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Prizm
05-28-2001, 12:22 AM
What are the 'censored' cartoons officially called? Or don't they have
a name? Isn't "Censored 11" and "Censored 12" only terms coined by
Goopy Gear? Shouldn't both groups of censored cartoons merge to become
Censored 22?

Prizm

Jack
05-28-2001, 12:48 AM
The Censored 11 list was created in 1968 by United Artists, meant to be a list of undistributed shorts.

The censored 12 was coined at this board, I believe, only to refer to the 12 recently banned June Bugs cartoons, the two lists are two completely different things. Also"All This and Rabbit Stew" appears on both lists.

Most of the censored 12 actually has a good chance of showing up on CN every so often, while the censored 11, has really no chance whatsoever.

You should check out "Jon Cooke's censored Cartoons Page":
http://www.toonzone.net/looney/ltcuts/ltcuts11.html

Also, so many cartoons are "banned" that an official list really cannot be made, it is easier (at least in my opinion) to categorize the shorts into small groupings. When someone says "The Censored 11," I know exactly what cartoons they happen to be referring to, ditto with the "Censored 12" and with others, like the Mammy cartoons, Inki cartoons, ect.

Jack:D

Matthew Hunter
05-28-2001, 01:30 PM
He's right. "Censored 11" is a group of 11 WB cartoons that were considered too "racist" for TV. All of them feature black steroetypes. The few that I have seen are not incredibly bad, but others are. For example, "Hittin' the Trail To Hallelujia Land" is fairly harmless, but it's set in the deep south and one of the characters is a black servant named "Uncle Tom", which could easily be taken the wrong way. "Coal Black" is more raunchy than racist, and "Clean Pastures" is probably the least deserving of being added to the list...it's just a collection of caricatures of that day's black entertainers. No different from "Have you Got Any Castles" or 'Porky at the Crocadero", really. however, others really do deserve the TV yanking..."Angel Puss" has a black boy singing "Mammy's little baby likes shortnin' bread" while going to drown a cat in the South.
"The Censored 12" was a term that surfaced here when speaking of the recent 'June Bugs" controversy, and all feature Bugs Bunny.
We forget, though, that if blacks, blackface jokes, indians, eskimos, black natives, or war jokes are considered wrong by cN's standards, what other stuff is considered an absolute no-no, and they are kind of hypocritical in that respect. Sometimes they show Speedy Gonzales, or Count Screwloose uncut, or "A Feather in his Hare' late a night, other times they all but ban every one of those sorts of things. But it's a good bet that the banned Bugs toons will stay that way unttil they change hands again, and that may not be for quite a while...look how long ABC, Nick, or TNT had their packages, for example.
-Matthew