll would just make it duplicate the old thread. If enough people request it, I'll add one--but anyone who wanted to vote probably already did in the old thread.

-BBGeez, whatta grouch.:D

I would like a new poll because I voted **** last time and I want to change it to *****.

Plus I added some new stuff to my post. Well, one new thing: Steel shouldn't be ragging on Luthor for being bald when he's not exactly the President of Hair Club For Men.

[Yarharhar]

Steel does in fact sport a full head of clear hair. A result of an experiment sponsored by lex luthor for hair growth, gone horribly wrong.

[RAINMAN]

So out of this and TGSNT, which one had the most heroes and better line up?

[Style]

Hey,

You know, I was thinking the other day about ways you could beat amazo. In fact, I came up with two, and posted them in another thread, but it died as soon as I posted, so let's see what you guys think.



1. Use Lex Luthor's power-neutralizer ray from "A Better World." Come on, someone come up with a scenario where this wouldn't make sense. Amazo is a conceit, in that he can copy powers even though it should be impossible, so we can beat him with a Deus ex Machina device, which can magically neutralize the League's powers even though it should be impossible. If the ray can beat the League, and Amazo's powers are based on the Leagues, then the ray can beat Amazo.

2. Throw the Black Mercy on Amazo, so he can be trapped in a fantasy where Dr. Ivo is alive and well and Amazo's existence has meaning. If it could trap Superman, it could trap amazo.

[Yojimbo]

So out of this and TGSNT, which one had the most heroes and better line up?
TGSNT had 25 JLU members and the Return had 18, but 13 GL Corps guests. In my opinion, TGSNT had a better line up. They had 4 of the original members at the front and more super powered members like Fire, Ice, Dr. Light, Aztek, Vibe, Supergirl, Thunderbolt, Blue Devil and Atom Smasher. The Return had less like Fire, Captain Atom, Starman, Supergirl, Fire and Ice, and Dr. Light but they had three fronts so in a way they neutralized themselves. Mordru is just as powerful as AMAZO in terms of his magic but they fact is they had one main front where they constantly attacked and eventually knocked him out. I was surprised there were less JLU cameos on the Return.

That power neutralizer would work but we since the JL had it, wouldn't it have been destroyed when bats flew it into the hyperspace generator? It's not like Luthor would go out of his way to build a new one. He planned his bunker weapon under the circumstances that AMAZO was still an android because back in "Tabula Rasa", he scoffed at J'onn's answer to AMAZO's evolution so in his mind AMAZO was just an android until the end of "the return".

[Style]

That power neutralizer would work but we since the JL had it, wouldn't it have been destroyed when bats flew it into the hyperspace generator? It's not like Luthor would go out of his way to build a new one. He planned his bunker weapon under the circumstances that AMAZO was still an android because back in "Tabula Rasa", he scoffed at J'onn's answer to AMAZO's evolution so in his mind AMAZO was just an android until the end of "the return".
Well, Luthor said "Superman has it" so I assumed it was probably at the fortress of solitude, not the Watchtower. The only legitimate reason for not using it is that it would ruin story telling on the Justice League.

"For the Man who has everything"
Mongul: I will rule the worl-

*ZAP*

Mongul: oh, never mind.

"Kid's Stuff"

Mordred: I will never see anyone older than me ever-

*ZAP!*

Mordred: Ah, poop.

"Hawk and Dove"

Aries: Wherever there is greed and Hatred, I will be-!

*ZAP!*

Aries: Awe, Dammit!

"This Little Piggy"

*ZAP!*

Zattanna: Great Batman, now that you've neutralized Circe who's gonna to restore Diana?

Batman:...I'm gonna go beat up B'wanna Beast.

"Fearful Symmetry"

*ZAP!"

Supergirl: Hey, you hit me! you're supposed to hit galatea!

Green Arrow: Sorry.

*ZAP!*
Question: Now you hit ME! I can't put two and two together anymore! I thought you were supposed to be a master marksman.

Green Arrow: I'm not used to guns, any way I could adapt this thing into a power arrow?

"The Greatest Story Never Told"

J'onn: Great job team! we just finished off Mordu in 3 seconds flat!

Booster Gold: But what about this black hole guy?

Batman: You're on crowd control, you deal with it. I'm going out for my favorite meal now.

Wonderwoman: Enchiladas?

Batman:...No.

"The Return"

*ZAP!*

Green Arrow: Sorry.

*ZAP!*

Green Arrow: Sorry!

*ZAP!*

Green Arrow: Uh, we can reverse this later, I think.

Superman: You're hitting everyone BUT Amazo!

Amazo: A power neutralizer... Fascinating approach... And it may have worked a month ago... When I was still Nano-tech. I've transcended that now.

Green Lantern: What are ya made of now?

Amazo: ...cookie cream filling.

[Krypton710]

Amazo: A power neutralizer... Fascinating approach... And it may have worked a month ago... When I was still Nano-tech. I've transcended that now.

Green Lantern: What are ya made of now?

Amazo: ...cookie cream filling.
Mmm...super powerful robot...

(P.S. That was pretty darn funny BTW)

[FunTurtle]

I just had a crazy idea.
You said the League could've used the power nullifier thingy to destroy AMAZO, but it would be destroyed because the old watchtower went boom.
Well if the old Watchtower went boom...wouldn't the blueprints of AMAZO also be destroyed?
This can, of course, always be defended by (The batcave computer had a copy)...but still. It would've been. ... ...destroyed, that is.

[Yojimbo]

True, but like how stly92 showed, that device could be a deus ex machina and solve every episode's problem. I think the only reason they had it in "a better world" was to continue Luthor's continual character transformations and put him in a role where he can shift from criminal to rehabilitated in this epsiode. The neutralizer could be in the fortress, I'll give anyone props if they can spot it in "for the man who has everything" to confirm this idea. Batman probably had a backup in the batcave and when the new watch towers went up he transferred the intel to their database.

[Knight]

The power neutrulizer is pretty much the ultimate weapon and should have been used against Amazo if they still had it. As a matter of fact it is the end all against any villain I would say. Its better than Kryptonite.

And If it was in The Fortress and WW didnt use it against Mongul she is stupid. It would have ended that fight real quick.

[Temple Fugate]

The power neutrulizer is pretty much the ultimate weapon and should have been used against Amazo if they still had it. As a matter of fact it is the end all against any villain I would say. Its better than Kryptonite.

And If it was in The Fortress and WW didnt use it against Mongul she is stupid. It would have ended that fight real quick.
Not unless Mongul had inherent strength instead of super strength. Think of it this way; If you zapped a world heavyweight champion, would he lose all his muscles? It's possible Mongul trained night and day and became that strong on his own to beat Superman...as impossible as that may seem.

[Knight]

Not unless Mongul had inherent strength instead of super strength. Think of it this way; If you zapped a world heavyweight champion, would he lose all his muscles? It's possible Mongul trained night and day and became that strong on his own to beat Superman...as impossible as that may seem.
That's a interesting theory. Would the neutralizer have taken the pump out of his muscles? Mongul's powers as far as I know are natural and not enhancements like Superman's whose abilities come from the sun.

Im going to say it would have worked on Mogul based on what happened to Hawkgirl in A Better World. After all it took away Hawkgirls natural ability to fly and that ability relates to the strength of her wings. That is something the neutralizer shouldn't have been able to take away but it did.

[Temple Fugate]

That's a good point. I guess science and logic should just get thrown out the window on this topic. :sweat:

[Style]

That's a good point. I guess science and logic should just get thrown out the window on this topic. :sweat:
That was my original point: the power neutralizer is a Deus Ex Machina, it shouldn't be able to exist. (Just as Amazo is a conceit because he shouldn't be able to copy everyone's powers.) In order for the Power Neutralizer to work, it would have to do the following:

Superman: It would have to diffuse all the yellow-sun radiation in his body, and here's the kicker, prevent him from ever being able to absorb yellow sun radiation ever again.

Wonderwoman: I believe most of her powers she had at birth, such as streangth and speed, so it would have to reduce her capabilities down to a human level, I suppose by affecting her muscles. It would also somehow have to cancel out the magic in her costume and lasso. Finally, to keep her from deflecting projectiles it would have to affect her hand-eye coordination and "muscle memory" to keep her from reacting so fast.

Green Lantern: It would somehow have to short-circuit his ring, so that it loses all it's built up Green Lantern battery energy and prevent it from being recharged. Although, in this case, I suppose his powers could be restored if he got another power ring.

Hawkgirl: I don't know much about her aside from what's talked about in the series, but if she uses her wings to fly the way a bird does, then it would have to alter the structure of those wings to keep her from becoming airborn and alter her bones to make her too heavy to fly anyway.

J'onn J'onze: Since his powers are in-born, it would have to alter his DNA structure and structure of his internal organs so that he would have no more capabilities than an ordinary human.

So, this beem can do whatever is neccessary to reduce a super-powered individual down to a normal human. It's an illogical device.

(Thought I should just also mention,that in Super Friends Lex Luthor also had a power neutralizer ray, that was just as illogical. When he shot Batman and Robin with it, it actually jammed their utilitie belts so they couldn't access their gear! luckily, that one had a revearse switch.)

[RAINMAN]

Lutor made the gun to drain the power of the original 7. I not sure it would work on the other league unless they power that are the same of the original 7. I also don`t see ti working on amazo. If a giant gun did not stop him, I don`tsee a very small one having a good chance.

[Knight]

Lutor made the gun to drain the power of the original 7. I not sure it would work on the other league unless they power that are the same of the original 7. I also don`t see ti working on amazo. If a giant gun did not stop him, I don`tsee a very small one having a good chance.Its not the size of the gun its what the gun can do. The one in The Return was supposed to reprogram him not neutralize his powers like the weapon he had in A Better World.

[SirLemming]

Sorry about the late reply, but I guess it happens pretty frequently around here. Just got around to watching my Cartoon Network tapes on Fall Break...

This was a really good episode. It was a very simple plot, but it was executed very well. Basically it was "robot guy comes to destroy the world". But he was probably one of the best JL "original" (in terms of the animated universe) villains so far. Very menacing, but not like all the other "Bwa ha ha I will destroy the universe!" generic types. Half the episode was just him destroying stuff, but it all looked really REALLY good.

And the climax was a little anticlimactic. But then again, they've set up this virtually indestructible villain, and really, the "talk him out of it" thing was the only way to go. And that had the added side effect of some good dialogue and character interaction. While this seemed like a bit of a cop-out, most likely any other ending would have been much worse of a cop-out, taking the form of "Well, nothing is powerful enough to stop him... oh, except this for some reason!"

[Kylewayne]

I fianlly saw JLU last night on YTV! I must say I really enjoyed this episode a lot. I definetly loved the ending when the androide became good and had to fullfill it's own purpose in life. Hawgirl! I was so happy to see Hawgirl at Mr. Fate's place! Is it me or is Greeen Lantern become more serious in JLU and more bitter? He is staring to get on my nerves a bit.

Anywho! I have to give this ep 4 stars! =D

[DisneyBoy]

What to say about this one?

It started off going at full speed and slowed to a crawl. The pre-intro bit and first act were thrilling, the second act slightly less, and the third act a disappointment. I think this story worked better on paper than it did in execution (much like Hawk and Dove). Amazo's desire to figure out his ultimate purpose by chatting with Lex was believeable (seeing as how Lex briefly became his surrogate father), but after spending fifteen minutes convincing us that he was going to blow the whole world up, I felt cheated when he didn't. I could have loved this episode, but the animation kind of killed it for me. The storyboarding was wonderful, but if this one had gotten the same treatment as "FTMWHE" and "TLP" in terms of character animation, it would have definately been more convincing. Instead, the characters and movements seemed as stiff as they were in "FS". I'm not crying though. I'm sure the best animators will return to thrill me come season's end.

I really think this episode was hyped-up a tad bit too much. I already knew about the Hawkgirl and Kyle Raynor surprises going into it, which didn't help matters. Not a bad episode, but it deflated, despite how well all the characters were treated.

One question though: In the opening scenes, as Amazo approaches Oa, Kyle can clearly be seen to be wearing a black band around his left arm. Was this an mistake in the animation? Was the black band only supposed to appear after Oa was destroyed? Or was it intended to appear before hand, to signify that Kyle had recently lost someone close to him? A big thanks to whomever clears that one up for me...especially since these talkback threads are usually dead by the time YTV airs the episode, and I get the chance to add my two cents in.

A quick little addition:

In the barbershop, right before Luthor zips off, check out Supergirl's "S" logo. It's backwards. :p Couldn't the animator draw her facing to the right?

[RAINMAN]

Is it me or is Greeen Lantern become more serious in JLU and more bitter? He is staring to get on my nerves a bit.


I notice it too and nor do I like it either. Even in JL he had a bit of a sense of humor now it gone all of sudden. But he anit the only char from JL who char has change for the worst.:sad:

[Duke]

Actually, he can't be Hawk. For 2 reasons.

1. Wheres Dove? Can't have Hawk without Dove.

2. Symbol on his chest is the exact symbol on Justice Lord Hawkgirl's costume.

Which means there are only 3 explanations.

1. He is the son of Hawkgirl.
2. He is a mutant of some kind like Galatea and the Royal Flush Gang
3. He came from Thanagar, banished or just curious. But that can be shot down since his wings aren't real.

But we'll have to wait until The Once and Future Thing airs.4. He is merely a BIG fan of Hawkgirl and then tried to mimic her/idolize her by becoming a superhero.


I notice it too and nor do I like it either. Even in JL he had a bit of a sense of humor now it gone all of sudden. But he anit the only char from JL who char has change for the worst.:sad:
It's because of Starcrossed. Kinda the after-effects of the whole thing.

I still don't get why Supes' new suit doesn't cover his eyes. It seems really stupid.

[Beat]

So all this time, the only thing Luthor's wanted is to leave a mark on history.

And Hawkgirl lives, eh?

[Duke]

And Hawkgirl lives, eh?
She...died? :confused:

[Beat]

She...died? :confused:
Hypothetically. Never thought we'd actually see her again.

The hunt for a mark in history is an odd one when you think about it. Only a handful of people are remembered for a while after they die. Most of us, it's a lot shorter. Luthor, in this case, is the ultimate form of vanity.

[Stu]

The power neutrulizer is pretty much the ultimate weapon and should have been used against Amazo if they still had it. As a matter of fact it is the end all against any villain I would say. Its better than Kryptonite.

And If it was in The Fortress and WW didnt use it against Mongul she is stupid. It would have ended that fight real quick.

What's the point of a cartoon where the characters have a device which wins thier every battle for them, no matter what?

A little logic, i.e, this is a TV show which is designed to entertain, and you have your anwser.

[Harlan_Phoenix]

Hypothetically. Never thought we'd actually see her again.

The hunt for a mark in history is an odd one when you think about it. Only a handful of people are remembered for a while after they die. Most of us, it's a lot shorter. Luthor, in this case, is the ultimate form of vanity.
That's my life goal actually...

>.>
<.<

no really. But I've always wanted to do it differently.

[Beat]

Luthor's speech made me think a bit.

Think about it for a second. When we die, how much are we going to be remembered for? 50 years from now, will the time we've spent here mean anything? Will the games we've played, comics we've read, date's we've been on, even register as a blip on the radar of history?

Geez, I sound like an episode of Wolf's Rain.:rolleyes:

[Karkull]

Actually, Luthor's speech got me thinking as well, but in a different fashion. I'm starting to think that it was foreshadowing something coming up. Something big.

As the Question would say, "Need some time to process this."

[DLM]

The power neutrulizer is pretty much the ultimate weapon and should have been used against Amazo if they still had it. As a matter of fact it is the end all against any villain I would say. Its better than Kryptonite.

And If it was in The Fortress and WW didnt use it against Mongul she is stupid. It would have ended that fight real quick. Actually thats easy enough to explain away if you try. No doubt alot of stuff was smashed up in the melee, and the power neutralizer was mushed before WW got a chance to use it. And while Im in aplologist mode, maybe we can get around the whole "power neutralizer illogic problem" this way: The thing doesn't so much take powers away as it affirmativly reduces every person to human. A sort of instant gene splicer. Ok, I know, its a stretch but it does work in it own way. Maybe we'd have seen AU Hawkgirl's wings slowly atrophy and shrivel away if we got the long term view. Wait, that doesn't deal with GL's power ring. Oh well.

[Arcturus]

I hope with the return of Hawkgirl we'll see Jon Stewart head out to the rest of the corps and Kyle Rayner take over for him. Kyle is a fantastic GL who really hasn't been explored much on JLU. Plus the guys an artist, he'll have better constructs than Jon "Pipe, Axe, Board" Stewart.

That said, I'd pay a mighty sum to see the Parallax/Power of Ion stories to get told in animated form.

[dawnyoshi]

this is probably my 2nd favorite episode of the season, first being the return of Mongul.

a lot of heroes, and Luthor is probably one of my favorite villains. I dunno why, but I like heroes/villains without any special all mighty powers that they aquired from birth/accident.

and his speech was great too. Just sounded really cool.

[Fone Bone]

Actually, Luthor's speech got me thinking as well, but in a different fashion. I'm starting to think that it was foreshadowing something coming up. Something big.

As the Question would say, "Need some time to process this."Now that you've had a couple of days, care to elaborate? The great thing about this show is it can go in all sorts of crazy directions and you just don't know what the big underlying theme is. That is pretty cool.

By the way, this new talkback needs a new poll in the worst way.

[Knight]

What's the point of a cartoon where the characters have a device which wins thier every battle for them, no matter what?
I was speaking from within the realms of the toon not from the outside. Of course it makes for a more interesting show for them not to have the neutralizer. But in their world "if" they still had it the time for them to use it would have most certainly been against a guy that is so powerful you "thought" he just took out a planet.


A little logic, i.e, this is a TV show which is designed to entertain, and you have your anwser.
Thanks but I already knew that.

[awh1978]

I was speaking from within the realms of the toon not from the outside. Of course it makes for a more interesting show for them not to have the neutralizer. But in their world "if" they still had it the time for them to use it would have most certainly been against a guy that is so powerful you "thought" he just took out a planet.
Being the fine upstanding citizens that they are they probably destroyed it: otherwise they would have gone around zapping every super-powered villain they could find. They probably felt it made them too powerful, since it can wipe out natural abilities, divine gifts, and advanced technology.

The real issue is that the episode implied that Luthor can easily build one, he just needed Superman's help because of the time crunch. He should have had one waiting to use against AMAZO instead of his giant gun. I wonder how the League would have reacted to that.

[Kesh]

Ya know, I've never had the chance to watch since JL became JLU.

... god, I'm so lost. :ack:

[The Penguin]

By the way, this new talkback needs a new poll in the worst way.You asked already and BB already explained (http://forums.toonzone.net/showpost.php?p=1458152&postcount=14). It's not going to affect anything if your vote would have changed by a star. Your vote is always your first, immediate impression. Just go with it.

[Fone Bone]

You asked already and BB already explained (http://forums.toonzone.net/showpost.php?p=1458152&postcount=14). It's not going to affect anything if your vote would have changed by a star. Your vote is always your first, immediate impression. Just go with it.Yeah, but now newbies can't vote because the other talkback is closed. T'ain't fair I tells ya!

[bat313]

Yeah, but now newbies can't vote because the other talkback is closed. T'ain't fair I tells ya!

I second that, i never got to vote the first time! :)

[RAINMAN]

Starcrossed[/i]. Kinda the after-effects of the whole thing.

I still don't get why Supes' new suit doesn't cover his eyes. It seems really stupid.


That would explain his change of mood but I still like his mild humor. I don`t want everyone to start acting like batman.

[I-Am That Is]

Hey, I just thought of something.

Why in God's name was Rocket Red shooting AMAZO w/ BULLETS? I mean, he was bulletproff to begin w/!

[RAINMAN]

Maybe hopeing one them would be a mircal bullet and blow amazo up.

[Knight]

Hey, I just thought of something.

Why in God's name was Rocket Red shooting AMAZO w/ BULLETS? I mean, he was bulletproff to begin w/!He was probably hopeing to slow Amazo down of course it didnt work though.

[RAINMAN]

I wonder how amazo would fair againts toonami?:cool:

[maxnugget]

I was just watching this again (LOVE the music in this ep) and I noticed an animation error. When John Stewart gives his "not even you can stand against the Green Lanter Corps" speech, he lights up his ring twice. First he lights it up in the close-up shot, then when they go to the group shot to show everyone lighting their rings, he AGAIN lights his ring instead of it already being lit via the previous shot.

And something tells me they could/would have added the GL lighting effect in post-production, which perhaps means someone at the Timm Factory didn't notice it. :anime: (waves finger)

[Crow]

Yeah I thought this was pretty good.

Can I still vote in the poll? I'd give this 4 stars.

What is the first line of the show? I missed the Guardian speaking. What exactly is John's personal issue he knows about? I think I got it.

Something tells me this episode comes after Dark Heart as well. Does it?

How did Superman manage to let his eyes be exposed to space so his laser vision could work?

Clancy Brown is a class act.

[Knight]

How did Superman manage to let his eyes be exposed to space so his laser vision could work?


He had a suit made that didnt cover them from the looks of it allowing him to use more of his heat vision. It isnt like he needs to have them covered anyway. The vaccum of space cant harm him he only needs to breath and communicate.

[James Harvey]

Featured on the Blu-ray release of Green Lantern: First Flight (DVD/Blu-ray Talkback (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=233195), Feature Talkback (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=233194), Review (http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF/dcuam/greenlantern/reviews/)), discuss this episode featuring Green Lantern!


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Episode #7 - The Return
Original Airdate - September 18th, 2004

Nearly two-dozen heroes join forces to prevent an all-powerful android from reaching his goal: the recently reformed Lex Luthor.

Comments?

[Bobbywoodhogan]

One of the most EPIC episodes of JLU, just a superb episode from start to finish. I have to say my favourite things about this whole episode were seeing Kyle Rayner again and the Atom. A great episode and the action was crazy 4.5 out of 5