I wonder how the mouth works on Batman Beyonds Mask and other practical questions ?

[Stupendous Man]

Am I getting to picky , because Ive always wondered about the
mask on Batman Beyond ?

I know this is nit-picky but hows that work?

The mouth on the mask moved ... you could see teeth.

Was it a false front? meaning that wasnt really his mouth
but the mask simulated the movements his mouth
was making under the mask ?

Was the mask like an adhesive ? Did the mask stick to his face and lips?

Its buggin me .

**

While were at it .. its been said that Spidermans stick powers
dont work thru shoes ...buy they do through socks and
thin materials.

Does that mean Spidermans boots are more like socks without
soles? Must hurt when he steps on rocks and stuff .

* *

Clark Kent must never wear white business shirts ...
cause the blue and red would bleed right thru and
everyone would see his spandex beneath his clothes.


Whats more what does this imply about Kryptonians and
sweat glands? Doesnt he get warm in the summer w all
those clothes on? How does he pee with the spandex
beneath his pants?

**

[Kal-el]

Spirit, those are questions that I've always wondered about too. I've always wondered how the eyes move on both TNBA and BB, in addition to the mouth on BB.
The comment about Supes in interesting too. I guess he could wear short sleeve shirts either. And wouldn't it be uncomfortable stuffing that cape in there somewhere? And what happens to his clothes? Where does he put them? Are there phone booths all over Metropolis with piles of clothes in them? And his shirts...he often rips them open, showing the 'S.' Sure it's dramatic, but what about all the buttons? Clark must have a lot of new clothes. At least we know Spiderman makes a webbing baggie for his stuff.
I'm wondering if Clark has super control of his sweat glands, or maybe he doesn't sweat? The peeing thing is strange too. Even at super speed it would take him awhile to get himself "prepared" to tinkle. By then it could be too late.

[Stupendous Man]

Thank God you agree Kal... I thought It was just me.

Id be interested if anyone else has questions of this nature ..
might be a fun thread.

~

You know what Ive always thought ?

The Batmobile is probably the biggest clue to
uncovering Batmans Identity .

I mean Spiderman could practically be anyone..
rich poor , black white .

But Bats ...you know some facts right off the bat .

A - He lives in or around gotham.

B- hes a white male in his late 20s to late 30's .

C- His height 6 foot something. Excellent physical
condition.

now those three things alone allow you to narrow the
Gotham population enough to get some suspects.

You throw in the Batmobile ...its a dead give away.
The Batmobile's a custom made car.
Its not like its a suped up Honda.

Who could afford to make a custom made car?
Maybee a mechanic posssibly.

Throw in the bat jet ...now you know the guys loaded
right ?

And how come every sap knows about the existence
of the Batcave?

How many caves could there be in the Gotham area?

Bats 'wonderfull toys' really give his secret Identity
right away.

Whose with me on this?

* * *

Howd Bruce get all that stuff into the cave anyway ?
UPS?

That giant mainframe and lab equipment .. how do you
smuggle all that stuff in unnoticed.

and the Giant Dinsaur and Giant Penny ...I think that
would catch peoples eye on the Gotham Express Way
heading to wayne maner.

* * *

When did Batman fight a dinosaur by the way ?

So many questions ....

[Toddman]

Hmmm...yeah, that whole Batcave thing raises a few questions. Did just Bruce and Alfred intall all of that equipment? Was Bruce out fighting crime and it Alfred had to do it all himself? I guess maybe they didn't have to run power directly into the cave, they could have just used a really long extension cord and run it up to the house. They explained the design and maintenance of the Batmobile in "The Mechanic", but what about the Batplane and the Batboat? Did Batman come to the aid of a black-listed ship builder and aeronautical engineer too?

And why the hell is Lois Lane's bed so HUGE? I'm thinking of the scene in "World's Finest" when Bruce and Superman take off for their last showdown w/Lex and The Joker. She's sitting there on the end of her bed and it must be 20 feet long!!! What size matress is THAT?

A possible explanation for Superman being too hot wearing two sets of clothes, though... Since Superman can fly into the heart of the sun and come through the other side relatively unharmed, a hot summer day might not be substantial enough for him to break a sweat.

Toddman

[Stupendous Man]

Good points Todd ..

Im thinking the extension cord is impractical .
Theyve probably installed their own power
genorator in the cave.

Wouldnt do to have to explain to the
Electric company why Bruce uses so much
electricity.

As for the size of Lois's Bed ... lets face facts :
Lois is a slut. She probably has guys coming
in and out of that apartment all the time before
she hooked up with Clark.

* * *

I try to forget about episodes where Superman flys
through a freakin star !!!!!!
A freakin star for heavens sake !!!!!!!!!

Why are they compelled to make superman so
damn powerfull ...arent the adventures of a man
who can fly and bend steal w his bare hands enough
for you people.

wheres the drama ?
whose gonna pose a challenge to a man who flys thru
the freakin sun ( a scientific impossibility mind you ,
the couldnt just have had him fly on the surface ...or imerse
himself in it ...he had to fly right thru the damn thing !!)

How can they sell us issued of Supes vs Toyman after
that.

Toyman vs a Guy who can fly thru a freakin sun !!
Heres my 2 bucks DC I have to know how that battle
turns out !

GRRRR!

[Bruce Wayne]

Well, I was reading about your rant about Superman going through the sun, I just remembered something I learned in science clase. If it is possible to reach the sun, a space ship can fly straight through it because its particles are so far apart. That's why the Man of Steel can go through it! And he flys rather quick to, so that helps.

And as for Batman, I would wonder why no one suspects any rich billionare to be Batman.. hmmm

[Failure]

I'd say that the fact we have spandexed super-heroes going around saving cities and flying through stars and stuff, you're gonna have to suspend some disbelief regarding the more mundane logistics. But this is a really entertaining thread. I haven't a clue how the heck some of that stuff makes sense. All of it's pretty funny if you think about it. I can hear the electric company manager saying something like, "yeah, this Bruce Wayne guy, he takes up a quarter of Gotham's electricity. It's like he's lighting up a cave or something."

[Stupendous Man]

The particles are far apart ..comparitively ...theyre not so
far apart you can drive a bus throught them !

Are you bieng sarcastic about why gothamites dont suspect
billionares to be vigalantes?

Billionares get bored and do odd things to amuse themselve ..
didnt you see the THOMAS CROWN AFFAIR? : )

If you decided to fight crime today would you be able to
afford a jet in your arsenal?

[DR. BELCH]

(1) Re: electricity and the Batcave--power lines run on direct current (DC); batteries on alternating (AC). So Batman's equipment might not bang the electric company's needles too much if he runs them on AC through a converter.

(2) K said on Men in Black that "out-of-town friends" taught him to control his body temperature. Superman, being alien, probably knows similar techniques. As for relieving himself, perhaps he wears those special astronaut diapers under his suit.

(3) Lois, like me, is a big tosser-and-turner who took a couple of nasty falls off a regular size bed, so she paid for an extra large queen-size. I'd buy a big king-size myself if I had the space and the money. My old mattress is small and there's a loose spring that cuts the blazes out of me if I roll over on it wrong.

(4) Superman is a man above all else. He desires, despite his immense power, to be normal. His greatest fear is hurting/endangering his loved ones. In that he is his own worst foe.

(5) I imagine Spiderman's boots are similar to slipper-socks. As to why stepping on rocks and sharp objects don't hurt--he has the proportionate strength of a spider, and his skin's pretty tough. So it takes more than a pebble to slow down ol' web-head.

[Stupendous Man]

Funny Failure ! : )

However , while im all for suspension of disbelief
it has to be targeted.

I will suspend disbelief that a man will dress like a bat
and fight crime ....but then after that everything else should
obey the laws of nature and common sense.

Thats how you get good stories.

If nothing were logical , and you never had to worry about
common sense then why would you read the stories ?
Wheres the suspense or drama ..comics would be like
Salvadore Dali paintings.

Total Chaos !

[Stupendous Man]

We need more posters like Belch ...
people who think thru problems .
Good work Belch .. even though your mostly
wrong . : )

The Spiderman slipper socks theory youve
proposed works for me !
I am adopting it as official .
I will sleep better at night regarding this issue.

Now if you could explain what he uses as the
glass on his mask?

Also ...are all superheroes now using the white
glass on their masks.

Batman uses glass on his mask to cover his eyes
doesnt he . Id hate to think that you see his eyeballs
through his mask.

Plus if they did ...another clue to discovering
his identity.

6foot tall
incredibly wealthy
white male
grey eyes.

This would be too easy .. the New York Post would
have Batman for dinner . Hed be easier to find than
Bin Ladden.

Hey Think Bin Ladden has a giant penny and dinosaur in
his cave too?

[Kal-el]

LOL! Toyman doesn't stack up too well to a hero that can fly through a star.
Heroes are weird though. Superman can have a giant crane fall on him, push a giant asteroid to alter it's orbit, race against Flash around the world several times (and find the time to save a sinking oil tanker), smash a giant alient troop carrier/tank to rubble, and use his heat vision to destroy buildings (albeit when he was brainwashed and working for Darkseid), but drill a few holes in the ocean floor and he's tired. I understand the idea of a depowered Supes, but can it least be consistent? Then there's Batman. In "World's Finest" he had a verticle jump of like 15 feet! And when he fights, his punches do great damage, while Superman, with all his strength, seems to have his punches graze off of opponents. Why? Poor technique on Supes part? Maybe. I figure, I he can punch through a steel door that's like a foot thick, one punch at even half power would go RIGHT THROUGH something/someone made up of flesh and blood.
With Lois being a slut...could be. But I just can't think of her that way. I always thought of her as an uptight, spoiled, gorgeous women that was too good for normal men (hence the Superman attraction).
The bat cave is another story. I could see Bruce setting up a seperate power source for the cave, and he probably has an incredibly fast internet connection that NEVER crashes or freezes on him.
Good point about the abundance (or lackthereof) of caves around Gothom. What, is Gothom some kind of huge city in the middle of a bunch of caves and mountains? I don't think so. How hard would it be to just follow the batmobile back to the cave? And the batplane...hello! Radar! That, unless Bruce has stealthafied it somehow.
There is just so much to discuss here...

[Stupendous Man]

Funny you should mention technique.

I dont think superman has any fighting technique
whatsoever.

Superman relys solely on strength and the reliance
that hes more powerfull than his opponents.

You think Clark ever took a Judo class? Dont think so.

Thats why Supes is always at a loss when fighting
someone at or near his powerlevel.
Hes a horrible fighter.

Look at the DOOMSDAY fight ...he got his butt handed to
him. If only hed learned a few drop kicks and jabs he
might have held his own.

If Supes were ever depowered how long do you think
hed last in the ring with Batman ? 5 seconds.

I hate to referrence the Superman Movies , but hell ..
Superman II ..loses his powers , got his butt handed to
him by a truck driver 20 years older than him.

Face it fanboys ... Supermans a sissy girl.

[Bruce Wayne]

Actually, according to my teacher, we could drive a space shuttle through the sun if we could go faster than light, and Superman can go pretty fast. *shrug* who knows.

No, i didnt see that movie. But comeon, no one knows how Batman gets all that stuff. Most other heroes from Earth cant get that stuff. But Bat can. Either he has government funding or very very wealthy.

[Stupendous Man]

Brucee ... I think your teacher smoking something .

* *

Hey whose the number two guy behind
Mr. CanFlyStraightThruTheSunSuperGuy?

Is it Wonder Woman or Captain Marvel (Shazam for you
newbies) ?

I think Wonder Woman could beat Shazam.

***

Hey , how does Wonder Woman shave her legs?
She doesnt even have heat vision !!

[DR. BELCH]

The Spirit:
Now if you could explain what he uses as the
glass on his mask?
Actually, it's wire mesh, which looks transparent because of all the microscopic holes. I don't know if it's been noted, but the new Spidermovie coming out isn't his first. Besides his Electric Company sketches, there was one made some years back about rabid antinuke college students who stole some radioactive substances and built a working atomic bomb just to prove it could be done terrorists--then some actual terrorists stole it! I recall the actor's mask had mesh in the eyeholes--looked like something I'd use in my kitchen to strain browned beef.
As for Batman's eyes--Adam West's eyes were visible in his cowl, as were Keaton's, Kilmer's, and that fellow from E.R.'s. The thing is, in the Shumacher film "Batman" wore black eye makeup. It was supposed to look shadowy and blend in with the mask, but I thought it made him look like either a failed drag queen or someone who got two black eyes in a fight.
What I always thought was that someone could easily get a skin/hair sample from Robin, being bareheaded and showing skin, and trace the DNA to Dick Greyson/Tim Drake.

Maybe the dinosaur and the coin were delivered in pieces, like exercise equipment.

Since Spiderman's been mentioned, I guess it'd be all right to get other Marvel characters into it. I'm just curious as to how the Evolution series will handle Eric Magnus Lensherr. In one continuity he served in WWII, met fellow medical officer Charles, and witnessed the horrors of war (which fueled his hatred of mankind); in another he was a boy in one of Hitler's camps. In another concurrent story his wife left him after he used his powers to save her from drowning, which also inspired his hatred for man...and she was pregnant with twins (Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver) but didn't know it until later.
So will they use any of this or will they write a whole new origin of Magnus? Since it is in modern continuity, and being a soldier in the forties would make Magneto in his eighties, they may juggle continuities and have Xavier and Magnus have served in Nam instead. Or they may cut the military angle entirely and focus on his love of Magda being what changed him--i.e. she walked out on him/died somehow. Quicksilver has appeared but it hasn't been acknowledged that Magneto's his dad--in this version he'd have to have been born in 1984 or '85 to be a 16-year-old.

I suppose both Batman and Bin Laden could be traced by their medical records. Batman must get patched up every other day....and Bin Laden, I hear, has kidney stones. Surely their bills have to be sent somewhere, be it a post office box in Queens or some address in Sweden....

[batE]

Originally posted by The Spirit


The Batmobile is probably the biggest clue to
uncovering Batmans Identity .

I mean Spiderman could practically be anyone..
rich poor , black white .

But Bats ...you know some facts right off the bat .

A - He lives in or around gotham.

B- hes a white male in his late 20s to late 30's .

C- His height 6 foot something. Excellent physical
condition.



I'm with you with all except the race thing -- for BB anyway. In BTAS obviously all the costumed crusaders were caucasian or, at least, light-skinned, and you could tell that because their masks never covered the entire face.

But in BB, Terry's entire body is covered. There's no skin gshowing anywhere . . . so how could they tell he is white? I'm sure I'm missing something . . please lead me out of the darkness :)


I've always wondered how the gadgets work in the first place. For example, how does he get the wings to pop out? How does he get the rockets to fire? Does he press a button on the utility belt? I've never seen him do anything with the belt except activate the camoflage. How about the Batarangs? Does he squeeze his hand in such a way that they pop out?

It boggles the mind.


batE

[Kal-el]

Originally posted by The Spirit

This would be too easy .. the New York Post would
have Batman for dinner . Hed be easier to find than
Bin Ladden.

Hey Think Bin Ladden has a giant penny and dinosaur in
his cave too?

I bet Bin Laden has a statue of liberty replica, an Amercian made car, a Yankees pennant, a bunch of apple pies, a big poster of Michael Jordan, and an American flag in his cave...all symbols of what he hates...

"Either he has government funding or very very wealthy."-Bruce Wayne

Would this be like superhero financial aid? Maybe superheros get mailings from that Matthew Lesko guy with all the question marks on his clothes and the books on government monies. There's got to be one or two in thefor superheroes.

Damn! Too slow. Must post...faster...

[Kal-el]

Originally posted by batE



I've always wondered how the gadgets work in the first place. For example, how does he get the wings to pop out? How does he get the rockets to fire? Does he press a button on the utility belt? I've never seen him do anything with the belt except activate the camoflage. How about the Batarangs? Does he squeeze his hand in such a way that they pop out?

It boggles the mind.


batE

Maybe he squeezes his ( ! )cheeks together once for the boot jets, twice for the batarangs, three times for the wings...wait...or is is once for the batarangs and twice for the jets. Confusing those could be embarrassing.

[Stupendous Man]

I settle the whole boot rockets and wings situation
in this manner....

Technology.

I think the mask has sensors attuned to the owners
brain-waves.

He thinks it, it happens .

I actually think they addressed this in an actual episode.

* * *

However the moving mouth ... a complete mystery still !

[Kal-el]

That does make sense, in a way.
I think it's amazing that the suit is one size fits all. Bruce is bigger than Terry, but the suit fits Terry just fine. There's no sagging or bunching.
Actually, if there are sensors that pick up the brain waves of the suits wearer to activate its functions, why not have the mask itself be flexible, yet light, cool, and comfortable, with sensor mechanisms able to pick up and identify the electrical signals sent to the facial muscles and allow the mask to move in conjunction with the facial muscles, which enables the mouth to move (or mimics the movements of the wearers mouth). Plausible???

Hows about that for a run-on sentence!

[Stupendous Man]

That works for me if were assuming the mask is one piece
with a fake mouth that moves in accordance w Terrys
actual facial movements.

Somehow though, I dont see Bruce Wayne wasting
time on something so trivial.

Im almost inclined to blame the artists and just
forget that the mouth moves.

* * *

How does Wonder Woman Shave her legs ?
Its bothering me now.

Maybee Supes does it for her with his vision.

Do you think he gives her the Brazilian Wax?
Dont let Lois find out.

[Kal-el]

I'm sure the Amazons fashioned some kind of razor out of the metals in the power bracelets. That, or they were actually the ones that created the Nads Hair Removal System.

Well, Bruce made sure the eyes on his original cowel (sp?) moved in conjunction with his...maybe he likes a Batman that can show his emotion, or teeth, even when fully masked. He's a quirky guy.

[BLUE BEETLE]

I think every hero in the Batman universe has white lenses on there masks covering there eyes.

It must be some nifty piece of technology or glass patented by
Wayne Industries.

Im sure they have the lenses because Ive seen issues of Nigtwing where he taps his mask and it gets nightvision ...
he uses it to have an advantage over criminals in the dark.

Robin has them too.

You dont see the lenses in the Batman movie
because ..

a) The movies arent as valid as the comics.
b) There isnt any substance in the real word the mimics
the properties of the "white lenses" @ Copyright Wayne Industries