View Full Version : Talkback: "PPGStyle" (Episode 1 & 2)
CookieS
08-12-2004, 07:05 PM
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Aired August 3rd & on PPGSyle.com
The Powerpuff Girls' dreams take off in this series of ultra-short shorts featuring the Powerpuff Girls as teenagers. The new shorts are made to help promote the new clothing line for girls. The first episode aired on "Fridays" right before "Billy & Mandy". Another episode will air tomorrow.
If you missed episode 1, watch it HERE (http://www.cartoonnetwork.com/ppgstyle/bubblesvid.html) in Windows Media Player format.
Sorry for the huge delay in this talkback.
Nimbleness
08-12-2004, 08:33 PM
What the hell?
Um....yeah.
This is still just not right.
Behonkiss
08-12-2004, 10:01 PM
The animation is actually pretty neat, but everything else....So, they defeat the villains by dressing them up and then dance around?
I feel really sorry for Craig McCracken. Now that his creation is in other hands, they're doing THIS to it.
Aquadementia
08-12-2004, 10:20 PM
Was that the whole thing?
Does anyone know when these come on? Is it right before or after a PPG episode Friday?
That was just odd.
I guess we should be thinking of these as commercials, not episodes, although that water safety commercial was much more enjoyable.
And I thought I would repeat something I said in the other thread that puts it in perspective for me.
Theses shorts are to action cartoons the way a fashion show is to the legitimate theater.
CookieS
08-12-2004, 10:49 PM
These episodes are poorly done, I must say. Judging from the PPGStyle.com website, I thought it was going to be more Flash-looking, but I discover they're i 3-D cel shading (like SD Gundam). I can't help but think "yuck". Not only is the "fighting evil before bedtime" montra made into a mockery with cosmetics and shopping, but the actual animation of these characters in a third dimension makes them look like maroinettes controlled by a drunked puppeteer.
I get the idea that Cartoon Network mainly want to do this to sell the products, so no harm in their intention. What I don't like is that they've taken some of their best characters and turned them into Barbie dolls in order to do so. Could have the girls existed in their original form with slight product changes for a hip, graphic, stylistic change? I know they do that ALL the time on concert T-shirts, and it doesn't make sense that they'd actually MARKET these new changes instead of just selling them with the familiar and friendly images from TV. Instead we get these clunky ads that basically "sell out" the franchise.
Also, we have the model search contest at PPGStyle.com. Sure, its a fun idea to have little girls pulled from the audience to model their clothes, but not like this. Those little girls like "The Powerpuff Girls" not "PPGStyle". I'm surprised you didn't attempt to make the PPG's into princesses or some other ultra-fem conception of what women "want" to be.
I'll say this once Cartoon Network: You want to sell something, then make something new. Don't sell-out your charaters or stories for a buck. I'm really shocked you'd take something you care about so much and trudge it through the mud like this. Remaking a classic like "Judy Jetson" or "Penelope Pitstop" would have been more fun and allowed for more freedom. The characters are dated, and nastalgia is fun. Remaking a show with strong female leads and reducing them to fashion maivens goes against everything McCraken worked to create. They're no longer strong females, they're girls that care more about what they look like than what's inside.
Karl Olson
08-12-2004, 11:52 PM
Jon nailed it. It's a mockery, nay a travesty, that completely goes against what the show was about, all to make a buck. Congratulations CN, what was a "witty, sardonic" show and concept is now two steps away from being a "Sleeping Beauty Barbie" DVD. Ah well, maybe this'll flop and CN will finally put the show and franchise to rest, maybe after a DVD boxset or 4 first (you know, the good seasons.)
N310DA
08-13-2004, 12:39 AM
These episodes are poorly done, I must say. Judging from the PPGStyle.com website, I thought it was going to be more Flash-looking, but I discover they're i 3-D cel shading (like SD Gundam). I can't help but think "yuck". Not only is the "fighting evil before bedtime" montra made into a mockery with cosmetics and shopping, but the actual animation of these characters in a third dimension makes them look like maroinettes controlled by a drunked puppeteer.
I get the idea that Cartoon Network mainly want to do this to sell the products, so no harm in their intention. What I don't like is that they've taken some of their best characters and turned them into Barbie dolls in order to do so. Could have the girls existed in their original form with slight product changes for a hip, graphic, stylistic change? I know they do that ALL the time on concert T-shirts, and it doesn't make sense that they'd actually MARKET these new changes instead of just selling them with the familiar and friendly images from TV. Instead we get these clunky ads that basically "sell out" the franchise.
Also, we have the model search contest at PPGStyle.com. Sure, its a fun idea to have little girls pulled from the audience to model their clothes, but not like this. Those little girls like "The Powerpuff Girls" not "PPGStyle". I'm surprised you didn't attempt to make the PPG's into princesses or some other ultra-fem conception of what women "want" to be.
I'll say this once Cartoon Network: You want to sell something, then make something new. Don't sell-out your charaters or stories for a buck. I'm really shocked you'd take something you care about so much and trudge it through the mud like this. Remaking a classic like "Judy Jetson" or "Penelope Pitstop" would have been more fun and allowed for more freedom. The characters are dated, and nastalgia is fun. Remaking a show with strong female leads and reducing them to fashion maivens goes against everything McCraken worked to create. They're no longer strong females, they're girls that care more about what they look like than what's inside.Amen. Couldn't have said it better myself! I'd like to find out who's idea it was to start this junk in the first place!
Wanted
08-13-2004, 10:05 AM
That's very true. And of course, they're going to try to cash more off of the PPGs in DVD sales. Not a bad idea.
GohanWinner
08-13-2004, 02:28 PM
This a travesty! A sham! A mockery! It's a travashamockery! :D
Anyway...
How could they do this to PPG? -__- The show went from getting awesome to this... Bleh.
LightShadow1890
08-13-2004, 02:59 PM
These episodes are poorly done, I must say. Judging from the PPGStyle.com website, I thought it was going to be more Flash-looking, but I discover they're i 3-D cel shading (like SD Gundam). I can't help but think "yuck". Not only is the "fighting evil before bedtime" montra made into a mockery with cosmetics and shopping, but the actual animation of these characters in a third dimension makes them look like maroinettes controlled by a drunked puppeteer.
I get the idea that Cartoon Network mainly want to do this to sell the products, so no harm in their intention. What I don't like is that they've taken some of their best characters and turned them into Barbie dolls in order to do so. Could have the girls existed in their original form with slight product changes for a hip, graphic, stylistic change? I know they do that ALL the time on concert T-shirts, and it doesn't make sense that they'd actually MARKET these new changes instead of just selling them with the familiar and friendly images from TV. Instead we get these clunky ads that basically "sell out" the franchise.
Also, we have the model search contest at PPGStyle.com. Sure, its a fun idea to have little girls pulled from the audience to model their clothes, but not like this. Those little girls like "The Powerpuff Girls" not "PPGStyle". I'm surprised you didn't attempt to make the PPG's into princesses or some other ultra-fem conception of what women "want" to be.
I'll say this once Cartoon Network: You want to sell something, then make something new. Don't sell-out your charaters or stories for a buck. I'm really shocked you'd take something you care about so much and trudge it through the mud like this. Remaking a classic like "Judy Jetson" or "Penelope Pitstop" would have been more fun and allowed for more freedom. The characters are dated, and nastalgia is fun. Remaking a show with strong female leads and reducing them to fashion maivens goes against everything McCraken worked to create. They're no longer strong females, they're girls that care more about what they look like than what's inside. Hey, I know flash when I see it. If CN wants to see what flash looks like, go to Newgrounds.
That's pretty horrible. I thought they'd do something cool...but they made the PPG look more like aliens with crazy hair and lipstick. Too much, not the correct shade lipstick.
I agree with CookieS. I liked the old show. It was pretty cool. I thought the site was bad...but what from everybody's saying...this reaks of the smell of armpits and bad ideas. I saw the commercials. I thought they looked ugly. And don't think the PPG would be like this when they're teens. Shame, CN. Shame. Jush make a commercial, like the water safety buddy, and the Chuckie Cheese commercial. You made the PPG into shallow characters who are just like over-preppy popular girls who do nothing else than gossip.
The animation is actually pretty neat, but everything else....So, they defeat the villains by dressing them up and then dance around?
I feel really sorry for Craig McCracken. Now that his creation is in other hands, they're doing THIS to it.
Not something that Craig...or even the creator of Cow and Chicken would do. Who made this up, a 14 yr old who's IQ is 90? This is like Spongebob material! My sister even said that (MahouShojo13)! So they beat the villians by dressing them in hideous clothing and make them dance? Hey, good thing I didn't see the epi and only the commercial. If I did, I would never recover so I can watch CC. I think this will give CN a badder rep. I don't think the creators of Spongebob would make this travesty, and PPGStyle seems to be like that. If this cartoon was in Craig's hands, ne would have more action, and more originality.
Jon nailed it. It's a mockery, nay a travesty, that completely goes against what the show was about, all to make a buck. Congratulations CN, what was a "witty, sardonic" show and concept is now two steps away from being a "Sleeping Beauty Barbie" DVD. Ah well, maybe this'll flop and CN will finally put the show and franchise to rest, maybe after a DVD boxset or 4 first (you know, the good seasons.) Yup. And Sleeping Beauty Barbie I thought was horrible when I saw the commercial.
Stupid idea. Stupid character design. I'd say this is a show for over preppy teen girls who are popular, skinny, revealing, and go out with a boy every 3 months. No, let me say 3 weeks. This...is plain horrible.
oofadoofa
08-13-2004, 04:14 PM
Hey, I know flash when I see it. If CN wants to see what flash looks like, go to Newgrounds.
That's pretty horrible. I thought they'd do something cool...but they made the PPG look more like aliens with crazy hair and lipstick. Too much, not the correct shade lipstick.
I agree with CookieS. I liked the old show. It was pretty cool. I thought the site was bad...but what from everybody's saying...this reaks of the smell of armpits and bad ideas. I saw the commercials. I thought they looked ugly. And don't think the PPG would be like this when they're teens. Shame, CN. Shame. Jush make a commercial, like the water safety buddy, and the Chuckie Cheese commercial. You made the PPG into shallow characters who are just like over-preppy popular girls who do nothing else than gossip.
Not something that Craig...or even the creator of Cow and Chicken would do. Who made this up, a 14 yr old who's IQ is 90? This is like Spongebob material! My sister even said that (MahouShojo13)! So they beat the villians by dressing them in hideous clothing and make them dance? Hey, good thing I didn't see the epi and only the commercial. If I did, I would never recover so I can watch CC. I think this will give CN a badder rep. I don't think the creators of Spongebob would make this travesty, and PPGStyle seems to be like that. If this cartoon was in Craig's hands, ne would have more action, and more originality.
Yup. And Sleeping Beauty Barbie I thought was horrible when I saw the commercial.
Stupid idea. Stupid character design. I'd say this is a show for over preppy teen girls who are popular, skinny, revealing, and go out with a boy every 3 months. No, let me say 3 weeks. This...is plain horrible.I understand, but Spongebob material? I happen to like Spongebob very much.
Sampo
08-13-2004, 05:41 PM
CookieS thanks for the link... I guess... err um.
After watching that video clip, man that looked terrible. :sweat:
Here are some pics from that little video thing. Just incase you can't view that video for some odd reason.
http://home.hawaii.rr.com/wizardgrey/images/Temp/Image5.jpghttp://home.hawaii.rr.com/wizardgrey/images/Temp/Image6.jpg
http://home.hawaii.rr.com/wizardgrey/images/Temp/Image7.jpghttp://home.hawaii.rr.com/wizardgrey/images/Temp/Image8.jpg
Later.
artemis_winter
08-13-2004, 06:13 PM
That's just strange in all the weird ways possible.
*blink*
Scratch that. It's a conspiracy. I think they might be trying to promote clothes and "Rugrats All Grown Up" at the same time in a remarkably convoluted way.
yadaman
08-13-2004, 06:41 PM
Hey, I know flash when I see it. If CN wants to see what flash looks like, go to Newgrounds.
That's pretty horrible. I thought they'd do something cool...but they made the PPG look more like aliens with crazy hair and lipstick. Too much, not the correct shade lipstick.
I agree with CookieS. I liked the old show. It was pretty cool. I thought the site was bad...but what from everybody's saying...this reaks of the smell of armpits and bad ideas. I saw the commercials. I thought they looked ugly. And don't think the PPG would be like this when they're teens. Shame, CN. Shame. Jush make a commercial, like the water safety buddy, and the Chuckie Cheese commercial. You made the PPG into shallow characters who are just like over-preppy popular girls who do nothing else than gossip.
Not something that Craig...or even the creator of Cow and Chicken would do. Who made this up, a 14 yr old who's IQ is 90? This is like Spongebob material! My sister even said that (MahouShojo13)! So they beat the villians by dressing them in hideous clothing and make them dance? Hey, good thing I didn't see the epi and only the commercial. If I did, I would never recover so I can watch CC. I think this will give CN a badder rep. I don't think the creators of Spongebob would make this travesty, and PPGStyle seems to be like that. If this cartoon was in Craig's hands, ne would have more action, and more originality.
Yup. And Sleeping Beauty Barbie I thought was horrible when I saw the commercial.
Stupid idea. Stupid character design. I'd say this is a show for over preppy teen girls who are popular, skinny, revealing, and go out with a boy every 3 months. No, let me say 3 weeks. This...is plain horrible. Couldn't have said it better myself, except for the spongebob is bad thing
wrenchien
08-13-2004, 07:42 PM
ehhh, not bad looking to me. perhaps it's the first real new design the ppg ever had, you're probably just so used to the old designs.
and i saw some of the clips aired on the tube, btw. they were actually almost 3-d in design, the way they danced around.
i just do hope, if ppg picks up the designs and becomes ppt or something.. they at least have some real plots. and funny ones .
I get the idea that Cartoon Network mainly want to do this to sell the products, so no harm in their intention. What I don't like is that they've taken some of their best characters and turned them into Barbie dolls in order to do so. Could have the girls existed in their original form with slight product changes for a hip, graphic, stylistic change? I know they do that ALL the time on concert T-shirts, and it doesn't make sense that they'd actually MARKET these new changes instead of just selling them with the familiar and friendly images from TV. Instead we get these clunky ads that basically "sell out" the franchise.
Exactly. It's like video game companies thinking (I borrow this from a post in the Video Games forum) "If we want girls to start playing, we'll have to plaster Mary-Kate and Ashley all over the cover!" :rolleyes:
Ooh... those pics Sampo provided are FUG-LEE. I don't want to check this out for myself, I'm too afraid now.
littleyoshi
08-13-2004, 08:47 PM
I didnt know what to think of it at first but now I know for sure its terrible.
Wow... I just watched this, and I was just shocked.. Obviously it's to sell the PPGStyle things, but it was just so weird..
The girls putting clothes on the villains and them dancing with them, only to stylishly kick Mojo Jojo.. It was so confusing.. I didn't like the look either. That was just weird.
Aquadementia
08-13-2004, 09:36 PM
CookieS thanks for the link... I guess... err um.
After watching that video clip, man that looked terrible. :sweat:
Here are some pics from that little video thing. Just incase you can't view that video for some odd reason.
http://home.hawaii.rr.com/wizardgrey/images/Temp/Image7.jpg
From left to right:
The Professor
The Mayor
Ms Bellum
Where's your god now?
The Travoltalized Broccoloid works though, so go figure.
Zach Williams
08-13-2004, 09:43 PM
This is the stupid'st thing I've evr seen, I think they showed a new one during FHFIF today, but maybe this is the same one. The one I say today was the Buttercup episode. I don't know which this one is.:o
AJW73
08-14-2004, 01:31 PM
"Ick" is all I have to say. I did like the animation though, but the whole thing was ridiculous. I hope this won't last long, or end up as a series.
This is the stupid'st thing I've evr seen, I think they showed a new one during FHFIF today, but maybe this is the same one. The one I say today was the Buttercup episode. I don't know which this one is.:oI've seen two versions of this episode... in one, blossom kicks Him, and in the other one, someone throws something at one of the villians at the end...
LightShadow1890
08-15-2004, 11:33 PM
Okay..Spongebob material thing...
Sorry. Guess I wasn't thinking straight. AND I NEVER SAID SPONGBOB IS BAD, TO ANYONE WHO SAID THAT.
I'm meaning that's the show seems wayy to light...PPG is pretty hardcore. Spongebob seems to be like that for some reason. I mean, the whole thing with beating MJ with playing dress-up seems something...to me...you'll somehow get it...
You know what, scratch the whole Spongebob thing. I think it'll rather be SeaLab 2021, for god's sake... (it looks like they reuse the images from the old show and use them for the new one, and it seems pretty stupid).
Sorry, I apologize to anyone I offended. Just PM me if anyone is concerned. PLEASE. And, yes, you have the right to be mad.
Now, back to the topic.
CookieS thanks for the link... I guess... err um.
After watching that video clip, man that looked terrible. :sweat:
Here are some pics from that little video thing. Just incase you can't view that video for some odd reason.
http://home.hawaii.rr.com/wizardgrey/images/Temp/Image5.jpghttp://home.hawaii.rr.com/wizardgrey/images/Temp/Image6.jpg
http://home.hawaii.rr.com/wizardgrey/images/Temp/Image7.jpghttp://home.hawaii.rr.com/wizardgrey/images/Temp/Image8.jpg
Later.
Looking that these pics, the style seems really whack, especially for the PPG image. OMG....
The pics also seem very blurry. I wonder how their mouths move. Either way, still or not, I think it'll look weird.
Poor Craig. I wonder how he's gonna cope with this.
Wait, who the hell made up this idea anyway? :confused:
I talked about this to my bro's gf. She mentioned that CN churns out some bad stuff. If this is true, then this'll take the cake, the B-day candles and all.
Note to CN: Please to us all a favor and just do commercials to pormote something. PLEASE?
Happy
08-16-2004, 11:05 AM
Oh man, that was laughably bad. Also why did they use those brocolli villians, they were unimportant oneshots.
LightShadow1890
08-16-2004, 12:39 PM
Okay, I have yet to see one episode. Well, I hope it doesn't burn my eyes so I won't be capible to watch .hack/DUSK.
I made my second brother (who goes to FIT to study Graphic Arts) look at the pictures Sampo got. I heard him say "Oh my god", in like a whisper. I asked "Isn't that horrible?" He agreed. THIS IS COMING FROM AN ART STUDENT.
Also why did they use those brocolli villians, they were unimportant oneshots.
Yeah....only shown in one epi....
We should have a contest to make a better image of the PPG as teens. In the Drawing Board.
tucsoncoyote
08-18-2004, 08:29 AM
Alright I have seen this and this is not the future of the PPG..it's not even reality.. it's sub-par-non-parallel-non-dimensional-surealistic-reality..
or in the Immortal Words of Ron Stoppable..
IT'S SICK AND WRONG! SICK AND WRONG!
Now have I made myself clear? Good.
Frankly if this is what "Flash 3D is like.. I'll sitck to hand drawn 2D animation thank you.
:coyote:
Episode One:
It was... okay. The only saving grace was watching the PPGs dance with the villians ala Space Channel Five and the new getups the Mayor, Ms. Bellum, and the Professor have. Everything else was either too randomly splicey or just in bad taste.
Episode Two:
... this was pretty much the same thing except with a few added scenes and Buttercup in place of Bubbles... that's just cheap.
Lonestarr
08-20-2004, 01:20 PM
I almost never do this (responding to something I haven't seen), but am I the only one who finds it a little...suspect that it's supposed to be the girls as teenagers, yet they have little girl's bodies? Yeah, kinda creepy. Someone should get fired for that.
Starwater6
08-20-2004, 06:07 PM
do not vote
do not voteumm you should probably stop with that Star, your kinda off topic. And anyway why the sudden switch?i thought you were all into the contest b4
But anyways..
You know i thought as teens the ppgs style would all kinda go in different directions. You know like buttercup would be more punkish, blossom more conservative, and bubbles all cutsey and girly.But they look the same as they did kindergarten, just more eh..bulgey.
And i dont really get why the girls are all 3D and then you have ppl like Professior and The mayor that look like paper.wierd
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