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Dr. Daedalus
07-03-2004, 09:16 PM
Don't think this has been done yet, so I'll ask: What are your top ten favorite and least favorite King of the Hill episodes?
Here are my faves:
1) High Anxiety- Part 2 of the two-parter where Debbie Grund accidentally shoots herself while trying to kill Buck. Some classic moments where Hank accidentally smokes pot, the two sheriffs exchange insults with each other, and everyone jumps to huge conclusions. One of the best 2-parters.
2) A Fire Fighting We Will Go- The gang of four accidentally burn down the fire house. More comedy than usual, which works well with the goofy premise. Boomhauer's flashback with the other characters talking fast like him was classic.
3) Hank's Bad Hair Day- Hank must pay $900 for a haircut, and Bill gets fired as an Army barber. Highlights include the disgruntled old barber (played by Brian Doyle-Murray) and Bill's long rant to Hank.
4) Peggy's Fan Fair- One of the best Peggy-centered episodes, which has a lot of country guest stars used to their fullest, like the golden days of The Simpsons. Plus Hank's suspicion against Peggy is a great dramatic moment.
5) Nine Pretty Darn Angry Men- A parody of 12 Angry Men, except they're debating a new lawnmower. Great comedic writing, and it's sweet whenever Hank stands up to Cotton.
6) Junkie Business- Generates some genuine tension as to how Hank's going to get out of the situation of having to keep a drug addict at Strickland Propane. Some classic lines, too: "Sorry Hank, I suffer from obsessive compulsive disorder. If I get out of this chair, Garth Brooks is gonna die."
7) 'Twas the Nut Before Christmas- Probably the funniest Bill-centric episode, as he gets carried away in the Christmas spirit and foolishly makes friends with a two-bit thug. Best moment in the episode is when Hank yells to a drunk Bobby, Connie, and Joseph: "YOU, YOU, YOU! GO HOME NOW! I'VE HAD ENOUGH OF THIS CHRISTMAS CRAP! BILL!"
8) Chasing Bobby- I'm not usuallly one for drama-heavy KOTH episodes, but this one's special. Hank is fearful that his trusty truck will soon kick the bucket. It's the tense father-son relationships in this episode that make it a winner. Definitely deserved an Emmy.
9) Hillennium- One of the most positive Y2K episodes of any show ever. Instead of going the grim route like Family Guy and Simpsons (granted, "Da Bomb" was hilarious), it gave a story of hope and made some good points along the way. Not particularly hilarious, but it doesn't need to be- it stands well enough on its own.
10) Sleight of Hank- Hank annoyingly tries to figure out a magic trick that Peggy was involved in. Lots of humorous wordplay, and the fighting between Peggy and Hank towards the end is fairly realistic in that they no longer remember what started the fight. A fairly strange resolution (so they kick each other and suddenly it's all OK? "Loosen up, Bobby."), but a very watchable episode.

Honorable Mentions: -Happy Hank's Giving- The Hill family is stuck in the airport on Thanksgiving. A lot like a Seinfeld episode (especially something like "The Parking Garage" or "The Restaurant"), and very realistic in its depiction of Murphy's Law.
-Hank's Dirty Laundry- Classic situation of Hank being accused of something he never did, and having to go to unreasonable lengths to prove his innocence (in this case, renting a porno video). Has some hilarious lines.
-Ho Yeah!- Oblivious Hank takes a prostitute around town. The third act, with Hank and company trying to outrun an Oklahoma City pimp, is priceless. "Hey, he ran a red light- you can't do that!"
-Return to La Grunta- Hank being raped by a dolphin=comedy gold. You wouldn't think so, but trust me, it's hilarious.
-A Beer Can Named Desire- Hank goes to the Super Bowl to throw a football through a life-sized Alamo beer can. Meanwhile, Bill tries to find out which of three women is his cousin. Classic New Orleans jokes in this one, and Bobby in a Cajun suit is priceless.
-Joust Like a Woman- Alan Rickman did an excellent job as the snooty Renaissance actor, and lots of 17th century/21st century custom differences are explored here.

My 10 worst episodes:
1) Pigmalion: Basically, the plot consists of Luanne being wooed into being this pig plant processor's girlfriend. Peggy suspects something's amiss, but Hank is quieted by sports blooper videos and a hot air balloon ride (in an out-of-character moment). Anyway, Luanne has a fight with Peggy and goes to live with this pig guy- it turns out he's a nutbar who dyes Luanne's hair red and puts her in the same farm dress every day. His ultimate goal is to have Luanne marry another guy while he wears a pig costume so all three can live happily ever after in the same vein as a marketing campaign from years ago. So the climax is Luanne and the pig guy in a processing factory on a conveyor belt- the pig guy ends up getting stabbed in the head with an item on the conveyor belt and dies. Now that synopsis alone is crazy enough, but the episode could've been a winner if it had taken it in humorous directions. But it doesn't. Instead, it opts to just be weird and strange, with only ONE laugh in the entire thing: A line from the pig guy, yelling a sentence in German like Hitler. And it takes Luanne forever to come to her senses and ditch the nutjob, but by then it ends in a surprisingly dark fashion (the only death I can think of in KOTH's history was Debbie Grund) that feels out of place and awkward. When I got done with the episode, I actually said "What the (insert F word here)?!" It didn't feel like a KOTH episode- it had no charm, little wit, and the "perfectly innocent stranger is not who they seem" has been done before, and more successfully.
2) Transnational Amusement Presents: Peggy's Magic Sex Feet- Lots of jokes bomb in this one, and the plot runs out of steam after only half of it.
3) Hank and the Great Glass Elevator- After the initial hilarity of the first act (especially Hank succumbing to mooning in the elevator), the plot drags when Bill hooks up with the governor.
4) Bill of Sales- Peggy and Bill go into the salesman business together. Not a very strong outing, with little pacing. The concept of Peggy motivating Bill by insulting him is unique, but it's too little, too late.
5) The Son Also Roses- This episode alone shows how soft Hank has gotten in some of the later episodes. Hank would NEVER want Bobby to be a gardener in earlier seasons; he'd be against it for most of the episode and save Bobby from embarrasment at the end (much like "Husky Bobby").
6) Peggy Hill: The Decline and Fall (2)- Just a very unpleasant episode overall- Peggy spends all of it laying down or in agony, and the new baby cries for lots of it. And the ending feels too easy.
7) Arrow Head- A decent concept, and the professor is voiced with delightful snotiness, but the episode drags on and on. Really needed a decent subplot for this to work.
8) Pretty, Pretty Dresses- If you watch it strictly for the psychology of Bill's problems, it's fine, but as a comedy, it utterly bombs. The first time I watched it, I hated the episode. It has since gotten better on subsequent viewings, but it's a pretty depressing Christmas episode.
9) The Exterminator- Not a bad episode per se, but a lot slower moving than usual. For act 2, think the movie "Office Space" (which is appropriate because Mike Judge wrote/directed that). Rarely makes me laugh, though the episode has a hilarious Dale line: "Have sex on the desk? Sure!"
10) Of Mice and Little Green Men- The characters in this episode walk the fine line of being just plain stupid. Come on, Joseph and Dale would HAVE to figure out what's been going on all this time. Joseph looks NOTHING like Dale, and with John Redcorn over ALL the time, I mean jeez. This episode came close to insulting my intelligence, though a few smatterings of comedy bits somewhat saves it. Somewhat.

Whew, that was a load of work! So what are YOUR 10 favorite and least favorite KOTH episodes?

Spongebrain2.0
07-03-2004, 10:15 PM
I haven't really seen that much KOTH, so I can't judge. I've seen like 8 to 10 episodes, but from what I've seen. It seems like an aquired taste, it isn't wacky and out of control satirical humor like that seen on Family Guy, It seems like it is slwo moving and more of a dramaedy.

EddieTheEditor
07-03-2004, 10:16 PM
I'm not that fond of KOTH, but the Y2K episode will always have a place in my heart.

"THIS is your GO-TO GUY?!?"

Dr. Daedalus
07-03-2004, 10:36 PM
I haven't really seen that much KOTH, so I can't judge. I've seen like 8 to 10 episodes, but from what I've seen. It seems like an aquired taste, it isn't wacky and out of control satirical humor like that seen on Family Guy, It seems like it is slwo moving and more of a dramaedy. A lot of KOTH's humor comes from the subtle facial expressions/reactions and dry humor, as well as poking fun at the nuances of small town folks. Coming from a small town myself, I find the show hilarious, and I can see various people from real life in the show's characters. It's not everybody's thing- my roommate this year didn't "get" the show at all, for example. Of course, he didn't get a LOT of humor, but that's another story...

Spongebrain2.0
07-03-2004, 11:30 PM
A lot of KOTH's humor comes from the subtle facial expressions/reactions and dry humor, as well as poking fun at the nuances of small town folks. Coming from a small town myself, I find the show hilarious, and I can see various people from real life in the show's characters. It's not everybody's thing- my roommate this year didn't "get" the show at all, for example. Of course, he didn't get a LOT of humor, but that's another story...
Yeah, it is much different from Beavis & Butt-head, and it kinda makes you go, "The Guy who MADE Beavis & Butt-head made THIS", but there are some things that are funny, I actually liked the 2000 election episode.;)

Peter Paltridge
07-04-2004, 03:22 AM
Best:
The episode where Hank has to drive around the old ladies. In the middle, he runs into MTV Spring Break, and must battle both old ladies and young delinquents. It was great, and one of my favorite TV episodes of anything ever.

The anger management episode where Hank accidentally cuts off Dale's finger and must go through humiliating therapy. Great stuff--IMO, the show is best when Hank is totally surrounded by idiots.

Peggy accidentally brings over a child from Mexico after a field trip--great idea, great story progression, and Peggy's Spanish testification in the court is some of the best icing on the cake ever.

The Thanksgiving episode where everyone is stuck in the airport. They made a show out of it, and a darn good show. There's no one that can't identify with inconveniences this severe and let-downs of this caliber, and few shows will show it directly. KOTH did a great job of it.

The first half of the Japan episode. Great stuff all-around.

The Bill and the Southern belles episode. Probably the only time Bill ever found himself in a situation from his impossible fantasies. But it was terrific.

WORST
The "trying to get Ladybird pregnant" episode. A snooze.

Peggy's garden at the school episode. Even more boring than trying to get Ladybird pregnant.

Bobby making out with a doll head. The point is?

Bobby and the ventriloquist dummy....there wasn't a single funny thing in it.

Fone Bone
07-04-2004, 07:57 AM
Best:

The one where everyone tries to quit smoking.

The Pilot

The one where Cotton sends Bobby to the hole and he survives three days when Cotton only survived two.

The Japan two pater: "I kicka your ass!"

Hank is constipated.

Hank practices to throw a ball in the Superbowl while Bobby becomes a Southern Dandie.

Nancy FINALLY leaves John Redcorn. (Or vice-versa.)

The NewsRadio reunion with Luanne's obnoxious roommates.

Hank becomes a pimp. Guest starring Snoop Dog as a white mack daddy.

And my absolute fave: Bobby might be the reincarnation of the Dali Lama. Him using the mirror to choose Connie rather than a life of spirituality gets me every time. The revelation that the mirror is ACTUALLY the item he should have picked makes this episode twice as worthy.

Worst?

Any Peggy episode really.

Jave
07-04-2004, 01:23 PM
Worst episode ever: "Yankee Hankee"

Jaime_Weinman
07-04-2004, 01:32 PM
KotH really isn't that "subtle." There have been slapstick episodes, like "A Firefighting We Will Go" (Hank and the guys become firefighters). It's just that it eschews pop-culture references and cutaways and all the other stuff Family Guy did as a substitute for good comedy writing. KotH is mostly character comedy, e.g. it's funny because of what a line reveals about a particular character (Hank's squareness, Peggy's egomania).

Best episode ever: "Pretty, Pretty Dresses." It's a brilliant job of getting comedy out of a sad subject and simultaneously using the dramatic potential of that subject. Has some of the most memorable funny/sad scenes like Bill and the Iguana, and the scene with both Hank and Bill (and eventually Dale) in dresses.

Other candidates for best ever:
"Square Peg" (Peggy teaches sex ed; Dale's "you don't know who I am..." routine)
"Hank's Dirty Laundry" (Hank fights to clear his name when the video store's computer mistakenly says he rented a porn tape)
"Wings of the Dope" (Luanne is visited by Buckley's Angel)
"A Beer Can Named Desire" (the Hills go to New Orleans for a contest, while Bill winds up in an elaborate Tennessee Williams parody)
"Luanne Virgin 2.0" (Luanne becomes a born-again virgin and Peggy confesses that she slept with another man before she met Hank)

Bill, Luanne and Cotton are characters you can usually (not always, but usually) count on for a really good episode.

Worst episode ever: "Hank's Choice," where Bobby becomes allergic to Ladybird and Hank has Bobby sleep in the doghouse. Makes Hank and Bobby seem very unpleasant (you know you're in trouble when Peggy is the most likable character in the episode), and with an abrupt, tacked-on ending.

Dr. Daedalus
07-04-2004, 01:47 PM
The "trying to get Ladybird pregnant" episode. A snooze. The subplot, with Dale as the bounty hunter, was pretty funny. That episode's really more of an exposition/flashback about Hank's & Peggy's problems with getting pregnant more than anything, which can get sorta slow. The third act is probably the best part of it.
Bobby and the ventriloquist dummy....there wasn't a single funny thing in it. I dunno... even though Hank was out-of-character in liking the dummy, I found it funny that he likes the dummy more than Bobby. That was worth a few chuckles.

Best:

The one where everyone tries to quit smoking. One of the best season 1 episodes, and one of the first episodes I saw. Hank making Bobby smoke an entire carton of cigarettes was gold, especially when he accuses Bobby of smoking un-American.

"Luanne Virgin 2.0" (Luanne becomes a born-again virgin and Peggy confesses that she slept with another man before she met Hank) Another good one. Great moment where Luanne giddily hops out of the water in a now see-through dress, and the guys oogle her.

Worst episode ever: "Hank's Choice," where Bobby becomes allergic to Ladybird and Hank has Bobby sleep in the doghouse. Makes Hank and Bobby seem very unpleasant (you know you're in trouble when Peggy is the most likable character in the episode), and with an abrupt, tacked-on ending. That one was on syndication recently. It DID have an abrupt, too-easy ending, I'll give you that. I'd say the CONCEPT of Bobby living in a doghouse was funnier than the execution for this one. Still, some good Hank/Bobby moments, like Bobby's line, "You get a new house and suddenly EVERYONE wants to sell you a home security system!" P.S.: That was the 100th episode. Not very "spectacular", compared to the 100th episodes of some other shows...

Jaime_Weinman
07-04-2004, 01:59 PM
P.S.: That was the 100th episode. Not very "spectacular", compared to the 100th episodes of some other shows...
That was the 100th episode that aired, but the episode that Fox promoted as the 100th episode was "Ho Yeah," where Hank unwittingly becomes a pimp. That was pretty spectacular (and a really funny episode too).

Alex Toon
07-04-2004, 05:45 PM
The funniest KOTH episode will be when Beavis and Butthead or Mr. Tom Anderson of B&BH make a cameo.
Hank/Anderson:Hey,this guy looks like a fat ugly me.
Butthead:You're both fat and ugly,buttmunches.Heh heh.
Beavis(as Cornholio):Bobby, is it? Well, Bobby, do you have any TP for my bunghole?
Bobby: Dad,the Spanish kid is creeping me out.

It would be a great series finale.

Peter Paltridge
07-04-2004, 08:54 PM
And my absolute fave: Bobby might be the reincarnation of the Dali Lama. Him using the mirror to choose Connie rather than a life of spirituality gets me every time. The revelation that the mirror is ACTUALLY the item he should have picked makes this episode twice as worthy.

Oh yeah, how could I forget that? That was one of the most romantic things I'd seen in a cartoon. I have a theory though that it led to the producers breaking Bobby and Connie up--at this point they were getting too serious for their age to be realistic.

Frank
07-04-2004, 09:08 PM
The funniest KOTH episode will be when Beavis and Butthead or Mr. Tom Anderson of B&BH make a cameo.
Hank/Anderson:Hey,this guy looks like a fat ugly me.
Butthead:You're both fat and ugly,buttmunches.Heh heh.
Beavis(as Cornholio):Bobby, is it? Well, Bobby, do you have any TP for my bunghole?
Bobby: Dad,the Spanish kid is creeping me out.

It would be a great series finale.Speaking of Beavis and Butthead... does anyone think Beavis and Butthead was cancelled too soon?

Jaime_Weinman
07-15-2004, 01:02 PM
"Pigmalion" was a Halloween episode that was not shown at Halloween for some reason. As a scary Treehouse-of-Horror change of pace, I think it's pretty entertaining.

Hank: Do you have a tape of that snowman catching fire?
Trip: Do I --? I have three different snowmen!

J. B. Warner
07-15-2004, 02:00 PM
"Pigmalion" was a Halloween episode that was not shown at Halloween for some reason.
From what I gathered, it was supposed to be Season 5's Halloween episode (production number 5ABE23) but was held over until Season 7 - in the middle of January, no less.

Dr. Daedalus
07-15-2004, 09:47 PM
"Pigmalion" was probably like what happened with "A Very Special Family Guy Freakin' Christmas" and Futurama's "A Tale of Two Santas"- delayed because it was too gruesome (don't know why Family Guy's was delayed, though). It was supposed to air as the season premiere of Season 6, it seems, because "Bobby Goes Nuts" didn't premiere until November 11th, a very late season start (granted, some of that was due to 9/11). As a Halloween episode, I found "Hilloween" to be far stronger.

Hurricane V1
07-15-2004, 11:13 PM
I don't have any favorite episodes to make a best list. Being a former soccer player though, the one where Bobby quits the football team to play soccer had me a little ticked off. Quite frankly the whole episode disgusted me.

Peter Paltridge
07-16-2004, 03:47 AM
OK, after watching a KOTH rerun today, I have a NEW worst episode of all time: "Pigmalion".
Hah, I thought Pigmalion was great. Luanne gets some really, really weird episodes, and this one was without a doubt THE weirdest. Maybe it would have made more sense as a Halloween episode, but Fox won't play anything new in October anymore that isn't sports-related. As Kang said, what is the point of having a Halloween episode in November? The Simpsons needs its Halloween tradition back ON THE RIGHT DAY.