X-Men: TAS "Time Fugitives, Parts 1 & 2" Talkback (Spoilers)

[Stu]

Continuing the X-Men: The Animated Series Talkbacks!


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Episode #20 - Time Fugitives, Part 1
Original Airdate - December 11, 1993
It's 3999 AD. in New York City and Nate Summers, also known as Cable is leading a war against Apocalypse and his forces. But when a timestorm appears, Cable discovers that the past is being altered by the mutant known as Bishop and that these alterations will cause the destruction of the mutant race.

Episode #21 - Time Fugitives, Part 2
Original Airdate - December 18, 1993
Cable comes to the present to stop Bishop and save his own future world. But after a one-sided fight against Bishop and the X-Men, Cable realizes that they might be too powerful to handle on his own. Looking for an alternative, Cable looks into the X-Men's history and discovers that Logan's healing factor may be the key to saving the future.

Comments?

[screw on head]

More good timing! ABC Family aired Part 1 of "Time Fugitives" this morning at 11:30am.

[Stu]

This was a weird one. It was enjoyable, but most of part 2 was exactly the same as part 1! Way to save the animation budget! :D

Besides that, I really enjoyed it. Bishop was slightly annoying as always, but Cable was cool, even with his historically lame catchphrase. :p

Good ol' Wolverine, saved the day again :D

[Solitude1]

Cable: Time to reach out and touch someone.:cool:


Wow, I actually remember this ep. God what I wouldn't give for a box season set of this show.

[shadowcat]

i dont like it i like the new show:zim:
i vote 1/2

[OmegaPaladin]

Very nice. Animation was standard, but this was the best Cable show in the series. It hit all the bases for him... hinting at his origin, showing his mutant power, letting him act as a leader. This episode was to Cable what Days of Future Past was to Bishop.

Logan: "Don't you guys ever use cars?"

[RAINMAN]

I love both parts. Cable&Bishop barly show up in the series so it nice to have ep`s like these on them.

[Conekiller]

These were fun, Easilly one of the most memorable sets of the entire show for me.

I love the solution to Bishop and Cable's problem. It makes sence, but when I was 11 it wasn't readly obvious to me.

This was a 3rd season ep, right?

(I'd forgotten how choppy the animation was in this show)

[90'sCartoonMan]

I always thought this episode was cool just because at the end of part 1 you see Apocalypse obliterate the X-Men. Talk about ending on a down note.

Plus it was a nice way to work in both Bishop and Cable, you want them both to save their futures, but you don't know how it's possible.


BTW Conekiller: Awesome avatar!

[RAINMAN]

These were fun, Easilly one of the most memorable sets of the entire show for me.

I love the solution to Bishop and Cable's problem. It makes sence, but when I was 11 it wasn't readly obvious to me.

This was a 3rd season ep, right?

(I'd forgotten how choppy the animation was in this show)

2nd season. By the way did anyone hear rough called those anit-muitants guys rednecks?:eek:

[Tinytooncrazy]

Through it doesn't mention it specially I like the nod that cycoplesis cable father

[S.C.B]

I always loved the absolute chaos of part 2. The minor skirmish in the street in part 1 becomes an absoulte warzone. Cable's shooting at Bishop, Wolverine's going after Cable, Jean's holding up the Blackbird, the FOH are attacking the X-Men...

I wished they had made more of Cable's relationship to Cyclops and Jean. Why bother to put in Jean's "It can't be..." if they weren't going to follow up on it?

I mean, God knows that Scott and Jean needed something to make them more interesting.

[Arsenal]

Well, Jean did turn into the Phoenix.

They did a lot of teasing with the Summers family. We are introduced to Havok and learn their powers don't work on each other, but there is no mention of family. The first time we met Corsair, we didn't hear he was Scott's father.

I think the creative team might have done some backtracking when it comes to Cable. When he showed up in Genosha in season one there was no mention of time traveling. I wonder if the creative team wanted to use Cable as a modern day freedom fighter and changed their mind.

(X-Men retroactively changed continuity a couple times. It'll give you headaches if you think about it, so I don't.)

[Rick Jones]

Did anyone else ever find it weird that Cable was fighting so hard to keep his dreadful, apocalyptic future ?
That always bugged me. You'd think he'd be trying for a better one, where humanity isn't mostly annihilated by Apocalypse or someything.
How cool was the little "Terminator" scene where Cable is fiddling with his bionic arm though?

[Trevor]

Until I saw this episode on the Disney DVD release, I had totally forgotten what it was all about. But since seeing the episode again I must say that it is one of my favorite episodes of the series. Of course, I won't list it in a 1, 2, 3... list until the entire series is out on DVD and I've seen all the episodes again since it has been years since I saw the entire series.

But as I've been rewatching the Wolverine and The X-Men episodes Future X, Badlands and Rover I've been thinking back to how the future was displayed in Time Fugitives Parts 1 & 2. Of course we have seen Bishop in WATX, but it would be nice to see Cable introduced in the show. But with what occurs in the future for Cable in this XTAS episode was most likely changed by Wolverine curing the mutants, and even the future that Cable goes back to, while it may look the same, it was clearly shown that it had changed.


Di the producers of the 90's X-Men ever create a follow-up episode to this appearance of Bishop and Cable?


This was a weird one. It was enjoyable, but most of part 2 was exactly the same as part 1! Way to save the animation budget! :D



Yeah, when I saw the DVD I was thinking the exact same thing. Of course at first I thought the DVD was defective---but then it turned out that it wasn't---it was just that the producers had reused the Part 1 animation.

[Manhunter]

2nd season. By the way did anyone hear rough called those anit-muitants guys rednecks?:eek:

And before that, she called Graydon Creed a peckerwood.

[Trevor]

And before that, she called Graydon Creed a peckerwood.


There's just something about the way language was used in the 90's that the 2000's haven't been able to do.

Oh, yeah, anyone know what a "peckerwood" is?

[Manhunter]

Oh, yeah, anyone know what a "peckerwood" is?

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=peckerwood

[Master Toon]

Oh, yeah, anyone know what a "peckerwood" is?

It's a slang term for someone from Redneckistan.

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[dmxx116]

Marvel just put out this badass part 1 episode featuring Cable and Bishop:

"Time Fugitives" begins in New York City, in 3999 AD. Here Time is changing itself. Cable uses his time device and sees that Bishop traveled from 2055 AD to the present to stop a plague, which Apocalypse started. Because he stopped the virus from being created, the antibodies that protected mutants from further plagues were never created.

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http://marvel.com/videos/894.X-Men_~op~1992~ep~_-_Season_2%2C_Episode_20

[Trevor]

I just watched this episode a few days ago on the DVD. It was really, really good. Plus it was fun seeing how they reused the animation from the first part in the second part because the majority of the second part was the exact same story as the first part. Reminds me of what they did on Babylon 5 a couple of times where they took pieces of old episodes and inserted them into the "new" story because they couldn't get the actors to come back and, from what the DVD's of the show said, it was only going to be cost-effective to reuse the already shot footage.

[DawnWarrior]

Cable was awesome on this series, in every one of his appearances (there weren't very many). It just hit me: when are they going to have Cable on Wolverine and the X-Men? They've knocked every other character out of the park, so why not old Nate? (btw, if you're in the UK and Cable shows up by the end of the season, don't tell me. I want it to be a surprise. If he doesn't appear, don't tell me that either.)

[Anwar]

They never had him in X-Men EVO but I did think it was a nice touch in that the powered up Cyclops we saw in "Cauldron" looked just like Cable.

[dmxx116]

Sorry for the delay here part two of this badass episode Cable comes to the present to stop Bishop and save his own future world.
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http://marvel.com/videos/906.X-Men_~op~1992~ep~_-_Season_2%2C_Episode_21