Which networks do you think really go into overkill?

[Antiyonder]

If I'm incorrect then please inform me. Today networks insist on airing the current hip shows 100 per days, where as decades ago network could be filled with a variety of shows. If the higher ups would focus on variety, then we wouldn't need the additional networks like: MTV2, Toon Disney, Nicktoons, Nick Gas, Boomerang, TV Land. Even those channels show certain program more than once a day, so what's the point.

So which networks do you think over do the multiple airings of shows?

I go with Disney Channel, Nickelodeon, Cartoon Network, WB and ABC Family.

[Samurai]

While I agree with you that there is less variety, I think that's ALWAYS been the case. In fact, that's why the cable channels sprung up in the first place, because of the lack of variety on the big networks.

As for reruns and networks re-airing multiple shows over and over again, that came into being because of the magical word "syndication".

[Tapout]

Comedy Central's pretty bad. Every single thing they show gets replayed once before the week is through. Other than that it's MadTV and Reno 911 reruns when they don't have infomercials.

[DarthGonzo]

There used to be alot of good stuff on Fox syndicated between 5-8 and 11-12, now it's just Seinfeld, news and 3 Simpsons repreats.

[Hurricane V1]

Until I checked episode guides I didn't realize how few episodes some shows have, despite being overplayed constantly. Punk'd, Chappelle's Show, more recent Nicktoons, Teen Titans, all friggin' played out so quick.

These channels probably have some decent archives. Does it cost them royalties or something to air their older shows?

[Alex Toon]

Comedy Central's pretty bad. Every single thing they show gets replayed once before the week is through. Other than that it's MadTV and Reno 911 reruns when they don't have infomercials.Yeah, I know. They could at least air Crank Yankers or get back the rights to SNL reruns.

[GL2k2]

{BEGIN RANT} I think the biggest problem with this is licensing. In an idealistic world, premium movie channels would not show the same films over and over and over the **** again for years like they've been doing. Am I the only one who notices that Showtime and Cinemax sometimes have the same exact movie on at once. When they're both owned by different companies. Yeah, something is wrong with that.

I personally think it has to do with both being able to hold the license to air certain movies, either that or they're just sitting on movies that they won't show. When's the last time you guys have seen "Attack of the Killer Tomatoes" or even really popular movies like "Robocop". I think these networks sign contracts with the producers or whatever and both of them in conjunction are ruining our experience. Let's face it, if it's always on t.v., that would ruin the DVD sales, right? Also, where are all the shows in television limbo gone to? Why isn't "Greatest American Hero" on the air once a week like it aired. <<<< I think the cable networks should do this, but again, there's got to be some clause someplace that says otherwise. The sci-fi channel doesn't even have the rights to shows like "I Dream of Jeannie" and "The Addams Family"; TVLand does though. No matter how many networks we get, we will never reach that point where there is something on for all the time for everyone. I say forget television and support DVD's of your favorite movies and shows.{END RANT}

[Caffeine King]

Chappelle's Show isn't rerunned too much. :shrug:

It airs Tuesdays at 10 & 10:30 then those two episodes are reran Saturdays at 9 and 9:30 and again at midnight and 12:30...I wouldn't call that rerunned too much...

I'd say Nickelodeon is the worst it's like The Spongebob Network. (Not that I watch it but I've seen what the schedule is... :sweat: )

[James]

{BEGIN RANT} I think the biggest problem with this is licensing. In an idealistic world, premium movie channels would not show the same films over and over and over the **** again for years like they've been doing. Am I the only one who notices that Showtime and Cinemax sometimes have the same exact movie on at once. When they're both owned by different companies. Yeah, something is wrong with that.

I personally think it has to do with both being able to hold the license to air certain movies, either that or they're just sitting on movies that they won't show. When's the last time you guys have seen "Attack of the Killer Tomatoes" or even really popular movies like "Robocop". I think these networks sign contracts with the producers or whatever and both of them in conjunction are ruining our experience. Let's face it, if it's always on t.v., that would ruin the DVD sales, right? Also, where are all the shows in television limbo gone to? Why isn't "Greatest American Hero" on the air once a week like it aired. <<<< I think the cable networks should do this, but again, there's got to be some clause someplace that says otherwise. The sci-fi channel doesn't even have the rights to shows like "I Dream of Jeannie" and "The Addams Family"; TVLand does though. No matter how many networks we get, we will never reach that point where there is something on for all the time for everyone. I say forget television and support DVD's of your favorite movies and shows.{END RANT}
Interesting point - but watch the language, it just takes one and others let their standards slip also.. :p

Certainly I think we are getting into a system where if you are a fan of a movie or show - you support it's DVD sales. TV is becoming a medium of almost sampling. Take FX's DVD on TV fiasco... Movies which are horrendously cut (as you would expect if you put Predator on in the daytime) which pretty much are their to give you a sample, an idea what's on the disk, and essentially sell the DVD while giving the average bored joe some entertainment.

If you are a fan, you can get the quality you desire on DVD. I think TV is starting to reflect that. Knowing they can't compete for the fan market anymore, they don't bother. Shows are there for the bored guy - so there is less need for attentive schedules - especially on reruns. If it's a re-run, and you like the show, and suddenly it disappears/reappears on a different channel does it matter to the network that much? Nah, average joe will probably just watch whatever you replace it with or if they like the show that much, buy it on DVD... DVD's are the market if you truely like a show.. if you half like a show, you'll probably be able to put up with seeing it occasionally flirt past on different channels - not bothered about the order or which season you are on...

Change in the times..

The show I got sick of which was constantly on and accross the networks was Stargate. It was all that Sci-Fi would promote - aside from the New SciFi Thursday (despite it being running as "new" for three months...) and then SG-1 was other channels as well.. as far as fantasy goes you HAD to like Stargate or turn the TV off..*


* I turned the TV off.

[Vyse]

I believe that the worst offender of the term "overkill" is MTV Networks, Viacom's controller of its cable/satellite operations (except for the premium outlets like Showtime). On MTV, you can see the same Real World episode about 7 times a week before the new one hits airwaves and see the net's awards shows 27 times each before the end of the year. On VH1, you can enjoy multiple airings of "The Faboulous Life," the "I Love the..." series of specials, "All Access," and countless movies before the month is over. Nick airs the same stuff over and over. Spike loves countless airings of syndicated shows and auto programs. Comedy Central went ballistic on MADtv and SNL. Heck, MTVN had to create more networks to air retreads and shows that could not be crammed into the flagship nets. (MTV2, VH1 Classic, Nicktoons TV, Nick GAS, Noggin/The N, etc.) Even two of MTVN's flagship channels, TV Land and CMT, began their lives as sister nets to Nickelodeon's Nick-at-Nite and TNN (aka Spike TV), respectively.

[GL2k2]

Interesting point - but watch the language, it just takes one and others let their standards slip also.. :p

Certainly I think we are getting into a system where if you are a fan of a movie or show - you support it's DVD sales. TV is becoming a medium of almost sampling. Take FX's DVD on TV fiasco... Movies which are horrendously cut (as you would expect if you put Predator on in the daytime) which pretty much are their to give you a sample, an idea what's on the disk, and essentially sell the DVD while giving the average bored joe some entertainment.

If you are a fan, you can get the quality you desire on DVD. I think TV is starting to reflect that. Knowing they can't compete for the fan market anymore, they don't bother. Shows are there for the bored guy - so there is less need for attentive schedules - especially on reruns. If it's a re-run, and you like the show, and suddenly it disappears/reappears on a different channel does it matter to the network that much? Nah, average joe will probably just watch whatever you replace it with or if they like the show that much, buy it on DVD... DVD's are the market if you truely like a show.. if you half like a show, you'll probably be able to put up with seeing it occasionally flirt past on different channels - not bothered about the order or which season you are on...

Change in the times..

The show I got sick of which was constantly on and accross the networks was Stargate. It was all that Sci-Fi would promote - aside from the New SciFi Thursday (despite it being running as "new" for three months...) and then SG-1 was other channels as well.. as far as fantasy goes you HAD to like Stargate or turn the TV off..*


* I turned the TV off.
:sad: Geez, I've been in a rare mood today. This is the second time today I've been reminded of my language (Not on Toonzone), and I didn't even notice I wrote that. Sorry.

[Xfox]

I believe that the worst offender of the term "overkill" is MTV Networks, Viacom's controller of its cable/satellite operations (except for the premium outlets like Showtime). On MTV, you can see the same Real World episode about 7 times a week before the new one hits airwaves and see the net's awards shows 27 times each before the end of the year. On VH1, you can enjoy multiple airings of "The Faboulous Life," the "I Love the..." series of specials, "All Access," and countless movies before the month is over. Nick airs the same stuff over and over. Spike loves countless airings of syndicated shows and auto programs. Comedy Central went ballistic on MADtv and SNL. Heck, MTVN had to create more networks to air retreads and shows that could not be crammed into the flagship nets. (MTV2, VH1 Classic, Nicktoons TV, Nick GAS, Noggin/The N, etc.) Even two of MTVN's flagship channels, TV Land and CMT, began their lives as sister nets to Nickelodeon's Nick-at-Nite and TNN (aka Spike TV), respectively.
If you can't turn on MTV or VH1 and catch music videos at least half the time, something is seriously wrong with the way execs are running those networks. Not all of us are able to get MTV2 or VH1 Classic. So what can someone like me do? Leave the TV off and listen to one of my CDs instead.

[Tapout]

If you can't turn on MTV or VH1 and catch music videos at least half the time, something is seriously wrong with the way execs are running those networks. Not all of us are able to get MTV2 or VH1 Classic. So what can someone like me do? Leave the TV off and listen to one of my CDs instead.The MTV family is so bad though they don't even play videos 24/7 on MTV2 anymore like they were supposed to. I really hope the people who run MTV come down with some form of rare, incurable cancer.

[Caffeine King]

The MTV family is so bad though they don't even play videos 24/7 on MTV2 anymore like they were supposed to. I really hope the people who run MTV come down with some form of rare, incurable cancer.
:evil: lmao!

The only good (current) thing to come outta MTV is True Life. :p

Maybe they'll make an MTV3 so then they can play music videos 24/7 then replace it with reruns of The Osbournes and The Real World! :shrug:

[Antiyonder]

Out of all of the networks I listed, I'd have to say The Disney Channel.

Take Nickelodeon. They at least have Nick Jr, Nicktoons, Teen Nick and Nick At Night. Heck they're even airing their classic shows on U-Pick Live (I know it's only a half hour a day, but it's a start.) for Nick's Anniversary.

The Disney Channel Midnight line up is mostly a repeat of what's on in the evening, except for Boys Meet World, Honey I Shrunk The Kids, The Jersey and Lloyd In Space. Considering that Disney is suppose to be a family network it's more insult to injury. Not to mention there are some shows they should have brought back to their network (if only for a while):

Jungle Cubs/Talespin- Tie in with Jungle Book 2.
Teacher's Pet- Tie in with movie.
Timon And Pumbaa- Tie in with Lion King 1 1/2.
Darkwing Duck- Since superheroes are gaining some more spotlight.