My Dcau Is Dead

[king_k4life]

This is pissing me off

First They are creating this new Batman which is some BTAS crap why not just create a Nightwing Series if you don't wanna just create another Batman (old)

Damn JUstice LEague is ending I finally saw Starcrossed for the first time yesterday & I loved it all of thm unmasked ect how can I feel connected to chracters like Hawk & Dove with only 30 minutes.

The worst thing is that they may not be another Static season because of what Politics they can't even have a piece of merchandise "Beebo the freaking super monkey does"-Mr Mcduffie. This **** pissed me off IT is the second highest rated show on Kids WB

So basically the only thing left is JLU

Zeta,BB,SS,BTAS,STAS,S/B, all gone

maybe someone from this team can create a SOlO Flash or another chracter like Aquaman.

[ArtificialIdiot]

I'm not blaming the Batman for it. All good things must come to an end, and while I don't want the DCAU to die, but it had to happen sooner or later.

All I'm really annoyed about, is Toonami in the UK. All they really show of the DCAU is Justice League and Batman of the Future (Which they removed from the SANE, watchable time-slot to make way for X-men Evolution). I just wish they still showed B:TAS and Batman of the Future, THEN I'd be happy :(

[Captain_Lothar]

*coughcoughTeenTitanscoughcough*

You guys are missing Teen Titans here...and yes, I'm just glad there are somethings still around. I mean, JLU ought to be pretty good. Sure, no more 2 parters, but hey, atleast we'll get to see some newer heroes as well as most of our old favorites. And they are releasing older stuff on DvD now. Who here doesn't have the Btas box set? If you don't have it, you're unforunately in the minority. I'm sure with those kinds of sales, Stas is going to make it to DvD, and if those sales are like the Btas, then JL, BB, TT, and perhaps SS will all get to make it to DvD.

[ArtificialIdiot]

*coughcoughTeenTitanscoughcough*

You guys are missing Teen Titans here...and yes, I'm just glad there are somethings still around. Who here doesn't have the Btas box set? If you don't have it, you're unforunately in the minority.

I missed TT as it's not strictly part of the DCAU universe. And to be honest, I wish they could cut at least one re-run of it a day to show something different.

Don't have the B:TAS dvd yet, but I definatly would if I could. I really miss that series.

[GL2k2]

I felt the same way, but I always said that as long as I know the DVD's will be on my shelf, I have no problem with the DCAU ending. BTAS Volume #1 and it's apparent success is a sign that we may be getting the JL DVD box set and as I'm not a huge fan of it, maybe even Batman Beyond.

Also, as of late, I've been thinking that the DCAU really doesn't have to go away completely. If Timm and co. were to do something with "Adam Strange", "The Legion of Superheroes", "Sea Devils", or of course "Kamandi", they could be connected to the DCAU with guest appearances from GL Corps members, intergalatic heroes and villians, immortals, flashbacks, whatever. The point is, sure with these properties we won't see the superheroes that we're used to especially no more Batman, but we would be introduced to a new side the DCAU that would "Showcase" some unique stories that haven't quite been done in animation.

[creeper]

[BEGIN RANT]You know.....i think the thing that makes the demise of these shows so tragic is the fact that they went out before, IMO, they lost steam. BTAS shouldn't have ended, no matter how many eps they had. With good writers, theres always a story to tell. Same thing for Superman and Batman beyond. These shows got screwed because of the WB heads who didn't like dramatic cartoons and thought it would be cheaper to show pokemon. Just like reality shows killed the sitcoms, anime killed our american cartoons. As much cartoon crap as we have BTAS and comp were the best we had. But us fans get screwed because the execs are greedy and as long as they make their buck they could care less about how the fans feel.[/END OF RANT]

[Krypton_Knight]

Mine dies when the last frame of JLU plays, or I decide JLU isn't worth watching. Not before.

KK

[king_k4life]

I am looking foward to JLU


but that is not going to last forever after that dies there is nothing left Nada Zilch


Bring Back Zeta do Zattana anything

This is what I believe is in DCAU

BTAS
STAS
BB
SS
JL
JLU
S/B TAS
Gotham Girls (Web)
Zeta


Why not do a Nightwing series extend Static

A Animated Birds of PRey DTV Movie

A Catwomen one

Not set in this "The Batman" Uni in the DCAU

Why did Dini leave

[William C. Maune]

I am looking foward to JLU


but that is not going to last forever after that dies there is nothing left Nada Zilch

Likely or not, if JLU does well enough Cartoon Network would probably pick more of it, or some sort of extension. There may be nothing else in the pipeline at the moment, but at this time in Justice League's production JLU wasn't planned. At this time in Batman Beyond's production, JL wasn't planned. At this time in Superman's production, Batman Beyond wasn't planned, etc.

[king_k4life]

Static is the Second Highest Rated Show on Kids WB


That is messed up.

Unless there is something in Pre-Production bye the time they announce JLU won't be reknewd then DCAU is dead

hey but there is always THe Batman.

[creativerealms]

You know I understand that the Batman is not looking to good and most people have low hopes for it but isn't ot too soon? I mean The Batman is not trying to over shadow B;TAs, but live with it. It is a very different Batman show.

Also i remember the low expectations Teen Titans got from many people on this and other boards (I have been watching this site for years even though I'm only a new member.) Teen Titans has in my opinion shown that the DCAU can exist as more then a single reality.

[Merlin Missy]

I could see them doing a GL Corps series, especially if the *ackthpp* Jack Black GL movie takes off. Maybe Kyle's adventures in training, interstellar setting, occasional cameos by Our Beloved Cast. Any chance of our guys doing it rather than the "The Batman" crew would be to the good.

Does anyone know when KidsWB will announce if Static's going to be renewed? Would it help at all if we dropped a few letters to Mattel asking where all the Static-related toys are? (And they'll tell us "Subway." But still. Bang babies would make fun action figures.)

MM:)

[Killtacular]

Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't know this was YOUR DCAU.

[king_k4life]

Nope just the DCAU as I know & love it


You have yours & I have mine.

[Supremus]

Nope just the DCAU as I know & love it


You have yours & I have mine.I think the initial statement is a little bit dramatic, but I see you point. Considering how much the various DCAU series have actually changed since BTAS, isn't it possible you could appreciate some of the new series, or is it all about the continuety?

[Killtacular]

I think that ultimately, trying to connect series together into one timeline is just going to lead yourself into a headache. I know with the DCAU it's intentionally supposed to be one timeline but I prefer just thinking of shows having their own individual continuity. Which makes it easier to judge character dialogue and events that may seem contrary if stacked up against another show. That's just me though. That's how I watch DCAU. That's how I put up with Static Shock. Heh.

[Supremus]

I think that ultimately, trying to connect series together into one timeline is just going to lead yourself into a headache. I know with the DCAU it's intentionally supposed to be one timeline but I prefer just thinking of shows having their own individual continuity.I agree to the extent that it doesn't bother me the slightest that Teen Titans and the new Batman show will be out of continuety, and apparently in completely different universes, but at the same time I think it works well to have a character like Darkseid (and maybe one day R'as Al Ghul) take advantage of existing continuety from previous series when appearing on JL(U). It just adds a potential extra layer of depth. "Twilight" would have felt like a very different episode without the "Legacy" context.


... Which makes it easier to judge character dialogue and events that may seem contrary if stacked up against another show. That's just me though. That's how I watch DCAU. That's how I put up with Static Shock. Heh.You don't have to put up with Static Shock, you know. I don't.

[shoujoaifan]

Unfortunetly all things, good and bad, come to an end.

Has Timm made any annoucnements on various non-DC works he might do once JLU is over (be it JLU S2 or later)?

Or would Warner Bros still want him for other works, or they trying to bring in fresh talent and brushing away the experienced?





Huh, you know what this got me thinking? I'm too young to remember it until it was on CN and it was after seeing the Timm+Dini DCAU, but how did the older fans feel when B:TAS came on in a style different than the older Batman and Superfriends?

(REGARDLESS of which was done better professionaly, I sure some were ticked things had changed from lighter stuff to darker, more mature stuff, or had just changed in general)

[EJill34]

You know, we'll all be upset when these shows go, but there's no need to get so worked up over it. These guys have been working their asses off making quality cartoons for over 12 years and they deserve a break. If JLU really is the last DCAU show, and the team wants to move onto something else, so be it. We'll get a bunch of new shows by new talent, but I doubt any of them will be as good as the DCAU we've been watching since 1992.

[Squall]

So, what will be the official Timm/Dini DCAU when it's all said and done?

108 episodes, 3 movies -- Batman: The Animated Series (with TNBA absorbed as part of it for reruns)
55 episodes -- Superman: The Animated Series
104 episodes, 1 movie -- Justice League (with JLU absorbed as part of it for reruns)
52 episodes, 1 movie -- Batman Beyond

Like other posters said, nothing lasts forever, and everything must come to an end eventually. (Star Trek and Star Wars fans are going to have to learn that lesson in the next few years as well! :p ) I just want to see everything I mentioned above on DVD someday, as well as a nice, big coffee table hardback book that goes through all four TV shows in detail (kind of like a Star Trek technical manual) :D ...

[ArtificialIdiot]

[BEGIN RANT]You know.....i think the thing that makes the demise of these shows so tragic is the fact that they went out before, IMO, they lost steam.

Isn't that a GOOD thing though? I mean, they went out before the quality and ideas behind them completely diminished, and thus didn't produce a string of bad episodes that turned fans against them at the end, simply for continuing for the sake of it. I think it's good that these shows go out before they can deteriate.
To use an example from another post, look how the recent Star Wars movies have actually put many SW fans off the original series as well. Look at Star Trek, which, IMO at least, was way past it's sell by date years ago.
So I think it's good that they went out before they did lose steam. At least we remember them fondly, without the sour taste that comes with a series spun out way too far :)

[creeper]

Isn't that a GOOD thing though? I mean, they went out before the quality and ideas behind them completely diminished, and thus didn't produce a string of bad episodes that turned fans against them at the end, simply for continuing for the sake of it. I think it's good that these shows go out before they can deteriate.
To use an example from another post, look how the recent Star Wars movies have actually put many SW fans off the original series as well. Look at Star Trek, which, IMO at least, was way past it's sell by date years ago.
So I think it's good that they went out before they did lose steam. At least we remember them fondly, without the sour taste that comes with a series spun out way too far :)
It would be a good thing if they didn't try to cram cliche anime series down our throats. Sometimes i watch them because i have no other option. I like watching cartoons on saturday morning, i like to wake up and see something worth watching. But there is few to pick from now. i don't like dub anime, and steer away from it. That's why i miss BTAS so much. I'm glad i have the first volume of the dvds to keep me occupied. Like i said before. I feel they had more stories to tell in all of those series. Batman beyond was just getting good before the trashed that. Remember how they tried to kill that stating the writers and production crew would be working on zeta. Zeta was crap compared to BB, but they nixed it anyways because of the greedy corporate heads.

[Toddman]

So, what will be the official Timm/Dini DCAU when it's all said and done?

108 episodes, 3 movies -- Batman: The Animated Series (with TNBA absorbed as part of it for reruns)
55 episodes -- Superman: The Animated Series
104 episodes, 1 movie -- Justice League (with JLU absorbed as part of it for reruns)
52 episodes, 1 movie -- Batman Beyond

Just wondering, aren't there actually 54 episodes of Superman?

And are you just assuming there will be a Justice League movie (along with 26 more episodes?)

Toddman

[ArtificialIdiot]

Starcrossed was actually marketed as a movie if I remember correctly. So he could mean that.

[Squall]

Well, some websites list "Girls' Night Out" as a S:TAS episode, and some websites list it as a TNBA episode. I decided to count it as a S:TAS episode, because it would be the only Batman episode with flying aliens in it otherwise, and just seems really out of place there. :p

Well, there are plans for a Justice League DTV in the works right now; that's the movie I was referring to. If it happens, that is! :sweat: Otherwise, JL will just end up with 104 episodes, and no movie...

[king_k4life]

I love Teen Titans I was one of the first to make a valid point about them bieng in this same Universe & would still be valid if The creator didn't want to piss off the old fans.

I cam young I only saw a few repeats of the first series but I watched TNBA & anything after.

can't they create a spin-off with just a 1 person from this team creating it like they did with TT.

[Killtacular]

I don't know why everyone's doom and glooming. Cartoon Network has uses for Timm beyond what he's currently working on. That's why they got him in the first place.

Don't be surprised if Justice League Unlimited is the launching point for:

a) A spinoff series for one of the new superheroes introduced to TV.
b) A Bruce Timm Showcase show, which is basically JLU minus the core members and with even more superheroes.
c) Timm working on something (gasp) not DC-related for CN. I'm sure SOMEONE out there would like to see Bruce Timm do an episode of The Powerpuff Girls.

And Timm can also just work as a writer for any of WBA's other shows, like Xiaolin Showdown and Duck Dodgers. He could do some more writing for Teen Titans.

His options aren't limited at all.

And don't forget that there's not just Timm but all of the people under Timm. Even if Timm were to retire, you still have all of the "Timm crew" working in television, working at WBA. Alan Burnett could take the helm of a serious superhero project with that crew. Or when Teen Titans is finished, Glen could take them under his wing.

It'd be nice if Curt Geda came back too... sigh.

I know for a fact that CN wants more superhero ideas. That's why they greenlighted a Judd Winnick show. They will run superheroes into the ground until there's no ground left.

[chukkyster]

Bring Back anything.
Yup that is what i been saying for a long time about creating a Nightwing series but i guess i'm not being heard. i mean i love batman but he's everywhere, Btas, BB, JL, TB. i mean come on i want see other characters have their spot light. i want see Nightwing series , they didn't even show Nightwing in BB or what he was upto and there was a Robin in BB too but he was only in the comics . who was he? why wasm't he on the show?
i still think Nightwing should get his own series he deserves it for his awsome effort on TNBA. so they should start writing an animated series about Nightwing.
they should release -
An Animated Nightwing series, Movie
An Animated Nightwing in the future like BB series, Movie
An Animated Birds of Prey or Batgirl series, Movie
An Animated Static Shock Movie

[noahrave]

An Animated Nightwing series, Movie
An Animated Nightwing in the future like BB series, Movie
An Animated Birds of Prey or Batgirl series, Movie
An Animated Static Shock Movie
Heck, yeah I 'd second that!! Especially Nightwing and Static having their own seperate movies! Better animation and music budget at least put an end to the ridiculous Scooby DTV movies, WB!

[Happy]

i still think Nightwing should get his own series he deserves it for his awsome effort on TNBA. so they should start writing an animated series about Nightwing.
they should release -
An Animated Nightwing series, Movie
An Animated Nightwing in the future like BB series, Movie
An Animated Birds of Prey or Batgirl series, Movie
An Animated Static Shock Movie Why Nightwing (and batgirl)? I mean all he is is basically Batman with an attitude. I would much prefer someone like Flash or Green Lantern getting his own show than a second-string Batman clone.

[GL2k2]

Nightwing is just not a character a lot of people know to sell his own anything. Even based on prior appearances on DCAU can't help him. So, it's just not going to happen. As for Static Shock, I can care less. His show was terrible to me. I could be attracted to a DTV if Icon and Rocket appeared, but then I'd be mad because that detracts from them having their own series.

You should probably be hoping for something that will lead into having Nightwing in an appearance. At this point even Teen Titans could star Nightwing. If they do something like JLU where characters grow up, we could see him. But the DCAU Nightwing we're familiar with is O-V-E-R.

[king_k4life]

Why don't you like Static he is the most real of anyone in The DCAU & deals with issues the other men with tights don't.

Nightwing lives forever

They should be a birds of Prey DTV animated aswell INCLUDING ORACLE
@ they end they should show her getting surgery fixing it in Future BB.

[king_k4life]

I wasn't talking about powers


& that is also very realistic compared to Goddesess(SP?) & Aliens

[GL2k2]

I wasn't talking about powers


& that is also very realistic compared to Goddesess(SP?) & AliensAll I'll say is read the comic book from start to finish and you'll see the animated series as a pale dumb-downed copy of a good product. I haven't read the comics in years, but I just can't watch Static Shock cause it makes me angry. I'm only more P.O.ed about the animated series of my avatar.

[Cyber E.]

They should be a birds of Prey DTV animated aswell INCLUDING ORACLE
@ they end they should show her getting surgery fixing it in Future BB.Barbara hasn't even been crippled in the DCAU, and with the magnitude of the storyline that crippled her in the comics it's extremely unlikely we're going to see Timm's Oracle. It'd be pointless to create a DTV based off a team that most fans don't know or care about, cripple her in the story or already have her crippled just to fix her by the end of it. We'd be lucky enough to get another DTV set in Timm's DCAU, let alone one featuring some rather unpopular characters compared to Superman or Batman.

[chukkyster]

Why Nightwing ? I mean all he is is basically Batman with an attitude. I would much prefer someone like Flash or Green Lantern getting his own show than a second-string Batman clone.
i'm just suggesting what i like, if u don't like anything i don't care. only care about people who r rooting with me.nightwing might be a little similiar to bats but he has his own story in his world., u just don't now him well enough to be imaginative .or why not re -airing superman tas cuz after all he didn't have as much episode as batman.they should bring his show again better and totally new.

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Hey, don't go dissing Birds of Prey. Its one of the best comic books out there right now. Plus, in my opinion Barbara is much more interesting as Oracle. There she's a truly unique character who provides one of the most needed services to heroes across the world. As Batgirl, she was just another vigilante, and Cassandra Cain makes a more interesting Batgirl anyways.

[ArtificialIdiot]

A Green Lantern corps animated series would be interesting. I mean, the setting could be universal if need be. :)

[James]

I just can't see why people can't let go. I've said it 1000 times before, but we've had a decade of Timm's cartoon. You'd be pushed to find any other made for kids cartoon of such quality which has lasted so long.

As Squall said, we've had loads of episodes, most been pretty cool. It just feels like no matter how fortunate DCAU fans are, they still get so agitated. I mean, we still have JLU - I'm not sure how, I would have predicted all past Batman incarnations well and truely shut down for the film franchise revamp and we still have Timm and co's work going! Again, I don't think there EVER has been a superhero cartoon which has lasted so long. Why can't we just be happy rather than spitting fury at WB?

I have no love for WB, but I know in the kids entertainment industry cartoons pretty much disappear as soon as the toys dry up. Even Spider-Man has never had such a good run.

So again, I say think of all those Marvel fans, those He-Man fans, that Spawn fan (Bird Boy - hah, joking mate)... they all have never had such a long running franchise.

Does everyone want the franchise go on till it's eventually run into the ground? Do we want to have good memories soured by some poor season of Timm's universe? It just seems they can't win. They either finish it on a high note - as IMO they have done - or it carries on till it fades and crashes.

All good things come to an end. Let's indeed leave Timm's DCAU as a good thing and just be thankful we have more Batman to chat, debate, pull apart in the VERY near future... as well as JLU and Teen Titans!

Optimism people! We've been very lucky and we continue to be. In the cold world of kids TV, I think so many people forget just how fortunate we've been.

[GL2k2]

I hate to keep harping the issue, but I really think the best way/s to save the DCAU is to move away from the superhero fare a little. I suggested earlier in the thread that if Timm did a "Showcase" series or even the characters involved in that comic like Adam Strange, Metal Men, or Sea Devils, it could easily be linked to the DCAU we are familiar with.

We could have the GL guest star on Adam Strange. Aquaman and his villians on Sea Devils. Superman and Metropolis characters and villians on Metal Men. On Kamandi we could see Vandall Savage or eventually the Legion of Superheroes. The possibilities are endless. But if Timm completely leaves the idea of working on DCAU or a another WB series, I rather see him work on a Marvel series. Too bad he can't do the Avengers now. But the time is ripe for Marvel to rise as the new comodity on tv. DC and Marvel seem to play relay in the media, I have my suspicions about this too.

KAMANDI
http://www.toonopedia.com/kamandi.htm

Adam Strange
http://www.toonopedia.com/adamstr.htm

Sea Devils
http://donaghe.tripod.com/sea-devils/

Metal Men
http://www.toonopedia.com/metalmen.htm

[Knight]

I have to disagree I don't think the best way to save the DCU is transfer to a show full of low grade characters like Adam Strange and The Sea Devils. I know for one I wouldn't watch it and Im sure most of there target demographics wouldn't either. You don't go from shows like Superman and Batman to Kamandi. That's a downgrade. Id rather the show end before they stoop that low.

I want the current Timmverse to run until it cant run anymore. There are so many stories that are out there that can still be told that it doesn't really have to end for a very long time. Especially with the new more diversified JLU format. Who says its going to fade and crash? No one knows that until it happens which it hasn't yet. I believe there are only two things that should dictate when JLU ends. Low ratings and Timm and Co not wanting to do it anymore. That's it in my opinion.

[chukkyster]

Nightwing is just not a character a lot of people know to sell his own anything. Even based on prior appearances on DCAU can't help him. So, it's just not going to happen. As for Static Shock, I can care less. His show was terrible to me. I could be attracted to a DTV if Icon and Rocket appeared, but then I'd be mad because that detracts from them having their own series.You should probably be hoping for something that will lead into having Nightwing in an appearance. At this point even Teen Titans could star Nightwing. If they do something like JLU where characters grow up, we could see him. But the DCAU Nightwing we're familiar with is O-V-E-R.
if Nightwing can have his own comic then he can have an animated series or movie it's the same thing, anything is possible. And Static Shock was a cool show, how do u get it got the best second rated show? u don't like it u got a problem with taste or ur picky with superheroes either that or u sound like a racist to me.

[EJill34]

u don't like it u got a problem with taste or ur picky with superheroes either that or u sound like a racist to me.Look at his other posts about Static Shock like this one:


All I'll say is read the comic book from start to finish and you'll see the animated series as a pale dumb-downed copy of a good product. I haven't read the comics in years, but I just can't watch Static Shock cause it makes me angry. I'm only more P.O.ed about the animated series of my avatar.

That shows you that he doesn't like the show because he thinks it was a dumbed-down version of a great comic, not that he's a racist. Watch what you say, because you can't just throw terms like that around whenever you feel like it. There are people who take offense to being called racists when they're not. Just thought you might like to know. One thing I can say is that a comment like that proves you're ignorant.

[Toddman]

... either that or u sound like a racist to me.
I don't know what your personal ethnic background is, but I wouldn't throw around the term "racist" so flippantly if I were you.

That label is especially uncalled for in this case, since GL2k2 was making a specific point in praising Static's old comic book sereis. His strident dislike of the animated show stems from his passion for the comic which he regarded as quality work, and his view that the cartoon is a watered-down version of the same character.

One could hardly call that opinion "racist."

Toddman

[ZorBrak]

All I'd ask to see is one closing Batman Beyond movie...tis all...

[Squall]

If another DTV is made in the Dini/Timm DCAU, I want it to either be JL or the Batman Beyond JLU... no Batman or Superman by themselves. :D

[ArtificialIdiot]

I'd rather see a Batman Beyond DTV WITHOUT the JLU playing a big part. Personally, and I know this is unlikely to happen, but I'd like to see what happens after Bruce dies. And how Terry copes without him. We could also find out what's going on with Nightwing during the funeral, and maybe even what happened to Alfred (unless they mentioned that in an episode I have yet to see). I wouldn't mind the JLU making a cameo, but imo, it is terry's show. And the final time we see Terry, I'd prefer it to be a solo thing.

Besides, we'll be seeing the JLU unlimited again in the future, according to cartoon network at least :)

[Revelator]

That's like saying the pitch black Batman Beyond Catwoman DTV counts as a movie. It may have been scripted and storyboarded, but it wasn't finished.

This is going off-topic, but is there any more information regarding that aborted project? If it has no chance of completion I wish the script would be made public--I'd love to see what amde it "pitch black."

[GL2k2]

if Nightwing can have his own comic then he can have an animated series or movie it's the same thing, anything is possible. And Static Shock was a cool show, how do u get it got the best second rated show? u don't like it u got a problem with taste or ur picky with superheroes either that or u sound like a racist to me.Well, I hate Spongebob Squarepants and Fairly Odd Parents, and they're all over the place and huge hits for nickelodeon. I don't care who's watching it, what sucks, sucks. Also, mind you I come from a different school, and in my opinion Static could have been much much better. I mean, it didn't improve from becoming a Scooby-Doo clone "This week on Static Shock, Shaquille O'Neal, A Backstreet Boy, Little Romeo". I mean c'mon. I never saw Superman guest star with Pam Anderson or something. I implore you to read the comics, the are miles away better than the cartoon.

Also, I won't answer the "racist" remark, GMahler and Toddman (Thank you)came to my defense. Do a search of my screenname and find some heated discussions about me being Black.;) No apology needed, let's just move on.


I have to disagree I don't think the best way to save the DCU is transfer to a show full of low grade characters like Adam Strange and The Sea Devils. I know for one I wouldn't watch it and Im sure most of there target demographics wouldn't either. You don't go from shows like Superman and Batman to Kamandi. That's a downgrade. Id rather the show end before they stoop that low.
I'm not sure if you think I'm suggesting they be on JL or not, but I think these characters are rich enough to garner their own series. I want things to go on further too. But at this point it looks unlikely. But by discounting so-called low grade characters, you can't be taking in account the nature of Timm's brilliant ability to adapt things and make them entertaining. He could remake Thundarr the Barbarian and make you like it. Some of the lamest creations in the DCU have seen screentime thanks to Timm and they made appearances that even had an impact on the comic book counterparts (I'm thinking of Brainiac in particular). On an added note, Bruce Timm has thought about doing a Kamandi series or episode of one of the DCAU shows. It can't be that lame.

[All-Star 1.5]

Well, I hate Spongebob Squarepants and Fairly Odd Parents, and they're all over the place and huge hits for nickelodeon. I don't care who's watching it, what sucks, sucks. Also, mind you I come from a different school, and in my opinion Static could have been much much better. I mean, it didn't improve from becoming a Scooby-Doo clone "This week on Static Shock, Shaquille O'Neal, A Backstreet Boy, Little Romeo". I mean c'mon. I never saw Superman guest star with Pam Anderson or something. I implore you to read the comics, the are miles away better than the cartoon..

I would blame the real life guest stars on Kids WB it's not like the people behind the show felt like they needed to do them; it's just that that higher ups felt that they needed to them and overall I think that most of the episodes featuring them came off pretty well.



I'm not sure if you think I'm suggesting they be on JL or not, but I think these characters are rich enough to garner their own series. I want things to go on further too. But at this point it looks unlikely. But by discounting so-called low grade characters, you can't be taking in account the nature of Timm's brilliant ability to adapt things and make them entertaining. He could remake Thundarr the Barbarian and make you like it. Some of the lamest creations in the DCU have seen screentime thanks to Timm and they made appearances that even had an impact on the comic book counterparts (I'm thinking of Brainiac in particular). On an added note, Bruce Timm has thought about doing a Kamandi series or episode of one of the DCAU shows. It can't be that lame.
If I am not mistaken Kamandi was refrenced in "Hereafter".

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I would blame the real life guest stars on Kids WB it's not like the people behind the show felt like they needed to do them; it's just that that higher ups felt that they needed to them and overall I think that most of the episodes featuring them came off pretty well.



If I am not mistaken Kamandi was refrenced in "Hereafter".
I definitely think they were inspired by Kamandi in this episode. The red sun stuff I think was an idea that Timm wanted to do on STAS with Kamandi as a guest star. But other than that, I'm not aware of any other kind of reference.