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Knight
09-29-2004, 10:11 AM
There was clearly only 6 members of the team(Superman, Barda, GL, Aquagirl , Warhawk and Micron). So what made the team call itself The JLU?

Karkull
09-29-2004, 10:21 AM
Those are only the members that appeared in that episode. For all we know there are dozens more that weren't there or namedropped -- maybe that's what happened to Wonder Woman.

A.J
09-29-2004, 10:41 AM
I agree with Karkull...we only got to see those members, but there must be other ones around somewhere...i mean, they are called the Justice League Unlimited right? i dont think the League is...well...Limited!

Knight
09-29-2004, 11:00 AM
Those are only the members that appeared in that episode. For all we know there are dozens more that weren't there or namedropped -- maybe that's what happened to Wonder Woman.I never got that "dozens" vibe from the episode just like I never get that "dozens" vibe from the original Justice League series because there wasn't a ton of characters only seven. The JLU Beyond to me clearly had a set membership in which the entire team responded to emergencies. No one else appeared to be around. They didn't even have a J'onn like dispatcher just a guy on monitor duty. The Watchtower didn't have the technical personal or the traffic the present day version appears to have.


Also why bring in Batman to find the JLU traitor if not everyone on the team is even around?

Simpler Simon
09-29-2004, 11:53 AM
From a continuity perspective, it's because the creative team didn't think they'd eventually do a JLU show where dozens of heroes would show up. The JLU of Batman Beyond was just a way for them to sneak a Justice League into the DCAU.

Story-wise...who knows? Maybe the current JLU series will end on a "Return of the Joker" downer note where almost all the heroes are killed off. Or they realize a large JLU group isn't working and split into several smaller teams (Task Force, Outsiders, etc).

There's also the question of what prompted them to move the Watchtower from space to Metropolis. I'd have thought the new JLU Watchtower would be in Metropolis, but instead it's still in space and even bigger than the last one.

Squall
09-29-2004, 01:44 PM
I remember thinking that they continued to call themselves the JL'U' in honor of their fallen comrades (since many heroes didn't make it through the "crisis" or "near apocolypse of '09"), though I'm sure there were some part-time members not present in that episode.

Side note: Would you consider members like Batman, Green Arrow, Aquaman, and Etrigan part-time members in the present JLU?

Maybe we'll get to see the "crisis" or "near apocolypse of '09" after all now! :eek:

You know, I also thought of the JLU as having 7 members after "The Call" -- I'm including Batman (Terry McGuiness) here. I always thought it was neat how the original JL had 7 members, and the JLU in Batman Beyond's time now had 7 members. A 7-on-7 all-out brawl would still be a sight to see! :p

Style
09-29-2004, 05:56 PM
"The Call" was their little Backdoor Pilot for Justice League. It's purpose was to say to anyone in earshot, "Hey, see how cool a Justice League series would be? Doesn't it get ya thinkin'?" Ofcourse, Kids WB! was all like, "Can they all be teenagers?" "Well, no..." "Pfft. Pass." But Cartoon Network was all like, "you know, you may be on to something there..." and the rest is history.

As for the name, it meant something else back when they invented it. Justice League "Unlimited" didn't mean everyone and his mother was on the team. The idea was is that the present day version of the League was called the JLA, like in the comics. Ofcourse, "A" stands for "America," so the JLU meant that in the future, these guys weren't just focusing on America, but cared about the rest of world and the Universe too. It's only now that they've modified it too mean that Every Superhero on earth was drafted into the thing.

I prefer an earth based Watchtower myself. A floating station too me always seemed faintly absurd. I mean, getting too and from the thing is quite an obstacle in itself, cause you gotta get the Javelin to do it. And then what if there was an emergency and the Station's power gave out? Some of our hero's would be trapped up in space and not be able to help in time of crisis. True, the new station's transporters help with some of these concerns, but I think it's still valid that it's a hurdle to get up and down and then it's not the best idea in times of crisis.

DerekPowers
09-29-2004, 11:08 PM
I remember thinking that they continued to call themselves the JL'U' in honor of their fallen comrades (since many heroes didn't make it through the "crisis" or "near apocolypse of '09"), though I'm sure there were some part-time members not present in that episode.

Side note: Would you consider members like Batman, Green Arrow, Aquaman, and Etrigan part-time members in the present JLU?

Maybe we'll get to see the "crisis" or "near apocolypse of '09" after all now! :eek:



great response. i agree totally. its very possible ANYTHING could have happened between JLU time and bb time. the reason the league goes back to only 7 members could be for any number of reasons, a fall-out between the heros perhaps? maybe JLU time is like a 'golden age' of heros or something, but the world doesnt stay like that.

who knows. all i know is, if the future jlu went back to 7 members (and they kept the name 'unlimited', for whatever reason), then we could actually see why that happened in JLU. they time travel all the time, its basically a totally comic book world, you know. plus, maybe (heres some wishfull thinking), in JLU the 'team' would eventually be broken up, and we can go back to just 7 (not even necessarily the original 7, but thatd be nice).

so, you know what im saying. peace.

Wally West
09-30-2004, 12:30 AM
Well give it time first. At AI some angel chick posted this and she is pretty funny with the thought of JLU

http://www.animationinsider.net/forums/showthread.php?t=11034

The way she cried out about the old Superfriends theme song and that march. Had me busting a gut:p

But she is right=JL:Unlimited is Challege of the Superfriends. In a way.Just way,way cooler

randomguy
09-30-2004, 01:45 AM
It's quite possible that the team got smacked hard by the law of diminishing returns. In other words, inbetween JLU and BB, they realized that bigger isn't always better. Perhaps keeping that many heroes in line was too difficult, perhaps the beauracracy was stifling the team's effectiveness, perhaps there was too much squabbling within the ranks... having a team with several dozen heroes lends itself to some serious problems. Sure, there's strength in numbers, but there are drawbacks, too. Perhaps the Justice League eventually decided it was more effective as a small, streamlined fighting force.

Wally West
09-30-2004, 01:50 AM
*Zips in*

I'd like to know how many years after SC did JLU begin. In their time.

Plus what happened to the league afterwards


*Zips out*

Yojimbo
09-30-2004, 11:23 PM
All possible, in honor of the Near Apocalypse they kept the name, dissension within the ranks led to formations of other teams like JLI and JSA in the comics, or the team was streamlined into small task forces that handled several areas. If we dealt with a multitude of heroes in the Call, it would have been cool. Starro could have brought in McGinnis simply because it tapped Superman's conscious and learned he had a level of respect for Batman and it interpreted that the Batman was just as strong as Superman and decided to bring him in to take over eventually.

RAINMAN
10-01-2004, 01:18 PM
But most of all. Whatever happend to the original members like john,jonzz,flash,HG WW or supergirl? And how can`t nooboy never have notice that superman was acting weird?

Yojimbo
10-01-2004, 04:03 PM
That was always a gripe of mine. If Aquagirl is a telepath, she should have sensed Starro a lot sooner than years later. But then again, she had to touch the creature to have felt its presence in the first place, so you could argue that her abilities aren't that fully developed since she appears to be in her 20's or so. The episode never got technical into how Starro or its species controls others, it seemed like it pretended to be Superman and succeeded all this time, but when Superman was freed he had no memory of what had happened so it could be implied that Starro could access Superman's memories as well as use that as part of the facade and that Superman was asleep all this time in way that the Black Mercy controlled Superman but in a grander way.

Fone Bone
10-01-2004, 09:39 PM
We know Wonder Woman is still around thanks to a line in Future Shock. And Static counts too. So there are probably quite a few heroes in the League The Call didn't focus on.

Toddman
10-02-2004, 12:40 PM
We know Wonder Woman is still around thanks to a line in Future Shock. And Static counts too. So there are probably quite a few heroes in the League The Call didn't focus on.
But remember that in "Future Shock" they never said that Static and WW were members of the League at that time.

Toddman