Harley Quinn #1-38 Talkback (Spoilers)

[Joker85]

So flhero(and any other Harley fans) what did you think of the latest issue? I thought it was a great improvement over last months Last Laugh tie in. I especially enjoyed the scenes with Jimmy Olsen and Lois. I was very surprised though when the woman hung herself!!:eek: That caught me a little off guard. What did everyone else think?

[Trent Lane]

I'll prolly pick it up tomorrow, if not then next week, so I'll voice my opinion then. Glad someone's starting threads for this book...

[Kathy Kane]

Oh yes I read it and it was a great improvement over the last laugh, which seemed to drag on for thru too many DC issues.
Anyway I thought it was a good issue, but who was that lady who hung herself? How long will this charade of Harley's last?
I wonder if the girls are going to do some shopping next issue.

[Trent Lane]

Sorry it took me so long to respond, but I FINALLY got this issue. Not too bad an ish, mostly an intro to Metropolis. It'll be cool if we ever see Supes show up. I'd like to see how Terry draws him...

[Dark Knight]

I loved the superman parody of it all. Harley living in Metropolis working as a mild mannared advice collumist for the Daily Planet by day and causing Mayhem as her alter ego by night. She even wears the glasses as her disguise. That was classic. And call me twisted but I love the dark humor involved with the woman who hanged herself. Seeing her in the background as Harley and Ivy casually talked about what to do next was pretty amusing, and then Ivy's solution of what to do with the body... it's sick but this is a book about villains so you just gotta enjoy that they dont have to be as careful about stuff like death (Dont know if any of you ever read Deadpool but protaganist who aren't restrained by morals can be quite hysterical.) The Thorn thing was cool too.

[Bobby Boy 101]

CHICK FIGHTS!!!!!!!


that was sooo awsome, go harl!!!!!!


but poor Ivy :(

[Joker85]

This is great!! I am really excited to see that there seems to be a growing interest in this book! I encourage all to read it!! :)

[X-human]

Actually, the woman who hung herself gave me a better outlook on this series. For awhile there, I was worried this might actually lose face as a Batman related publication and get way to silly. Harley's pal (who she shot, forgot his name) had also given some more perspective, but it had been a small while since that issue so it was something more to help prove they're still going to be some black humor.

I never thought of the Harley / Clark Kent paralle, I'll have to read the issue again in that new light. Karl Kesser has more than proven himself to me that he was the best writer for this series.

[Trent Lane]

Just echoing joker, it's good to see the intrest in this book going up on the boards. It's one of my favorites every month...

[Stupendous Man]

I just picked up my first issue of Harley .

It was issue 14 ...Harley moving to Metropolis was
a good point for me to jump onto the series and see if
I liked it.

I was totally ready to hate this series.
I just didnt think this character , though ineteresting wouldnt
be strong enough to hold her own series.

I was ready for a lame batman satelite title like Azreal.

I have to admit ... I was pleasantly surprised !
Issue 14 was great.
I should have expected no less from Kessel.

I love that they havent gone down the path of villan makes
good. Weve seen what disaster these type of series become
ie ..venom ..ie green goblin.

The disposing of the body and fighting your local town
vigalante were good indicators of the series tone.

I also love seeing batman & superman supporting casts interacting with each other .

I love the idea of Harley working for the planet.
I hope this is a direction for the series and not just
some 3 issue storyline.

And doesnt Batman own the planet ? interesting.

OK Im hooked ...bring on the next issue.

[Samhaine]

Originally posted by The Spirit
I love the idea of Harley working for the planet.
I hope this is a direction for the series and not just
some 3 issue storyline.

I think it'll be a 12 issue storyline, like the first one. It may actually be less, I'm not really sure. I know that Kessel was planning a road trip story line, so I don't know if this is part of it or if the road trip will come in a year or so.


The Spirt whisperedAnd doesnt Batman own the planet ? interesting.
Bruce owns part of it. He's like their huge investor. Perry still owns it. Lex sold it to him for $1 right around the relaunch of the S books.

[Joker85]

From what I've read, the Metropolis storyline will be like a 6 issue storyline, not a 12, then they will have another storyline to finish out the year. She may wind up back in gotham by issue 25 or 26.

[JL Man]

I always thought it was a chick comic but I think I should maybe check it out now. ;)

[Trent Lane]

Heh, I think joker85 usually does this, but I'll go ahead and post the thread. This issue was okay, not really what I expected for the "Full Coverage" issue, but it works, still more of an introduction to Metropolis. Cool to see Clark in the book, and Bizaro for that matter, it'll be intresting to see how all this plays out....

[Joker85]

Hey flHero, I posted on another thread, the weekly talkback! Check it out there!!

[Trent Lane]

Gotcha, joker.... it'd help if I checked for that kind of stuff :o

[Joker85]

So, all you harley fans out there, what did you think of the latest issue? I thought it was absolutley histerical!! It definitely didn't take itself to seriously, which was ok. the Bizarro cameo had me ROFL. :D I also thought that the animated style worked very well in the parts that it was in( most of the time it bugs me). So, what did everyone else think?

[Trent Lane]

Haven't read it yet, but as for the animated art, I heard it was supposed to convey Harley's twisted POV. I thinkk it makes sense....

[Trent Lane]

Okay, picked mine up today. Gotta say this is a really fun read, and Rousseau's animated style for Harley's descriptions worked really well. I can't see how it'll get any crazier next issue, but I'm looking forward to it!!!

[Joker85]

So, what did all you Harley fans out there think? I loved this issue! It had me LMAO the whole way thru!! :D Bizarro and HArley certainly bring new meaning to "The Odd Couple." I wonder, do you think Thorn will play a role in the next story arc or do you think she will end with Metropolis? Looks like the Man of Steel will play a prominent role in the next issue. Can't wait!

[Trent Lane]

Very funny issue, can't wait to see what goes down between Supes, Harley, Ivy, and Bizarro... and what'll happen to poor old Jimmy as well. I also wondered about the Thorn thing as well, we'll have to see I guess....

[Joker85]

I thought this was an excellent issue! Bizarro just fits so perfectly into Harley's world. Looks like Thorn isn't out of their hair yet either!I thought the cliffhanger was cool, although the idea of a Bizarro Harley Quinn kinda scares me a little bit. Looks like Superman will put a stop to all this next month. Can't wait! What did everyone else think?

[Trent Lane]

Pretty good, just finished reading it. You gotta wonder if all of this is gonna have a lasting affect on Jimmy or not... and a Bizarro Harley is indeed disturbing. Can't wait to see Superman enter the story... just in time for Harley to leave Metropolis. Home again, home again? :D

[Joker85]

I forgot where I read this, but I think that Harley will be somewhere else for issues 20-23 and then wind up back in Gotham around # 25.

[BLACKHEART]

I don't like the idea of a Bizzaro Harley. I don't like Bizzaro that much and a Bizzaro Harley would be annoying. I did enjoy the over all story of 18. I think this is the first time Harley's been in lingere or something skimpy. Usally it's Ivy.

[Trent Lane]

Maybe the first time in this book, but not the first time. See Mad Love by Timm and Dini... very revealing red skimpy outfit there :o :D

[X-human]

Since Bizzaro of Superman is a villian, wouldn't a bizzaro of Harley be a hero? Such questions can bend the mind as to what a bizzaro Harley Quinn could be like.

I've yet to regret picking up an issue of this series, Karl Kesel really knows how to keep this series fresh, funny and smart. I'll toss aside the next Dark Knight Strikes or Fugitive for a Harley Quinn these days.

[Trent Lane]

I've yet to regret picking up an issue of this series, Karl Kesel really knows how to keep this series fresh, funny and smart. I'll toss aside the next Dark Knight Strikes or Fugitive for a Harley Quinn these days.

Very true, this is second mainstream book I picked up (after Batgirl) and these two are qucikly becoming my favorites. You can't hate Harley no matter how bad she is or what she does. She seems to innocent, I guess. I can't wait for her to get back to Gotham, maybe for another run-in with the Joker :D

[Joker85]

Originally posted by X-human
I've yet to regret picking up an issue of this series, Karl Kesel really knows how to keep this series fresh, funny and smart. I'll toss aside the next Dark Knight Strikes or Fugitive for a Harley Quinn these days.
Amen! This series has only gotten better since it started. I would drop every other title in my pull list for I'd give this one up right now. This, and Catwoman are my two favorite mainstream titles. DOn't get me wrong, I like the other stuff, but the Batman titles are slipping in my opinion. THe murderer story line started out good, but they are making Batman a little too crazy in my opinion. Harley, however, has always been crazy and that's why we love her! :D

[Joker85]

Man, this was some issue!! Looks like Ivy is out of the picture for a while. I am glad that Bizarro Harley didn't last long, she was already annoying!! I can't believe Harley got atomized!!! :eek: I wonder were she went?? Alternate dimension, far away galaxy, or off somewhere in time? Well, I guess we'll find out next month. This is definitely an interesting turn of events. Can't wait til next month!!

[Chibi Kageboshi]

i just read it and loved t :) though i wonder where mah poor gal pal is!

[Green-Ghost]

Ivy ´s new costume :eek: WOW :p

Thorn defeate Ivy :mad: :mad:

[BLACKHEART]

That was pure crap.

[Chibi Kageboshi]

That Ivy was defeated?

[Blackjack]

I don't know where Harley went, but I bet her return has something to do with how easily she can manipulate the Furies...

I also wonder how many people thought it was really the end.

Hey now, Harley's officially mainstream--she's been killed off! Seems you can't be a major player in the industry of superhero comix until you have at least one death or supposed death...

[BLACKHEART]

No. It's expected that Poison Ivy would be defeated. She is "evil" and evil always loses. I expected her to lose for months.

The fight was crap.

Poison Ivy had used vines to capture and choke the life out of Thorne in a previous issue. She's used vines to win fights and kill in the past. She's used the plants to tell her where people are. She talks to them.

1 She didn't talk with the plants to get Thorne's location.
2 The plants didn't even warn her that she escaped

Even without 1 and 2

3 She didn't use the plants in the fight.
4 She didn't get a single move of offense

Even the WWF doesn't have 1 sided matches like that.

That was pure crap.

[BLACKHEART]

Alright I remember when this book started it had a big crutch. Something that stunk. Something that didn't belong. Something that sucked. Harley Quinn's gang. So what do they do? They bring Harley's gang back. I'm so thrilled. I missed these characters. I thought I was going to die if I didn't see Lewis or Nix again. Thank you for bringing back two of my favorite characters of all time. Whose next? Aquaman.

The art here is alright. Where as the males and the bodies of the character look good. I love the backgrounds but there is one problem. Can someone find a panel where Harley Quinn doesn't have a retarded looking face? I miss the Dodsons where females looked like females.

The backgrounds looked very nice. I loved the hellish looking Gotham. It was good to see Billy P back. I know all of the Billy P fans will be happy he is back. Unlike Nix and Lewis his character was actually fun reading.

Harley Quinn used to date the Joker? I'm not even going to touch that stupid comment.

So now Harley Quinn is going to take over Hell? Please someone kill this book while the killing is good.

[Kathy Kane]

She's not taking over Hell she's escaping Hell.
Did you get the Wayne's murder reference?
I wonder who else she'll run into while in Hell.
Another thing is I wish that she was in the Vertigo version of Hell, now that would be interesting.

This issue---->not bad.

[Joker85]

I actually enjoyed this issue. Aside from the new art it wasn't that bad(please get rid of this new guy!!). The idea of Harley and her old gang bustin out of hell is a cool concept. I was happy to see Nix, Lewis, and Margo back. And Wilder's brief cameo was cool too. Etrigan's appearance was surprising, but a welcome one. It was funny to me that more Gotham cops were in hell than crooks. hee hee :p Like I said, I really did enjoy this issue and but I want them to get rid of the artist. He ssux.

[BLACKHEART]

I just had a lot of problems with this book. I couldn't wait for you to post the talkback this time. ;)

The art would be fine if it wasn't following the great Terry Dodson. The art wouldn't be too bad if Harley didn't look like a happy retard in almost every picture. Look at those facial expressions. I can't take it. I think ths guy is only doing 3 issues. The Hell saga or whatever they are calling it.

Another problem I had was this story has been done before. One case in point the tv show first wave. The guys were doomed to keep repeating the same thing with the same outcome... Their death. This story has just been done into the ground.

We'll see if part 2 can do anything to spark my interest.

What was the Wayne murder reference?

[Joker85]

I didn't catch the Wayne Murder reference either. Though it has been done before, Harley hasn't done it and I didn't watch First Wave so I enjoyed it. I do agree that they followed such a great artist with such a lousy one. Maybe it'll grow on me.

P.S. to Slipknot- I guess I'll let ya get away with starting the talkback thread this time! :p ;)

[Chibi Kageboshi]

i think harley needs to look a bit more like the animated one... this one looks butch

[Kathy Kane]

The Wayne referance is the murder of Bruce's parents is in Hell, and he says something like" I didn't kill that doctor and his wife! I'm innocent!" Then one of the interigators says "Might as well give it up Chill, tell us what we want to hear."
Page 18, read it again.

[X-human]

Originally posted by Kathy Kane
The Wayne referance is the murder of Bruce's parents is in Hell, and he says something like" I didn't kill that doctor and his wife! I'm innocent!" Then one of the interigators says "Might as well give it up Chill, tell us what we want to hear."
Page 18, read it again.

Oh, that's what it was? I read it a second time after I first read it, and I couldn't make a connection. I see now though.

It was a good issue, at least the gang's doing something different now. Before there were a couple of issues where it seemed like they were doing the same things over and over again (maybe this issue in Hell was a nod from Karl Kesel that he reliezed that to?). So many superheros have done so many great deads to get out of Heaven, it's nice to see a villian get down and dirty to break out of Hell for once.

I didn't really notice the art being too different. I thought the males had a little bit extra muscle, but that's about it.

It'd be interesting to look up that old Joker gf they mentioned.

[BLACKHEART]

When you said murder I thought you were talking about the current storyline.

Don't worry Joker I won't make a habbit of posting about Harley Quinn. ;) I couldn't take how bad this book was this month. The art went downhill and I just kept looking and looking at her retarded face till I screamed!!!!!!

Butch? I can see that. I also see happy-retard.

[Blackjack]

Well, I can't wait to see how she's gonna get out of this one! I mean, she can outwit the Goddesses of Apokolyps, so...

I thought it was strange that she's being blamed for the deaths of Margo and Nix, though, both two clear-cut cases of self-defense. I mean, really now, in both those cases, she was defending her own life!

Lewis...I honestly don't think she knew about. I mean, when we saw from her point of view, she didn't see any blood, she just saw him sitting there. We know, as readers, that she did indeed kill him *accident though it was*, but I don't think she knew...

[BLACKHEART]

Like I've been doing with other talkback threads that I've started here is a little preview. I'll let someone start out with their thoughts on the book.

Harley’s trapped in the ultimate prison by a demonic fellow whose name begins with the letter "E." She enlists the help of some familiar (if unexpected) faces in a massive attempt to regain her freedom! Harley’s got a gaggle of unusual super-humans on her side, but it ain’t easy to come back from…well, wherever — especially with a bounty hunter gunning for your head!

[Trent Lane]

This book is in a weird stage, so I'm glad they're close to getting out... I think and hope. The art pales in comparison to Dobson, but it's okay. I'm looking forward to the next few issues when Harley will hoefully be out of Hell...

[BLACKHEART]

The book doesn't have the same feel to it without the Dodsons on the book. I am going to have to think about dropping this title in the next few issues. I'm going to let them get out of hell and then see the direction the book takes.

I couldn't get into this issue at all. The art of the males isn't bad, but Harley Quinn looks retarded still. Look at the cover art then look inside. It just isn't the same.

This story is just something I want to get thru and move on. Hopefully once she is among the living the book takes a better direction. I also hope the sidekicks stay in Hell. I don't like them. I didn't like them before and I don't like them now.

[Blackjack]

I do hope she can get a message to Lewis' family from him, you know?

I rather like this arc, even if this issue was weak...(what was with the western theme? And Lewis put his hand in the water--shouldn't his arm fall off?)

It's just like Harley to figure out how all those supervillians rise from the dead all the time--but now we're seeing it first-hand!

[Joker85]

I'm with the majority on this one, I just couldn't get into it. THe new artist sux and the whole "in hell" plotline needs to wrap up FAST! I have high hopes for the next few issues which will feature the Martian Manhunter(starting n August I believe)

[BLACKHEART]

I can only imagine how Harley will get into a story with the Manhunter. Well we have one more issue to endure. I am not expecting anything out of the new issue. If she brings anyone back with her then I will be tempted to quit buying the book. Let the sidekicks die.

[BLACKHEART]

It’s the final chapter of Harley’s trip to that big, bad place way, way below the surface! Harley’s determined to escape her supernatural prison, but to do that, she’s going to have to get past Highwater — the official doorman of the great beyond. But where brute force fails, perhaps the key to the prison lies in the key to the heart. Sound mushy? It ain’t!

http://www.dccomics.com/directcurrents/comics/July_10/covers/hquin_22.jpg

[Joker85]

I won't be able to get this one until next week, I hope it's better than last issue though. I'm interested into what you think Slipknot, we usually agree on the issues.

[Trent Lane]

I too won't get this one till next week, tho I am glad this story is coming to a close...

[Green-Ghost]

Can you say me if Poison Ivy is in???

[BLACKHEART]

I’m not going to give out too much here at first. I’ll say the following. The book started out horrible. They did a parody of the “Beverly Hillbillies” theme. I found it highly annoying. I felt the middle of the book was the best. It was in my opinion the best part of the entire arc. I am by no means saying it was a good story. To me it just showed improvement. I did find the character dialect dumb. It basically made no sense.

Then we come to the end. Finally the Harley Quinn goes to Hell storyline is over. Wait till you read the finish of the book. This had to be the worse ending ever. I wish they could have done a little something more creative.

I felt the ending made the story that much more of a waste. It was a cop-out. It was kind of like one of those “It was all a dream endings.” I quickly closed the book finishing it and quickly put it in a bag and threw it out of my sight.

The only thing I’m going to give away is the gang is dead and good riddance.

Again the art was horrible. Harley looks like a butch. Don't let the beautiful cover fool you.

Green Ghost no Ivy. I don't expect Ivy in the book anytime soon.

[BLACKHEART]

As you know issue 26 will mark a new era for Harley Quinn. For all the news on issue 26 and the new creative team it brings click my link

http://www.comicon.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=13&t=001219

[Green-Ghost]

@SLIPKNOT:
Do you don´t think that she will apear in this issue:
HARLEY QUINN #23

Harley’s missing in action following her fatally bizarre adventure “down under.” Now, we find out what it’s like to live in a “World Without Harley.” So whom do we focus on instead? Why, Martian Manhunter, naturally! Seems J’onn J’onzz has picked up a new client in his guise as a private detective. But not everything is as it seems. So what’s all this got to do with our Miss Quinzel? You won’t believe the answer!

Can´t it be that Ivy is the client who give J´onn the mission to search Harley???

[BLACKHEART]

No I don't think it's Ivy. Ivy's in jail. I think the new writers are moving away from anything that was in the last 25 issues so they won't be using Ivy anytime soon. I think at most if someone is looking for Harley it's the guy from the current book.

I could be wrong but I don't think Ivy will be back anytime soon. She has something brewing in the real mainstream titles.

[Green-Ghost]

I could be wrong but I don't think Ivy will be back anytime soon

Than I am lucky that I have dissolve my Harley Quinn subscription :D


Can´t wait to see Ivy in October´s Batman #608 :)

[BLACKHEART]

That Ivy in Oct may not look as good as the one that appeared in the Quinn book but at least she'll have a better story

[Green-Ghost]

Originally posted by SLIPKNOT
That Ivy in Oct may not look as good as the one that appeared in the Quinn book but at least she'll have a better story

Do you mean because she is not draw by Terry Dodson?

But I think Jim Lee will make a equal Ivy.
And I hope she will get a new costume :D

[Joker85]

Well, that was really bad! The constant Beverly Hillbillies theme song parody was EXTREMELY annoying!! Harley still looks like a man and if they don't get a new artist soon, I'll drop this title in a minute! The story itself was bad, but at least the hell storyline is over! Here's hoping that next months issue is better!

[Trent Lane]

Uh, yeah, what Joker85 said :D

Seriously, I losing intrest fast. I miss the Dobsons (sp?), and the whole Hell thing was a bit... well, I didn't like the story, period. I hope Harley's return to the real world will be a good one, and not more of the "Crapfest"....

[BLACKHEART]

This book is a sinking ship. Can fanboys save it? Or will it be doomed?

[BLACKHEART]

Harley’s missing in action following her fatally bizarre adventure "down under." Now, we find out what it’s like to live in a "World Without Harley." So whom do we focus on instead? Why, Martian Manhunter, naturally! Seems J’onn J’onzz has picked up a new client in his guise as a private detective. But not everything is as it seems. So what’s all this got to do with our Miss Quinzel? You won’t believe the answer!

http://www.dccomics.com/directcurrents/comics/Aug_14/covers/hq_23.jpg

[Green-Ghost]

And is Poison Ivy the client or not??? :rolleyes:

[BLACKHEART]

Sorry Gizmo but no. I was right. Since Ivy will be in the mainstream books this fall don't expect her in Quinn any time soon

This was the greatest issue of Harley Quinn that has not featured Poison Ivy. I'm not kidding. This was the best read of any Harley Quinn ever. I didn't get bored or annoied by Harley one bit

I would go into a little bit more detail but I don't want to ruin the suprise for anyone who hasn't read this one yet ;)

Best Harley Quinn ever

[Green-Ghost]

I miss my Ivyhttp://www.comicforum.de/comicforum/images/smilies/crying.gif http://www.comicforum.de/comicforum/images/smilies/crying2.gif
http://www.comicforum.de/comicforum/images/smilies/party.gif But she will appear in Batman #608http://www.comicforum.de/comicforum/images/smilies/ola.gif

[Joker85]

I'm glad to here that this is a good story! I hope it renews my faith in the series, after the hell storyline. I am planning on picking it up tomorrow, and will post my thoughts then. But just knowing that you enjoyed it, Slipknot, gives me hope. What about the art though, did the she still look like a man?

[BLACKHEART]

No she didn't look too bad at all. Kind of animated style

[Joker85]

OK, I just read it. It was a really good issue, which brings me to my first point:
Does anyone else think that Karl Kessler could write a kickass Martian Manhunter series?? I mean, this was practically like that, Harley was only in it briefly.
Second point:
The art is SOOOOO much better! I like this new guy a lot better than the last. Finally, the women(including Harley) look like Women! Yay!
I don't really understand how Harley was hoppin from women to woman, but I imagine that will be explained in the next issue. Hope so anyway. This issue gives me hope for the future, and I hope every Harley Fan past and present will pick it up!

[BLACKHEART]

The next issue will tell us whether or not the book's going to improve. It has foward momentum. Will Harley Quinn get the first down? Or will they turn it over on downs?

[BLACKHEART]

Written by Karl Kesel; art by Craig Rousseau and Dan Davis; cover by Carlo Barberi and Wayne Faucher
Harley Quinn is back from Hell! The tragically disembodied troublemaker is wreaking havoc across Martian Manhunter's hometown, and the Manhunter's finding out that it's hard to stop the spirit form of one of the DCU's most random villains without being able to touch her. The Manhunter calls on the aid of the magician Zatanna to wrangle the slippery spirit, but even their combined efforts may not be much help once Harley figures out how to possess people at will!

BATMAN | FC, 32 pg. $2.50

http://www.dccomics.com/directcurrents/comics/Sept_11/covers/hquinn_24.jpg

[Green-Ghost]

Hmm...wait a moment...let me guess...hmmm...ah...NO IVY ...right?

[BLACKHEART]

Like I've said in the past don't expct Ivy anytime soon to return to the Quinn book. She is back in the mainstream world and beyond this book

With that said. This wasn't as good as the last issue. It was kinda dumb. The only good news is that the next issue brings a new creative team and the Joker which will probably suck

[Joker85]

Is this Karl Kessler's last issue? I haven't gotten this one yet,but I probably will get it tomorrow. I hope the next couple of issues are good, and with the Joker coming back for a issue or two they should be! :D

[BLACKHEART]

With the history of this book I just hope they don't turn the Joker into just another joke

[Joker85]

eh, this was an ok issue. It just seemed a little too frantic to me. All the Harleys jumpin around switching bodies kinda got on my nerves. The artwork has improved though...so thats a plus. Hopefully the Joker will have a good appearance next issue. Heres hoping!

[BLACKHEART]

That was pretty much my take on it too. I got tired and it became annoying.

[Trent Lane]

Eh, if anything it's good to see Batman in the books again. Craig did a great job with the art, I must say. The next few issues look to be a real improvement, at least I hope they are...

[BLACKHEART]

It's hit or miss with this book. I don't really want to see the Joker get bought down by the title so I hope they use him correctly. He better try and kill her in the end. He can use her for an issue, but it better end with him trying to kill her.

[Gotham Knights '68]

Me, being a big Harley hater as of late actually liked this issue. I'm guessing it had to be the Martian Manhunter :D

Batmans appearance at the end was nice. I liked the story, I guess anything is better that the last arc :rolleyes:

Agree with your thoughts on the Jokers representation, I guess we will see ...

[BLACKHEART]

The last issue that featured the Manhunter was pretty good as well. This one would have been better if it wasn't so annoying with her switching bodies every panel.

[wrenchien]

if she's dead why does her spirit still wear that bodysuit?

[BLACKHEART]

I can answer that by saying, plot hole, not important enough, and it's the Harley Quinn book

[BLACKHEART]

Written by Karl Kesel; art by Craig Rousseau and Dan Davis; cover by Carlo Barberi and Alvaro Lopez

Batman guest-stars as the moment fans have waited for since issue #1 arrives at last! The Joker returns with something less than romance in his heart. Harley may have renounced him, but did she really mean it? And given that this is the Joker, you know nothing is going to be as it seems, as he launches a scheme that will have readers and Batman guessing until the end.

BATMAN | Color, 32 pg. $2.50

http://www.dccomics.com/directcurrents/comics/Oct_09/covers/hquinn_25.jpg

I can't wait to talk about this one. Sadly it's gonna be a week cause I'm leaving for a week in the morning.

[SpotLane]

I think the twist at the end when Batman finds out how The Joker came up with his plan. And it was so refreshing to see Harley and the Joker together again.

[DKstormyknight]

This was a good issue cover to cover! I loved the plot twists, and interaction between Harley, Joker and Batman. I can't wait for the next issue! :D


:cool:

[Joker85]

Just got around to reading this one. Definitely a BIG improvement over the last issue. Joker was handled well, which I was sorta nervous about, and the ending actually surprised me! I was disappointed they didn't at least keep Joker around for one more issue,but at least she's back in Gotham. After 25 issues, it'll be interesting to see what the new creative team does!

[Gotham Knights '68]

Well, #25 has succeded in keeping me around a little longer - great Joker. I was pleasantly suprised by the whole story - good stuff. Anything is better than that ridiculos Harley in Hell Arc :rolleyes:

[BLACKHEART]

I have returned and now I wish to speak on this issue.

I can't believe no one has mentioned how dumb the Joker looked in this story. Not to be rude or offend anyone, but he looked really sick. His face was kind of scary. I didn't like that at all.

The story was alright. Nothing great. It leaves you guessing if Joker will be back to try and kill Harley for selling him out at the very end. I liked how they kept the Joker character up and not put him into the animated style. His personality should be someone who uses others like Harley. In his world it's only Batman and himself. All others are just pawns and this was just some what true in this story.

[Gotham Knights '68]

Originally posted by SLIPKNOT
I have returned and now I wish to speak on this issue.

I can't believe no one has mentioned how dumb the Joker looked in this story. Not to be rude or offend anyone, but he looked really sick. His face was kind of scary. I didn't like that at all.

The story was alright. Nothing great. It leaves you guessing if Joker will be back to try and kill Harley for selling him out at the very end. I liked how they kept the Joker character up and not put him into the animated style. His personality should be someone who uses others like Harley. In his world it's only Batman and himself. All others are just pawns and this was just some what true in this story.


I didn't comment on the art work because although I personally did not like it either - I didn't think it was bad enough to really jump all over. Overall I enjoyed this issue better than the previous 12 or so issues so I'm gonna continue to buy it for now.

[BLACKHEART]

The next issue is going to be the one that sells the book or causes it to sit on a shelf. The next issue is the one where a new story arc is supposed to start up with the new creative team. I want to see where they are planning on taking us.

The art might not have been that bad, but the Joker was.

[BLACKHEART]

Written by Andy Lieberman; art and cover by Mike Huddleston and Troy Nixey

Introducing the brand new creative team behind the adventures of the cupid of crime! Harley Quinn finds herself in more than a spot of trouble, moments from a very watery death. Meanwhile, she's wanted for the murder of a GCPD officer, and the late cop's partner, Bishop is going to bring her in, no matter who gets in the way.

http://www.dccomics.com/directcurrents/comics/Nov_13/covers/hq_26.jpg

[DKstormyknight]

Overall I liked this issue. I'm not sure what to think about the art yet. Sometimes it looks good, and other times it looks ok.
I thought the story was really good. Ol' Harley girl was in a tight spot at the end.
I like the direction this is going in, and I hope the new team will keep it good.
:)



:cool:

[SpotLane]

I love this issue! Andy has Harley's character much better then Karl and the art is much more suited to Harley. (Don't get me wrong I like the old team but this new team seems to be able to handle Harley better)

I hope this new team stays with Harley for a long time.

[Joker85]

Eh, this issue was pretty good, but I didn't like it as much as last one. The art is alright and I'm sure it'll grow on me, but I wasn't too impressed. Also, Harley rethinking back to her Arkham origin AGAIN was boring. Thats been done before(in this very series) and enough is enough. The cop storyline looks promising and I'm glad Harley is back in Gotham. Hopefully it'll pick up next issue.

[JOKESONU]

Ugh, I hated this issue so much, but then again I loved Kessels work in the priot 25 issues.

For one, they kind of rewrote harleys origin which was uncalled for and above all else this issue was Boring.

Harleys a psychotic nut, she seemed to stiff and unfunny.

It was more of a chore reading this issue.

The arts a tad too flat for my taste as well.

Also she had already died and came back from hell. Shooting her or drowning her would just bring the book back to issue 20 all over again. She was freaking atomized, a bullet wound is boring.

[BLACKHEART]

This book seemed like a pop song played over and over on the radio. We all know where she came from by now. If you don't, why are you reading this book? I hated the art. It was horrible!

[BLACKHEART]

Written by Andy Lieberman; art and cover by Mike Huddleston and Troy Nixey
Harley gets down to business in her guise as a psychiatrist, but the parade of troubled folks she encounters make her look sane! Meanwhile, Harley's still wanted for the murder of a police officer, and she's got some very hot stolen goods on her to boot! Plus, don't miss her all-new (sort of) costume, and delight as she gets shot not once, but twice! All the action, all the drama and a few jokes thrown in for good measure!

DC UNIVERSE | 32pg. | Color | $2.50
Available on December 11th, 2002

http://www.dccomics.com/directcurrents/comics/dec_02/images/pic_medhq27cvr.jpg

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[BLACKHEART]

I might have to read this one again to cast a final verdict on it. It's building up to something. Whose out to get Harley? Who shot the cop? Could it be the same person?

One thing I didn't get. When Harley mentions "I got this from Ivy as something to remember her by"

Please tell me she isn't regenerating herself. The doc just pulled the bullet from her shoulder and it appeared like it was closing up. The colors are really bad on this issue so it's hard to tell exactly.

I wasn't aware that Harley and Wolverine were able to heal themself so well. What's next for Ms Quinn? Claws?

[Joker85]

I haven't actually read this one yet, but I did flip through it real quick and I gotta say, I still don't really care for the art. I mean, it's OK I guess, but it could stand great improvement. Well, I'll read it later on tonight. I hope it's better than last month's was.

[jgully]

healing?! tell me that isn't true

[BLACKHEART]

Yeah the art stinks but I kind of got tired complaining about it when I just thought people were like "And you expected different SLIPKNOT?"

Healing? Yeah I don't even think Ivy can do that. Remember when Joker shot her in issue one? She had her arm in a sling if I remember right. She does heal faster but I don't think her skin will just regenerate quickly. Now I don't know if that happened for sure. That's why I asked opinions. It might just be the crappy art and I hope it's just that.

[Joker85]

I actually enjoyed this issue for the most part. Yeah, the healing thing was a bit much to take and the art really kinda sucked,but the story was much better than last months plus it looks like we are gonna see Mr. J again soon! I enjoyed the costume man scene, reminded me of a short story I read in a Batman book once. Anyways, big improvement over last month!

[BLACKHEART]

I doubt we'll see Joker in the book anytime soon. They want you to think you'll see Joker but you never will. Besides they want you to think Joker killed the cop so the real killer will suprise you.

[Joker85]

Actually it said in the preview in the back for #28 that the Joker returns...I kinda thought he would, if only briefly.

[BLACKHEART]

Well then I am wrong.

[BLACKHEART]

Written by Andy Lieberman; art and cover by Mike Huddleston and Troy Nixey
The series' sensational new direction continues! Gotham Police are closing in on Harley, even as her psychiatric practice brings her a decidedly disturbed - and disturbing - new patient! And when she discovers the Joker may have had a hand in her current trouble, it leads her to a fateful confrontation with the one-time love of her life.

BATMAN | 32pg. | Color | $2.50
Available on January 8th, 2003

http://www.dccomics.com/directcurrents/comics/jan_03/images/pic_medhq28cvr.jpg

[Muninn]

A.J. Lieberman is a hack with no respect for the character.

[Clayface]

Originally posted by Muninn
A.J. Lieberman is a hack with no respect for the character.


You could perhaps expand your statement with some examples and discussion.

[Dee]

Originally posted by Muninn
A.J. Lieberman is a hack with no respect for the character.

Please Explain. You can't go saying that without anything to back yourself up.

[Muninn]

Originally posted by Clayface

You could perhaps expand your statement with some examples and discussion.


I'll copy/paste from the DC comics board.

I had become annoyed with A.J. Lieberman's completely unneccesary retconning of Harley's origin story, as well as his having turned Ms. Quinn into a Catwoman clone with a flashy outfit. Now, it's over for me, this comic. The final straw was depicting her as willing to KILL(WHAT!?) The Joker. It's insane, and I suggest that Lieberman actually read or watch something written by Paul Dini; It's obvious he has only a perfunctory interest in writing this character.
I'm in love with the art team. Mike Huddleston and Troy Nixey are the only reason I had continued to purchase this book, but it's just not worth the 2.50 a month for such a lazy story, no matter how pretty the pictures. Maybe, in the future, they can work on something better, say Batman.

Andy Lieberman, go back to MTV.

[SpotLane]

Originally posted by Muninn

The final straw was depicting her as willing to KILL(WHAT!?) The Joker.



Kill The Joker?! The only way I could ever see Harley doing that is if The Joker gets rid of her and dates another woman.

[Joker85]

I really enjoyed this issue! I'm still trying to get used to the art, but I'm sure I'll learn to like it. I enjoyed seeing the Joker again,and I was shocked Harley was able to trick him like that. I think the writer really dumbed Mr. J down for this issue. I have really liked her scenes at work as a psychologist, and it seems to me that they are trying to make her look like Mia Sara in those scenes. Anyways, I really liked it and look foward to seeing where else the new team is gonna take us!

[BLACKHEART]

The Joker doesn't "date" Harley Quinn. He uses her to take the fall and a bullet or two. He has no use for her other than to save his own hide.

INFACT the only killing that should be done is the Joker putting a bullet or 30 into Harley Quinn.

Sure the Harley/Joker thing might have worked to some on the animated show but this isn't the happy/friendly animated world and the Joker doesn't need Quinn bringing him down to the level of Penguin.