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Uncle Beaglebub
05-31-2004, 03:14 AM
1. Her caring, sweet nature. Helping other people is her goal in life.

2. She's unstoppable. She can't be hurt, and if she's trapped she will escape. And then she'll kick your butt.

3. She has a cute scowl when she's angry. I like how she growls when she's frustrated.

4. Her "Puppy-Dog Pout Secret Weapon".

5. She's very smart. You can't fool her. If you are lying or hiding something from her, she will find out about it.

6. Her "flippy hair".

7. She's a good girl. She obeys her parents, and tolerates her brothers even though they are brats.

8. She's willing to be friends with anyone. As long as you're not a villain out to take over the world, then she likes you.

9. She has a clothing style all her own. Her black top and cargo pants are cute.

10. She has a great singing voice. She sounds just like Christy Carlson Romano.

Dudley
05-31-2004, 03:40 AM
Dang, this is going to be hard for non-hardcore KP fans. Let's see how many I can name.

The witty humor that can rarely be found in recent Disney cartoons.
The animation (who animated it anyway).
The character design.

BigKPFan76
05-31-2004, 04:52 PM
What can I say? The show works! It has all the right elements, likable characters, fantastic animation, and some of the best voice actors around! :)

sag_2002
06-01-2004, 08:54 PM
10: She's so friendly, and will do whatever it takes to help her friends and family.

9: Kim's got a way-cool sidekick and a really awesome computer geek.

8: Her gadgets.

7: She knows martial arts, and is not afraid to kick butt.

6: Her fashions.

5: Ron may be the jokester of the group, but Kim can provide some witty banter whenever needed.

4: The Pout. Classic evasion maneuver.

3: Her frequent run-ins with She-Go

2: The bad guys.

1: Three words (and if you've been following a couple of my recent comments on the Entertainment Board, you may know where I'm going with this)... Christy Carlson Romano.

tucsoncoyote
06-01-2004, 11:01 PM
I'm going to jump in here, and comment one interesting thing about Kim (and this goes all the way back to the very first Episode, Crush).

Kim Possible is perhaps the most Manneristic Teen for the ages currently. why? Because she says 2 words that Teens don't even bother saying (and the interesting thing. is that she says it all in one sentence..

Please and Thank you. (that's it..)

I've never come across an idea or a way to depict a teenager with manners. In fact in todays world, it's hard to find a teen who's polite.

so I say to Bob Schooley and Mark McCorkle who created this wonderful average girls.. is there anyway to repopulate the film so that she says those simple things that are indeed... manners?

Please and Thank you.

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shogunthethird
06-02-2004, 12:24 AM
She's a cheerleader who's not a total b-word, on top of that she's friends with a guy like me...I would've killed to be in Ron's position in HS

Greg Weisman wrote for that show, if he wrote for it you know it's good

Shego: not since Demona has evil looked this good

Kim may be the show to break the infamous "65 episode rule"...... I hope

the Fearless ferret returns...a Batman Beyond parody featuring two former batmen, that parody couldn't have been better if Mark Hammill was in it

Antiyonder
06-02-2004, 01:00 AM
I'm going to jump in here, and comment one interesting thing about Kim (and this goes all the way back to the very first Episode, Crush).

Kim Possible is perhaps the most Manneristic Teen for the ages currently. why? Because she says 2 words that Teens don't even bother saying (and the interesting thing. is that she says it all in one sentence..

Please and Thank you. (that's it..)

I've never come across an idea or a way to depict a teenager with manners. In fact in todays world, it's hard to find a teen who's polite.

so I say to Bob Schooley and Mark McCorkle who created this wonderful average girls.. is there anyway to repopulate the film so that she says those simple things that are indeed... manners?

Please and Thank you.

:coyote:

Other teen shows (Lizzie McGuire, Two Of A Kind , etc.) give the impression that girls need to be brain dead. In addition to manners, Kim isn't afraid to be intelligent.

Uncle Beaglebub
06-02-2004, 01:32 AM
She's a cheerleader who's not a total b-word, on top of that she's friends with a guy like me...I would've killed to be in Ron's position in HS

Dead solid perfect, man. Most of the girls were like Bonnie when I was in High School. I sure could have used loyal friends like Kim and Ron, that's all I can say. Graduating from High School is still, after almost 20 years, the most happy day of my life. I think that's another reason why I like to watch this show so much, because it gives me a chance to relive my teen years the way they were supposed to be.

tucsoncoyote
06-02-2004, 03:16 AM
Other teen shows (Lizzie McGuire, Two Of A Kind , etc.) give the impression that girls need to be brain dead. In addition to manners, Kim isn't afraid to be intelligent.
How true that Statement is as well Antiyonder. After all I noticed that all of these shows (Lizzie McGuire, Sister SIster, and at least a couple of others, really are shows where the characters seem braindead (Hate to say it, but Lizzie McGuire felt to me that she was totally clueless as to what is going o..

But I think Kim Possible, is perhaps the first breed of New shows (that I hope) The Walt Disney Company will hang on to.. Namely the Intelligent Girl, who knows what is going on, and if need be what it takes to resolve it type of show. (That plus the fact that this show is also an action adventure comedy.)

(Besides Kim Possible, just recently as we all know Disney Accquired from Teletoons of Canada, perhaps their second best show on ABC Family, namely Braceface, and indeed the character here isn't braindead either, (Sharon is who I am refering to) but this one still has that feel that while Sharon does know the score, sometimes some things in life (and her braces) get in the way). again this one is a Comedy with a Lot less action and adventure but it does make you think.. and it's these kind of shows I highly approve of as they really show that the character does have at least some reasoning power here. )

so Hopefully this is perhaps a trend starting.. let's just hope it continues..

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shogunthethird
06-03-2004, 03:44 AM
more intelligent girls is definitely a good thing, I can't be the only guy here attracted to smart women (well smart enough to understand me anyway)

tucsoncoyote
06-03-2004, 04:54 AM
more intelligent girls is definitely a good thing, I can't be the only guy here attracted to smart women (well smart enough to understand me anyway)
I hear where you are coming from shogun, and in fact you're not alone.. (Heck My first crush was Velma Dinkely (The smart one) from Scooby Doo. My Next two crushes came in the form of Valerie (Josie and the Pussycats) and Dee Dee (Captain Caveman and the TeenAngels) of course the latest ones to come down the pike are of course Kim Possible and She-go (one good and smart; the other bad and smart..)

so no shogun you're not alone..

but then it makes me ponder a question here..is it because of Kim's intelligence that Ron Stoppable is attracted (though not romantically) to Kim? or is it the fact that he's just a friend..? (that's been a problem that been bugging me no end, and it vexes me so..) Also the same holds true for She-go and Drakken.. was Dr. Drakken really the intelligent one of these two? or was it really She-go who attacted him (after all it seems intelligence attracts intelligence.. go figure..

but believe me shogun you're not alone in this puzzlement, of contemplating intelligent women.. a lot of intelligent guys are wondering the same thing..

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Uncle Beaglebub
06-04-2004, 01:58 AM
I hear where you are coming from shogun, and in fact you're not alone.. (Heck My first crush was Velma Dinkely (The smart one) from Scooby Doo. My Next two crushes came in the form of Valerie (Josie and the Pussycats) and Dee Dee (Captain Caveman and the TeenAngels) of course the latest ones to come down the pike are of course Kim Possible and She-go (one good and smart; the other bad and smart..)

so no shogun you're not alone..

but then it makes me ponder a question here..is it because of Kim's intelligence that Ron Stoppable is attracted (though not romantically) to Kim? or is it the fact that he's just a friend..? (that's been a problem that been bugging me no end, and it vexes me so..) Also the same holds true for She-go and Drakken.. was Dr. Drakken really the intelligent one of these two? or was it really She-go who attacted him (after all it seems intelligence attracts intelligence.. go figure..

but believe me shogun you're not alone in this puzzlement, of contemplating intelligent women.. a lot of intelligent guys are wondering the same thing..

:coyote:
Thinking too much!
There are no RULES!
Hee hee!
BTW, I think my first TV crush was Dedrie Hall on "Electra Woman and Dyna Girl". Who was then replaced with Lynda Carter on "Wonder Woman". Ah, the 70's...

I've always had a fascination with intelligent, powerful, beautiful superheroines.

Ajax
06-04-2004, 07:06 PM
How true that Statement is as well Antiyonder. After all I noticed that all of these shows (Lizzie McGuire, Sister SIster, and at least a couple of others, really are shows where the characters seem braindead (Hate to say it, but Lizzie McGuire felt to me that she was totally clueless as to what is going on...Now hold on there, you can't compare Lizze McGuire to KP. Kim Possible is based on basically a perfect young girl, whose pretty, smart, nice, athletic and whose saves the world. Lizze's based on most average preteen and teen girls who just care about how they look and what they wear. Lizze in no way was depicted as just being braindead. In the show the producers made her somewhat book smart, but with hardly any common sense. You won't believe the countless girls in America who are pretty and booksmart but lack common sense.


But I think Kim Possible, is perhaps the first breed of New shows (that I hope) The Walt Disney Company will hang on to.. Namely the Intelligent Girl, who knows what is going on, and if need be what it takes to resolve it type of show. But how many girls in America are like KP, expect for the secert agent thing of course. I mean that's why shows like sister sister and Lizze McGuire aren't animated, and show's like KP aren't realistic. Lizze McGuire shows the problems of real pre-teen girls and teens. KP does not do that, they just show a perfect girl who no matter what always seem to wins. But shows like KP and Lizze McGuire aren't bad it all and provide good examples, it's just one is more real life and the other more cartoony (did I just make that up).

Anyways this is what leads me to replying to this topic, there lots of things to love about KP. The producers made her a likeable character, even if I was a KP hater, I still couldn't find anything that's unappealing about her. She basically the perfect character, and there a couple shows with characters like that. The better example dare I say Totally Spies!

tucsoncoyote
06-04-2004, 10:47 PM
But how many girls in America are like KP, expect for the secert agent thing of course. I mean that's why shows like sister sister and Lizze McGuire aren't animated, and show's like KP aren't realistic. Lizze McGuire shows the problems of real pre-teen girls and teens. KP does not do that, they just show a perfect girl who no matter what always seem to wins. But shows like KP and Lizze McGuire aren't bad it all and provide good examples, it's just one is more real life and the other more cartoony (did I just make that up).

Anyways this is what leads me to replying to this topic, there lots of things to love about KP. The producers made her a likeable character, even if I was a KP hater, I still couldn't find anything that's unappealing about her. She basically the perfect character, and there a couple shows with characters like that. The better example dare I say Totally Spies!That's True Comic Book Guy, but then you have to look at really what is going on in today's world as well (or have you been reading the news lately?)

Today's world of Teenage Girls is perhaps one that isn't even up to Lizzie McGuire, Even Stevens or Even Sister Sister Quality.. After all in a Recent Report that was on the News 1 out of every 10 Girls now a days enact come form of violence but not in a Constructive way...(sure you can say Kim is violent, but it's a Constructive form of Violence, after all she knows when to fight and when not to fight..and a Lot of times Kim's fighting skills aren't always put to the test..(sometimes she has to use the intelligence she has to solve a problem rather then her fists..

but let's get off this for just a moment before getting back on.. Which Type of Daughter would you REALLY want if you were a parent? someone say Like Lizzie McGuire, or Raven Baxter? Or someone Like Kim? Sure Kim's perfect but Lizzie McGuire is probably closer to what you would really get.. but what my point is that (Getting back onto track here) is that not even a lot of Teenage girls don't even come up to Lizzie's Standards... and that in itself is a Real Shame..

But there is one thing that Kim can do that Lizzie Can't.. She can be used as a means to be a Role Model.. after alll I'm not saying Kim Possible is far from Perfect (Need I remind everyone about the Episode October the 31st where Kim actually LIED and got into more hot water then she realized). But at least she can be more of a Role model to young impressionable girls out there..

and it's not only Kim that is like that.. Another good example is also Sharon From Braceface, and in Fact Comic Book Guy, if you took Lizzie McGuire and Kim Possible and fused the two ideas together, and got rid of the spy angle of this, you do indeed get Sharon..

So Kim is just one Role model out there, and believe me Lizzie's another and Sharon's a third, but they are all saying the same thing here, just that they do it on different levels of approach.. and that's all I am going to say about that.

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Antiyonder
06-04-2004, 10:48 PM
Now hold on there, you can't compare Lizze McGuire to KP. Kim Possible is based on basically a perfect young girl, whose pretty, smart, nice, athletic and whose saves the world. Lizze's based on most average preteen and teen girls who just care about how they look and what they wear. Lizze in no way was depicted as just being braindead. In the show the producers made her somewhat book smart, but with hardly any common sense. You won't believe the countless girls in America who are pretty and booksmart but lack common sense.
Even Kim has flaws, so she isn't perfect:
A: She didn't get top grade on her drivers test.

B: She didn't know how to handle someone being handicapped (Felix).


Try not to sterotype. Some girls lack common, not all of them. That's like saying that all guys 22 yrs old or older smoke and drink. Even if someone offered me $1,000 to do so, I'd turn them down.

Lizzie McGuire portrays pre-teen and teen girls life accurately? So you're saying:
A: That teen girls always meet celebrities (Aaron Carter/Frankie Muniz)?
B: Younger siblings end up at their sister's junior high school?
C: Parents have low IQ?*
D: Cheerleaders have control where students sit at lunch?**

* Networks tend to portray clueless parents as idiots. Being clueless means being unable to pick up on subtle remarks, but still having basic knowledge. Take Lizzie's dad, if you were to ask him what 2+2 equals, he's likely to get a headache figuring it out or coming up with 2+2=10.

**You know the episode where Kate and the other cheerleaders force the lesser students of the tables? Lunches are supervised, so if a cheerleader or anyone pulled that stunt, they would find themselves sitting in the principal's office for the rest of lunch.

tucsoncoyote
06-04-2004, 10:55 PM
Even Kim has flaws, so she isn't perfect:
A: She didn't get top grade on her drivers test.

B: She didn't know how to handle someone being handicapped (Felix).


Try not to sterotype. Some girls lack common, not all of them. That's like saying that all guys 22 yrs old or older smoke and drink. Even if someone offered me $1,000 to do so, I'd turn them down.That's true and yes Even Kim has Lied Antiyonder (Refer back to October 31st) but your logic here is very sound.



Lizzie McGuire portrays pre-teen and teen girls life accurately? So you're saying:
A: That teen girls always meet celebrities (Aaron Carter/Frankie Muniz)?
B: Younger siblings end up at their sister's junior high school?
C: Parents have low IQ?*
D: Cheerleaders have control where students sit at lunch?**

* Networks tend to portray clueless parents as idiots. Being clueless means being unable to pick up on subtle remarks, but still having basic knowledge. Take Lizzie's dad, if you were to ask him what 2+2 equals, he's likely to get a headache figuring it out or coming up with 2+2=10.

**You know the episode where Kate and the other cheerleaders force the lesser students of the tables? Lunches are supervised, so if a cheerleader or anyone pulled that stunt, they would find themselves sitting in the principal's office for the rest of lunch.And believe me you're spot on here as well in all cases, after all that seems to be the general consensus of parents (and it's funny that if you haven't noticed, in most of the Disney shows, they tend to portray the father (Kim's Dad, Penny's Dad (Oscar), Lizzie's Dad, Raven's Dad) as the Clueless ones? While the Mothers seem to be the ones who know the score.. (Call it Mother Daughter Bonding? *Shrug*)

but how true that is, antiyonder, how true that is!..;)

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Antiyonder
06-04-2004, 11:01 PM
And believe me you're spot on here as well in all cases, after all that seems to be the general consensus of parents (and it's funny that if you haven't noticed, in most of the Disney shows, they tend to portray the father (Kim's Dad, Penny's Dad (Oscar), Lizzie's Dad, Raven's Dad) as the Clueless ones? While the Mothers seem to be the ones who know the score.. (Call it Mother Daughter Bonding? *Shrug*)

but how true that is, antiyonder, how true that is!..;)

:coyote:
Kim's Dad does come off a bit smarter thought (Then again, he is a rocket scientist).

Think we'll ever learn her parent's names?

tucsoncoyote
06-04-2004, 11:07 PM
Kim's Dad does come off a bit smarter thought (Then again, he is a rocket scientist).

Think we'll ever learn her parent's names?
Will we even Learn Ron's Parent's Names???!! that's a good question!

of course I can always say does She-go have parents? :D After all If Drakken has a mother... why not She-go?:confused:

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Ajax
06-05-2004, 03:48 AM
Even Kim has flaws, so she isn't perfect:
A: She didn't get top grade on her drivers test.

B: She didn't know how to handle someone being handicapped (Felix)Wow, I wish evey young person in America had her flaws. And lying, come on that's just human nature. I probably shouldn't of used the word perfect so freely



Try not to sterotype. Some girls lack common, not all of them. That's like saying that all guys 22 yrs old or older smoke and drink. Even if someone offered me $1,000 to do so, I'd turn them down.I'm not sterotyping at all. I'm sorry if I came on like I was, what I was trying to say is that most girls in America act like Lizze and Raven ect. Of course not all girls act like that, some care more about other things then popularity and how they look. And let me tell you, I bet you at least half of the 22 years olds in America do smoke and drink. Besides, I wouldn't smoke, but if somebody gave me a grand to just drink well hell I be 22 right, might as well.


Lizzie McGuire portrays pre-teen and teen girls life accurately? So you're saying:
A: That teen girls always meet celebrities (Aaron Carter/Frankie Muniz)?
B: Younger siblings end up at their sister's junior high school?
C: Parents have low IQ?*
D: Cheerleaders have control where students sit at lunch?**. Oh come on there buddy you know I wasn't talking about things like that, those things you mention are just there to add more appeal to the show. I mean how interesting can a pre-teen and teen life be without some wierd family involved and there misadventures. And anyways those examples you gave aren't so farfetched as you think. Teens meeting celebs is a reality. It does happen you know. And if you haven't been to highschool, popular people do have control on where people "can't" sit at least.


* Networks tend to portray clueless parents as idiots. Being clueless means being unable to pick up on subtle remarks, but still having basic knowledge. Take Lizzie's dad, if you were to ask him what 2+2 equals, he's likely to get a headache figuring it out or coming up with 2+2=10.

**You know the episode where Kate and the other cheerleaders force the lesser students of the tables? Lunches are supervised, so if a cheerleader or anyone pulled that stunt, they would find themselves sitting in the principal's office for the rest of lunch. Your looking to hard into this friend, if networks didn't protray things like that, well all we have is another KP type of show. Lizze was aimed at pre-teens who act like her and I'm pretty sure they don't care how smart the parents are or if the school has supervision. Plus, there where some ep. that delt with some real life problems a pre teen might face. Like the ep. with Miranda and her eating disorder.

BigKPFan76
06-05-2004, 05:24 PM
I thought the name of this thread was "10 things I like about Kim Possible" not "10 reasons why KP is "unrealistic" and Raven and Lizzie McGuire are closer to real life"

Dude, we all have our own opinion about stuff. I honestly dont think that Raven or LM are any more realistic or fake than any other show out there. But I do have to say one thing.........THEY ARE TV SHOWS, THEY ARE FAKE, THEY DO NOT REPRESENT REAL LIFE! Most teenage girls dont act like Lizzie McGuire, most teenage girls dont act like Raven. Raven Baxter and Lizzie McGuire are fictional characters, potrayed very well by actresses. KP is also a fictional character potrayed by an actress (Christy you're the best!!:) ) None of these characters are any more real or any less real than the other or any more like real life. In other words, most teenage girls exhibit personality traits from all three. But none are exactly like Raven, or exactly like LM, or exactly like KP. This thread was about what we like about KP, in other words.....an opinion. And if someone thinks that KP is closer to real life than another girl on TV........Then thats their OPINION. I personally think that all of these girls have traits like real girls, but I dont think that any one of them is like a real girl to the "T". You're never going to meet a girl who is exactly like Raven or LM or KP.

Antiyonder
06-05-2004, 05:56 PM
Another positive thing about Kim is, she can't be bought off (Ron Millionaire).

tucsoncoyote
06-05-2004, 06:16 PM
Another positive thing about Kim is, she can't be bought off (Ron Millionaire).That's very true there Antiyonder, after all sure it may sound unrealistic to some, but I guess you could say Kim Possible has Ethics..and she it one who is very ethical, even when it comes to defeating the bad guys..

Case in point, Naked Genius, Here you have Kim, rather then beating Shego and Drakken up into a real messy pulp, instead uses a New Gadget (The Expanding Goo wrist shooter as I love to call it) to Capture She-go and Drakken. (of course the stuff is highly unbreakable and we see kim and Ron Walking out of the lair, leaving Drakken and She-go to be picked up for the police.

Also I have to comment about Motor Ed here as well, Kim does show a bit of herself as being a bit more realistic when she can't really cope with the fact that Felix in a wheelchiar, and she can walk. I don't really know what it is, but she seemed to be a bit uncomfortable about talking about issues like that.

so I really wonder if we're starting to see where the show is taking a new evolution, and is indeed making her seem more plausible each day as "just an ordinary girl."

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Uncle Beaglebub
06-06-2004, 12:04 AM
To me, Kim is an ideal. The way we are meant to be. She represents something to strive for. Nobody can be as patient, or as nice as she is. I want to be like her. I want to be brave, and nice to everybody. I want to be like Kim, do what she does, but I can only keep trying. It's all we can do, just keep trying to do the right thing. What I wish is that more people would do that, TRY to be like Kim. There is no crime in being kind to other people, or doing moraly correct actions.

The show gives her a few human flaws, just to make her more realistic in her quest to do good in the world:

Oct. 31st: Kim wanted to do something different for Halloween, but she didn't want to hurt Ron's feelings by turning him down. In a cascade effect, her lies kept compounding. She lied to her parents to keep from hurting their feelings as well, etc. Basically, I think Kim learned that you shouldn't lie to people even if telling the truth would hurt their feelings.

Motor Ed: Kim's caring nature caused her to feel pity and guilt around Felix. It comes natural for her to feel this way. I would cut slack for her, since this is obviously the first handicapped friend she met. We learn by doing, and Kim learned that she didn't have to feel uncomfortable around Felix after she got to know him. She learned that handicaps disappear when you meet someone. She also learned that the vast majority of the handicapped don't wish for healthy people to feel guilt, or for anyone to pity their existence.

And an obvious flaw in Kim: If you push her buttons enough, she will take out her anger on you. She's nice, but watch out! Take her extreme frustration with Bonnie. Kim goes out of her way to put Bonnie in her place when she gets truly annoying. Kim of course, holds her temper as best possible :bosko: . You won't see her giving Bonnie the kick in the shins that she really deserves.