View Full Version : None of you are Old School
Artimus Gigan
06-01-2004, 12:23 AM
I just realised somthing, there was a point in history when other inventions(board games, pinball machines, carney luck/skill games) pre-dated the first console prototype. Yet no one ever mentions here that P&P RPGS blow the pants off of the 8 bit offerings. I mean think about it compare Dungeons and Dragons to the 8 bit final fantasies or Zeldas, yes D&D can DO MORE, and all considering it had more options of play(it just had many itty bitty pieces that could be swallowed by stupid children who got the idea that plastic is really delicious food), granted FF allowed you to create your own team, but D&D allowed you to create your own character...FROM SCRATCH! But you couldn't really see your character considering it was all words on paper, but he was recognisable as a small brightly colored piece on the board. And ofcourse nothing stirs the soul more than a good ol' fashioned D&D fight because the Dungeon master decides to not ressurect you..ahh the memories...the skull fractures...the broken bones..the many trips to the hospital to get a foriegn object removed from deep within your body cavity..none of the 8-bit RPGS had that happen...
Also Pinball, ah yes bright lights flashy colors, strange sounds, it made more noise than the first console, and all that pinball machines were/are is 1 player pong with obsticals and goals. I mean you got rewarded when you hit the right marker with a bling or a buzz and a light would go off, when you hit it right in pong all that happened is that the ball went past the other player and a number would go up by one...
So there...
I made a statement on how things were going on back then...
Lord Dalek
06-01-2004, 12:24 AM
Just to let you know I played D&D long before I played Final Fantasy. Whose old school now?
Artimus Gigan
06-01-2004, 12:32 AM
Which version of D&D?
guinaevere
06-01-2004, 12:55 AM
Actually some of us have played the old pen and paper Mech, StarFleet Command, D&D, and White Wolf games from way on back when.
Free cookie to the first one here who guesses correctly as to who I'm referring to. :D
/rant begins
Why does this remind me of the 20ish waitress at Applebees who seeing some internet commercial or other (with people holding up cards, like the old Bob Dylan promo video for Bringing it all Back Home), and she says, "oh, how old school! I loved INXS!"
To which I wanted to scream. Not because I'm a Dylan fan, I'm not. But because some kid is telling the world about how she appreciates old school, which, to her, is mid/late 80s. Yeah. She's SO old school./rant ends
That wasn't aimed at you, Gigan. I respect you and your massive robotic collection. It just struck a chord (pardon the Dylan-esque pun) and I had to sound off.
Artimus Gigan
06-01-2004, 01:04 AM
The point of this thread is that being that there is always people that have experianced the precursors and what's retro to some was new to them way back when...
and you will respect the robots
for when the metal ones come for you...AND THEY WILL!!
James
06-01-2004, 04:42 AM
I feel this a lot. People talk about 8-bit and my ears perk up and I realise to them 8-bit is Nintendo game system - I remember that coming out as a new fad and all the gamers dispairing at how this Nintendo would bring in all the casual gamers and no one would be hardcore anymore.. etc..
Yeah, I played the old RPGs - paper ones.. D&D, Dragon Warriors, Cyberpunk (many a tale on that what one...).. I remember the great days of "Champion Of Krynn" on the Amiga and "Mega Traveller" (both on Amiga and on paper). I remember the exciting days of "Laser Squad" and "Bards Tale". Even "Chaos" it's 48k glory...
Zelda? Ha! I laugh at Zelda...... that was for Newbies! etc.
Yeah, and there were those who are old enough to be even before me... :)
Sailor Chibi Otaku
06-01-2004, 08:22 AM
I may have been only born in 1980 but I've played some P&P.
Hell!! From time to time (actually, every Thursday), my brother and his friends play "Warhammer 40K" and I don't mean on the PlayStation.
That's kinda a grim assessment to say that no one here is "old school".
Invader_Spooch
06-01-2004, 12:00 PM
This is a pretentious, idiotic thread. Sorry us "youngins" (anyone born 1980 or later) aren't cool enough to be in your special club.:shrug:
guinaevere
06-01-2004, 12:34 PM
The point of this thread is that being that there is always people that have experianced the precursors and what's retro to some was new to them way back when... Exactly. [shaky old woman voice]back in my day, we used to play with rocks! now that's old school.[/voice]
and you will respect the robots You know I do.
for when the metal ones come for you...AND THEY WILL!! I got it covered. Klatu Baraada Nikto and all that. http://img25.photobucket.com/albums/v76/guinaevere/smilies/wink_ani.gif
This is a pretentious, idiotic thread. Exactly the point Gigan is making about one claiming to be old school... it's all relative.
Sorry us "youngins" (anyone born 1980 or later) aren't cool enough to be in your special club.:shrug: Why be sorry? It's nothing to do with an elite club of someone born at one time or another. That's rather stoopid in it's premise. Rather, it's about recognizing that your idea of the starting point, your conception of old school, is just that, your preception.
The waitress I was talking about had a major chip on her shoulder, was attempting to come over as informed, wise or knowledgable, when in fact, she was completely ignorant about the thing she was waxing philosophic about.
There's always something to be learned or enjoyed from an earlier generation. It's like my grrl Chibi, still playing the P&P games. I remember having a conversation with my Grammy about an older film, she was shocked that I knew of it and had watched. "what are you doing watching, It Happened One Night?" she asked. I told her I don't like limiting myself. I enjoy old silent Alfred Hitchcock films, as well as modern day cinema.
The phrase "old school" is over and mis-used today. That's Gigan's point.
Sailor Chibi Otaku
06-01-2004, 01:10 PM
I WANT to play more but I can't find anyone.
Warhammer 40K is fun but I'm more into the Middle Ages, like D&D, you know? God how I miss that one!! :(
Yeah, a metal head grrl who's into the Middle Ages and a lot of cute things, like shoujo anime/manga. :D Mwha!! :D
Exactly like said above. I have "The Adventures of Robin Hood" on DVD (I LOVE him!!). The movie was released in 1938. If I see someone who's old enough to remember that one, they'll be shocked to know that I have it and I LOVE it. It's so cute. Hardly any violence and no swearing. It's adorable, and Will Scarlet literally wears red!! :anime:
Artimus Gigan
06-01-2004, 01:31 PM
This is a pretentious, idiotic thread. Sorry us "youngins" (anyone born 1980 or later) aren't cool enough to be in your special club.:shrug:Actualy you can get P&P RPGS at Toys R Us and Barnes and Nobel and I think Boarders
and I was born in 1985...
g_UnIt_GaNsTa
06-01-2004, 01:36 PM
Meh. I hate P & P rpgs.
"My elvish lawyer smacks your drunken dwarf with his brief case!"
My opinion.
Tanooki
06-01-2004, 01:44 PM
Zelda? Ha! I laugh at Zelda...... that was for Newbies! etc.oh man... i think i'm hurt... :sad:
anywho. i've never considered myself "old school". my first system was the nes and i never had any real interest in playing dungeon and dragons and all that other junk. sure. it sounds fun, but finding a group of friends to play it with me was extremely rare to come across as i live in a tiny town. anyway...yeah. zelda rocks and if that's as "old school" as i'm going to get, fine with me
Hero
Andrew T. Hingson
06-01-2004, 01:51 PM
My old skool is Super Mario Bros.
Everyone's old skool is different.
It's like we graduated from highschool or college on different years.
My old skool is the class of 84.
Some people consider the SNES, the Saturn, the PSOne, and even the N64 old skool. It all depends when you were born and when you got into gaming.
Obviously D&D is more "old skool" than Zelda but that's just someone else's old skool to my generation it's more like history.
There are plenty of games older than D&D though. Tops and Go for instance.
Lord Dalek
06-01-2004, 01:55 PM
Which version of D&D?Original, the one with the old 80's logo in the red box.
oranthal
06-01-2004, 02:39 PM
Hey, I've played kicked the can with my friends. Those were good times.
Squall
06-01-2004, 04:39 PM
HyperLuigi is exactly right -- what is "old school" to you is what was popular in our culture when you were in junior high, high school & college -- after it has been replaced with a new generation of junior high, high school & college students. :)
Let's see... I graduated from high school in 1995, and from college in 2001, so what's old school for me?
I can remember when these things were brand new:
-the original Transformers, GI Joe, MOTU, Thundercats, SuperFriends
-the NES, Super NES, Sega Genesis, and PlayStation
-the Game Boy (original black & white, not even the color one)
-the Commodore 64
...and a hundred other things that were popular but I probably didn't care about. :p
RAINMAN
06-02-2004, 01:00 AM
RPG`s are not my cup of kool aid. I have not play a pinball machine in years. But I`m sure none of you would not get a higher score then me.:D
Chris Wood
06-02-2004, 11:57 AM
Er, is this thread about bragging about having played Dungeons and Dragons? How embarrassing. There was a group of students who regularly played D&D in the lounge of my dorm in college (sometimes in costume!!), and this was certainly no club anyone would desire to belong to.
(OK, so I did play it once or twice in elementary school, but that's it. Dungeon on the other hand, now that's a classic board game).
Zyzzybalubah
06-02-2004, 02:13 PM
Eh, I think I'll stick to NES, Atari 2600-7800, and Intellivision being old school for me. P&P RPGs like Dungeons and Dragons never caught my interest, and I don't think they ever will.
AdamYJ
06-02-2004, 09:56 PM
I'm not all that old school. I was just born in '82, so I didn't have much of a chance to be.
I've never played P&P role playing games, I'm not even too crazy about the video game versions. I do still like pinball though. It's a good way to waste a couple of quarters. Maybe it's the sounds and lights and promise of a free game. Maybe it's the way that the women on the backboard of the games always seemed to be spilling out of their clothes (I still remember the first time I saw a TMNT pinball game. I don't remember April O'Neil ever looking like that in the cartoons). Anyway, it's just good, classic fun. Though, it's nothing like that perennial favorite: Skeeball. I could play one of those machines for hours. Also, if you win 1387 tickets, you just may be able to afford that tootsie roll pop you had your eye on. Also, the old video arcade machines are fun. Though my heart still belongs to the ones from the late '80s and early '90s like TMNT or X-Men, the really old ones are still cool. You can't beat Pac-Man, Centipede or Asteroids. Y'know, there's actually an old Asteroids Deluxe machine floating around in my family that used to be from my Grandfather's restaraunt before he closed it. It's in my aunt and uncle's garage now and it still receives frequent play upon visits.
tinlunlau
06-03-2004, 04:52 PM
i remember the P&P TMNT rpg....
and i want to get that.
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