Official SDCC coverage - DCAU Thread [Archive]

Squall

07-22-2004, 01:46 AM

It's about time they started making figures that people wanted! What took them so long? :sad: Here's hoping they'll continue making new JLU figures, as well as figures of characters from JL that were never made when JL was running... At the very least, they could split the JL/JLU figure series into five seperate mini-series, so to speak... :D

-the Justice League
-the Gotham City set
-the Injustice Gang & Secret Society
-the Apokolips set
-the New Genesis set

The possibilities for figures, vehicles, and playsets are quite endless, actually!

JustJack

07-22-2004, 02:13 AM

Super (http://www.superherotimes.com/newsarchive/000126.php) Hero Times (http://www.superherotimes.com/newsarchive/000126.php) has updated their SDCC coverage, and have posted pics of the new proposed Batman toys. And there is some incredible good news. It looks like there are only 3 new Batman variants for the next wave of figures (and three new deluxe ones.) And aside from the white-ice Batsy and the orange thing(boo), they seem to be focusing in on darker color schemes. And if that's not good enough news, we have 3 brand spanking new VILLIANS coming out! WOOT! We get a good full-body look at what Man-Bat's going to look like (grey? Hmm..), as well as a full-body shot of Bane (I've never seen a more oddly shaped body.) and our first look at FIREFLY! (I like)

And yes. Bane's red. All I can say is damn damn damnididdly damn. I do kinda like the teeth, though. But, I'm sure I'll be alone on that. Otherwise, Man-bat looks great, and the deluxe winged batman figure looks like a must. So, go see for yourself. You'll smile a little, then you'll gag a little. It's to be expected.

Karkull

07-22-2004, 02:19 AM

Damn it, I promised myself I wouldn't buy these. Now I've got to track down the ones I ditched.

:(

JackKnight

07-22-2004, 02:22 AM

BeyondGotham

07-22-2004, 02:30 AM

We've got some pics from both the toy line and the animated series:

http://batmanytb.150m.com/exclusives/comiccon/cc014.jpg
Mr. Freeze!

http://batmanytb.150m.com/exclusives/comiccon/cc22.jpg

BANE!

There's lots more...
Two Places to go either here:
http://batmanytb.150m.com/exclusives/comiccon/wed.htm

or here:

http://batmanytb.proboards24.com/in...&num=1090431094 (http://batmanytb.proboards24.com/index.cgi?board=comiccon&action=display&num=1090431094)

We've got more on the way!

Karkull

07-22-2004, 02:38 AM

Wait a minute...these are showing up in those stupid four packs, right? So when all is said and done I'll have fifty Batman figures.

JustJack

07-22-2004, 02:56 AM

Freeze is in desperate need of A.) goggles...B.) a helmet...that big block of ice wrapped around his head is bound to melt quickly. One 'splosion and he's kapput. and C.) a little more...age. I've never visioned Mr. Freeze as a...young bold looking guy. Granted, the design kinda leaves a lot for the imagination as far as his real physical appearance goes....but the round shapely figure suggests he's a bit too young. Nothing beats Timm's dark angular old and bitter looking freeze. Especially when he's walking on spider legs....

Nick K.

07-22-2004, 03:20 AM

Hmmm.. to say the least this show will be different. The action figures look cool annd the animation looks good too. I'm definitely tuning in. I hope it's good.

BeyondGotham

07-22-2004, 03:21 AM

I agree with that about Freeze. But he looks ALOT better that Bane.. OMG, that thing looks.. well, the figure is cool.. but I just don't like how it looks...

Nick K.

07-22-2004, 03:29 AM

If they show up in four packs I will yell. :D

I love that J'onn has a headpiece to communicate. They outdid themselves with accessories!

RedBoot

07-22-2004, 03:48 AM

I have an immediate need for the Dr. Fate and Green Arrow figures, and probably Aquaman and Elongated Man too...plus all the original Leaguers I missed, which would be all of them...I have Darkseid though...

Fone Bone

07-22-2004, 06:29 AM

OH. MY. GOD! Those are awesome! I'm picking up ALL of them! They look SO sweet! b.t. was right, the difference between JL and JLU IS toys!

Where are the Ultra Humanite and Solomon Grundy?

ArtificialIdiot

07-22-2004, 08:13 AM

Freeze's suit looks pretty good from what I can see of it, however, I'm not enthusiastic about that big lump of ice on his head...

I need to see Firefly animated! I can't make a judgement on that figure, as I don't know what that ugly tank on his back will look like in the series.

Man-bat looked far more impressive on the comic cover, however that is a very nice figure as far as the wings go!

As for Bane... He's red. Enough said.

I haven't looked at all the animated show pictures yet, but Alfred is looking good! Penguin looks better then he did in the comic and Catwoman seems to have the HUSH style goggles going on. Although, they don't look right on the loose mask imo (at least it doesn't seem that tight)

Supremus

07-22-2004, 08:29 AM

Well, that should be enough to shut up the "things-never-change-it's-all-neon-repaints"-brigade :)

Toddman

07-22-2004, 09:17 AM

Hmmm...no new "bald headed" Green Lantern figure, though?

Toddman

Ed Liu

07-22-2004, 09:47 AM

Howdy,

Can their presence in the display give us hope that they're going to ship more Hawkgirl and Wonder Woman figures?

Regardless, Atom and Dr. Fate look monster cool. I've also seen more pictures of the Ultra-Humanite figure (http://www.mwctoys.com/REVIEW_071904a.htm) out of his packaging, which I gotta find at the neighborhood stores.

-- Ed/Ace

Karkull

07-22-2004, 10:03 AM

Well, that should be enough to shut up the "things-never-change-it's-all-neon-repaints"-brigade :)
Wait for it...:p

The Frog

07-22-2004, 10:34 AM

If Price Gavyn is with the figures, does that mean he'll appear in JLU?

Bird Boy

07-22-2004, 10:49 AM

heheheh...finally, a 10" Hawkgirl. Now I can pick up J'onn and Aquaman when I find them...again. :o

Though, with the new series, they'll probably re-ship them all--especially if they're displaying them all.

-BB

BeastBoyWonder

07-22-2004, 12:54 PM

Superhero Hype!'s got "The Batman (http://www.superherohype.com/batman/index.php?id=1767)" pictures.

Killtacular

07-22-2004, 01:52 PM

Mr. Freeze. Worst. Design. Ever.

EDIT: It's official. Bruce Wayne's design sucks. He looks like Jackie Chan from Jackie Chan Adventures.
Um.. how? The headshape is NOTHING like Jackie's, and the eyes seem based on the more recent variations of Bruce in Static Shock and Justice League with the colored pupils, he simply dotted them. Jackie certainly doesn't have a nose that large and... square. I think you're just going into this with a pre-set opinion.

Killtacular

07-22-2004, 01:56 PM

Bird Boy

07-22-2004, 02:09 PM

Bane is the first Batman design I don't agree with. Though he certainly looks intimidating and creepy (which is what The Batman villains should look like, if we're dealing with Batman when he's less confident and prolific), he also.. looks like the Joel Schumaker Bane from Batman and Robin. Not a good thing.

Indeed. I like the Joker, love Man-Bat, Penguin's ok...but Bane? He, quite frankly, looks like a gorilla. Noteably in this (http://69.93.119.2/photosSHTC/data/571/1DSCN0013.JPG) picture--it is a figure, but...he literally looks like a gorilla. Thick torso, arms and spindly waist and ankles. I don't know how that things standing up, to be honest...

As for Bruce looking like Jackie Chan--he may bare resemblances, but how that makes it immediately "suck" is beyond me. I never saw anything wrong with Jackie Chan's design, so maybe it's just me...

-BB

Killtacular

07-22-2004, 02:30 PM

And it's not like the creative team has a huge history producing quality animated series.
Many people here would disagree. To be honest, Gargoyles and MIB:TAS aren't my thing but they are worshipped in circles on this forum so be careful what you say.

Killtacular

07-22-2004, 03:22 PM

I don't have full credits on my person yet. The Comic Con panel should at least mention some if not the majority of the writing staff, and of course some of them SHOULD BE at the panel. Annoying that the panel description at SDCC's website didn't actually provide a list of people who were on it.

JustJack

07-22-2004, 04:26 PM

A little off topic, but since they're attached to all the links...anyone else notice the new grey/blue batman figure in the "comic" Batman toy line? Aside from the fantastic Bane(with teddy bear!) and Scarecrow figures...we're getting a brand new Batman with 26 points of articulation!!!!!!!

Mattel must have finally smacked their shareholders into allowing them to do their jobs right. Here we have the biggest and best variety of DC characters in the Timm animated style from JLU, the animated Batman line is getting more villians, less neon. Oh, and the main Batman line isn't full of pure crap anymore. Plus, we not only finally have elbow-jointed figures, but a 26-poa BATMAN.

Mattel....thy name shall be redemption one day...if only you keep this up.

squashua

07-22-2004, 05:28 PM

we're getting a brand new Batman with 26 points of articulation!!!!!!!

If that's the one standing next to an articulated Batgirl that you're talking about; that's from the Microman(?) series from Japan. It's a Japanese import.

The Transformers fans are really jazzed about it because their "Kicker" guy is also a Microman(?) and it makes them hope that, like, the whole series of these supremely articulated action figures that are somehow related to the Transformers are coming here from overseas.

I doubt it, myself, but hey who knows.

Then-again, it's yet another Batman action figure.

My apologies for going off topic.

JustJack

07-22-2004, 05:50 PM

If that's the one standing next to an articulated Batgirl that you're talking about; that's from the Microman(?) series from Japan. It's a Japanese import.
Nooooooooooo.......the main COMIC line. There is a 6" Batman figure, grey and blue color scheme, done in the Four Horsemen style, with 26 points of articulation.

SEEEE you non-believer!!!
http://www.action-figure.com/images/04/07/batmannew/DSC01567.jpg (http://www.action-figure.com/Article12316.html)

Nick K.

07-22-2004, 05:51 PM

If Greg Wesiman is working on The Batman then I think it will definitely be good. Gargoyles ruled!

DarkLantern

07-22-2004, 07:56 PM

If Price Gavyn is with the figures, does that mean he'll appear in JLU?
Do I really need to tell you?

DL

HelloKittyKat

07-23-2004, 04:26 AM

Holy Crap these look awesome!! I am one of the biggest Starman fans ever, and I'm finally getting a Prince Gavynn figure...from Mattell? whoda thunk? :D I am down for all of these figureshttp://www.forums.toonzone.net/images/smilies/smile.gif
At first I thought it was just an oddly-colored Booster Gold.

A part of me has died inside since we won't get Ted or Jack Knight as the first animated Starman. But hey, those Green Arrow and Aquaman figures should make up for my distress.

squashua

07-23-2004, 09:40 AM

SEEEE you non-believer!!!
http://www.action-figure.com/images/04/07/batmannew/DSC01567.jpg (http://www.action-figure.com/Article12316.html)

No, 'cause you linked to a picture that's no longer there; ah clicking the link takes me to a gallery of a somewhat unfinished Batman action figure. Eh.

matta2fatta

07-23-2004, 11:46 AM

Its not fair all them heroes are gonna gang up on amazo we need more villians

Mysteryinfoman

07-23-2004, 12:10 PM

Today's the Warner Bros animation today at 4:30, right after the CN studios panel. ;)

JackKnight

07-23-2004, 12:32 PM

At first I thought it was just an oddly-colored Booster Gold.

A part of me has died inside since we won't get Ted or Jack Knight as the first animated Starman. But hey, those Green Arrow and Aquaman figures should make up for my distress.
I know exactly what you mean about Jack:((my favorite series of all time), but I figure I can't change it, aye?

-JK

DisneyBoy

07-23-2004, 01:43 PM

Okay...

...Mattel has stepped up and is FINALLY trying to produce a variety of figures...

...MY problem is...that they all look like Superman. Amazo, Fate, Green Arrow...they all have the hulking torsos, skinny legs and no real character to them...don't get me wrong, I'm all for "model sheet" poses, but wouldn't differenciating the stances of the characters make them more unique? For example, that Green Arrow is standing with an arrow in one hand and a bow in the other. Don't know about the rest of you, but I was hoping to see his arms moulded in such a way that he could actually "shoot" an arrow. And seeing that design drawing of the recent Wonder Woman figure only makes me long for the days when Hasbro was willing to put Catwoman in a semi-crouching position. The Wondie in this line would bear no resemblance to a mannequin if the sculptors took some inspiration from that drawing.

Am I happy to see some new faces? YES YES YES!!! I just wish they didn't look quite so much like all the others. Hopefully Mattel will take some time to fix Wondie one of these days (How about a longer torso, functional legs and no more chicken arms?), help all the newbies to stand straight and give some sense of identity to these figures. They're all starting to look the same.

I'm definately looking forward to seeing Zatanna, Supergirl, Thanagarian Armor Shayera and Hro, Joker, Dr Destiny, Cheetah, Ares and Circe. These heroes need villains...

Still this is a good sign. As Fone Bone said, "Timm was right" and amen for that.

...and is it just me or is J'onn the only one of them who wouldn't need a headset to communicate with the Leaguers?

Thanks for the pictures folks...

Mysteryinfoman

07-23-2004, 11:32 PM

WB animation panel-they showed clips of TT, JLU, and The Batman. I missed the TT scene but got to see the JLU preview, it was great showed Mongul and superman and Supes beat the crap outta him painfully. The CG looked good, better than previously. Then they showed a fight scene with Green arrow, Supergirl,the atom and GL fighting some giant monster. They also showed a whole The Batman episode, it looked real good. Great action, great sound plus the fight scene between batman and man-bat was great. BT talked about "Starcrossed" and JLU and the basic stuff. I really liked the Batman episode and the JLU preview.

Nick K.

07-23-2004, 11:35 PM

Thanks for the inf! DId anyone ask about the JLU Season 1 finale titles as nothing suggested? :p

Also, Atom seems to be in Initiation in a big way then, or so it seems...

Mysteryinfoman

07-23-2004, 11:37 PM

I was surprised but they only had Q&A for The batman but not for JLU or TT which was a bit disappointing.

Mysteryinfoman

07-24-2004, 12:14 AM

Oh, and was there any mention of new B:TAS, S:TAS, JL and BB DVDs? Thanks.Yeah, when Sam Resigter said who got the new BTAS dvds, people put there hands up or shouted. Only mention I can think of.

Nick K.

07-24-2004, 12:30 AM

You sure you don't mean Captain Atom was fighting Brimstone with Green Arrow, Supergirl and Green Lantern?

That is probablly what he meant... :p

Sue

07-24-2004, 12:53 AM

Damn it, I promised myself I wouldn't buy these. Now I've got to track down the ones I ditched.

:(I know. Before, I wasn't too interested in the JL figures except for WW and HG, but now that they have more articulation, I just might break down and get some :sweat: Now if only Mattel (or even better, DC Direct) made a HG figure wearing her Thanagarian uniform and with a removable helmet....BTW, looking at Tim's pictures, I couldn't tell if the girls had posable knees and elbows. Do they?

PeterFries

07-24-2004, 03:03 AM

BTW, looking at Tim's pictures, I couldn't tell if the girls had posable knees and elbows. Do they?
No, they don't.

HelloKittyKat

07-24-2004, 04:30 AM

I know exactly what you mean about Jack:((my favorite series of all time), but I figure I can't change it, aye?

-JK
That's what you think, my friend. *shifty eyes, gets closer to Cosmic Treadmill . . .*

BeyondGotham

07-24-2004, 09:46 AM

Okay, here's the run down from tha Panels yesterday, there will be some small spoilers..

This is from our Staffer RiskDogg
"TEEN TITANS" PANEL: Basically an introduction video which featured a new music video of the theme with crazy Japanese girls. Then most of the cast came out:
Ron Pelrman As Slade
Tara Strong as Raven
the names escape me, but the voices of Robin (menville i think) and Beast Boy. The director and Glen M. were there. SPOILERS THEY SAID: Season 3, we'll see a return of Slade in a weird/cool way, a story around cyborg, and a huge villain appearance, Brother Blood!
Season 4: Story about Raven. Im pretty sure Tara whispered "daddy", but who knows.

JLU PANEL: They showed some long clips from the new episodes, and then BRUCE TIMM came on stage! He joined Dwayne McDuffie, Stan Berkowitz, and some others (best moment of my life) (I was in front row http://216.40.206.219/boardimages/smiley.gif ) Timm then tried to remember and list all of the new villains we'll be seeing, where he said the best line of the day: (he was trying to remember the new villains "We got a million heroes and no villains, it's like the toy line!" -Bruce Timm (the crowd erupted, Sam Register, Head of WB Animation yelled jokingly 'Hear that Mattel!)So some new villains: Villains: Superman/Apokoplyps characetrs (Granny something, Kalaba something, Amazo the android comes back, Luthor

Bruce Timm said something about Gail Simone writing a Huntress/The Question/Green Arrow/Black Canary story but he might have been joking.

They ARE doing a Starcrossed sequal and the Thanagarians come back

They had some cool clips but we werent allowed to film, one had Batman and Green Arrow talking in the new HQ when they see Black Canary and Green Arrow is attracted LOL

"THE BATMAN" PANEL! The best of the day! They played a FULL episode with Man-Bat! It was AWESOME!! The show is like MTV Spiderman Content mixed with new-age graphics (NO ANIME) Turns out the episode was NOT the pilot, but the 4th episode. They said they were ahead of schedule and had about 5 episoded to choose from to show at the Con and they chose that one. ***** SPOILERS*****The intro is cool, quick and cool music (no lyrics, just kinda a guitar ballad)

Okay, from here is is a LONG detailed description of the Episode, so I'll link to our site. If you want to read go there, if not.. thats cool too! We will get pics up today.

Everything sounds very cool!

http://batmanytb.proboards24.com/index.cgi?board=comiccon&action=display&num=1090599706

I love the part about the toy line.. it's pretty bad when the people who make the show feel the same way we do!

Knight

07-24-2004, 11:03 AM

I have heard elsewhere that they said Captain Marvel would appear is there any truth to that?

Robin

07-24-2004, 02:58 PM

The panel for The Batman sounded very painful - it was forced to an end according to Toonzone's coverage. Ouch!

http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=117208

Nick K.

07-24-2004, 03:56 PM

Thanks Beyond Gotham. That Huntress story seems to be true because that woman said she was writing an episode. Also, GA though BC was hot! Yes! :)

Yojimbo

07-25-2004, 12:32 AM

Ah this sounds like a Season Four episode. It was announced in another thread that Gail Simone said she was writing an episode. Hence it is ture! Haha. Wonder which season the starcrossed sequel is.

Sue

07-25-2004, 01:19 AM

No, they don't.That swallows. I wonder how come? Anyways the Thangarian's rematch sounds awesome! Bet there's gonna be hell to pay :evil:

Mysteryinfoman

07-25-2004, 02:07 AM

Yeah Bruce mentioned that Captain Marvel would appear and how the crew went though a list of DC characters and asking DC for premission.
They ARE doing a Starcrossed sequal and the Thanagarians come back A sequel? I know he said the Thanagarians would return but a direct sequel to "Satrcrossed", not so sure.

PeterFries

07-25-2004, 02:11 AM

That swallows. I wonder how come?
The female figures have really thin legs and arms. Yes, even thinner than the male figures' legs. Joints would be really difficult to make work.

On the plus side, they are the most "on model" DCAU female figures available. I just wish there were more. :(

I'd love to see Mattel make Black Canary, Huntress, Star Sapphire figures...

Lucky Bob

07-25-2004, 02:38 AM

http://batmanytb.150m.com/exclusives/comiccon/cc22.jpg

RAAAAAR, I AM BLACK HULK.

(Sorry, Matt.)

Killtacular

07-25-2004, 03:07 PM

Did anyone ask why Cartoon Network banned Wild Cards?

Bats2007

07-26-2004, 12:52 AM

A sequel? I know he said the Thanagarians would return but a direct sequel to "Satrcrossed", not so sure.
I know, seems doubtful, but Dwayne McDuffie's exact words were "we just finished a Starcrossed sequel"

Nick K.

07-26-2004, 01:00 AM

Did anyone ask why Cartoon Network banned Wild Cards?

I'm not sure why, but I think I might know. Unfortunately, I think it has something to do with the negative feedback from the Hawkgirl/ Green Lantern kiss. At least, that is rather likely, which is a shame.

Clark

07-26-2004, 03:10 AM

Whoa! Those JL figures rock! I'll definately be getting Atom, Aquaman, Dr. Fate, Green Arrow, AMAZO and Brainiac.

My main gripe, though, is if Mattel can give decent articulation to the new figures, why can't they do the same for Batman and Superman figures? I'm tired of seeing Bats and Supes with big bulbous pins sticking out of their arms and legs.

Ultra8

07-26-2004, 05:03 AM

The figures for the JLU and TBM looked good, my only complaint was that there was no "pre pump/venom" Bane or a MR. Freeze figure. Because the scenes they were showing at Mattel's booth showed a short clip of a first encounter with bane before and after he pumps up.

So that was a Starman, :eek: I thought it was an oddly colored Booster Gold.

b.t.

07-26-2004, 02:59 PM

Did anyone ask why Cartoon Network banned Wild Cards?

according to my sources at cn, "wild cards" HASN'T been banned....since they re-run the episodes pretty much in order, it just hasn't come up again in rotation, due to the vagaries of jl's "on again/off again" scheduling status....

Toddman

07-26-2004, 04:47 PM

I'm not sure why, but I think I might know. Unfortunately, I think it has something to do with the negative feedback from the Hawkgirl/ Green Lantern kiss. At least, that is rather likely, which is a shame.
There was negative feedback about the GL/Hawkgirl kiss? From who?

Toddman

Nick K.

07-26-2004, 04:48 PM

There was negative feedback about the GL/Hawkgirl kiss? From who?

Toddman

Foolishly upset parents.... :rolleyes:

Alex Weitzman

07-26-2004, 05:31 PM

The panel for The Batman sounded very painful - it was forced to an end according to Toonzone's coverage. Ouch!
Despite being one of the folks less than thrilled with The Batman's first showing, I should still point out that its panel's premature finale had little to do with the quality of the show. Rather, the WB animation panel had an hour and a half to get through three shows (Teen Titans, JLU, The Batman), and Goghen and Capizzi decided to use most of their allotted time by showing a full episode. If Titans and JLU were less popular and people asked less question, maybe The Batman would've had more room to stretch, but that's obviously not the case. :)

Not that I'm entirely contradicting your call on the panel being "painful". Goghen and Capizzi spent most of their time fielding questions that were in direct (and unfavorable) comparison to Timm's classic series.

An interesting sidebar from the Comic Book: The Movie panel: Tom Kenny, the new Penguin on The Batman, gave us a quick rendition of the character that pretty much screamed "Burgess Meredith". Then he confirmed our immediate suspicions on the inspiration of the voice and told us the story of how he got the job: at his audition, they told him that they did not want anything Meredith-like about his voice. So he went through three varieties on the character, and when they asked for one more, he decided "What the hell?" and pulled out a Burgess impression. When he was called back, they pulled out the tape of the audition, said "This is the one we like," and fast-forwarded it to his Burgess Meredith clip.

Killtacular

07-26-2004, 06:26 PM

Foolishly upset parents.... :rolleyes:
Nope. That's not correct. BS&P protects CN from frivolous lawsuits and letters. Where on earth did you even hear that? Whenever someone says "parents got mad" it always seems they're just making it up to stir up the hornet's nest.

IMO, I assumed the BS&P frowned upon the real-world setting of the episode.

according to my sources at cn, "wild cards" HASN'T been banned....since they re-run the episodes pretty much in order, it just hasn't come up again in rotation, due to the vagaries of jl's "on again/off again" scheduling status....
As I recall (I don't have the old revised grids for Q3 2003-Q1 04), the episode was skipped over in the encore run. It was originally scheduled, but then was taken off. Maybe that's changed now, but at one point it was withheld from broadcast. :/

Nick K.

07-26-2004, 06:33 PM

Nope. That's not correct. BS&P protects CN from frivolous lawsuits and letters. Where on earth did you even hear that? Whenever someone says "parents got mad" it always seems they're just making it up to stir up the hornet's nest.

IMO, I assumed the BS&P frowned upon the real-world setting of the episode.

As I recall (I don't have the old revised grids for Q3 2003-Q1 04), the episode was skipped over in the encore run. It was originally scheduled, but then was taken off. Maybe that's changed now, but at one point it was withheld from broadcast. :/

Well, I didn't make that up. Back when the episode aired tons of parents e-mailed Dwayne McDuffie with comments like "How could you air that"... and such. Hence, they were foolishly upset. Now we know that seems not to be the reason, as it isn't being withheld according to b.t., but I thought it might have been.

Killtacular

07-26-2004, 07:07 PM

Well, I didn't make that up. Back when the episode aired tons of parents e-mailed Dwayne McDuffie with comments like "How could you air that"... and such. Hence, they were foolishly upset. Now we know that seems not to be the reason, as it isn't being withheld according to b.t., but I thought it might have been.
I'm surprised that they could research and find Dwayne's personal email address since it's not mentioned anywhere in the credits. Also doesn't seem like anyone raised a stink over all of the love angles in Starcrossed.

Nick K.

07-26-2004, 07:36 PM

I'm surprised that they could research and find Dwayne's personal email address since it's not mentioned anywhere in the credits. Also doesn't seem like anyone raised a stink over all of the love angles in Starcrossed.

You can e-mail him from his site.

And, I guess the love angle reason was wrong anyway. :shrug:

Sue

07-27-2004, 01:37 AM

There was negative feedback about the GL/Hawkgirl kiss? From who?

ToddmanThis isn't much of an example, but I remember this one moron at DC's message boards who was a racist and absolutely hated the HG/GL pairing. When Wild Cards aired, she was pissed to say the least :rolleyes:

Knight

07-27-2004, 09:19 AM

This isn't much of an example, but I remember this one moron at DC's message boards who was a racist and absolutely hated the HG/GL pairing. When Wild Cards aired, she was pissed to say the least :rolleyes:

Thats sad people need to get over it.On a side note was this the first ever interacial animated kiss on a american tv show? Im sure its not but im curious. I think the first ever interacial kiss on tv period was Kirk and Uhura on Star Trek.

Toddman

07-27-2004, 09:46 AM

Thats sad people need to get over it.On a side note was this the first ever interacial animated kiss on a american tv show? Im sure its not but im curious. I think the first ever interacial kiss on tv period was Kirk and Uhura on Star Trek.

Did Commissioner Barbara Gordon ever kiss her husband, D.A. Sam Young, on Batman Beyond?

If not, I know Terry McGinnis kissed Dana Tan, and that would have also been interracial.

Toddman

Karkull

07-27-2004, 03:25 PM

According to Animation Magazine (August 2004), Spellbinder and Cluemaster will be included as villains in the new The Batman series. These issues were handed out at San Diego ComicCon to fans.

All-Star 1.5

07-27-2004, 04:34 PM

If they already have The Riddler why are they going to use the Cluemaster; I mean aren't they sort of the same character I wonder how he will be different.

Doomsday

07-27-2004, 06:43 PM

Thats sad people need to get over it.On a side note was this the first ever interacial animated kiss on a american tv show? Im sure its not but im curious. I think the first ever interacial kiss on tv period was Kirk and Uhura on Star Trek.

Are you guys forgeting when Bugs Bunny kiss other guys and aliens now and then in Looney Tunes. People are having probblems when a man kiss a women with wings but don't care when a guy rabbit kisses a human man. Geez people come on, if you were GL you would do the same thing and kiss Hawkgirl, so what she has wings, as long as shes hot theres no reason not to.

Nick K.

07-27-2004, 06:58 PM

Are you guys forgeting when Bugs Bunny kiss other guys and aliens now and then in Looney Tunes. People are having probblems when a man kiss a women with wings but don't care when a guy rabbit kisses a human man. Geez people come on, if you were GL you would do the same thing and kiss Hawkgirl, so what she has wings, as long as shes hot theres no reason not to.

It was more about GL being black and Hawkgirl being white.

ArtificialIdiot

07-27-2004, 07:07 PM

If they already have The Riddler why are they going to use the Cluemaster; I mean aren't they sort of the same character I wonder how he will be different.

Well, if Cluemaster quite literally is a Riddler fan-boy and copied him, it COULD be interesing to see how that turns out :)

maxnugget

07-27-2004, 07:25 PM

Personally I cannot comprehend the mentality by which a parent who dislikes the content of a TV show would sooner write letters and campaign with other soccer moms to make the show change it's content (or force it off the air) rather than simply stop their kids from watching it. In my mind it's much easier to not let your kid watch a show than to say "I don't want my kid watching this, therefore I'm going to make sure that no one's kids watch it."

The only interpretations I can make on that kind of action are:

A) You're being grotesquely selfish, trying to get rid of a show that thousands/millions of people enjoy and don't have a problem with, all so that your kid can't defy your orders and watch the show when you're not around to police him

B) You think you're standing up for all the other parents out there who are also outraged by a show's content, or "should be" outraged. In reality, you're telling other adults how to raise their children, and spreading your ideals about the selfishness in reason A to other adults

C) You're aggressively attempting to suppress the speech of others. When the government does this, it's censorship. When corporations do this, it's usually either immoral, scandalous, or anticompetitive. Do parents think they represent a cause that's above all this? If I were to tell the parents in a Catholic family that they're doing a bad job raising their kids to be good Catholics, they'd be mighty angry. They should be just as angry if I tell them they're being bad parents by letting their kids watch power rangers.

Bird Boy

07-27-2004, 07:57 PM

According to Animation Magazine (August 2004), Spellbinder and Cluemaster will be included as villains in the new The Batman series. These issues were handed out at San Diego ComicCon to fans.

Spellbinder, eh? With no continuity to mess with, I guess using BB villains is fair game. Spiffy keen...

-BB

Toddman

07-27-2004, 08:24 PM

Spellbinder, eh? With no continuity to mess with, I guess using BB villains is fair game. Spiffy keen...

-BB
Well, the original Spellbinder from the comics first appeared in Detective Comics #358. He was an art forger with no secret identity who was able to hypnotize people into seeing realistic illusions. The BB villain was a more fleshed-out interpretation of that character.

Toddman

Sue

07-27-2004, 11:11 PM

Thats sad people need to get over it.On a side note was this the first ever interacial animated kiss on a american tv show? Im sure its not but im curious.
You're right. Unfortunately, there are lots of gene pool skimmings like that out there :mad: Storm and Wolverine kissed in the old X-Men cartoon. I don't remember it being anywhere near as passionate as Lantern and Hawkgirl.

Mackaybear

07-28-2004, 02:28 AM

Personally I cannot comprehend the mentality by which a parent who dislikes the content of a TV show would sooner write letters and campaign with other soccer moms to make the show change it's content (or force it off the air) rather than simply stop their kids from watching it. In my mind it's much easier to not let your kid watch a show than to say "I don't want my kid watching this, therefore I'm going to make sure that no one's kids watch it."

The only interpretations I can make on that kind of action are:

A) You're being grotesquely selfish, trying to get rid of a show that thousands/millions of people enjoy and don't have a problem with, all so that your kid can't defy your orders and watch the show when you're not around to police him

B) You think you're standing up for all the other parents out there who are also outraged by a show's content, or "should be" outraged. In reality, you're telling other adults how to raise their children, and spreading your ideals about the selfishness in reason A to other adults

C) You're aggressively attempting to suppress the speech of others. When the government does this, it's censorship. When corporations do this, it's usually either immoral, scandalous, or anticompetitive. If I were to tell the parents in a Catholic family that they're doing a bad job raising their kids to be good Catholics, they'd be mighty angry. They should be just as angry if I tell them they're being bad parents by letting their kids watch power rangers.
You've pretty much called it here. But sadly the true answer may be some form of "all of the above".

Knight

07-28-2004, 07:12 AM

You're right. Unfortunately, there are lots of gene pool skimmings like that out there :mad: Storm and Wolverine kissed in the old X-Men cartoon. I don't remember it being anywhere near as passionate as Lantern and Hawkgirl.
Thanks I remember that episode now I think it was the one where time was altered by Bishops frequent time travels right.

ArtificialIdiot

07-28-2004, 07:51 AM

I suppose people didn't mind that as it wasn't the "real" Storm and Wolverine. I know that sounds crazy, but you have to remember the kind of people we're talking about here. :sweat:

DarkLantern

07-28-2004, 01:40 PM

Just when you think how far we as a society have come, we realize we still have a long way to go...

Alright. I'm off my soapbox...

DL

All-Star 1.5

07-30-2004, 07:31 PM

In case anyone wants to know the site that can't be named has just posted an episode description of the upcoming The Batman episode that features the Cluemaster. And from what I can imagine he sounds sort of different, but not that different from the Riddler..

ArtificialIdiot

07-30-2004, 07:55 PM

Is The Batman actually going to be using the Riddler as well? And if so, shouldn't a Riddler episode come before Cluemaster? :confused:

All-Star 1.5

07-31-2004, 12:08 AM

Is The Batman actually going to be using the Riddler as well? And if so, shouldn't a Riddler episode come before Cluemaster? :confused:
Maybe the crew behind the series has decided to combine traits from both Riddler and Cluemaster and create a new character and call him Cluemaster; maybe the episode airs after a Riddler spotlight and the Riddler will show up in the episode; or maybe they have decided to give Cluemaster an origin that doesn't directly tie into that of The Riddler which seems to be the most likely.

* The Cluemaster episode involves a former game show contestant who kidnaps the other contestants he lost to and stages his own game-show studio in his basement. [website name removed]

The Detective

07-31-2004, 05:17 PM

Wow, someone at Mattel finally woke up and realized that endless repeats of Batman, Superman, Flash, and Green Lantern are not helping the line any. :rolleyes:

Overall this is great news. Though of course, I have a few nitpicks. Doc Fate is too gold and shiny (and his waist is really skinny) AMAZO you'd think would be a pretty hard character to mess up but he's way to short. Green Arrow looks pretty good. Atom too though he's just a Flash repaint with a slightly altered head scuplt. It's funny, it took JLU to get us some JL villians. Brainiac, AMAZO, Ultra-Humanite are all back logs from JL. Now if we can just get a Sinestro, Killer Frost, and Vandal Savage I can die a happy man. :)

Ten inch Hawkgirl is very good news too.

That Bane makes me want to vomit. I'm right now just hoping that's a bad sculpt and not an accurate representation of what he looks like on the show.