Smallville - How Humans Acquire Kryptonite Powers

[Stupendous Man]

I think this is a Smallville Issue that deserves its own thread ...

I think its vital that 'Smallville' consider how it is that humans acquire powers through kryptonite since its seems to be
the defining point of the series in providing clark with enemies.

How much exposure does it take ?
Personally I dont think two minutes in a steam bath with three
small chunks of kryptonite should turn a man into the Human Torch.

Consider ScarecrowBoy/Electroboy got his powers from bieng in the field where the meteor crashes and gets his electro powers.
Lex was in that same field ...no powers - instead premature baldness.

[ or consider this does Lex have latent meta abilities hes not currently aware of - or keeping to himself ]


Bug-Boy as the board is calling him was bitten by radioactively
affected wasps. We all know what happens when a teenager is
bitten by radioactive spiders and the like .


Question : Lana Lang has been wearing kryptonite around her kneck for 12 years. Why hasnt she developed powers?

Out of all of the residents of Smallville she probably has the highest exposure of kryptonite poisoning. At the very least
she should have a super singing voice.


These discrepancies have to be resolved lest the show become hokey.

I can come up with a variety of different theories that would work for the show.

Im sure some of you will have some interesting theories as well
... but I think its vital to the credibility of the show that they explain this quickly.


Thoughts? ....

[Ricochet]

I now in the comic books prolonged Kryptonite exposure kills a human. Shouldn't Lana be green and wrinkled by now?

[Stupendous Man]

At this point lana should be dead.

Hey maybee thats how clark ends up with Lois ,
Lana his first love dies of Kryptonite poisening.

[Kal-el]

If Lana does die because of the necklace, then Clark will also feel responsible for killing Lana, like he does for her parents. Nice job Clark.
It seems like the entire town will eventually die of kryptonite poisening. Also, with all of that stuff lying around Smallville, how is Clark able to use any of his powers?

[Stupendous Man]

It must be a proximity issue.

It appears that kryptonite only has a very limited
range .. its seems to only be effective if Clark's
within a foot of the green stuff.

I have an issue with how quickly he recovers
once outside its presence.

[Nightwing]

These discrepancies have to be resolved lest the show become hokey.

Agreed. That's what happens when you go too crazy with the "taking NEW looks" on classic stories.


Originally posted by Kal-el
If Lana does die because of the necklace, then Clark will also feel responsible for killing Lana, like he does for her parents. Nice job Clark.
It seems like the entire town will eventually die of kryptonite poisening. Also, with all of that stuff lying around Smallville, how is Clark able to use any of his powers?

Plus! You'd think that if those meteorites were having that drastic an effect on humans then the government would step in and do an investigation.

[watsonlives]

For all we know, that coach might have been taking kryptonite saunas for years. This is the one thing I don't like about Smallvile so far. I don't think there should be a villain in every episode. They should be trying new things. "Superman beats a new bad-guy every episode" is an old formula. I'm more interested in seeing character developmet, which they have done pretty good with so far.

[Stupendous Man]

I posted this on another thread , but it applies
here considering the last posts cry for more
storytelling - less supervillans.

* * *
action killed Lois & Clark

Less action ...more character development .

Thats what this show needs.
You have to feel for Clark .

Then when there finally is action .. you have
a reason to root for Clark and it has greater impact.

Remember Lois & Clark ...great show first two seasons
then the network forced the producers to emphasize on
superheroics and action .

Then the show lost its critical appeal ..the stories were
silly , the effects cheesey ...and the show was cancelled.

Lets not get this show cancelled ....

Action should be well thought out and relevant.

They need to take a few more cues from the aspects of
Buffy & Xfiles that work.

Clark needs a mission ... to give the show a direction
and not allow every episode to be a stand alone , but
rather a chapter in an saga.

A cool concept would be a villan who challenges Clark and
corrupts Lex. Straining a Clark / Lex friendship.

[Stupendous Man]

Heres what I recommend the Producers / Writers do on
Smallville.

First off ...

Obtaining powers from kryptonite should be a slow gradual process due to constant exposure.
Not a result of stumbling on a green glowing rock.

It should be that it affects young people going through
puberty. Young peoples bodies are going through drastic
changes during puberty and the kryptonic exposure alters the
bodies natural progression.

This would make more sense as it would explain why
all of a sudden all of Clarks classmates are developing powers.

Secondly .. (is there such a word?)

I have an interesting idea for a continuing villan.
A secret govt agency coming to Smallville to gather
both Kryptonite and the children altered by the
radiation.
(hey if your gonna steal from x-files - steal the good stuff).


This would be interesting because the townspeople start
realizing that the govt coming in and taking their children ..
snooping around ...gathering kryptonite.

Would be interesting to see Clarks father ..urge Clark to
be even more discreet ..to not use his powers at all.
Clarks mom constantly paranoid that they agency is gonna
find out about Clark.

Clark fighting the desire to help others with his powers ..
risking exposing himself. Clark begins to come up with the
idea that if hes gonna help people he might need a secret
identity .

Third ...

Lex. Young Lex realizes that Kryptonite is important and that
if the govt wants it so much it may be profitable.

In a way Lex becomes Clarks biggest ally in that Lex is working
against the Shadow Govt agency ..to beat them to Kryptonites
secrets.

However the rift between Clark and Lex begins to grow as
Lex's tactict become more aggressive and questionable.
Plus Clark now worries that if the Govt doesnt uncover his
secret Lex will .


Fourth ..
Lana.
Perhaps lana begins to develop a fear of these ..
dare I say 'human mutations' forming a issue for Clark
because as Lana and Clark become closer he fears should
she discover his secret she would no longer be with him.

And finally keep the sexual tension and the Dawsons Creek
vibe throughout and youd have a kick ass show I think.


Anyone else agree this would be the best way to take the series?

[DR. BELCH]

Suppose someone took Kryptonite, boiled it into a liquid, and shot it directly into their veins. Bugger slow exposure to green radiation over years; that'd be a quick kickstart to the system. Now could the body take it, or would he/she fall apart like a rotten potato?

[Calhoun07]

Originally posted by The Spirit
It must be a proximity issue.

It appears that kryptonite only has a very limited
range .. its seems to only be effective if Clark's
within a foot of the green stuff.

I have an issue with how quickly he recovers
once outside its presence.

That being the case, there must be places Clark can't go around town. Unless the kryptonite is buried beneath the soil.

I would have thought government workers would have eradicated the alien rock by now. So far we have seen it used for jewlery and for use in a sauna. Hasn't there been an investigation done on this alien rock by now that would have revealed the dangerous effects? Unless....all the scientists involved became superpowered too and will strike against Clark in a future episode!

In another thread, I wrote about how I expected more from a TV show than simple comic book plot devices in regards to Lex Luthor. I have to reiterate that here and say that the writers continually going back to this fast becoming tired formula is a lazy cop out. And I do expect more from this show.

[Stupendous Man]

Here are some excuses I would use as a writer to
justify these seemingly illogical plot threads.

Perhaps the govt did go to Smallville in 1989 after the
meteor storm and investigated the krypronite fragments.

Perhaps they deemed the kryptonite harmless because
kryptonite emits radiation on a spectrum that cant be detected
by human technology.

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Or perhaps the shadow govt knew that the kryptonite was emitting biologically altering radiation .. and left it there on
purpose. Perhaps they are using Smallville as a testing ground
... observing the effects on the populace .

Now that the townsfolk are gaining powers they sweep in and collect them to use them as govt agents .

[Stupendous Man]

bump.

[Samhaine]

Originally posted by The Spirit
I have an issue with how quickly he recovers
once outside its presence.
I just finished watching the first three episodes, and I had a similar qualm. In fact, I thought it was ridiculous how quickly Clark was affected by the kryptonite, seeing as how it hasn't gone to full power yet (neither has Clark, or else he'd have heat/x-ray vision, flying, super-sight/hearing)

That being the case, it affects him greatly, but because it's not fully developed, it's lasting power is seconds once outside a close proximity.


calhoun07 said
I would have thought government workers would have eradicated the alien rock by now.
Umm, the government doesn't know that it's Krypton. They don't know about Kal-el, or any of that stuff. Meteor showers happen. The government doesn't need to come in and take the rock.

All and all, I'm thinking a Young Bruce Wayne series would have been better. It would make sense for him to be fighting criminals, because the premise was Bruce in Gotham after he did all his training, but before he chose Batman. It would have clicked more.

[Calhoun07]

Yes, meteor showers happen, but certainly something that destructive and that massive hitting the earth would make more than a few scientists and government officials sit up and take notice. Heck, they will even scour Antarticia in search of ONE ROCK (that's how the infamous Mars meteorite was discovered). You can't exect me to believe that the same people who would scour the poles to find new meteorites wouldn't have swarmed all over Smallville in the days after the meteorites hit. And surely they would have tested the rock and found levels of radiation, or turned into superhumans themselves. They could have found that out without knowing it's kryptonite.

[Samhaine]

Originally posted by calhoun07
And surely they would have tested the rock and found levels of radiation, or turned into superhumans themselves. They could have found that out without knowing it's kryptonite.
Well, it surely would have taken awhile for the kryptonite to start radiating. I mean, Clark didn't have his powers when Jon and Martha found him (or Clark found them...). Like I said, it needs a certain amount of the yellow sunlight to start getting it's "power".

Personally, I agree with everyone here. They can't keep going on with kryptonite-powered enemies for Clark. I mean, 4 years of that, and he would be the only one left in Smallville.

[Stupendous Man]

quote:
Well, it surely would have taken awhile for the kryptonite to start radiating. I mean, Clark didn't have his powers when Jon and Martha found him (or Clark found them...). Like I said, it needs a certain amount of the yellow sunlight to start getting it's "power".

~ ~ ~

No offense-
This is ridiculous.

First off -
Kryptonite doesnt have powers .

Second -
It does not get said powers from a yellow sun.

Third -
There is no connection between Clarks developing
powers and kryptonites debilitating affects on his
metabolism.


Kryptonite affects Clark because it is radioactive.

Radiation is bad. Although the radiation isnt immediately
harmfull to humans .. Clark is a Kryptonian with different biology
than humans - so it is lethal to him.

The radiation does not get more potent with its time on
earth . Actually , scientifically , it should get weaker for every
year that its on earth. However , considering that most
radioactive substances half a shelf life of thousands and
thousands of years .. unless smallville follows Clarks adventures
into the year 4423 - the fallout is negligable.

[Ricochet]

I'm sorry, but these people are around green k 24/7! If you go in to the doctor's office to get exposed to an x-ray every day, you're gonna die\! I guess this is just typical Sci-Fi for you... Not that I have anything against SF!

[Stupendous Man]

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[Calhoun07]

Of course, that's why doctors and nurses stand behind those shields when using X Rays.

[Stupendous Man]

It actually takes several hundred exposures to
Xrays to cause you any physical harm ..which is why
the Xray technician stands behind his little safety cove.


Kryptonite is probably similar to xrays when concerning
humans. Casual exposure is harmless ..longterm exposure
potentialy lethal.


Lana's a goner. Im figuring thats how Clark ends up with
Lois ... Lana dies of throat cancer.

* * *

Can we mention briefly that this is now the fifth episode
that follows the formula I mentioned in a previous string.

Clark is exposed to kryptonite upon his first confrontation
with the villan of the week.

Villan of the week thrashes him to a pulp.

Clark gets rid of kryptonite ...then kick villans butt.

The only deviation in the formula yesterday was that
the villan survived last night.


* * *

I formaly challenge the writers to go a single episode
w-out weakening clark w kryptonite.

If your gonna have villans every week - atleast give us
villans that can go toe to toe with Clark.

And resist the urge to make this version of superman
all powerfull.

Lets see Clark bleed ...and not as a result of kryptonite.

[Calhoun07]

How about they break away from the established formula by bringing in other versions of Kryptonite?

Green kryptonite, the only variety potentially fatal to Superman, induces lassitude and inertia followed by death if not removed in time from Superman's presence.

Red kryptonite inflicts bizarre and unpredictable - albeit temporary and nonfatal - symptoms, as when it divides Superman into twins or transforms him into an infant or a giant ant.

Gold kryptonite would permanently rob Superman of his super-powers were he ever to be exposed to its radiations.

These three varieties of kryptonite are similarly hazardous to Supergirl, Krypto the Superdog, and all other surviving natives of Krypton.

Blue kryptonite is toxic only to Bizarro creatures. White kryptonite is harmful only to plant life.

I'd personally think Red Kryptonite would be sufficient enough to change the formual a tad! And make things intersting. Of course, I doubt the writers are going to acknowlge the existence of these various forms of kryptonite from the comics, but it would be interesting to see nonetheless.

[Stupendous Man]

When the series starts using red kryptonite ,
thatll be the moment this series Jumps the Shark.


The comic books have totally eliminated all colored kryptonites
other than green.

The colored kryptonites are from the Golden Age.. the writers
decided to eliminate it in the superman revamp because
it was making the comics silly.

Also the writers in the comics realized something the Smallville
producers have yet to realize ...
RELIANCE ON KRYPTONITE MAKES FOR POOR STORIES!


Enough with the Kryptonite.

I realize that kryptonite is necessary to establish
how humans are gaining metahuman powers - but that
should be it.

Make better villans who dont need kryptonite to
battle with Clark !

* * *

Despite my objections however .. I predict a
Smallville episode where Clark stumbles on
Red Kryptonite and shrinks down to 6 inches.


Then we have six inch Clark saving the day
and Pa and Ma kent telling Clark that a measure
of a man is in his heart not his height .

Then Im going to puke !

[Stupendous Man]

Is it me ?

Everybody who acquires powers from Kryptonite
goes on a killing spree.

Last week changeling-girl killed her own mother and
stuffed her in a cabinet.

Id like to see someone acquire powers on this show
and just be ..hey cool , I can lift pencils with my mind.
Just for balance.

~

Also - smallville residents seemed to be pretty casual about there
young teenage daughters bieng frozen solid ..or eaten by bugteens.

[DR. BELCH]

--you'll get your wish, Spirit. An old woman who can see the future--I don't know if the ol' green rock gave her the talent, but at least she's using it for good. She could be one of those police psychics who finds missing children and solves murders--a kryptonite-powered philanthropist.
Now Lex Luthor was exposed to the stuff...and he hasn't gone whacko...yet.

[Stupendous Man]

True ...there also seems to be some other villan in that episode.
They showed a clip of a man turning clark around and stabbing him in the chest with a butcher knife.

[Samhaine]

Originally posted by The Spirit
quote:
Well, it surely would have taken awhile for the kryptonite to start radiating. I mean, Clark didn't have his powers when Jon and Martha found him (or Clark found them...). Like I said, it needs a certain amount of the yellow sunlight to start getting it's "power".

~ ~ ~

No offense-
This is ridiculous.

First off -
Kryptonite doesnt have powers .
I put the word power in quotation, meaning that I wasn't saying that the kryptonite actually had powers. I was referring to the radiation it gives off.


The Spirit continues...
Second -
It does not get said powers from a yellow sun.
Um...yes it does. Earth's yellow sun affects the kryptonite in such a way that the kryptonite radiates.

If kryptonite gave of the same radiation, and affected Kryptonians in the same way that a piece of kryptonite affects Clark, while it was still known as the planet Krypton, then it would be safe to assume that the Kryptonian race would be exticnt long before Kal-el was born and sent to Earth.

But, it's all a moot point, because Smallville just isn't that great.

[Stupendous Man]

Originally posted by BLOODONE

Um...yes it does. Earth's yellow sun affects the kryptonite in such a way that the kryptonite radiates.

If kryptonite gave of the same radiation, and affected Kryptonians in the same way that a piece of kryptonite affects Clark, while it was still known as the planet Krypton, then it would be safe to assume that the Kryptonian race would be exticnt long before Kal-el was born and sent to Earth.


Sorry - thats actually not true.

If you follow the comic books ( or even the Superman Animated Series as a matter of fact ) you would know that the planet
Krypton was allready poisening its inhabitants.

In the comic book they referred to it as the 'Green Death' .
Jor-el believed it was related to the shifts in the planets tectonic
plates .

It was also the reason Krypton exploded ... and the
reason Clark was shuttled off to Earth.

So it is not true that kryptonite is affected by earths yellow sun ...
at least not the properties which make it harmfull to Clark.

Its green glow could be the result of the differences in earths
atmosphere etc ... but its poisening efffects are simply due to
a radiation which it exudes which is harmfull to kryptonian DNA.

[Stupendous Man]

Ideally I would love if this thread continued throughout
Smallvilles run as a living document observing the
process by which Smallville residents are mutating as
a result of Kryptonite .

The producers may not be giving the process much thought ..
but thats what makes us rabid fans is it not ?
The desire to make sense out of issues the producers and
writers have dropped the ball on or havent given much thought.

* * *

New Observation based on the episode "Hourglass"

Water seems to be a good conduit for the transferrence
of Kryptonite radiation and mutation.

Notice that in "Cool" the character falls into a lake with
kryptonite and gains powers.

In "Hourglass" villan falls into pond with kryptonite
gains powers.

Come to think of it ...
In "Angry Couch Firestarter " he was in a steam bath.
steam .. a form of water.

* * *

So if youd like Super Powers ...
Take a couple cubes of kryptonite
add water .
Stir.
Drink.

Your all set ... invest in spandex .

[DR. BELCH]

--a chemistry standpoint, that makes sense. Water is a splendid catalyst in many chemical reactions. Note also the prescence of heat (eg. hot rocks turn water to steam, body heat, electricity boiling a lake) in the above examples. So ice water might not work--it'd have to be hot water/tea/coffee....

[Lodoss War Fan]

Originally posted by The Spirit

Question : Lana Lang has been wearing kryptonite around her kneck for 12 years. Why hasnt she developed powers?


Lana has the power to attract stalkers. :eek:
Poor Lana, she's a stalker magnet and the worst part is the main character of the show is one of the stalkers.
I mean... yeah Lana's beautiful and nice, but there's got to be other female's in smallville.
I gotta admit, I feel sorry for her boyfriend the guy wit a girl's name. He's got all sorts of weirdos after his girl including guys and girls and Clark :mad:

[RAMPAGE]

I don't know if this will help, but it's something to think about and remember. Here's a review for the old Superboy TV series:


The Kryptonite Kid- A young scientist Mike Walker (Jay Underwood) is working on a cure for kryptonite poisoning to give to Superboy when suddenly an explosion rocks the lab. Melted kryptonite enters Walker's bloodstream and transforms his body into living kryptonite. Walker discovers he can now blast kryptonite energy from his hands and uses his newfound power to escape the military base where the accident occured. He goes on a rampage through the city destroying homes, cars, and businesses. Superboy can't go up against him, but he discovers a look-alike named Vic (Gerard Christopher) and convinces him
to help. Vic, dressed as Superboy, goes up against the Krytonite Kid, but KK discovers he isn't the real Superboy. The real Superboy has to step in to save Vic at the same time risking his life against the power of kryptonite. Vic realizes Superboy is in danger, and becomes a hero by stopping the Kryptonite Kid and saving Superboy's life.

[Stupendous Man]

Rampage ... Im not really sure what your point is supposed to be .

[Calhoun07]

Originally posted by The Spirit
Rampage ... Im not really sure what your point is supposed to be .

That we should consider our selves lucky that Smallville doesn't sound as sucky as that episode sounds?

[RAMPAGE]

I thought the title of this thread was "How Humans accquire kryptonite powers." Well, I gave another krytonite powered villain origin to think about. Is this discussion limited to Smallville?

[Stupendous Man]

Yes, this thread should be limited to the process in which
humans acquire powers via kryptonite on Smallville.

Although you can feel free to use other legitimate DC source material to justify any theories you may have.

[Stupendous Man]

And in our lates episode of Smallville ...

We have new interesting developments regarding this thread.

Our latest V.O.W. (Villan Of the Week) has been
transformed by consuming vegetables produced in
Kryptonite rich soil.

And I thought vegetables were supposed to be good
for you ?

This was a lame villan in an otherwise rich episode.

Interesting development is that Lex may have
suffered more than simple hair loss from his exposure tp
Kryptonite.

In this very thread we have pondered why Lex wasnt
granted metahuman powers bieng in the same field
as electro-boy.

Its hinted in this episode(none to subtley ) that Lex
(who never gets sick and has an abundance of white
blood cells ) may have acquired some form of advanced
healing / health factor.

Interesting.

The introduction of Professor Hamilton and Lex funding research
into Kryptonite and its effects is a promising development for the
show.


I still wonder wether Lana has stopped wearing her kryptonite
knecklace ...( they were in pretty close proximity in that
truck watching a drive in movie ) .. Clark hasnt reacted to
her presence since the Shape-Shift girl episode.

They need to address this point soon.

Has someone warned her not to expose herself to kryptonite ..
I still dont understand why Chloe and Clark have not.

[X-human]

Now, I'm not the biggest Superman comic fan, so just about everything I know comes from Richard Donner's film but...

Since when did Superman "develop" powers when he became a teenager? Isn't his powers based on the fact that his old planet was much different then our own, and actually these "powers" would make him just like us on his own world? He's strong because of his density, is fast because his body just naturally had muscle tone for a planet with different gravity and so on. It's just like having eyes, fingers and toes. They don't just start growing because you're over 13, you had them from the start, so too with Superman's powers. When he was 3 he could lift a car. He JUST noticed in high school that this made him different?

I guess they just threw out all the rules set up before about Superman and are just making it up now as they go along.

[Calhoun07]

In the origins of Superman, we always see baby Supes doing an incredible feat, such as lifting a car, so we know that he does have his powers when he touches down on Earth. But the question is how many powers did he know he had when he grew up?

I don't think that in Smallville we are seeing him beginning to realize he's different. We are seeing a teenager try to deal with it, but I don't see an indication where he's just discovering he's different in Smallville.

In that original Superman that explains how he has his powers, how does he fly?

[Lodoss War Fan]

I heard that for the first season of smallville there not going to make clark fly yet, hopefully maybe on the second season his flight ability kicks in

[Stupendous Man]

You have to remember that there have been
three major versions of Superman .

Superman at his beginning .( He couldnt fly ...he could
just jump really far )

Superman Pre- Crisis.

And the Post - Crisis ... 1986 John Byrne Revamp Superman
who is currently in the comic books.
The superman whose history you should for all intents
and purposes consider the "official superman"

* * *

In the Original Pre Crisis Superman , he did have his
powers as a child. Also in the pre-crisis Superman
Clark arrived on earth as a young boy of two or three.


In the official "real" Superman history however -
Superman was a fetus traveling to earth in a rocket ship.

Kryptonian women didnt give birth , considering the
act barbaric.

When Superman crash lands on earth and is recovered by
the Kents ..he is taken out of the Birth Matrix .

So it is said that Superman was conceived on Krypton but
was born on earth. Leaving the Birthing Matrix is like
leaving the womb.

Superman did not have powers at first ..he was much like
a regular boy ..but for every year he spent on earth he grew
stronger and his powers begin to develop throughout his teen
years.

The theory behind this is that Clark is like a solar battery that
stores energy from our yellow sun.

At birth his reserves are nil ...but as the years passed he stored
more and more energy .
It took 16 to 17 years of storing solar energy to achieve
superhuman power levels.

This how clark can operate at night ... theres no sunlight but
he has stored energy .

Now as observed in the DOOMSDAY - Death of Superman
storyline ... his reserves are not infinite.

In the DOOMSDAY battle he tapped into all his power ...
he got so weak that his invulnerability failed him and his
recuperative abilities failed due to lack of power and he died.

So in this respect .. the gradual development of Clarks powers
Smallville is being faithfull to the Superman Myth.

In a certain respect they are even following the order in
which the comic books claimed supermans powers arrived in.

Strength, invulnerability, xray vision ...and finally flight.


** *

As a last note the Producers of Smallville claim that the
motto for Smallville is "no flights ..no tights"

Meaning that Superman will never fly or wear his standard
costume on this series. A decision I agree with and hope they stick too !

[X-human]

Originally posted by calhoun07
In that original Superman that explains how he has his powers, how does he fly?

If you mean the Donner film, I don't think he knows he can fly untill he builds his fortress of solitude. (For the ppl less knowledgable than even me, he receives 12/13 years of training from his CGI father during this time [in the movie], 17/18 yrs old to 30 yrs old) The principle of how he can fly may either be that he's stronger than gravity (so he's not really flying but jumping without falling untill he wants to), or his own mass/density is able to produce enough of it's own gravity to levitate(sp?) his body. They do seem to skip over the explaination a bit. The original film is over 3 hours long, so it very well may have been cut when the trimmed it down to the 2 hr. version most of us are familiar with today. But Jor-El does explain his strength, his x-ray vision and possibly his laser beams in the very beginning ever before supes is shipped off on his one way trip to earth. It'd be interesting to get a final draft of Donner's script(s) before they decided to hold off on Superman II.

[Stupendous Man]

Theres a thread on here that discusses how
Supermans powers may work.

Its called " Problems Superman would have in the real world".

The conclusion reached , using the comics as source material,
is that his power of flight is a result a limited telekenetic ability.

I'll bump up the thread so you can read it ...
maybee throw in your own 2 cents.

* * *

I dont really think the Superman Movies , however much
I love them , should be used as a referrence when
discussing Supes.

It would be like picking a Charlton Heston movie
over the bible to discuss theology.

Its just not done.

[X-human]

Originally posted by The Spirit
I dont really think the Superman Movies , however much I love them , should be used as a referrence when discussing Supes.


Yeah, that's why I tried to clearly state as possible that I was talking solely about the movie. Although I think they tried to stay as close to what you called the Pre-Crisis Superman as possible, it's a movie so I'd never take it as bible truth.

I got chewed out onces by comic buffs when I talked about the X-Men movie, since all my information came from the animated X-Men series from the early 90's. I soon found out that the series was very different from the comics.

Thanks to all your information Spirit, I now hate the Smallville series much less because you fixed some continuity for me. Heh, all my info is pratically stone aged I guess.