where should sd gundam go?

[James Bester]

sd gundam premieres are coming. we dont know when, but we know that they're coming. the question is where should they be? i give u three choices: cn primetime, toonami, or miguzi. i choose miguzi, because its the correct demographic. not that cn primetime's the right demographic, but miguzi is an action block afterall. if sd aired on toonami, it'd only be on once a week and its just cause an increase on toonami's focus on the 6-11 demographic. time to make your choice.

[CookieS]

Traditionally the network likes to have Gundam series within Toonami because it was the right demographic. Considerin SD Gundam is much more comedic and light that other Gundam series, its a consideration for Miguzi, but no one knows.

[EnAll]

Well, lets look what each each block targets

Toonami 9-14/(hopefully soon) 12-17, 6-11 come regeardless (Mostly boy-centric)
Miguzi-6-11 (aimed at both geners)
Primetime-Families (with comedy)

SD is in the 6-11 area

Reasons to bring to toonami
Aired their before

Reasons for Miguzi
Targets 6-11 and both genders

reasons not going to primetime
won't take anything to anime-ish that's not Pokemor or YGO

Reasons not to Toonami
Bringing unnedded 6-11 ratings (Though might fit there at 7)
not many people want it there

Reasons not for Miguzi
Might be too action-ey and/or anime-ish

I thing it should go to Miguzi for the above reasons

EDIT: I agree entireley with HS

[Andrew T. Hingson]

M I G U Z I

Is that clear enough for ya?

[William C. Maune]

It should go to Miguzi, but I can't say I'd mind seeing it on Toonami. I'd rather see it on Miguzi though.

[Wanted]

Gundam with seasons? I don't like the idea. Anyhow, it should go to the morning time. Try 5:30a. Replace Captain Planet.

[Zach Williams]

Anyhow, it should go to the morning time. Try 5:30a. Replace Captain Planet.Yeah, that'd be nice, but maybe at 8:30 or 6:00 before I wake up, and after I leave:D!!!:D Yeah, once again, that'd be nice. But, if not, it should go to Miguzi.:)

[True Noir]

Anywhere besides Toonami, folk.

[Andrew T. Hingson]

I hope CN is reading this thread...

[Cyber E.]

Yes, because that is how every television network should base their judgments for their programming.

Through Internet message boards.

[Rabi~en~Rose]

Toonami is where all Gundam belongs!

[WingZombie38]

I say it goes to Miguziami, Miguzi and Toonami's love child.

...

Yeah, like they said: MIGUZI.

[Andrew T. Hingson]

Toonami is where all Gundam belongs!
That's NOT Gundam.

Have it invaide your Miguzi and kill it from the inside. Mwa ha ha ha ha!

[William C. Maune]

It is Gundam! It's called SD Gundam. It's meant to be a parodic silly take on Gundam and the joke doesn't work if it isn't Gundam.

[Andrew T. Hingson]

Quiet now, don't prove Rabi's point!

I desire for that show to be as far away from Toonami as possible. Miguzi could use it more anyway.

[Sampo]

It should go to Miguzi. But if you think about it. When Duel Masters airs it's last episode, it's time slot would make a great place for SD Gundam as the slot is right after Mucha Lucha and before Rave Master (if they keep airing RM:sweat:.)

It really should go to Miguzi... But I have a feeling that we will see it on Toonami. As an example, look at *cough*Teen Titans*cough*.

[Rabi~en~Rose]

hows it not gundam :confused: they are up to episode 31 in japan and like most shows halfway through alots changed and its not quite as light hearted as intial episodes were :) if Rave/DBGT/Duel Masters/Megas/TT belong on Toonami then SDG 2 should fit right in

[EnAll]

SD-6-11 demo
Toonami-9-14
Miguzi-6-11

look at it this way

SD+Miguzi=6-11 ratings and :D CN

SD+Toonami=little rATINGS AND :mad: CN


MIGUZI

[Youko Recca]

s-CRY-ed > SD Gundam

With that said, I'd rather have something that's going to help Toonami actually MOVE TOWARDS a teen clause. SD will not do this, at all. Usada is making no point because Duel Masters has jokes that average teens would actually get, GT is atleast connected to the teens who grew up with DB, Megas could very well be liked by teens and is...trust me, and Rave was an unstoppable force(they can't rip up a contract). So, whoever, bring on KAZUMA THE SHELL BULLET.

[Andrew T. Hingson]

s.Cry.ed, Flame of Recca, Rurouni Kenshin, X-Men: Evolution, Samurai Jack or even Shaman King would be a better use of that time than SD Gundam.

[LightShadow1890]

Gundam with seasons? I don't like the idea. Anyhow, it should go to the morning time. Try 5:30a. Replace Captain Planet.
Yeah, that's a great idea! Captain Planet's now corny, I just liked CN's game with it.

I've never liked the show that much...but Miguzi's okay.

[Shadow_Wolf75]

Even after all these months with it being one of CN's most successful blocks EVER, some of you people still think Miguzi will go away. Miguzi isn't going anywhere, and if they put SD Gundam in there the ratings will only go up. Get rid of Teen Titans or TMNT; either slot would be good for SD Gundam. I'd rather it not go to Toonami, because one episode a week would drive me nuts, plus it doesn't exactly match with Toonami anymore.

[HellCat]

Even after all these months with it being one of CN's most successful blocks EVER, some of you people still think Miguzi will go away. Miguzi isn't going anywhere, and if they put SD Gundam in there the ratings will only go up. Get rid of Teen Titans or TMNT; either slot would be good for SD Gundam. I'd rather it not go to Toonami, because one episode a week would drive me nuts, plus it doesn't exactly match with Toonami anymore.
I'd agree it wouldn't fit a once a week style. The first season was daily and so far following season 2 on it's Japanese run has been "Well, this weeks episode was good.....This weeks was ok.....This weeks was great!". Plus with SEED on Toonami, it could kill interest since most kids want to distance themselves from 'kiddy stuff' to prove their 'adult' (of course that's a whole other thread)

[True Noir]

It should go to Miguzi. But if you think about it. When Duel Masters airs it's last episode, it's time slot would make a great place for SD Gundam as the slot is right after Mucha Lucha and before Rave Master (if they keep airing RM:sweat:.)

It really should go to Miguzi... But I have a feeling that we will see it on Toonami. As an example, look at *cough*Teen Titans*cough*.Mucha Lucha??...???........???

It would be nice to replace it with Rurouni Kenshin or Flame of Recca. Of course, Scryed would be nice too, but I already had that conversation.

If they did replace Duel Masters with another show, I am 75% positive that they would put in the least mature show in the beginning slot. Something like SD Gundam, I'm afraid to say.

[Andrew T. Hingson]

I'm still rooting for X-Men: Evolution or Kenshin.

[JackieChan]

Where should SD Gundam go? SDG should go to Miguzi. The reason why SDG should go to Miguzi is because it's aimed at the 6-11 demographic. So Miguzi should be SD Gundam's rightful home, not Toonami, Miguzi.

[Youko Recca]

Even after all these months with it being one of CN's most successful blocks EVER, some of you people still think Miguzi will go away. Miguzi isn't going anywhere, and if they put SD Gundam in there the ratings will only go up. Get rid of Teen Titans or TMNT; either slot would be good for SD Gundam. I'd rather it not go to Toonami, because one episode a week would drive me nuts, plus it doesn't exactly match with Toonami anymore.
What is your point exactly? No one said anything about Miguzi going away, or trying to hurt it.

[HellCat]

What is your point exactly? No one said anything about Miguzi going away, or trying to hurt it.
I'd assuming she's refering to those saying about hiding the show somewhere on the schedule where next to no one will catch it.

[Youko Recca]

Well I'm pretty sure Miguzi is placed nicely where it's at. SD would probally do better on Miguzi than it did on Toonami anyhow.

[Sampo]

Mucha Lucha??...???........???

It would be nice to replace it with Rurouni Kenshin or Flame of Recca. Of course, Scryed would be nice too, but I already had that conversation.
...

Yeah Mucha Lucha, um that wrestling cartoon show thing with those kids which airs before Duel Masters.

I love Kenshin and would like to see Flame of Recca or Scryed because it would be a treat to see what these two shows are all about... But would it make any sense to put it in-between Mucha Lucha (very kid oriented) and Rave Master?

If Teen Titans time slot opened up, yes I would happily agree that any of the above anime would make a great addition to the block. But as show put inbetween Mucha Lucha (c'mon MUCHA LUCHA!) and Rave Master.



...
If they did replace Duel Masters with another show, I am 75% positive that they would put in the least mature show in the beginning slot. Something like SD Gundam, I'm afraid to say.
Sadly yeah, I agree as well. :(

[HellCat]

It'd be nice if people didn't treat SD Gundam like the black plague. I can except people not liking it and not wanting to see it on Toonami (if it truely is aiming for an older demographic now, SD isn't likely to attract that) but people go way too far. "Oh, let's hide it away so no one can see it and it'll die from bad ratings" "It's a disgrace to Gundam" Gimme a break. There's a certain point where you have to stop and realise where you're venting all this resentment- a harmless TV show. What good does it do you to turn a mole hill into a mountain? This goes for shows other than SD as well. I'm sick and tired of this mentality that once a show has been labelled 'crap' by the majority, it's fair game to bash it to heck.
Voice your dislike, have an opinion. But for pity's sake, take a good read of what you type. A harmless TV show is not worth such effort and only makes others think less of you.

[Youko Recca]

The Mucha Lucha thing is completely irrelevent, they go from JCA to Family Guy/Futrama everyday.

Now I notice a pattern where they seem to be in the act of sliding in all the more light hearted shows to the beggining. Now not to turn this into a schueduel thread but something like....

7.0- Rave Master
7.5- Dragonball GT
8.0- Teen Titans
8.5- Justice League Unlimited
9.0- Megas XLR
9.5- Yu Yu Hakusho
10.0- S-CRY-ed
10.5- Gundam SEED

.....would do even better than what we are in now, which is definatly a step in the right direction.

[Sampo]

Sorry about my comments HellCat:(, I just trying to defend my reasoning behind placing SD Gundam between Mucha Lucha and Rave Master.

IMO, SD Gundam is great for the target audience it appears to be mainly targeting at, which is children. Also it does have great references that only Gundam fans and older viewers would catch.

[enters broken record mode]It does make sense to have it on Miguzi... BUT with Duel Masters heading to re-runs after the series ends, (IMO) most likely CN will put SD Gundam in its time slot.[/exits broken record mode]

So it would sort of build a bridge between teen and kids block which is not bad idea.

Gah, after typing all that up. I agree with HellCat it's just a TV show... Oh well.

[Youko Recca]

Duel Masters will be in reruns?

[PaQ]

I voted for Cn Primetime. I think SD would work either there or in the early mornings (like Energon currently).

If it were to go Toonami, it would be during the first hour no doubt. I'm hesitant to mark it Miguzi since we really haven't seen what type of shows Miguzi goes for, even though it may be a similar demographic..

Depending on the amount of episodes, I'd rather that SD be aired during the week, than once the week.

[Sampo]

Duel Masters will be in reruns? Hmm, currently this Saturday's episode will be number 22 which is posted here. (http://forums.toonzone.net/showpost.php?p=1361476&postcount=1)

Duel Master, aka Kevin Rubio, posted here (http://forums.toonzone.net/showpost.php?p=1339283&postcount=44) that Plastic Cow only did 26 episodes. They (Hasbro, Wizards of the Coasts, or whoever) are making more episodes of Duel Masters (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=117198), but I doubt it will be ready anytime in the next month or two for airing in US.

Thus after looking at all this, I came to the conclusion and made a statement that "Duel Masters heading to re-runs after the series ends...". Since after the 26th episode, they should not have any more Duel Masters episodes to air. So it should be in re-runs.

I say should because, if CN doesn't re-air the old episodes then there will be no re-runs at all.

[wrenchien]

it should make miguzi a hour longer, and should, ehm... be on miguzi.

yes.. that's the ticket.

[Youko Recca]

Sorry about my comments HellCat:(, I just trying to defend my reasoning behind placing SD Gundam between Mucha Lucha and Rave Master.

IMO, SD Gundam is great for the target audience it appears to be mainly targeting at, which is children. Also it does have great references that only Gundam fans and older viewers would catch.

[enters broken record mode]It does make sense to have it on Miguzi... BUT with Duel Masters heading to re-runs after the series ends, (IMO) most likely CN will put SD Gundam in its time slot.[/exits broken record mode]

So it would sort of build a bridge between teen and kids block which is not bad idea.

Gah, after typing all that up. I agree with HellCat it's just a TV show... Oh well.
I just figured that Duel Masters would be placed elsewhere once it finishes this specific run and something will take it's place. Hence my above scheduel.

[Rabi~en~Rose]

half the Toonami shows target/get big 6-11 ratings I don't get why this Teenami farce is still being refered to :confused: besides its nice if a series can finish where it started thats why everyone was complaining of Kenshin on SVES last year and the many other crossovers

[Youko Recca]

Wait so you want SD back on Toonami for people to complain AGAIN? Put it back...and watch, people will moan twice and three times as bad. Toonami is working towards a teen status code, no one said Toonami reached it yet. If they can put something like S-Cry-ed on I'd rather have that. I also don't see why Kenshin on SVES is relevent to be compared here since that was more about the block than the actual show itself.

[Rabi~en~Rose]

they complain anyway :p 9 - 11 pm is a lock for the "teen" stuff but anytime before then stuff could easily be replaced!

the most complained about shows are astro, jackie, rave, duel masters, titans, and well anything thats been on 7 - 9 besides JLU so far. SDG could kick off Rave since Rave wants to be weekdays and at least SDG would be uncut :)

Duel Masters (reruns will prevail on Toonami)
SD Gundam (better then Rave)
Teen Titans (new and reruns for awhile)
Megas XLR (why not?)
DBGT (9 is fine)
YYH (for the long run + for a funi hour)
JLU (see TT)
Gundam Seed (last of course)

now thats my kind of Toonami schedule based on what we know they have for TV airing and without changing the shows much either or else I would have thrown in Energon :)

[DuckDodgers33]

SD Gundam suits Miguzi perfectly. Just because it's named Gundam dosen't mean it automatically gets a spot on Toonami. It's silly. Funny. And still has some action in it. It's perfect for Miguzi.

[Youko Recca]

But the whole block needs to atleast try and work it's way towards becoming something a teenager would watch. Rave I don't care for and it's edited for the old Toonami, which it was intended for. Now it's just a waste of space. SD I can't see helping at all. So help me, if S-CRY-ed is coming I'll stop hitting people for a week.

[Andrew T. Hingson]

A said earlier in the thread... Rave is bound to Toonami by contract or something and I'd rather have it than SD Gundam anyway.

Duel Masters wont stay. It'd has much more potential as a weekday rerun show. They hope to have enough episodes to strip premieres in the future.

[William C. Maune]

A said earlier in the thread... Rave is bound to Toonami by contract or something and I'd rather have it than SD Gundam anyway.

Where did this Rave Master contract information come from?


Duel Masters wont stay. It'd has much more potential as a weekday rerun show. They hope to have enough episodes to strip premieres in the future.

Based on Kevin Rubio's comments, it sounds like Duel Masters is a fairly quick show to make, at least compared to most animated series. I wonder if we will see a fairly quick start to Season Two of Duel Masters on Toonami. If so, then Duel Masters will have the 7.0 slot locked up for a long time.

[Sampo]

....

Based on Kevin Rubio's comments, it sounds like Duel Masters is a fairly quick show to make, at least compared to most animated series. I wonder if we will see a fairly quick start to Season Two of Duel Masters on Toonami. If so, then Duel Masters will have the 7.0 slot locked up for a long time.
I would be really amazed (and very impressed) if they can get the second season of Duel Masters up and running after the first season ends or a short time after it ends it's run. Although, I wonder how the show will be like without Plastic Cow there to spice things up.

[William C. Maune]

I would be really amazed (and very impressed) if they can get the second season of Duel Masters up and running after the first season ends or a short time after it ends it's run. Although, I wonder how the show will be like without Plastic Cow there to spice things up.

I don't think we know yet that Plastic Cow won't be involved. While last we heard they were not involved, the annoucement of a second season was just made very recently. It's a good possibility that no one is involved yet and they just haven't gotten around to signing on Plastic Cow again.

[Rabi~en~Rose]

Rave I don't care for and it's edited for the old Toonami, which it was intended for.

I can one up that.... SDG was made for Toonami! :eek:

[Youko Recca]

I can one up that.... SDG was made for Toonami! :eek:
Really? If it was then it was made for, you guessed it, the Toonami I refered to in that quote.

[Rabi~en~Rose]

old toonami or current one I see no difference and since SD was made for Toonami general they are going to want to air it there because they would want it to be with the brandname they invested in the series to begin with :confused:

[William C. Maune]

If SD Gundam was made for Toonami, it was made for a different Toonami. Ignoring the change in the focus demographic for the moment, the Toonami SD Gundam was made for (assuming it was) aired weekdays. Toonami now airs on Saturday nights only. You can't get 5 day a week exposure on a one day a week block.

[Youko Recca]

Exactly Chris, I don't hate SD or anything like that but it just doesn't seem fitting for this Toonami.

[Sampo]

I don't think we know yet that Plastic Cow won't be involved. While last we heard they were not involved, the annoucement of a second season was just made very recently. It's a good possibility that no one is involved yet and they just haven't gotten around to signing on Plastic Cow again.
I sorta see your point. But looking at what Duel Master wrote in this post here (http://forums.toonzone.net/showpost.php?p=1364165&postcount=28), he wasn't aware of the second season till the last minute. So he had to quickly create a tie in for the next season. Thus one can assume that they are not having a part in it. I really hope that I am wrong and want to see Plastic Cow back with their crazy antics though:sweat:

[Andrew T. Hingson]

New Toonami is just different enough of beast to keep SD Gundam off of it. At least I would think so.

[Ultra8]

Hmmm... On the one hand if it's on Miguzi it'll be weekday show, which means I'll get a daily dose. On the other hand if it's on Toonami it'll be weekly, but it'll be on with the rest of my favorites, plus Op.:D

I'd say Toonami for now.

[Andrew T. Hingson]

NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Have you guys figured out I loathe the idea of this show being on Toonami yet?

[Cyber E.]

When Toonami is aimed at 18-year-olds and above, it will be sure to listen to your opinion on what does and does not belong on the block. You can bicker and bicker all you want, but they aren't aiming to please you. They are aiming to please their demographic.

If you want to watch X-Men: Evolution or Rurouni Kenshin so bad, you can get the DVDs.

[Andrew T. Hingson]

I'd gladly buy a Kenshin box set if I could FREAK'N FIND ONE.

Not online BTW.

I may not be a "teenager" anymore (though I sorta am until October when I turn 20). But I have many younger friends and I support their desires to see Kenshin again.

I'd say there's a minimal amount of my younger friends who like SD Gundam much less tollerate it. Infact... I think HellCat is the only guy I know who actually likes it. Could be more... not many.

I don't ever feel the urge to force my thoughts on Miguzi because I'm way out of that range. But I'm still generally in the Toonami realm of things despite being out of the demo.

[Rabi~en~Rose]

SD Gundam is more Gundam then Gundam Seed is (wow thats a lot of gundams) :sweat:

but anyway like Hamtaro did before it SD Gundam brought in a lot of ratings from all ages and alot of attention to the block and what could be so bad about getting Toonami some more attention?

[Youko Recca]

SD Gundam is more Gundam then Gundam Seed is (wow thats a lot of gundams) :sweat:

but anyway like Hamtaro did before it SD Gundam brought in a lot of ratings from all ages and alot of attention to the block and what could be so bad about getting Toonami some more attention?Wow...you try too hard to break people like that. Toonami doesn't need no shows that have no teen appeal to hold it back even more from achieving it's goal. End. Of. Story.

[Rabi~en~Rose]

yeah but it needs shows to bring attention to the block and get people interested in the proper shows right?

sounds familiar?

AS Saturdays! :eek:

we may or may not hate it but it kind of seems like a useful tool

[Youko Recca]

Yes! You're right! SD Gundam will bring in the teenagers who like making out in the back of a Chevy pick-up! Damn me for not comparing this to ASA which is a completely different situation!

[LightShadow1890]

But the whole block needs to atleast try and work it's way towards becoming something a teenager would watch. Rave I don't care for and it's edited for the old Toonami, which it was intended for. Now it's just a waste of space. SD I can't see helping at all. So help me, if S-CRY-ed is coming I'll stop hitting people for a week.
That's what I think of SD Gundam. Kids would watch it, but teenagers, not likely. Miguzi's the only thing cuz of the demograph. They need something up a notch, yet qualified. What Miguzi shows might as well be kids shows.

The reason why SD Gundam appeared in Toonami in the first place was because it was the only teenage action block at that time. And since other Gundam shows appeared there and other Toonami-related blocks, it was thrown in there.

Now think of two action blocks. They're different demopgrpahs. You can't just put SD Gundam into Toonami, it wouldn't fit with YYH and DBGT.

They could always use Cardcaptors. And .hack//DUSK(Legend of Twilight Bracelet). .hack needs a better time slot, in my opinion.

[HellCat]

That's what I think of SD Gundam. Kids would watch it, but teenagers, not likely. Miguzi's the only thing cuz of the demograph. They need something up a notch, yet qualified. What Miguzi shows might as well be kids shows.

The reason why SD Gundam appeared in Toonami in the first place was because it was the only teenage action block at that time. And since other Gundam shows appeared there and other Toonami-related blocks, it was thrown in there.

Now think of two action blocks. They're different demopgrpahs. You can't just put SD Gundam into Toonami, it wouldn't fit with YYH and DBGT.

They could always use Cardcaptors. And .hack//DUSK(Legend of Twilight Bracelet). .hack needs a better time slot, in my opinion.
Ignoring Toonami, I could see DBGT and SD Gundam airing close togethor easily. It's not like GT is really aiming for a mature audience.

[Youko Recca]

Yeah GT is part of the half that still caters to the 6-11 crowd.

[Shadow_Wolf75]

Rabi, quit while you're ahead, please? Well, not that you're that much ahead after mentioning Hamtaro, which didn't even belong on the OLD toonami, much less the new one! At least SD Gundam had explosions and crap, which at least made it somewhat fit on the old Toonami.

But old Toonami's dead, we have Miguzi as it's replacement. SD Gundam belongs there now, it CAN'T possibly fit in with YYH and Gundam Seed. As for Rave Master, that show doesn't belong on Toonami either, and probably the only reason it hasn't been moved is because of the aformentioned contract.

[Chime]

Rave master the TV show isn't that great. they should put Trigun on Toonami instead. (hmm... that was off-topic *ish*)

[Andrew T. Hingson]

Well Trigun could use a better time slot but why go to the effort of editing it for Toonami when they could just air Kenshin instead? I assume they'd probably get the same kind of ratings being as they are quite similiar overall.

[Youko Recca]

They should put Trigun on Toonami instead. (hmm...that was off-topic *ish*)
We've got a better chance of Bleach coming on Toonami by the end of the year...

[Obi]

I like SD Gundam. I really do. I thought it was pretty funny.


But it needs to go to Miguzi. Miguzi targets boys/girls 6-11. Toonami targets boys 9-14 (if Bob Higgins said so, that should be good enough for anyone...unless they think he's lying for some reason).

Put the target range together with the very light hearted, childish atmosphere and overall cuteseyness of it all, and it belongs on Miguzi.

[Rabi~en~Rose]

I'll give up when SD shows up on Miguzi or when Hyper gives up Kenshin ever coming back before the contract is up :)

[Andrew T. Hingson]

Kenshin needs to come back some how. WS loves the series.

CN didn't really show intentions of canning the airings for good. But no one can really tell how long this hiatus will last.

At least Kenshin being on Toonami makes more sense than SD Gundam.

[Rabi~en~Rose]

kenshins almost been gone a whole year just like hamtaro.... :eek:

hey maybe kenshin will come back in Block Party form!

[Andrew T. Hingson]

Kenshin has been gone from Toonami for over a year now but it's only been gone from CN since early April.

I can't even remember the last time I saw Hamtaro... But Hamtaro is coming back.

Hey now there's an idea... premiere new Kenshin on the Saturday block party. Season 3 is just waisting away afterall.