C&C - Inuyasha - "Onigumos Memory Restored" [8/21]

[The Landstander]

Yeah!

[bluedeucedodge]

My first episode of Inuyasha. I hope it is good.

[Youko Recca]

Ugh, damn Naraku incarnations. The spider marks on their back are way too much like the "badges" of the Genei Ryodan, except Ubo would own all these incarnations himself. Besides that thing that's constantly irking me for some reason, this will hopefully turn out good.

[PaQ]

Jeez.. I can see why Inuyasha gets irritated with Kagome.. He's being overly cautious, so she chooses this time to not listen to him..

And too much bare Muso... Let his clothes replicate too or whatever. :shrug:

[Umino]

I'm curious as to why Muso is so odd. Why didn't he have a face? Why don'st he have any memories?

It feels odd watching Inuyasha, since I recently got the Dead Like Me boxset, and Richard Cox was in a deleted scene.

Yes I'm a werido.

[randi]

Was the Naraku being going to grope Kagome or something. Yes! Kill him with teh Wind Scar. When Kikyo was talking to the monk she sounded like she didn't care. He chained Kagura up. I thought he'd just keep a close eye on her or something. Did they alter his butt crack or did they make it that just because...not that I care. Its just a question. Heh,used "yo" again. Was she pretending to not know the Inu human secret or did she know and not tell Naraku. I thought Kagome already knew where it all began,with the mummy person and all. Also why doesn't Inuyasha still smell Kagome's scent in the air. Well,maybe he does smell her scent in the air...Whatever. Whoa,whats with Naraku's funky hand. Maybe since the wind scar doesn't work maybe the Black Lash wave will...Well,Inu has been like stabed. Sad...Anyway...

:tom: Thank You and Good Night

[Wounded_Dragon]

Did Kagome suddenly forget how to shoot her holy arrows? Seemed like just the thing to try, but she just stood there like a doofus.

[RD!]

If I remember correctly from when I used to be an avid watcher, Inu Yasha can kill a hundred demons with a single stroke of his sword. Why can't he just kill the six bees that follow every single villian around and Miroku can just do the only thing he's really able to do?

[Rabi~en~Rose]

well that was my first time watching inuyasha in months and things are exactly the same as before. Muso is such a stupid name why not just call him Onigumo :confused: does anyone else find regenerating enemy baddies completely boring? its just dumb same as Naraku :( if he had killer Kikyo then finally something would have changed but no no no its the same old so maybe I'll check back in in a few more months

also when did this show get new bumps? they're less bad then the first ones it had :)

[JetMaster5]

Finally, something interesting happens. We get to see Onigumo's soul conversing with Inuyasha and his gang. It's annoying how Onigumo kept on saying "This woman shall be mine" when it's obvious he's got nothing between his legs.


If I remember correctly from when I used to be an avid watcher, Inu Yasha can kill a hundred demons with a single stroke of his sword. Why can't he just kill the six bees that follow every single villian around and Miroku can just do the only thing he's really able to do?
It wouldn't matter if Inuyasha kills those 6 bees. More bees would just go and instantly replace them.

[Captain Zechs]

I think they make to much of a deal about some dumb things when they could just gety on with the series.I have seen spoilers they havent even made a dent in the whole series.But it should get good, once Seshomaru gets in more and rin...RIN ROCKS!!!

[shogunthethird]

scene from next episode

Muso: so you're Naraku... the one who spawned me....WHERE THE HELL IS MY SHOGUN AND TWO SAMURAI!? *angrily points downward*

[Gruntling]

Like a lot of previous episodes, the dialogue and action seemed uninspired to me. It's something that's been lacking more so recently in my opinion. For example, Miroku while instead of fighting during a confrontation, explains everything that we already know or can figure out. He doesn't do anything else, but instead gives pointless jabber. Nonetheless, the story and plot are still fairly interesting.

I give Onigumo's Memory Restored a B.

[Kesh]

Oh crap.

So, Onigumo is the true heart of Naraku's power. To be blunt, it sounds like Naraku derives all his power from Onigumo.

It looks like we have two possibilities soon: either Naraku re-absorbs Onigumo, and restores himself to power.

Or, Onigumo, the man who sold his soul for demonic power, will absorb Naraku. And all the demonic power he was promised finally comes to him. :eek:

[Tienshin]

Awww, Inuyasha...do I detect a bit of jealousy?

I enjoyed this episode. We got see Naruku back in action as well as a glimpse of what he was trying to accomplish by ridding himself of Onigumo. Kikyo loves to hold Naruku's inability to effectively fight her due to Onigumo over him. It's her trump card. That's why she should take his ominous threat to her as he retreated to the forest very seriously. From the look on her face, that seems to be the case.

As for Onigumo/Muso he is an interesting character as he literally is the keystone to the entire drama that Inu and Co. currently face. Shame that his motivation is to obtain Kagome. Oh well, he too will have the pleasure of facing Naruku soon enough.

Good episode overall.

[kaine23]

Is this what eventually leads up to Naraku being reborn on that mountain? (I forget half the names, sorry)

[True Noir]

Great episode. Finally, I was waiting this to happen: Inuyasha vs. Onigumo

I do have to wonder though, why would Naruku want to reabsorb Onigumo just after he spit him out? Also, without Onigumo soul in him, is he still a half demon?

Again with the slang Kagura?

Overall: A

[Tienshin]

Is this what eventually leads up to Naraku being reborn on that mountain? (I forget half the names, sorry)

No, that is a direct result of Inuyasha and Sesshomaru nearly destroying him. But the outcome of Naruku's transformation acheives the desired result of ridding himself of Onigumo.

:anime:

[TsuiTsui]

I thought this episode was OK. I knew Muso wouldn't be defeated that easily due the regeneration concept so frequently used in DBZ. I'm more interested to see the drama unfold in next week's episode between Naraku, Onigumo/Muso, Kikyo, Kagome, and Inuyasha.

[Will Sturnick]

Is this what eventually leads up to Naraku being reborn on that mountain? (I forget half the names, sorry)Kinda. The whole scuffle with Inu & Sesshy in 80/81 is was sends him to Hakurei. He goes to Hakurei so he become stronger (since he not only did he not absorb Sesshy like he wanted, Inuyasha almost killed him with Red Tetsusaiga) and while he's at it, he completely removed Onigumo from his system. Which if I recall correctly, Onigumo is those lumps of flesh that the group finds. Thus making him able to complete his true desire.

[Patches]

Kinda. The whole scuffle with Inu & Sesshy in 80/81 is was sends him to Hakurei. He goes to Hakurei so he become stronger (since he not only did he not absorb Sesshy like he wanted, Inuyasha almost killed him with Red Tetsusaiga) and while he's at it, he completely removed Onigumo from his system. Which if I recall correctly, Onigumo is those lumps of flesh that the group finds. Thus making him able to complete his true desire. Actually, I think Musou is more like Hakudoushi 1.0 or something. Naraku spits out Onigumo's heart, then realizes, "Oh, crap, he's my HEART, and if he dies, I die!", so reabsorbs him. Then at Mt. Hakurei, Naraku gives birth to the baby, which is also his heart, but is completely detached from him (thus he was actually able to "kill" Kikyou that time). However, even though his human heart is now completely detached from him, apparently he can still be killed if the heart is destroyed (at least... that's what everyone in the series seems to ASSUME at this point. I wouldn't be at all surprised if they do manage to strike down the baby, only to have Naraku go, "Ha ha. Psych."

And why is it that the carriers for Naraku's heart have an obsession with wandering around au naturale? And unlike Musou, Mouryoumaru is... endowed. -_-* (Maybe THAT'S why the anime is ending where it is now. The animators saw those chapters and were like, "Crap, we can't show THAT on TV!")

[Timmay]

If you don't want to ruin 50-80 episodes worth of information, do not read those spoilers, seriously.

[Rabi~en~Rose]

If you don't want to ruin 50-80 episodes worth of information, do not read those spoilers, seriously.

I read them because I just don't care :) in a good series that would be 5-12 episodes worth of information :)

[Happy]

God this episode was just too predictable. I thought of the outcome of each seen before it actually happened. Also I HATE those insects, they make Miroku useless and overall decrease my enjoyment of the show. Also Sango could have done more. (Kilala too) D-

[Nftnat]

I too wondered if Inu's going to use the Backlash Wave. So? Is he?

Looks like next week will be a Three Way Dance, as they used to call it in ECW. Inu vs. Naraku vs. Musou / Onigumo.

He calls himself Musou because that was the name of monk whose face he now wears. His face was burned off in that fire in the cave. And Naraku made him forget, just like he (Naraku) sought to keep his (Onigumo's) personality completely and permanently submerged.

I'm not sure why it is that while Onigumo desires Kikyo, Naraku wants to kill her. I mean, Kikyo was why Onigumo set all those evil machinations in motion, with the jewel and all.

Am I the only one willing to cut Kikyo any slack here? I mean, sure, she wants to steal Kagome's soul and take InuYasha to Hell with her, but she also has Naraku for a mortal enemy and it seems that she's doing as much good as she can wherever she goes. There's many a being who owe their lives to her.

Inu was too preoccupied to sniff for Kagome.

It would be good if the whole gang ganged up on a foe one of these times. Kagome's arrows, Inu's Tetsusaiga, Sango's abilities, Miroku's strengths (remember Kaijinbo?), even Shippocould contribute something. I'm not sure what, but something.

[Commie Hamster]

I really want to be spoiled on this kind of off-topic question. Does Kikyo ever die? Really die, as in CAN'T COME BACK die?

[Nftnat]

This is anime you're talking about; what do you expect? Seriously, is eternal resurrections limited to DB-whatever? She did die before.

Actually, I have found out from a certain site, but I'm not telling.

[Zero Kagayaki]

It was ok episode

[shogunthethird]

I consider Kikyo to be a classic example of chaotic neutral, she's only considered evil because of the soul-stealing and wanting to kill the main characters, if I know my anime cliches, she'll reveal some deeply hidden truth to Kagome and/or try to save her and sacrifice her "life" in the process, call it the Piccolo paradox

[Commie Hamster]

This is anime you're talking about; what do you expect? Seriously, is eternal resurrections limited to DB-whatever? She did die before.

Actually, I have found out from a certain site, but I'm not telling.I know she's died before :rolleyes:

I don't read the manga and was wondering if she'd ever definitively die, as I've so often hoped.

[Nia]

I just love his plan to rid himself of Onigumo. That's all I can say about him -- just genius.

BTW, 2 things: I agree with the guy who said Muso shouldn't brag being anatomically incorrect. And I shouldn't have read those spoilers knowing I wanted an element of suspense...but they're so tempting! ;)

[Patches]

I don't read the manga and was wondering if she'd ever definitively die, as I've so often hoped.Not yet.

Anyway, as for this week's episode, have I ever mentioned that I love Paul Dobson? "I will not kill you. I will break you." Ah, he is one of the great things about the dub. Him and Kirby Morrow (who actually wasn't quite as up-to-par today as he usually is).

Next time on Inuyasha: Revenge of the Mud-pants and Kinky Baboon Mansex

[Team Inuyasha]

That I know it was a good episodes but why?why?why? naraku can't kill kikyo because she is really getting under my nearves
Naraku: "considered yourself lucky" :yawn: the true she was lucky
so Naraku still have a little peaces of onigumo's heart deasapointhing cause i was holping him to kill kikyo
why Kagome didn't listen to Inuyasha ? because she isn't doing nothing she's running and say "I'm not giving up without a fight pal " :shrug: and she's doing nothing ,poor kagura seem likes she was in prison and now she is free but still with naraku order (Kagura:he isn't under naraku order ? how can muso is one of naraku incarnations and will free)
that muso/onigumo is really freaking me out :eek: what' up with his body , Inuyasha throwing wind scar and still regenerated and at the end a scorpion body whoao :eek: so yeah it was a pretty good episode.
I can't wait for next week;)

[Will Sturnick]

Actually, I think Musou is more like Hakudoushi 1.0 or something. Naraku spits out Onigumo's heart, then realizes, "Oh, crap, he's my HEART, and if he dies, I die!", so reabsorbs him. Then at Mt. Hakurei, Naraku gives birth to the baby, which is also his heart, but is completely detached from him (thus he was actually able to "kill" Kikyou that time). However, even though his human heart is now completely detached from him, apparently he can still be killed if the heart is destroyed (at least... that's what everyone in the series seems to ASSUME at this point. I wouldn't be at all surprised if they do manage to strike down the baby, only to have Naraku go, "Ha ha. Psych." The way I interpreted the whole reabsorbtion, is that Naraku just couldn't spit out his Onigumo that easily. So perhaps he spit out something he needed and/or he just didn't get all of Onigumo out. Both, I feel, can explain his failed attempt on Kikyo. Him getting rid of too much might explain the odd arm action, and removing too little, would make it so he still could not bring himself to do it mentally. Or perhaps a combination of the both, he couldn't bring himself to do it, so his body reacted in that arm way.

I don't know if Naraku's figured out the whole heart deal at this point. Though assuming he had, it would explain the Saimyoushou stalkers. That or he was just keeping tabs on Onigumo just in case he still needed him. His actions in 80/81, don't seem to relfect him knowing that. I mean, sure he's absorbing Sesshy, but that wouldn't accomplish anything in regards of his Kikyo Lovin' Onigumo heart.

On a semi-related note, re-watching 71 shows how close Inuyasha got to getting Naraku and didn't even realize he almost had it.

The way I interpret the whole heart this is that, when they destroy it, Naraku will still be around, just no longer invulnerable. So he can no longer pull off his post-Tetsusaiga attack regenerations. Or at least that's how I picture Rumiko handling it. Granted, it kinda goes against the heart rule that Rumiko put forth with Kagura.

Though knowing Rumiko, I wouldn't be surprised if the "Psyche!" idea indeed occurs. Since she seems to love dragging this out. Though, that would be kinda anti-climactic. And Naraku doesn't have much of a choice from that point then to actually do the dirty work himself. Considering that only one (maybe two, I forget how loyal Goshinki was) of his detachments have been loyal to him. Though he might just do a Shichinintai-type deal again. But now I'm just rambling.




I read them because I just don't care :) in a good series that would be 5-12 episodes worth of information :)
Keep in mind those spoilers did leave a chunk of what happened out. So don't think what's going on in those boxes is everything between here and then. Like the anime-only filler episodes, the Shichinintai arc, etc.

[PaQ]

This episode was ok, but really Kagome's ignorance of danger really got to me in this episode.. You'd think the one time Inuyasha is overly cautious, she'd take heed and go back to her time, but no, she doesn't trust his instincts and goes with Kaede. :rolleyes:

So Muso is mostly Onigumo, which I think was hinted at so badly, we all knew before this episode.. but Naraku still has some left in him.. That was cool when he tried to choke Kikyo, and had that aftereffect. I'm enjoying how Kagura is fascinated with the fact that Muso is not under Naraku's control.. I'm interested to see next week, since the previews were intriguing.

"Onigumos Memory Restored" gets a C+.

[tenken]

I really want to be spoiled on this kind of off-topic question. Does Kikyo ever die? Really die, as in CAN'T COME BACK die?
Eventually.

Mm. Perhaps Kagura uses "yo" a lot because simply because the translators were too lazy to find a better substitute in English slang (yo means "hello" or something along those lines in Japanese...).

As for the episode... eh, it's okay. The battle wasn't all that interesting, unfortunately, and a lot of the other stuff was predictable. Ah well. Next week's might hold some surprises.

[Pimmelmann]

Yes, the episode was something of a shrug. Speaking as a guy who'd run like heck from a regenerating baddie as soon as it became obvious, everyone's tendency to stand around and comment about the action in true and familiar Inuyasha style grows harder and harder to take. Kagome did indeed stand around like a doofus...shucks, Kaede is more hard-charging than she is in this one. However, I always really enjoy Kikyo's English VA, and even a few lines in a given episode are a treat.

As a sidelong comment on last week's, I was not turned off by Kagura's method of...birth, and the "yo" thing is growing on me, though it's amusing to me that the Japanese VA seems more comfortable delivering it than her dub counterpart.

[Beat]

Naraku was about 5 seconds from making Inu-Yasha a good show. But he let Kikyo live.:mad:

[Will Sturnick]

Naraku was about 5 seconds from making Inu-Yasha a good show. But he let Kikyo live.:mad:
Using "let" there implies he decided to keep her alive as an act of mercy. He was physically or mentally unable to do so, thus him leaving her alive because he had no other option.

[ArboACHG]

Eventually.

Mm. Perhaps Kagura uses "yo" a lot because simply because the translators were too lazy to find a better substitute in English slang (yo means "hello" or something along those lines in Japanese...).

As for the episode... eh, it's okay. The battle wasn't all that interesting, unfortunately, and a lot of the other stuff was predictable. Ah well. Next week's might hold some surprises. She infact does say "yo" a number of times in the original, it's not just a shoddy English translation.