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bluedeucedodge
09-15-2004, 12:03 AM
Has anyone heard anything about when Cartoon Network will begin airing Fullmetal Alchemist episodes? I have heard some great things about the show, and I would love to know when CN plans on airing them.
Swordfish_II
09-15-2004, 12:07 AM
Saturdays starting November 6th at 11:30 PM eastern time.
Riza Hawkeye
09-15-2004, 12:12 AM
Has anyone heard anything about when Cartoon Network will begin airing Fullmetal Alchemist episodes? I have heard some great things about the show, and I would love to know when CN plans on airing them.
November 6, 2005 at 11:30 P.M. Only four days before my birthday :D
Oh, and make sure to watch it. I don't know how well Funi will dub, I'll wait to see it before making any judgements. As long as it remains as unedited as possible, I'll be happy. I may do an edit list within the discussions, depending upon how many there are (hopefully not many since this is AS) and if it's ok with the mods.
bluedeucedodge
09-15-2004, 12:19 AM
November 6, 2005 at 11:30 P.M. Only four days before my birthday :D
Did you mean 2005? That is a while away. I hope that you really meant 2004.
Riza Hawkeye
09-15-2004, 12:20 AM
Did you mean 2005? That is a while away. I hope that you really meant 2004.
Opps...Sorry I meant 2004 :sweat:
bluedeucedodge
09-15-2004, 12:22 AM
Oh OK that is great. I can't wait. I have heard really great things about the show. Some even say that it is as great as Bebop, but I guess we will have to wait and see.
Riza Hawkeye
09-15-2004, 12:29 AM
Oh OK that is great. I can't wait. I have heard really great things about the show. Some even say that it is as great as Bebop, but I guess we will have to wait and see. Fullmetal Alchemist blows everything out of the water, just my opinion of course ;), but this series wastes no time sucking you in and not letting go. There is really only one 'filler episode' and even that one is great. Believe me, you won't regret tuning in for this one, I'm sure anyone else who has seen it will agree with me.
Pepperidge
09-15-2004, 01:05 AM
If nothing else, FMA has to be one of the only anime shows out there that is almost unanimously agreed to living up to its hype. I doubt many people are going to be dissapointed. It may even surpass Bebop in my books, but I'm going to wait and see how the ending turns out before I make the final judgement.
Oh, and considering how much AS has been able to get away with in Detective Conan with a TV PG rating, I can't think of more than two or three episodes where I'd even suspect digital reduction of blood to be necessary.
Riza Hawkeye
09-15-2004, 01:47 AM
If nothing else, FMA has to be one of the only anime shows out there that is almost unanimously agreed to living up to its hype. I doubt many people are going to be dissapointed. It may even surpass Bebop in my books, but I'm going to wait and see how the ending turns out before I make the final judgement. The ending won't really affect my final judgement of the series, I've loved it since the first episode all the way to 48 (that's as far as has aired to date) and even if I don't like the ending I will still love the series. There are some things I want to happen and some things I don't want to happen at the end, but how ever it concludes I will say it be at the top of my anime list one way or another.
Oh, and considering how much AS has been able to get away with in Detective Conan with a TV PG rating, I can't think of more than two or three episodes where I'd even suspect digital reduction of blood to be necessary. I sincerely hope you are correct.
bluedeucedodge
09-16-2004, 12:58 AM
What kind of animation is FMA? Are the special effects great or like other anime. I haven't seen an episode of FMA, but the pictures of the characters look pretty good.
Riza Hawkeye
09-16-2004, 03:01 AM
What kind of animation is FMA? Are the special effects great or like other anime. I haven't seen an episode of FMA, but the pictures of the characters look pretty good.
FMA's animation quality is superb, the animation is done by BONES. BONES has done the animation for Wolf's Rain, RahXephon, and Angelic Layer. Also I know BONES work with the production of the Cowboy Bebop movie, but don't know if they did the animation. The special effects are nice during the transmutations, pictures don't really do it justice.
MrBananagrabber
09-16-2004, 10:39 AM
FMA's animation quality is superb, the animation is done by BONES. BONES has done the animation for Wolf's Rain, RahXephon, and Angelic Layer. Also I know BONES work with the production of the Cowboy Bebop movie, but don't know if they did the animation. The special effects are nice during the transmutations, pictures don't really do it justice. Yep, the series is animated very nicely. It also manages to be a long one and not get ridiculous or tedious. I do think that the first 2 or 3 episodes aren't spectacular, but once the main story kicks in it's interesting. It also manages to handle a large cast of characters, and do a damn good job of it. I'll be looking forward to the dub on AS, too.
The only criticism I have is that the music isn't anything that really stands out, and the opening and ending themes are terrible, save for the third ending, 'Motherland'.
Riza Hawkeye
09-16-2004, 02:54 PM
The only criticism I have is that the music isn't anything that really stands out, and the opening and ending themes are terrible, save for the third ending, 'Motherland'.
I disagree with you about the music, I really like all the music. All of the music fits well with the show. The fast-pace J-rock intros, the nice BGM, and the nicely done outros all set the feel of the show. But I guess whether you like the music depends on your taste in music, personally as long as it has good beat I'll give it a chance. Incidently my least favorite opening or closing from the show is 'Motherland', cause it's too slow for my liking.
Funkatron
09-17-2004, 09:58 AM
My favorite ending= the one with Winry in it :p
Riza Hawkeye
09-17-2004, 12:06 PM
My favorite ending= the one with Winry in it :p
Do you mean favorite song or favorite closing animation? :p
bluedeucedodge
09-17-2004, 11:05 PM
I was about to be pissed. First they said it was to air in Nov. then they said it was gonna be pushed back to Jan, then they changed it back to Nov. I hate it when they put out false info. Well, I guess I am a litle relieved. Can't wait till Nov.
Riza Hawkeye
09-17-2004, 11:09 PM
I was about to be pissed. First they said it was to air in Nov. then they said it was gonna be pushed back to Jan, then they changed it back to Nov. I hate it when they put out false info. Well, I guess I am a litle relieved. Can't wait till Nov.
Actually it was supposed to air in October originally, then it changed to November, then to January, and then back to November again. I just want them to stick to this most recent annoucement, cause I don't want to wait any longer than I need to to see it in English.
JetMaster5
09-18-2004, 02:07 AM
.....Sure, Full Metal Alchemist is great, but in my opinion, it's not Bebop-quality. Definately not. Still, FMA is great, just don't expect anything like a Kenshin-level of storytelling or don't anticipate a lot out of it. It's better that way.
LordByronius
09-18-2004, 02:37 PM
Yep, the series is animated very nicely. It also manages to be a long one and not get ridiculous or tedious. I do think that the first 2 or 3 episodes aren't spectacular, but once the main story kicks in it's interesting. It also manages to handle a large cast of characters, and do a damn good job of it. I'll be looking forward to the dub on AS, too.
The only criticism I have is that the music isn't anything that really stands out, and the opening and ending themes are terrible, save for the third ending, 'Motherland'.
Man, funk dat. Asian Kung-Fu Generation did the fourth opening, "Rewrite." They're awesome. 2 cool 4 skool, even.
Rikou
09-22-2004, 01:39 PM
The Funi dub really isn't that bad, in my opinion. They were airing the 1st episode of the dub at Otakon before the L'Arc~en~Ciel concert, and we ended up seeing it twice. I've never seen the original, but none of the voices sounded really off and horrible to me.
The only one that really bothered me was Al. Is he supposed to sound five?
Riza Hawkeye
09-22-2004, 02:53 PM
The only one that really bothered me was Al. Is he supposed to sound five? He's 14, but he sounds young even in the original. I'll hold off judgement till I hear him for myself but, if Funi did it correctly and he was the narrator's voice from the trailer Funi has on their site, he sounds fine.
Matt Hazuda
09-22-2004, 03:25 PM
So how's the show in terms of quality? Most shows seem to have a reasonable drop in it after the first couple of episodes, pick up again, repeat till the end.
Also, how many clip shows do we have to suffer through? A show this long is bound to have one.
Final question. How is the ending? Without giving out spoilers, do we reach a conclusion or are we left hanging?
Riza Hawkeye
09-22-2004, 03:43 PM
So how's the show in terms of quality? Most shows seem to have a reasonable drop in it after the first couple of episodes, pick up again, repeat till the end.
Also, how many clip shows do we have to suffer through? A show this long is bound to have one.
Final question. How is the ending? Without giving out spoilers, do we reach a conclusion or are we left hanging? Quality -- Great, one of the best anime shows out there. To me, there is no drop off in quality. Every episode is interesting and well done. Many episodes left me shocked, in a good way though. The tone of the show does change from the beginning to the end, it's not really as comedic in the latter episode.
Clip shows -- None :D, 7 of the first 9 episodes are all set in the past, but they are by no means clip shows.
Ending -- Don't know yet, there are still two more episodes left to air. I can tell ya in two weeks.
I guess I should warn you all that character death is pretty frequent in FMA. You might start to like a character one episode, then BAM, they're dead the next. It's quite annoying when you start to like a character and they end up getting axed an episode/chapter later.
Riza Hawkeye
09-22-2004, 04:28 PM
I guess I should warn you all that character death is pretty frequent in FMA. You might start to like a character one episode, then BAM, they're dead the next. It's quite annoying when you start to like a character and they end up getting axed an episode/chapter later. True...so true. I've have yet to get over certain character's deaths. :( But even the demises of characters are done well, if you can really care about a character enough to be sad when that character dies, then it is really meaningful.
LordByronius
09-22-2004, 09:12 PM
Personally, I'm curious as to how they'll get around the violence. Nary an episode goes by when something isn't blown up/stabbed/eviscerated/melted/dismembered/etc.
Anyway, yeah, the show is great. Real top-quality work by BONES. Unlike Wolf's Rain, FMA *is* always fun and exciting to watch, no contest. (I almost typed "no bones about it" there, without even realizing it. The puns, they run deep in my blood...)
I can't get into how it all wraps up and ends, since I absolved myself to stop watching the fansubs about a month ago, but I will say that as of the 30-odd shows I'd managed to watch, nary a one felt unnecessary or like padding. And no, no clip shows. Plenty of flashback episodes, though.
Everytime someone asks about violence, I point to the ATHF where Shake gets his tounge cut off.
livingfruitvirus
09-22-2004, 09:29 PM
Personally, I'm curious as to how they'll get around the violence. Nary an episode goes by when something isn't blown up/stabbed/eviscerated/melted/dismembered/etc. Case Closed Case Closed Case Closed Case Closed Case Closed....
vvvvvvvvvvv
that quote keeps getting misinterpreted or mangled everywhere I see it ("FMA will be shown uncut on CN but they're reducing the blood." -Anime Nation board user). They said MAYBE there will be, but at the same time there might NOT be, because they're not CN and they don't know the standards. They're just sending the video to CN unaltered.
And technically that wouldn't make it uncut anyway.
Swordfish_II
09-22-2004, 09:29 PM
Personally, I'm curious as to how they'll get around the violence. Nary an episode goes by when something isn't blown up/stabbed/eviscerated/melted/dismembered/etc.
According to FUNimation, FMA will be shown uncut, however there may be some edits to lessen the amount of blood.
Killtacular
09-22-2004, 10:05 PM
I assume it will be cut to some extent. WS will likely speed up the credits of FMA. We don't know if WS will trim the opening to FMA or leave it as is. I know that FUNimation keeps talking about how great the OP is and how it will air on TV and amaze everyone... it may just be left alone. As for the blood, don't assume that just because Reign and Wolf's Rain have had their fair share of blood that the amount of bloodletting will remain a consistent leniance. Remember that after Reign came Trigun which had lots of blood removed that was nowhere near as bad as Reign's. We don't know if FMA will turn out the same.
livingfruitvirus
09-22-2004, 10:50 PM
I know that FUNimation keeps talking about how great the OP is and how it will air on TV and amaze everyone...
Then if what Sean Akins said about the openings that do air is reliable, it'll probably air. FUNimation even went to the trouble of bringing the band to the US, which is a once in a long time thing for them.
Tachikoma
09-22-2004, 11:21 PM
As for the blood, don't assume that just because Reign and Wolf's Rain have had their fair share of blood that the amount of bloodletting will remain a consistent leniance. Remember that after Reign came Trigun which had lots of blood removed that was nowhere near as bad as Reign's. We don't know if FMA will turn out the same.
The context of the blood is the major factor in deciding if it can stay or would need to be removed. For instance, in war violence there could be more leeway than say a pool of blood from a gunshot wound to the head. Or, blood from an animal bite would be different from blood from bullet holes in a human.
Context, frequence, and whether or not it serves the story are the main issues to look out for. I would hope there has been a growth pattern to the anime on [adult swim] as far as editing objectionable content. Only the most violent or sexual images would be removed, or painted if it was critical to the plot.
As far as FMA goes, I really can't say. I'm watching the original Japanese version and depending on what Funi hands over, there will probably be only minimal visual edits to the most extreme visuals of death & gore. If you need to see something to understand the story, it would probably be toned down with blood reduction or masking.
Well, I think I've already said too much. Suffice it to say, FMA & SAC are in good hands with [adult swim], barring all the people who wig out over Opens & Endings. Those people could just rent the DVD.
Killtacular
09-22-2004, 11:27 PM
barring all the people who wig out over Opens & Endings. Those people could just rent the DVD.
They shouldn't actually wig out, as FUNimation keeps insisting that Full Metal Alchemist is going to show its opening on Adult Swim. Unless you mean them wigging out over 'trunicated'/shortened versions of said opens and endings.. in which case.. yeah, they can just rent the DVD. I'd just like to see an opening in some form period. I hate just launching right into a show.
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Tachikoma
09-22-2004, 11:30 PM
Sorry. I meant the shortened versions of the opens & closes. I don't know anything about the Funi version.
Killtacular
09-22-2004, 11:31 PM
Sorry. I meant the shortened versions of the opens & closes. I don't know anything about the Funi version.
Okay, cool. Thanks for clarifying.
livingfruitvirus
09-22-2004, 11:36 PM
The context of the blood is the major factor in deciding if it can stay or would need to be removed. For instance, in war violence there could be more leeway than say a pool of blood from a gunshot wound to the head. Or, blood from an animal bite would be different from blood from bullet holes in a human.
And i'm guessing comedy blood is pretty much anything goes. That's what others said in an interview or two. Like Matt Maiellaro said "They let us do whatever we want with violence."
Rikou
09-23-2004, 12:21 AM
He's 14, but he sounds young even in the original. I'll hold off judgement till I hear him for myself but, if Funi did it correctly and he was the narrator's voice from the trailer Funi has on their site, he sounds fine.
What trailer is that? The only one I can find is the one here:
http://www.fullmetalalchemist.com/
Shredder
09-23-2004, 12:45 AM
I just want to jump in and highly recommend FMA to anyone who hasn't seen it yet. I'll have to save my opinion on the ending until it airs, but it really is consistently good throughout. :)
I wonder why they didn't choose OP 1 or 3 (or even 4)? 2 is the weakest, in my opinion...
Riza Hawkeye
09-23-2004, 12:53 AM
What trailer is that? The only one I can find is the one here:
http://www.fullmetalalchemist.com/ When FMA was original announced as being licensed, Funi had two trailers on their website. One was Chris Sabat narrating during various scenes from the early part of the series, this is the one still on the site, but it is not the one I am talking about. The one I am talking about is not so much a trailer, but just the second opening. Before 'Ready Steady GO!!' plays there is a short narration by Alphonse where he talks about the principle of equalvalent trade in alchemy. This trailer is no longer avalible on Funimation's website, but when it was I saved it on my computer.
I wonder why they didn't choose OP 1 or 3 (or even 4)? 2 is the weakest, in my opinion... "Ready Steady GO!!" is the most popular opening to FMA in Japan, and the animation is great. I would have prefered "Melissa", but I like "Ready Steady GO!!" so I'm ok with it. There is no way they would use OP 3 or OP 4, because the animation has too many spoilers for the eariler episodes. "Rewrite" is my personal favorite, but I didn't expect it to be used for television.
Mysteryinfoman
09-23-2004, 04:38 PM
This reminds about when BG was gonna air on AS, even though it had some questionable edits, let's hope Funi does a good job, FMA is a new show with mordern animation, done with computers but not CG so I guess it'll be easier to edit something out then say Yu Yu or BG.
chevy citation
09-23-2004, 10:57 PM
This question might not belong here (if it doesn't then ignore me :sweat: ) but I've only read the manga (and I love it) for FMA. So is the anime very different from the manga or is it a straight adaptation of it?
bluedeucedodge
09-23-2004, 10:59 PM
I read on a site that FMA was ranked as best anime for 2004. That sounds like it lives up to the hype.
Riza Hawkeye
09-23-2004, 11:42 PM
This question might not belong here (if it doesn't then ignore me :sweat: ) but I've only read the manga (and I love it) for FMA. So is the anime very different from the manga or is it a straight adaptation of it? The manga and anime are rather different, from what I know; I haven't actually read the manga, but I know some things about it. The manga will likely continue for a while after the anime ends, since the last episode is in two weeks.
LordByronius
09-23-2004, 11:44 PM
The manga and anime are rather different, from what I know; I haven't actually read the manga, but I know some things about it. The manga will likely continue for a while after the anime ends, since the last episode is in two weeks.
Well, there's also the movie planned for next summer, but whatever.
And no, the anime doesn't follow the manga, or vice-versa. From what I understand, both the anime and the manga (as well as the Square-Enix games) went into production around the same time.
JetMaster5
09-23-2004, 11:46 PM
It's actually pretty similar to the manga. It's just the way they tell it is different.
Jimmy Kustes
09-24-2004, 02:40 AM
Now I want to check this thing out!
Bandit
09-24-2004, 11:33 AM
The manga and anime were IDENTICAL in style, visuals, etc up until a couple chapters ago. Then the anime story split off from the manga story. Many people claim the anime is better than the manga because it aims to wrap things up quickly. The manga is probably going to be one of those ongoing ones like Inuyasha, except with a story.
jeffrey 228
09-24-2004, 12:23 PM
Well I hope for hte best that this series can be very good just like Fruts Basket, or to so to at least an extent from what I herd back at The Offcial Adult Swim forums and all.
Shredder
09-25-2004, 12:02 AM
"Ready Steady GO!!" is the most popular opening to FMA in Japan, and the animation is great. I would have prefered "Melissa", but I like "Ready Steady GO!!" so I'm ok with it. There is no way they would use OP 3 or OP 4, because the animation has too many spoilers for the eariler episodes. "Rewrite" is my personal favorite, but I didn't expect it to be used for television.
Yeah, I guess 4 in particular would have way too many spoilers...but I agree that "Melissa" would be best to start with, it's upbeat and fun. It's too bad they can't just change intros as the series does. I also hope they keep Al's intro, but knowing Funi, probably not. :sad:
Any idea what ending(s) they plan to use?
Riza Hawkeye
09-25-2004, 12:30 AM
Yeah, I guess 4 in particular would have way too many spoilers...but I agree that "Melissa" would be best to start with, it's upbeat and fun. It's too bad they can't just change intros as the series does. I also hope they keep Al's intro, but knowing Funi, probably not. :sad:
Any idea what ending(s) they plan to use? There's been no word on the closing that will be used for the AS broadcast. And since there has been no comment, I hoping that means they will be using all of them as they aired in Japan. A lot of time the closing starts playing before the show ends, it would be stupid to have "Tobira no Mukou e" (ED2) start playing and then switch to "Kesenai Tsumi" (ED1) or vice versa. The no comment by Funi could also mean they won't show any closing, which is very unlikely but still possible. The best thing they can do is air all of them as they aired in Japan.
Edit, I forgot to comment on Al's intro: Al's intro had better remain, it is more sugnificant than it seems. I'm hoping it will remain, since it was on Funi's website originally, but the fact that it was taken down might not be a good sign :shrug:
Bandit
09-25-2004, 07:21 PM
Edit, I forgot to comment on Al's intro: Al's intro had better remain, it is more sugnificant than it seems. I'm hoping it will remain, since it was on Funi's website originally, but the fact that it was taken down might not be a good sign :shrug:
Agreed... the whole series is about the principle of equivalent trade, and in order to get 100% of what's going on in the episode, Al's lil speech at the beginning is pretty important.
They already dubbed it, and it seems as if Square Enix is having a lot of input on the distribution of this series in the US (with the forced non-dubbing of songs and English scripts provided directly to Funimation) so I think that Al's speech will probably remain.
bluedeucedodge
09-26-2004, 02:05 AM
So the songs won't be dubbed? I guess that will work. It works pretty well with Inuyasha, so I don't see why it wouldn't with FMA.
Riza Hawkeye
09-26-2004, 02:24 AM
So the songs won't be dubbed? I guess that will work. It works pretty well with Inuyasha, so I don't see why it wouldn't with FMA. Thank God (AKA Sony), no FMA songs will be dubbed. It was said early on that Sony would not give the rights to the songs to Funi so they could dub them. I can't imagine "Ready Steady GO!!" or "Melissa" or "Rewrite" or any FMA song for that matter dubbed, they are great in their original form and why mess with greatness? ;)
bluedeucedodge
09-26-2004, 02:46 AM
Thank God (AKA Sony), no FMA songs will be dubbed. It was said early on that Sony would not give the rights to the songs to Funi so they could dub them. I can't imagine "Ready Steady GO!!" or "Melissa" or "Rewrite" or any FMA song for that matter dubbed, they are great in their original form and why mess with greatness? ;)Yeah music should be left alone so that the viewers can enjoy it the way that it was meant to be heard. Are the majority of the songs up beat?
Riza Hawkeye
09-26-2004, 03:10 AM
Yeah music should be left alone so that the viewers can enjoy it the way that it was meant to be heard. Are the majority of the songs up beat? Overall, yes. The animation that goes along with them, gives them a great feel. The third closing is the slowest OP or ED of the series, but it's ok. A lot of the background music is a bit depressing, but it sets the right mood, especially at the end of the series. Go to TylerL's site (http://asfdotcom.net/) to see the first three opening animations with their respective songs. I will say be cautious about watching the third one, because it has minor spoilers, the first and second fine though, they also give you good impression of how good the animation is, but in the fourth OP which isn't on TylerL's site you can see they spent a little extra money on that one. If you haven't seen any of FMA, you won't know who most of the characters are that pop on the screen, but it will make sense once you see the series.
Kouji Tamino
09-26-2004, 03:36 AM
Actually, I'm disapointed that the songs are not going to be dubbed. I'd like to hear an alternate take on them.
Yeah music should be left alone so that the viewers can enjoy it the way that it was meant to be heard.
That's what the DVD's are for. I'd actually prefer if English dubs had ENGLISH openings/endings, while the original version of the show has the original openings/endings. Not saying that there's anything bad with the originals, they are actually almost always better than the English version without a doubt, it's just that English openings and endings are a nice touch and give a more 'complete' feeling English dub.
Vu Man
09-26-2004, 03:51 AM
Fancy meeting you here Yusuke. I'm XTReactorVX from GFAQs.
Anyway for people that are interested in the voices, as one other person said the first episode was played at Otakon.
Edward is played by Vic Mignogna. He voiced Kurz Weber from Full Metal Alchemist and that guy in Kiddy Grade. I had no problems recognizing his voice so if you've heard him before, you'll hear him again.
Also nobody that appears in the first episode has an accent, that includes Rose and the priest Edward fights. Chuck Huber (Hiei) plays the bartender in the first episode.
bluedeucedodge
09-26-2004, 11:11 PM
That's what the DVD's are for. .Yeah but if the English dubb screws it up, it wouldn't do the show justice. I say, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Kouji Tamino
09-26-2004, 11:40 PM
Fancy meeting you here Yusuke. I'm XTReactorVX from GFAQs.
No, I'm not from GameFaqs...
Yeah but if the English dubb screws it up, it wouldn't do the show justice. I say, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Yeah, but it would still be nice in my opinion. I really find it weird when a show in one language has songs in another language. When I gave subtitled Cowboy Bebop a go, the English songs felt a bit awkward.
bluedeucedodge
09-26-2004, 11:58 PM
Yeah, but it would still be nice in my opinion. I really find it weird when a show in one language has songs in another language. When I gave subtitled Cowboy Bebop a go, the English songs felt a bit awkward.Yeah I know what you mean. I just don't know if the words will match up correctly from one language to another. Like when American singers try to translate Spanish songs, and they screw it up. I don't know. I think that Funi will make the right decisions.(Hopefully. Which ever it may be.) It will come out for the best.
bluedeucedodge
09-28-2004, 02:52 PM
Oh, and plus, with them not dubbing in English, you can appreciate them in both languages. You can listen to the songs in Japanese, and translate it for yourself in English. It works out best.( I realize that it would be easier for them to dub them in English for you, but it still works.)
Kouji Tamino
09-28-2004, 09:55 PM
I wish that they could at least have openings in English as an extra of some sort. I was really looking forward to English versions of 'Melissa', 'Ready, Steady, Go!', and 'UNDO'. (I haven't seen te 4th opening with the song 'REWRITE' yet.)
Riza Hawkeye
09-28-2004, 11:42 PM
I wish that they could at least have openings in English as an extra of some sort. I was really looking forward to English versions of 'Melissa', 'Ready, Steady, Go!', and 'UNDO'. (I haven't seen te 4th opening with the song 'REWRITE' yet.) It's not going to happen, believe me, and really there is no point. If a dub of FMA's songs were done they wouldn't be the same songs. Listen to Rurouni Kenshin's first opening, 'Freckles'/'Sobakasu'. While they may be saying the same general thing, the translation and dub have a different feel to them. To me, the dub has a lighter feel to it than the actually translation. I'll take the songs in Japanese with an English translation over a dubbed song that tries to find the feel of the original music any time. There is no reason to dub them, Sony doesn't want them dubbed and they have the final say, so they will not be dubbed.
Kouji Tamino
09-29-2004, 04:51 PM
It's not going to happen, believe me, and really there is no point. If a dub of FMA's songs were done they wouldn't be the same songs. Listen to Rurouni Kenshin's first opening, 'Freckles'/'Sobakasu'. While they may be saying the same general thing, the translation and dub have a different feel to them. To me, the dub has a lighter feel to it than the actually translation. I'll take the songs in Japanese with an English translation over a dubbed song that tries to find the feel of the original music any time. There is no reason to dub them, Sony doesn't want them dubbed and they have the final say, so they will not be dubbed.
Well I don't see any American releases of a Full Metal Alchemist OST, so I don't see why Sony is doing this. My parents won't let me shop online, so I can't buy imports. There is no way for me to hear the original song except the TV size version on the DVDs, and with no English songs, there's no reason for me to buy the DVDs. I only buy DVDs if the extra material is good, or there doesn't seem to be much hope for a TV showing.
As for your point of the English version of the songs not being the same, the original would be on the DVD regardless. The English dialouge is never exactly the same, either. I'm just saying that it would be nice for the original version to have the original opening, and the not-so-accurate English version to have a not-so-accurate English opening. I don't think that that is much to ask.
Stupid Sony.
Riza Hawkeye
09-29-2004, 05:34 PM
Well I don't see any American releases of a Full Metal Alchemist OST, so I don't see why Sony is doing this. My parents won't let me shop online, so I can't buy imports. There is no way for me to hear the original song except the TV size version on the DVDs, and with no English songs, there's no reason for me to buy the DVDs. I only buy DVDs if the extra material is good, or there doesn't seem to be much hope for a TV showing.
As for your point of the English version of the songs not being the same, the original would be on the DVD regardless. The English dialouge is never exactly the same, either. I'm just saying that it would be nice for the original version to have the original opening, and the not-so-accurate English version to have a not-so-accurate English opening. I don't think that that is much to ask.
Stupid Sony. So, you're saying you won't buy the DVDs because they only have the TV sized versions of the songs and don't have an English dub of the songs, correct? If that's the case, that's a poor excuse. Funi is the only company, that I know of, that still dubs the opening and ending themes of the animes they license.
I'm sure in due time FMA's OSTs will be released here. L'Arc-En-Ciel, the group take sings 'Ready Steady Go!!', have released an album stateside that contains the second OP and with vocals and karaoke. The karaoke version is only on the US release, not the Japanese release. And I don't blame Sony for not wanting their product dubbed, it's their product and their choice.
If AS does ever get FMA...it would be a shame if they cut the opening song. I don't even like Rock and I pump it up each episode.
Killtacular
09-29-2004, 06:07 PM
FUNFlack said that L'Arc-En-Ciel "is singing" Ready Steady Go for FMA on Adult Swim. The use of the words "is singing" sounds like, and it's such a poorly worded sentence that assumptions are hard to draw, that L'Arc-En-Ceil IS performing an English version of the song (themselves). Otherwise, why would he use a present tense verb? Present tense indicates that they would be in the studio as we speak, recording English lyrics. But maybe that's reading too far into it.
MrBananagrabber
09-29-2004, 07:17 PM
FUNFlack said that L'Arc-En-Ciel "is singing" Ready Steady Go for FMA on Adult Swim. The use of the words "is singing" sounds like, and it's such a poorly worded sentence that assumptions are hard to draw, that L'Arc-En-Ceil IS performing an English version of the song (themselves). Otherwise, why would he use a present tense verb? Present tense indicates that they would be in the studio as we speak, recording English lyrics. But maybe that's reading too far into it.
I doubt that. I think they're trying to push their Smile CD, that's the vibe I got from their concert at Otakon and the flyers being handed out. Plus, they sang Ready Steady Go in Japanese, played it with the opening theme movie, in Japanese. If they were doing a special, brand new English version, I would think they'd get it done by the time of their concert in America, and get it on CD.
Even so, I'd prefer a song in Japanese than one in Engrish (then again, Ready Steady Go does have a bit of that). I like when anime studios dub songs, I think Funimation does a particularly good job with it. It's too bad FMA's won't be. I would have liked to hear the rest of Kenshin's songs in English, but I guess Sony really wants people to buy CDs for the Japanese artists.
Kouji Tamino
09-29-2004, 07:40 PM
So, you're saying you won't buy the DVDs because they only have the TV sized versions of the songs and don't have an English dub of the songs, correct? If that's the case, that's a poor excuse. Funi is the only company, that I know of, that still dubs the opening and ending themes of the animes they license.
I'm sure in due time FMA's OSTs will be released here. L'Arc-En-Ciel, the group take sings 'Ready Steady Go!!', have released an album stateside that contains the second OP and with vocals and karaoke. The karaoke version is only on the US release, not the Japanese release. And I don't blame Sony for not wanting their product dubbed, it's their product and their choice.
Weeelll... Since FMA is going to be on televison, there isn't really a need for me to buy the DVD's. If there were English songs, that might be an extra incentive to buy them. Maybe in a few years, when it's no longer on TV, but right now there is no reason for the series to be on my 'buy right now' list.
Youko Recca
09-29-2004, 07:49 PM
Okay, have fun. Now that that's out of the way....
How long is the last episode? Hour-long or regular length.
Bandit
09-29-2004, 09:05 PM
Okay, have fun. Now that that's out of the way....
How long is the last episode? Hour-long or regular length.
it's (episode 51) airing an half hour earlier than normal. so it's likely they're just showing an hour-long conclusion.
Swordfish_II
09-29-2004, 09:20 PM
How long is the last episode? Hour-long or regular length.
Looking at the schedule on TBS's page, it's airing from 1730 (5:30) to 1800 (6:00).
Bandit
09-29-2004, 11:21 PM
Looking at the schedule on TBS's page, it's airing from 1730 (5:30) to 1800 (6:00).
link to said page?
Riza Hawkeye
09-30-2004, 01:21 AM
link to said page? This (http://mbs.jp/timetable/) is the schedule page, Bandit.
Episode 51 will be 24 minutes, to be technical. I want to see how they are going to wrap it all up in that time, especially after episode 50. I was left speechless after watching that episode, but it's still so exciting to see how it's all going to end; the movie not with standing.
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