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Wascally Wabbit
06-28-2004, 07:41 PM
Well, here in the UK we just got the final Frasier...(no, wait, don't move this thread to the Entertainment Board just yet!!)...which, of course, was a spin off from Cheers. And plans are in the pipeline for Joey's own spin off show from Friends. So, can anyone think of any toons that have had similar spin off style shows? Or, what spin offs would ya like to see?
I'll get the ball rolling...
The Looney Tunes are the first obvious spin-off culprits, giving Sylvester his own series of toons after he popped up in earlier shorts as a supporting character, as they did often.
Disney, gawd bless 'em, spun many of their film characters off into their own crazy shows...like Tailspin. (Baloo the Bear runs an air freight company? What the Dickens?)
Then, of course, Brak got his own series after his Space Ghost stints, with the cunningly titled The Brak Show.
And, keeping the British end up, Danger Mouse spawned Count Duckula after the Count proved popular in a few appearences as a villain on that show.
But those are the only ones I can think of off the top of my head.
I'd pay good money to see a Crimson Chin show, his appearences in the Fairly OddParents always crack me up. Go, Leno, go go go!
I'm spent. Over to you lot! :sweat:
Tobias
06-28-2004, 07:59 PM
He-Man = She-Ra
Superman = Justice League = Justice League Unlimited
Rugrats = All Grown Up
Ducktales = Darkwing Duck
Outlaw Star = Angel Links
Farily Oddparents = Crash Nebula
Aqua Teen Hunger Force = Spacecataz (never really happened, but it was supposed to)
Mad Monkey 7
06-28-2004, 08:07 PM
Toy Story 1&2: Buzz Lightyear of Star Command.
DSRGirl
06-28-2004, 08:09 PM
Aqua Teen Hunger Force = Spacecataz (never really happened, but it was supposed to)
The history of Spacecattaz (note Spacecataz) was that Matt Maileraro and Dave Willis (creator of ATHF and Spacecattaz) had created the pilot for the show, but couldn't come up with enough ideas for the show, and decided just to concentrate more effort into ATHF and Squidbillies (another upcoming Adult Swim show). So the Spacecattaz pilot was then spliced into 13 segments, to run for about a minute each before each episode of ATHF's Season Four.
As For Spinoffs, Rugrats has a spinoffs coming out (supposdely) called Angelica and Susie's Preschool Daze, And Grim and Evil was spunoff into The Grim Adventures Of Billy And Mandy and Evil Con Carne.
Don_East
06-29-2004, 12:49 AM
Batman TAS -> Batman Beyond
Transformers G1 -> Beast Wars -> Beast Machines
The Real Ghostbusters -> Extreme Ghostbusters
[Don_East]
Nick K.
06-29-2004, 12:51 AM
I don't know if we hould consider JLU a spinoff of JL. Maybe a continuation.
Rover_Wow
06-29-2004, 02:06 AM
As For Spinoffs, Rugrats has a spinoffs coming out (supposdely) called Angelica and Susie's Preschool Daze
Rugrats also has All Grown Up!... meanwhile, I hear that the Angelica and Susie spinoff is no longer being considered (the Rugrats ep "Preschool Daze" was its pilot). And that's not all: KC were planning to spinoff Susie into her own series by having her move away (its pilot was the "Kwanzaa" ep), but realizing it would clash with the other spinoffs, it was the first one scrapped.
If Nick was perfect, Hey Arnold! would have been first out of the gate with an All Grown Up!-ish spinoff. Instead, the Viacom networks were not interested in The Patakis (as in Helga Pataki, now 15 years old in this show), as it was too dark for Nick, and not dark enough for MTV. Of course, this was long before they picked up Teenage Robot and Danny Phantom...
Happy
06-29-2004, 12:33 PM
Animaniacs-Pinky and the Brain
(can't believe I was the first one to mention it)
Spongebrain2.0
06-29-2004, 01:06 PM
If Nick was perfect, Hey Arnold! would have been first out of the gate with an All Grown Up!-ish spinoff. Instead, the Viacom networks were not interested in The Patakis (as in Helga Pataki, now 15 years old in this show), as it was too dark for Nick, and not dark enough for MTV. Of course, this was long before they picked up Teenage Robot and Danny Phantom...
What's all this about 'The Patakis'?
Duke Psychology
06-29-2004, 01:25 PM
he will be so glad to tell you.
Fone Bone
06-29-2004, 01:31 PM
Gargoyles was supposed to have a ton of spin-offs including:
Dark Ages
Bad Guys
Gargoyles 2131 (?right year?)
Timedancer
The New Olympians
Pendragon
Shaggy&Daphne
06-29-2004, 01:36 PM
The "Pebbles and Bam-bam" show was a spinoff of the "Flintstones", that featured their kids as teenagers.
tucsoncoyote
06-29-2004, 01:42 PM
Here's one from 1969 for the toonsters too young to remember..
Wacky Races - > Dastardly and Mutley in their Flying machines and The Perils of Penelope Pitstop.
so there's a double!
(As Dick Dastardly would say, Drat, Drat and Double Drat!)
(As the Hooded Claw would say... BLAAAAAAAST!)
:coyote:
Shaggy&Daphne
06-29-2004, 04:16 PM
I also recall there being a spinoff from "Scooby-Doo" in the early eighties. I believe it was called "Yabba-Doo" or something like that. It was pretty childish and stupid, but Scooby-Doo itself had already become a pretty dismal show during the early eighties, much like what is happening to "The Simpson's" right now, only worse. Much worse! After the introduction of Scrappy-Doo and a handful of horrible episodes, Velma and Fred were gone. The mysteries were gone. The show had become a campy romp through cartoon-ville, where Shaggy and Scooby were chased for ten minutes by real monsters. Daphnes return brought some improvement to the show, but not much. Together her and Shaggy found humorous ghosts, turn into donkeys a la Pinnochio, found Medusa masks that worked by shining flashlights through the eyes, etc. No longer were the villians memorable, or even slightly believable. The shows were cut in half so that instead of having a full 25 minute episode we had ten minute story segments. So there we were, left with no Fred, no Velma, no mysteries, and no point.
Conan-san
06-29-2004, 04:53 PM
I'd pay good money to see a Crimson Chin show, his appearences in the Fairly OddParents always crack me up. Go, Leno, go go go!
I'm spent. Over to you lot! :sweat:
I'd pay even better Money if Adem west does the VA.
Right, some anime ones then
Full metal Panic -> Full Metal Panic Fofumusu?
Digimon (Adventure) -> Digimon (Tamers) -> Digimon (Frountear)
Pritty Soldier Sailor Moon -> Pritty Guardian Sailor Moon :D
Rover_Wow
06-29-2004, 08:38 PM
What's all this about 'The Patakis'?
Don Del Grande says:
There was a plan to make a "sequel" to Hey Arnold! that took place five years later, with the fourth graders in high school, and concentrating on Helga and her family (including her sister Olga, who had graduated from college and moved back in). It was a little more "adult" than Hey Arnold!; for example, Miriam, whose alcoholism is "hinted at" but never mentioned on Hey Arnold! (mainly because they never mention alcohol on any Nicktoon - seriously, at a Big Help-A-Thon once, they deleted the words "bottle of beer" from a song), would be attending Alcoholics Anonymous meetings. The big change: in order to make sure Helga and her family remain the focus of the show, Arnold would never appear (the story would be that he found his parents and they moved away), except that each episode would be written as Helga writing a letter to Arnold describing what had happened (sort of like how every episode of Doug is something written in his journal).
However, Nickelodeon realized that it was not a show meant for its "target audience". There was talk of moving the show to MTV (one MTV executive asked why it wasn't "darker"), but that was rejected as well (it's possible that somebody noticed a similarity to Daria, which didn't do particularly well on MTV either). As far as I know, there are no plans to make even a pilot episode of the show.
Meanwhile, I've heard about how Gargoyles was supposed to have a ton of spinoffs...so why (bar Chronicles) didn't any of them get made?
Spongebrain2.0
06-29-2004, 09:15 PM
Wow, The Patakis sounds great. I wish some network picked it up. If it was on MTV it wouldn't have made it past its third episode, I really don't know what network it should've been on. It doesn't really fit any Viacom network:sad:
Tobias
06-29-2004, 09:31 PM
Wow, The Patakis sounds great. I wish some network picked it up. If it was on MTV it wouldn't have made it past its third episode, I really don't know what network it should've been on. It doesn't really fit any Viacom network:sad:
The horrible edits to Daria notwithstanding, What about the N? Look at what Degrassi gets away with.
John Pannozzi
06-29-2004, 09:46 PM
I'd love a Amy Wong spin-off from Futurama. Prof. Hubert J. Farnsworth also could have a good spin-off series.
Cartman
06-29-2004, 09:50 PM
"Chip 'n' Dale Rescue Rangers" was a spinoff of the original Chip 'n' Dale cartoons. Then again, the personalities of the characters in the spinoff are different from those of the original series. Two obnoxious little rodents turn into crime fighters?:confused:
Spongebrain2.0
06-29-2004, 10:32 PM
The horrible edits to Daria notwithstanding, What about the N? Look at what Degrassi gets away with.
Yeah, the N could work, Bartlett is not interested in returning to do anything with HA! anymore, from what I heard he's developing Party Wagon into a series for CN.
DSRGirl
06-29-2004, 10:40 PM
Also thinking about it, there were a lot of Cartoon Movies that were spun off into series. And not just Disney either. Both The Mummy and Osmosis Jones had Animated series spun off from they're respective movie.
Animelee
06-30-2004, 05:28 AM
I'm not sure if this one is true, or not, but:
Beavis and Butthead -> Daria.
I'm not sure, but I remember seeing Daria, or someone who looked like Daria, in Beavis and Butthead. I was a little kid, so I can't really remember.
Tobias
06-30-2004, 06:24 AM
I'm not sure if this one is true, or not, but:
Beavis and Butthead -> Daria.
I'm not sure, but I remember seeing Daria, or someone who looked like Daria, in Beavis and Butthead. I was a little kid, so I can't really remember.
Yes, Daria was indeed spun off from B&B, but Mike Judge never had anything to do with Daria, and the two shows never 'officially' crossed over. But oddly enough, Daria had a cameo in the B&B movie and the final episode.
Michael24
06-30-2004, 02:13 PM
G.I. JOE also had the craptastic spin-off G.I. JOE EXTREME.
Alex Toon
07-15-2004, 08:33 PM
Yes, Daria was indeed spun off from B&B, but Mike Judge never had anything to do with Daria, and the two shows never 'officially' crossed over. But oddly enough, Daria had a cameo in the B&B movie and the final episode.
It's common for spin-offs to rarely feature characters from the original show. Look at Family Matters!
Pic1360
07-15-2004, 08:52 PM
Here's one from 1969 for the toonsters too young to remember..
Wacky Races - > Dastardly and Mutley in their Flying machines and The Perils of Penelope Pitstop.
so there's a double!
(As Dick Dastardly would say, Drat, Drat and Double Drat!)
(As the Hooded Claw would say... BLAAAAAAAST!)
:coyote: Are you kidding?! I remember those spin-offs as if they'd happen a year ago!
Skeeter
07-16-2004, 04:40 PM
Meanwhile, I've heard about how Gargoyles was supposed to have a ton of spinoffs...so why (bar Chronicles) didn't any of them get made?Because Greg Weissman, the man who came up with the ideas for those spinoffs (or had a large hand in them, at least), was pulled from TGC at the beginning of the season and replaced with a different team of writers. That's when Gargoyles started going downhill (or just picked up speed going downhill, whatever your opinion).
"Chip 'n' Dale Rescue Rangers" was a spinoff of the original Chip 'n' Dale cartoons. Then again, the personalities of the characters in the spinoff are different from those of the original series. Two obnoxious little rodents turn into crime fighters?:confused:I wouldn't call Chip n' Dale's Rescue Rangers a spin-off of the old Chip n' Dale cartoons, per se. But originally Rescue Rangers had been intended to be a spin-off of the 1970s Disney film The Rescuers, and Chip and Dale's roles were originally to be filled by Bernard and Bianca. The idea was changed once Rescuers Down Under went into production.
From Chip and Dale's HooZoo profile:
The idea for the "Rescue Rangers" was inspired by the film "The Rescuers" where Chip 'n' Dale were supposed to be a local branch of the "International Rescue Aid Society" (IRAS) of which Bernard & Miss Bianca are it's most famous agents. The final draft dropped all references to the IRAS and focused on tackling unsolved mysteries and mysterious oddball crimes. There's a fanart floating around the Internet somewhere of what the original spinoff could have been like. It showed Monterey Jack in Australia with Gadget, Jake (the kangaroo mouse from RDU), a prototype of Zipper, Cody (the boy from RDU) in the background and an older chipmunk (an older version of Chip, perhaps?) in a circle in one of the corners. Quite interesting.
brak attack
07-18-2004, 12:16 AM
cartoon planet-space ghost
athf-space ghost
Zach Williams
07-18-2004, 09:51 AM
That Patakis thing does sound cool. But now for the spin-offs:
Oh Yeah! Cartoons -
*ChalkZone
*The Fairly OddParents
*My Life as a Teenage Robot
Kablam! -
*Action League Now!
*Angela Anaconda
*Teacher's Pet
Nftnat
07-20-2004, 01:53 PM
Spinning off one cartoon from another is more common than it might seem, and it's been going on for almost as long as there have been cartoons. One of the first cartoon series was Fleischer's Koko the Clown series. from that spun off of canine-like character named Bimbo, which spun off his girlfriend Betty Boop, which in turn spun off the Popeye cartoons.
Warner spinoffs were not limited to my main feline Sylvester. Back in 1935 there was a cartoon which introduced a whole raft of new characters. The cartoon was I Haven't Got a Hat. The characters were a bunch of kids: Porky Pig, Beans the Cat, Little Kitty, twin dogs named Ham & Ex, Oliver Owl, and their teacher, Miss Cud. Of course Porky became the breakout character from that, but most oftheother characters were in at least a couple of toons afterward. Daffy Duck was originally a supporting character in an Egghead cartoon. The first toon teaming Porky with Daffy was remade a year afterward substituting the prototype of Bugs Bunny for Daffy. And Egghead evolved into Elmer Fudd, although in my opinion and the opinions of others they were two completely different and separate characters. Arguments could be made about characters resembling Sylvester, Tweety, Pepe Le Pew, Elmer Fudd, etc. showing up in toons a year or two before their official debut.
This happened in other studios, too. When Tex Avery went there from Warners, he took the Little Red Riding Hood concept with him; this soon became the Slick Wolf and Red Hot Riding Hood. From this spun off Droopy. From the Three Bears cartoons came Barney Bear. The Slick Wolf led to the Hick Wolf, who sounded a bit like Huckleberry Hound. And Spike & Tyke had their own series in addition to frequent appearances in Tom & Jerry.
Woody Woodpecker spun off from Andy Panda. I could go on & on, but not as much as the experts from Termite Terrace could.
Now to tv cartoons, which started with Hanna-Barbera. I'm not even going to touch the many incarnations of the Flintstones or Scooby Doo. It would happen a number of times that a character would be one of the parts of someone else's show one year, and then have its own show the next year. Wasn't Snaggle Puss originally a character in Huckleberry Hound? Or was it Yogi Bear? Anyway, Quick Draw McGraw, Hokey Wolf, Touche Turtle, Wally Gator, all were in each other's shows at one time or another, although in separate cartoons. H-B / Cartoon Network would continue this practice through the '90's - I.M. Weasel spinning off from Cow & Chicken comes readily to mind.
Jeannie from I Dream of Jeannie had her own cartoon with Babu. Captain Caveman had his own cartoon with the Teen Angels before being in the Flintstones Supershow. All of these - except for Jeannie - were in the Laff-a-Lympics. It also had Dick Dastardly & Muttley knockoffs Dred Baron & Mumbley. Mumbley later had his own series. And I wonder if any connection could be made between the Daltons from LaL and the Daltons from the Lucky Luke cartoon movie. I know that both groups were based on the real Daltons - Bill, Grattan, Emmett, and that other guy - who terrorized Oklahoma in the late 1880's and early 1890's.
In the '80's we had my all-time favorite: Transformers. It's become a franchise; it's led to Beast Wars, Beast Machines, Robots In Disguise, Armada, Energon, and whatever they're coming up with next year and beyond. There was a crossover with G.I. Joe, kind of. You know the episode I mean.
Then there was the advent of the D*sn*y toons. I'll skip that because they've already been mentioned on this thread. On to the next chapter.
That would be the Warner cartoons in the '90's. It started with Tiny Toons. An argument could be as to whether Taz had his own series as a result of this; he was in a few episodes of TTA. And while A! wasn't a spinoff or a sequel, there were many appearances by the Toonsters. Of course Pinky & the Brain spun off of that, there was a goodly amount of crossing over with Freakazoid (my favorite was Brain & Wakko's appearances on that one episode), and there was even a Brain ref in Road Rovers. And then there was Pinky Elmyra & the Brain. I say no more.
In anime I don't even know the ones that have already been mentioned, although I do know about Pretty Sammy spinning off of Tenchi, kind of.
The current king of cartoons, and of cartoon spinoffs, is Cartoon Network. In 1994 there was the World Premiere Toons concept. The premiere was part of Cartoon Planet, which kind of spun off of Space Ghost Coast to Coast. From this came Dexter's Laboratory, Johnny Bravo, Cow & Chicken, and Power Puff Girls. One of the later toons - later retitled What a Cartoon! or the Cartoon Cartoon Show - was Larry & Steve, created by Seth MacFarlane, who then worked for Van Partible on Johnny Bravo before getting a better offer from Fox where he expanded on the L&S concept, turning it into Family Guy. More WAC cartoons - and the series they turned into - include Chicken From Outer Space (Courage the Cowardly Dog), and Crash Lancelot (Mike, Lu & Og). Later shows resulting from Big Picks included Sheep In the Big City, Billy & Mandy, Longhair & Doubledome, Megas (originally Lowbrow), Kids Next Door, Whatever Happened to Robot Jones?, and on and on.
Then there's the Nicktoons, but why rehash all that yet again.
John Pannozzi
07-20-2004, 02:03 PM
The ***da*n George Liquor show (a webtoon) is a spin-off of Ren and Stimpy
The Ripping Friends and Weekend Pussy Hunt (also a webtoon) are spin-offs of the ***da*n George Liquor show.
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