The World Series

[Brian Cruz]

Has anyone been watching this year's World Series? I'm really a Mets fan, but I have nothing against the Yankees, and I'm rooting for them to win it all again. Tonight's game was incredible. Curt Shilling pitched masterfully on only three day's rest, giving the Arizona Diamondbacks a 3-to-1 lead going into the bottom of the 9th. The game seemed to be over, but with two out and one man on base, Tino Martinez hit a two-run homer and tied the game for the Yanks! That home run will go down as one of the most memorable in World Series history! Then Derek Jeter hit a home run in the bottom of the 10th to win the game for New York. Defintely one of the most exciting games I've ever watched.

[Failure]

I hate the Yankees. Always have always will. (I'm a Phillies fan, not directly connected to the Yanks, but us folk hate all NY teams). What a wasted effort by Schill. Looks like this might go 7. If it goes to a 7th, I'll bet on the D-Backs, there's no way Schill would leave a game 7.

[Leaping Larry Jojo]

I'm not a fan of sports dynasties in general. I'm the type of person who enjoys seeing competition, and not the same kind of teams winning championships every year. I'm not a Lakers fan, not a Yankees fan, wasn't a Chicago Bulls fan in the 90s...

[Vin]

Yankees all the way baby!

How can anyone hate the Yankees? For once, cheer for these guys. They're respresenting New York and to a bigger extent the United States of America. Not to take anything away from what the Diamondbacks have accomplished, but New York needs this championship. It will be much more significant than the past ones because of what happened on Sept. 11 - which directly affected me.

[Failure]

NY has my sympathy and my respect. A team that has won 26 World Series has no chance in receiving my support. Like LLJ, I can't stand dynasties, the Bulls, the Cowboys, the Yanks, and now the Lakers. Hate 'em all. In fact, all this sentimental support has aligned me more against the Yanks. If it were the Mets I'd prolly root for them though, since they're pretty hapless compared to the Yanks. Besides I'm a huge Schilling fan.

Here's an ESPN article relating to this topic:

http://espn.go.com/page2/s/caple/011026.html

[oranthal]

i really didn't get bob brenly (coach of the d-backs). he pulled Schilling after the 7th inning when he was dominating. his reasoning being he wanted Schlling to get more rest for game 7. if they would have won game 4 and with The Unit pitching game 6, that pretty much a lock; why would he look so far ahead to game 7 unless he is thinking his team is going to lose.

yankee fan or not, you have got to hand it to them; they certainly have a flare for the dramatic.

[DarkAngel]

Originally posted by Failure
Like LLJ, I can't stand dynasties, the Bulls, the Cowboys, the Yanks, and now the Lakers. Hate 'em all. [/URL]

I definitely understand the "hatred" of dynasties, since no one likes to lose. And anytime you have a dynasty, everybody else is losing. But anyone that's been watching the NFL the last couple season knows that those dominant teams are needed. A league where anyone can beat anyone isn't competition. It's parity. And it's pathetic. I can't speak for all sports, as I'm mostly a football fan, but I can say that the NFL isn't what it once was. I want with a vengeance to see teams like the Cowboys and 49ers of the 90s return again. You have to have those teams to hate. It makes their inevitable fall that much more sweeter, and the victory of that upset underdog that much more satisfying. Those teams bring about genuine passion for the games being played. It gives all the other teams a purpose, something to shoot for.

[Leaping Larry Jojo]

Originally posted by DarkAngel


I definitely understand the "hatred" of dynasties, since no one likes to lose. And anytime you have a dynasty, everybody else is losing. But anyone that's been watching the NFL the last couple season knows that those dominant teams are needed. A league where anyone can beat anyone isn't competition. It's parity. And it's pathetic. I can't speak for all sports, as I'm mostly a football fan, but I can say that the NFL isn't what it once was. I want with a vengeance to see teams like the Cowboys and 49ers of the 90s return again. You have to have those teams to hate. It makes their inevitable fall that much more sweeter, and the victory of that upset underdog that much more satisfying. Those teams bring about genuine passion for the games being played. It gives all the other teams a purpose, something to shoot for.

No, I like TWO dominant teams, but not one. Two dominant teams allow for variety and suspense between them, as well as allowing "upset" teams to sneak up behind them and beat BOTH of them.

I'm an NBA guy, and I thought the Laker/Celtics 1980s feud was good entertainment. Both teams were dominant in their respective conferences, but they'd always fought almost to a standstill. Many Finals series went 7 games, which added to the drama. And imagine my delight when the Detroit "Bad Boy" Pistons rose up from the East and ended these two teams' dominance in the late 80s. I like that kind of stuff. But one team over everyone? Not fun.

That said, I will continue to believe that the LA Lakers can be beaten, and I believe that in MLB, the Yankees will lose it one day. So I'm cheering the D-Backs. But they made some bad decisions in the last game, so I don't want to get totally behind chokers who have no confidence in themselves...

[Failure]

I dont know, I like the NFL the way it is right now, in fact, I think that's the model sport league. Parity isn't necessarily a bad thing. I like the fact that a team can go from Super Bowl favorites one year to having to scrap to win 4 games the next year. Or you see the Chargers, who look like they're going to make the playoffs after winning only 1 game last year. I'd rather see different teams get a chance to win the championship, rather than have to learn to hate a dynasty. The way baseball is set up is ridiculous. How are the Yankees in the same league as the Twins? How big is the Yank's payroll? $110 mil? That's like 4 or 5 times as much as the Twins. But you look at the NFL, the Vikings are at the same level as the Giants or Jets. Baseball's financial system is a joke right now.

[DarkAngel]

Originally posted by Leaping Larry Jojo


No, I like TWO dominant teams, but not one. Two dominant teams allow for variety and suspense between them, as well as allowing "upset" teams to sneak up behind them and beat BOTH of them.

Oh, definitely. You're right about that. During the early 90s it was Cowboys/49ers at the top of the league. And what a rivalry that was. Definitely some great moments. Yeah, two really dominant teams is probably the perfect situation, along with some good solid teams just behind them. I just meant that you have to have consistent dominance at the top of a league.

[Failure]

Scott Brosius. Oh my god. There is some kind of conspiracy going on.

[Brian Cruz]

Originally posted by Failure
Scott Brosius. Oh my god. There is some kind of conspiracy going on.

This is shaping up to be the greatest World Series of my lifetime. The '91 series was incredible, but this is... damn, it's indescribable.

If I were Bob Brenly, I'd have a lot of bodyguards with me when I fly back to Arizona. Even if the D'Backs end up winning this game, Brenly is consistantly making inexplicable moves that are seriously hurting his team. Kim threw 68 pitches last night, and Brenly puts him in again today? Ridiculous.

[Failure]

Originally posted by Brian Cruz


This is shaping up to be the greatest World Series of my lifetime. The '91 series was incredible, but this is... damn, it's indescribable.

If I were Bob Brenly, I'd have a lot of bodyguards with me when I fly back to Arizona. Even if the D'Backs end up winning this game, Brenly is consistantly making inexplicable moves that are seriously hurting his team. Kim threw 68 pitches last night, and Brenly puts him in again today? Ridiculous.

Exactly what I was thinking, what was Kim doing out there after throwing so many pitches yesterday. I have to admit this is one heck of a world series. 91 was great too, especially that 7th game. Bases loaded, infield in, poked single. I still remember that. This is great, but unless it goes a good 7th, I dont think I consider it better than '91. Unless your a Yankee fan of course. ;)

[Brian Cruz]

Originally posted by Failure
Exactly what I was thinking, what was Kim doing out there after throwing so many pitches yesterday. I have to admit this is one heck of a world series. 91 was great too, especially that 7th game. Bases loaded, infield in, poked single. I still remember that. This is great, but unless it goes a good 7th, I dont think I consider it better than '91. Unless your a Yankee fan of course. ;)

Yeah, I didn't like the Twins or the Braves in '91, so I enjoyed that series from an outside perspective. My nerves would prefer that the Yankees win game 6, but the baseball fan in me is too tempted by the prospects of game 7... Curt Shilling vs. Roger Clemes. That would be one for the ages.

[Failure]

Ooh Schilling vs. Clemens. Forgot about Clemens. That is just too tempting to pass up. And there's a good chance it'll happen. If RJ's pitching well, Brenly's probably going to let him complete the game. I feel terrible for Byung-Hyun Kim though. It's Bill Buckner, Mitch Williams, and Mark Wohlers all wrapped into one. Times two. Ouch.

[Leaping Larry Jojo]

You heard it here first: Brenly was paid by the Yanks to throw the game. Gotta be rigged...;)

[oranthal]

Schilling vs. Clemens would be very nice indeed. didn't Clemens and Schiling used to train together when Schilling was not the dominant pitcher he is now? i can't believe Brenly ran Kim out there again. aside from the 60 something pitheces he threw on Wednesday, there was no way he was ready mentally after giving up 2 dingers to lose the game on Wednesday. bad managing on brenly's part. Kim must really horrible right about now. i hope he gets through this.