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Knight
08-06-2004, 12:05 PM
In STAS she was about 16years old.

Im not sure how long the Justice League is supposed to have been around but using The Justice Lords universe as a measuring stick of time ( assuming the two teams formed around the same period) they have been in operation atleast two years but probably closer to 3. So at the minimum Supergirl should be 19 years old with a 3 year lapse between STAS and JLU. Does this sound right or not old enough?

Eddie G.
08-06-2004, 12:39 PM
Well I think that for our purposes JL has existed up to this point in real time. So it has been around three years since Secret Origins. I think a year or two passed from S:TAS and JL, so I'm guessing she is around twenty one. She's at least old enough to be hit on by Green Arrow.

MJC
08-06-2004, 05:28 PM
I'd say twenty-ish.

EJill34
08-06-2004, 05:32 PM
She's at least 21, because it seems that about a year took place between the end of S:TAS and JL. The Justice League seems like they've has been together for 3-4 years, though Hawkgirl does say she spent the last 5 years "torn between her feelings and her duty"...so she must have had some contact with other superheroes. It's hard to say, but 21-22 sounds good to me.

Kryptonian
08-06-2004, 09:32 PM
I'd say maybe between the ages of 16-19. She looks pretty young, and in her profile, it says she's a teenager.

b.t.
08-06-2004, 11:26 PM
Well I think that for our purposes JL has existed up to this point in real time. So it has been around three years since Secret Origins. I think a year or two passed from S:TAS and JL, so I'm guessing she is around twenty one. She's at least old enough to be hit on by Green Arrow.


dang it, we were AFRAID ollie's wink at kara would be mis-interpreted, and sure enough, everyone seems to think he was hitting on her...the wink was supposed to be more of an "it's ok, kid, i don't like this jerk (capt. atom) either" kinda thing....hopefully, their relationship will be clearer once "fearful symmetry" airs, where he's presented as much more of a "hip uncle" type than a "cradle-robbing player"....

and, for the record, we haven't really set the dcau timeline in stone (it helps keep our storytelling options open), but in "fearful", kara references the events of an S:TAS episode as occurring "a few years ago", so i figure that puts her at about 18 or 19...

Eddie G.
08-06-2004, 11:40 PM
dang it, we were AFRAID ollie's wink at kara would be mis-interpreted, and sure enough, everyone seems to think he was hitting on her...the wink was supposed to be more of an "it's ok, kid, i don't like this jerk (capt. atom) either" kinda thing....hopefully, their relationship will be clearer once "fearful symmetry" airs, where he's presented as much more of a "hip uncle" type than a "cradle-robbing player"....Well it really wasn't the wink alone that made me think that, it was more of her smile. It kind of gave me a school girl crush vibe. Beyond that some early reviews had said that Ollie was a womanizer so I was half expecting him to hit on Super Girl.

Sorry for not interepting it right.

As for the timeline not being solid, it might be cool if just got some sort of hint. Like Superman or Batman saying how long they've been sporting the capes. I actually took a strike at fleshing out the DCAU's timeline along with some other members, the thread is floating around.

Nick K.
08-06-2004, 11:42 PM
dang it, we were AFRAID ollie's wink at kara would be mis-interpreted, and sure enough, everyone seems to think he was hitting on her...the wink was supposed to be more of an "it's ok, kid, i don't like this jerk (capt. atom) either" kinda thing....hopefully, their relationship will be clearer once "fearful symmetry" airs, where he's presented as much more of a "hip uncle" type than a "cradle-robbing player"....

and, for the record, we haven't really set the dcau timeline in stone (it helps keep our storytelling options open), but in "fearful", kara references the events of an S:TAS episode as occurring "a few years ago", so i figure that puts her at about 18 or 19...

I didn't get that he was hitting on her. He looked at her as more of a cute little girl... Like if she was related to him and he was laughing at CA with her... Something Superman wouldn't do... or would he?

And I'd say that she should be 19... Considering in JL time we are told that it's been around 2 or 3 years... and S:TAS to JL is how long??? Let's say a few months... And she was 16... Yeah, that sounds right.

Simpler Simon
08-06-2004, 11:57 PM
dang it, we were AFRAID ollie's wink at kara would be mis-interpreted, and sure enough, everyone seems to think he was hitting on her...the wink was supposed to be more of an "it's ok, kid, i don't like this jerk (capt. atom) either" kinda thing....hopefully, their relationship will be clearer once "fearful symmetry" airs, where he's presented as much more of a "hip uncle" type than a "cradle-robbing player".... That's pretty much what I figured, I didn't really see the whole cradle-robbing thing either (yeah, the guy's a womanizer, but I'm sure he has some sense of decency/standards).

My thoughts on Kara's age are that she'd probably be around 20/21 if the DCAU had a sense of formal time...but since comic book time speeds up or slows down as needed, 18/19 is fine. Besides, Kryptonians age gracefully, so she probably still looks 16 :sweat:

Ferquin
08-07-2004, 07:34 AM
18 or 19 sounds about right. I mean, if Barbara can eventually graduate college, I'm sure Kara can eventually graduate from high school.

Which kinda brings up another point. How old's Barbara these days? Mid 20s? It doesn't seem quite as bad (age wise) for her to be chasing Batman now, does it? Still a teeny bit messed up, but still... she's not as young as she seemed to be, although I still imagine Bruce to be at least twenty years her senior. After all, Bruce was already a fresh, young Batman when Barbara was still in the womb. Back in the BTAS days, I always thought Bruce was much older (like late 30s/early 40s), what with the slight age lines on his jaw that seem to have, strangely enough, disappeared with time and later design changes (which currently seems to place Bruce in his early/mid 30s, judging solely by his looks). But I digress.

Knight
08-07-2004, 07:50 AM
dang it, we were AFRAID ollie's wink at kara would be mis-interpreted, and sure enough, everyone seems to think he was hitting on her...the wink was supposed to be more of an "it's ok, kid, i don't like this jerk (capt. atom) either" kinda thing....hopefully, their relationship will be clearer once "fearful symmetry" airs, where he's presented as much more of a "hip uncle" type than a "cradle-robbing player"....

and, for the record, we haven't really set the dcau timeline in stone (it helps keep our storytelling options open), but in "fearful", kara references the events of an S:TAS episode as occurring "a few years ago", so i figure that puts her at about 18 or 19...
So my figure of her being around 19 was about right thanks b.t.

I have to say I never thought Ollie was hitting on Kara either. I thought it was a "good job telling that jerk off" type moment too. Atleast some people got the intended meaning.

b.t.
08-07-2004, 12:44 PM
Well it really wasn't the wink alone that made me think that, it was more of her smile. It kind of gave me a school girl crush vibe. Beyond that some early reviews had said that Ollie was a womanizer so I was half expecting him to hit on Super Girl.

Sorry for not interepting it right.

hey, no problem, b.w., EVERYTHING'S open to interpretation....half the fun of reading internet chatter is in seeing the multitude of viewpoints...that's the main reason i almost never defend the shows directly on the talkbacks: if i wait long enough, there's usually SOMEBODY out there who'll "get" what we were trying to say and do all our defending for us...

then again, mistaking our intentions can sometimes lead us into interesting territory: the whole diana/bruce quasi-romance was sparked by widespread internet misinterpretation of the kiss in "the brave and the bold", when we originally just thought of it as a sweet little throw-away gag...

my "dang it" wasn't directed at you, it was my frustration at a story/character point not being presented clearly by us (dang it, there you go misinterpreting me AGAIN!:))...

Batman's Biggest Fan
08-07-2004, 01:18 PM
hey, no problem, b.w., EVERYTHING'S open to interpretation....half the fun of reading internet chatter is in seeing the multitude of viewpoints...that's the main reason i almost never defend the shows directly on the talkbacks: if i wait long enough, there's usually SOMEBODY out there who'll "get" what we were trying to say and do all our defending for us...

then again, mistaking our intentions can sometimes lead us into interesting territory: the whole diana/bruce quasi-romance was sparked by widespread internet misinterpretation of the kiss in "the brave and the bold", when we originally just thought of it as a sweet little throw-away gag...

my "dang it" wasn't directed at you, it was my frustration at a story/character point not being presented clearly by us (dang it, there you go misinterpreting me AGAIN!:))...
Well Diana kissing Batman just caught me by surprise since I thought Diana thought all men were weaklings except Superman. (I should stop reading CN's bios. It says Supes is the leader, but as you said so yourself there is no one leader of the league.) Oh and for the record, b.t. I didn't really pay the wink to mind. :)

Chris Wood
08-08-2004, 02:04 AM
Yeesh, this is like one of those creepy Olson twins countdown threads (they finally turned 18!).

Fone Bone
08-08-2004, 07:48 AM
Yeesh, this is like one of those creepy Olson twins countdown threads (they finally turned 18!).
Ummm, no. This is about trying to place continuity.

RAINMAN
08-08-2004, 11:11 AM
Supergirl should change her outfit. Not that I don`t like it. But now that shes apart of a well know super hero, she needs a more mature outfit.

Mister Intensity
08-08-2004, 11:27 AM
Ummm, no. This is about trying to place continuity.
Just like, it seems, every other post in this forum.

Mister Intensity

Supremus
08-08-2004, 11:32 AM
Supergirl should change her outfit. Not that I don`t like it. But now that shes apart of a well know super hero, she needs a more mature outfit.I agree. I was hoping they would have "upgraded" her outfit to the classic Supergirl outfit for JLU.

Phantasm
08-08-2004, 12:17 PM
I'm not a fan of Supergirl's current outfit either.I'd prefer the Batgirl costume any time.

b.t.
08-08-2004, 08:42 PM
I agree. I was hoping they would have "upgraded" her outfit to the classic Supergirl outfit for JLU.

WHICH "classic" outfit? the original jim mooney era one? or the 70's bob oskner-era puffy-sleeved blouse/hotpants combo? i dunno, they're both kinda retro....of course, her current "riot grrl" look is rapidly on its way to becoming "retro", too, so maybe it IS time to go back to the drawing board....

EJill34
08-08-2004, 08:52 PM
WHICH "classic" outfit? the original jim mooney era one? or the 70's bob oskner-era puffy-sleeved blouse/hotpants combo? i dunno, they're both kinda retro....of course, her current "riot grrl" look is rapidly on its way to becoming "retro", too, so maybe it IS time to go back to the drawing board....Please don't use the Cir-El design with the black shirt and the red-pink S painted across. Unless you want too, then I'm ok with it...

Knight
08-08-2004, 09:50 PM
WHICH "classic" outfit? the original jim mooney era one? or the 70's bob oskner-era puffy-sleeved blouse/hotpants combo? i dunno, they're both kinda retro....of course, her current "riot grrl" look is rapidly on its way to becoming "retro", too, so maybe it IS time to go back to the drawing board....
Hey b.t. I think the current costume is fine. But if you feel the need to do some alterations that is fine too. But hopefully you dont go to the "Superman in a skirt" outfit. Supergirl deserves her own style and not to look to be a almost complete copy of Supes.

Supremus
08-09-2004, 12:24 PM
WHICH "classic" outfit? the original jim mooney era one? or the 70's bob oskner-era puffy-sleeved blouse/hotpants combo? i dunno, they're both kinda retro....of course, her current "riot grrl" look is rapidly on its way to becoming "retro", too, so maybe it IS time to go back to the drawing board....Heh, no puffy sleeves or hotpants, thanks :).

I always thought the Jim Mooney outfit was a classic, timeless design, but I prefer the version with the red skirt. (I can't believe I just wrote that :eek: )

I also have a bit of a soft spot for the 80s Crisis costume with the red headband, but it's obviously a little bit too retro.

I think it could be a nice touch for Supergirl to ditch the Christina Aguilera look as she matures and earns her place in the JL, and it would make her seem more like a real member of the Superman family if the outfit matched.

Knight
08-09-2004, 01:31 PM
I think it could be a nice touch for Supergirl to ditch the Christina Aguilera look as she matures and earns her place in the JL, and it would make her seem more like a real member of the Superman family if the outfit matched.

I dont think just because you are the member of a certain "family" means the outfits have to match. The Bat Family doesn't have matching outfits. Even the Marvel(Cap,Mary etc) family's aren't all the same. Superboy in the current comics doesn't where a copy of the Superman suit. The most important thing most of the time is the symbol and Supergirl has that.

Supremus
08-09-2004, 02:30 PM
I dont think just because you are the member of a certain "family" means the outfits have to match. The Bat Family doesn't have matching outfits. Even the Marvel(Cap,Mary etc) family's aren't all the same. Superboy in the current comics doesn't where a copy of the Superman suit. The most important thing most of the time is the symbol and Supergirl has that.That's a fair point, but the Bat Family never had matching outfits, while the original versions of Supergirl and Superboy did (continuety aside), so when they're wearing something else, it makes it more difficult for me to accept them as the "real thing".

I don't really mind the STAS Supergirl design (except for the gloves), and since the outfit was a bit makeshift to begin with, I just think upgrading her to the Superman style costume could be a natural progression, and a way for her to show everybody she was serious about the superhero-gig. I don't mind a few tweaks here and there. Michael Turner's new take on the classic Supergirl outfit is... interesting.

Ferquin
08-10-2004, 02:31 AM
Actually, I really like Supergirl's current design. It's really spiffy. She's basically the girl-next-door in a baby-tee and miniskirt, but only with a cape and a Superman "S", which in itself has become so iconic and retro that it's hip for kids to be wearing them these days.

Again, really spiffy and simple. Don't change a thing! And I love the gloves. They're just so sick (as in "cool") awesome! Gloves seem to exude this aura of power and nostalgia. Gloves are just such a classy touch!

Camaris
08-10-2004, 09:46 AM
Um, is b.t. really who I think it is?

Darkseid
08-10-2004, 09:55 AM
Um, is b.t. really who I think it is?
Yes. Welcome to how cool the board is. ;)

Camaris
08-10-2004, 10:01 AM
Yes. Welcome to how cool the board is. ;)

:lol very cool indeed!

Though I feel embarrased about my immediate instinct to do a Wayne and Garth...

"We're not worthy, we're not worthy".

Phantasm
08-10-2004, 02:30 PM
Yes. Welcome to how cool the board is. ;)yes!!!
:D

All-Star 1.5
08-10-2004, 02:51 PM
If they do change Supergirl's costume I hope that it reflects her into becoming her own hero, but at the same time showing that she is still Superman's cousin. You know maybe make the costume a full on white body suit with the S insignia in the midle and maybe add a short blue cape and belt. Off course the 70s version is an instant classic. And maybe cut the hair a little.

Supremus
08-10-2004, 03:47 PM
Do any of the veterans or convention-go'ers have any memories of what the general fan feedback on the STAS Supergirl costume was at the time? Personally, I didn't really mind it so much. I always thought the gloves looked stupid, and that it didn't seem like the "real" Supergirl, because the costume was so different to anything I had seen in the comics, but I still thought it worked in the context of her being so much younger.

DerekPowers
08-10-2004, 08:11 PM
dang it, we were AFRAID ollie's wink at kara would be mis-interpreted, and sure enough, everyone seems to think he was hitting on her...the wink was supposed to be more of an "it's ok, kid, i don't like this jerk (capt. atom) either" kinda thing....hopefully, their relationship will be clearer once "fearful symmetry" airs, where he's presented as much more of a "hip uncle" type than a "cradle-robbing player"....

and, for the record, we haven't really set the dcau timeline in stone (it helps keep our storytelling options open), but in "fearful", kara references the events of an S:TAS episode as occurring "a few years ago", so i figure that puts her at about 18 or 19...

my interpretation was exactly what you were going for, especially the capt. atom being a jerk part. hehe.

anyway, since the topic of her costume came up, i always loved it. BUT in the promo art you first released for JLU, where we have our 7 heros w/ all the others flying out of the sun, supergirl's skirt is red and her shirt doesnt have the black lining (although the red in place of the blue could just have been for the lighting effect of the sun and all). but, i gotta say, i liked it. it was updated, more simplified, and unique to her (all red w/out the blue). plus her boots seemed to be more of your typical superhero boots, rather than the doc martains. anyway, i kind of thought it fit into the theroy of JLU, but her regualr outfit is fine. if i had to choose which was better, obviously i'd go w/ the stas/JLU one, but if she had to be altered or updated, i'd say that was a pretty good design.

can anyone post that pic? i have it as my desktop wallpaper actually, but believe it or not, i never learned how to post pics here. im sure its simple, but i never did it before. peace.

Naninou
10-28-2009, 11:15 PM
I know this is a seriously old topic, but since i want to say something about Supergirl's age and knew about this topic, i figured i'd post it here instead of making another topic about it.

Kara was officially 16 in STAS, and then in the JL series she aged to 18/19 and in her final episode they say she's 21, as old as her friend Barbara Gordon.


When Girls night out was released, i always assumed Babs and Kara were 16 and 21, and that the STAS and TNBA were in a similar timeframe...

...but after the JLU episode stated she's 21, i was reminded of something from the GNO episode that would make her considerably older in that episode then 16. Supergirl and Batgirl enter The penguin's nightclub, and Oswald suggests that they aren't even old enough to enter a nightclub, to wich Kara replies "wanna see my ID?", wich means she's at least 18+ in GNO, if not 21, depending on wich US state Gotham City is. Since Gotham City is commonly placed in the New York erea, that would be a minimum age of 21 to enter a nightclub like The Iceberg Lounge.

suss2it
10-29-2009, 12:43 AM
I know this is a seriously old topic, but since i want to say something about Supergirl's age and knew about this topic, i figured i'd post it here instead of making another topic about it.

Kara was officially 16 in STAS, and then in the JL series she aged to 18/19 and in her final episode they say she's 21, as old as her friend Barbara Gordon.


When Girls night out was released, i always assumed Babs and Kara were 16 and 21, and that the STAS and TNBA were in a similar timeframe...

...but after the JLU episode stated she's 21, i was reminded of something from the GNO episode that would make her considerably older in that episode then 16. Supergirl and Batgirl enter The penguin's nightclub, and Oswald suggests that they aren't even old enough to enter a nightclub, to wich Kara replies "wanna see my ID?", wich means she's at least 18+ in GNO, if not 21, depending on wich US state Gotham City is. Since Gotham City is commonly placed in the New York erea, that would be a minimum age of 21 to enter a nightclub like The Iceberg Lounge.I always took that as her firsts were her ID.

Casey Mack
10-29-2009, 01:31 AM
I always took that as her firsts were her ID.

you would be right, that was the point of that entire scene and statment. Naniou is just being utterly foolish if she didn't get that.


I know this is a seriously old topic, but since i want to say something about Supergirl's age and knew about this topic, i figured i'd post it here instead of making another topic about it.

Kara was officially 16 in STAS, and then in the JL series she aged to 18/19 and in her final episode they say she's 21, as old as her friend Barbara Gordon.


When Girls night out was released, i always assumed Babs and Kara were 16 and 21, and that the STAS and TNBA were in a similar timeframe...

...but after the JLU episode stated she's 21, i was reminded of something from the GNO episode that would make her considerably older in that episode then 16. Supergirl and Batgirl enter The penguin's nightclub, and Oswald suggests that they aren't even old enough to enter a nightclub, to wich Kara replies "wanna see my ID?", wich means she's at least 18+ in GNO, if not 21, depending on wich US state Gotham City is. Since Gotham City is commonly placed in the New York erea, that would be a minimum age of 21 to enter a nightclub like The Iceberg Lounge.

:confused: My god................ you really didn't get that point of that threat scene LAWL.
:flapjack:

Naninou
10-29-2009, 10:39 AM
:confused: My god................ you really didn't get that point of that threat scene LAWL.
:flapjack:


....ok. Thanks for the clairification!... Is it like REALLY stupid that i didn't get that, or just a little?

Bird Boy
10-29-2009, 07:43 PM
Ok, several things wrong in here:

1) This is an old thread. Naninou, I know you said you didn't want to create a new one but I think in this case it would've been better to just make a new one and link to this one as at five years the vast majority of the posters in this thread either aren't here any longer or they don't visit often. Thread revival is always a tricky issue so no harm no foul either way as far as I'm concerned, just a note for future reference.

2) Casey Mack, don't be so rude. Seriously...that wasn't cool. No reason to be so abrasive. Also there are multi-quote and edit buttons. Use them. No need to double post.

3) I think we're done with this topic, so I'm going to lock it. Naninou, if you want to talk about Supergirl's age again, then feel free to make another topic. But I think we're all clear on the subject now, so I doubt there will be a need.

-BB