What will happen to the redrawn Popeyes?

[Argus Sventon]

With the restored Popeyes making their debut, will we see an end to the redrawn Popeyes showing up on Acme Hour, as well as an end to unrestored B&W Popeyes showing on LNB&W?

[lislebartman]

God, I hope so! I cannot stomach those redrawn prints! I hope I never see one again!

[J Lee]

Odds are the "kids won't watch black and whte" mentality will still remain on the Acme Hour, and the redrawns will continue to make up the lion's share of the Fleischer/early Famous Popeyes shown there.

[Patrick McCart]

I think the redrawn Popeyes will slowly make their exit.

Think about it...WB probably paid more to have the Popeyes RESTORED than REDRAWN. Also, CN has replaced some awful prints with wonderful prints...and the awful ones never came back. A-Scent The Matterhorn is an example.

Will I miss them? No. I want to see that Fleischer animation!

[Dub]

I hope they burn and rot in the nearest landfill. More often than not, thier painful to watch. Always have been :P



**sigh** Of all the times for my television set to have exploded....

[Jack]

Originally posted by Jon "WB" Gray
**sigh** Of all the times for my television set to have exploded....
How did it explode?

I don't know, CN isn't predictable enough for me to say. I think they will at least replace the LNB&W prints if they are smart. But I feel the redrawns will be used for daytime showings.


Jack:D

[Dub]

It didnt necessarily explode as in BOOM soot on the walls explode :D


But my picture tube howver DID explode. I dunno how it did it. One morning I was watching a Goofy Gophers Lumber jerks short on CN and all of a sudden the TV made a loud screeching noise, went black, and made this annoying VERY HIGH PICTHCED barely audible noise. It wont work anymore.

So I have to get a new one, but since I'm in college (READ: BROKE) I cant afford one for another month or so. And the one at my house is way too small and is in Birmingham AL whereas I'm in Savannah GA.

I could just ask my mom to loan me the money to get a new TV set, but I'd rather not. Dont wanna bother her for money and stuff. I'd rather earn it on my own. :)





I just got so off topic... ^_______^

[Jimmy Kustes]

I'm not a classic cartoon buff but could you give me a classic cartoons for dummies course where you define words like redrawn and restored?

Jon Gray, do you go to SCAD? I was thinking about making a thread about art colleges that posters are in, or are going to, or are interested in. Should I put that thread in the Drawing Board?

[Jack]

Originally posted by duncanzits
I'm not a classic cartoon buff but could you give me a classic cartoons for dummies course where you define words like redrawn and restored?
Redrawn: Sent over to Korea and refilmed in color. New backgrounds and new cels (traced from a B&W print) are made and filmed. Often the people doing the redrawing didn't know English, so they misspelled things, and since they live on the other side of the world, they don't know much about our culture. Thus you have yellow ghosts and a brown Daffy Duck. It's like a new cartoon with the same soundtrack, only not as good. Also, to save money, not every frame was redrawn. The animation doesn't flow like it did in the original.

Restored cartoons are put back into the state they were originally filmed in (or as close to it as possible). The cartoons looks just as it did when audiences saw them for the first time. It's clear, with original titles.


Jack:D

[Argus Sventon]

Originally posted by duncanzits
I'm not a classic cartoon buff but could you give me a classic cartoons for dummies course where you define words like redrawn and restored?


Okay, be glad to.

Theatrical cartoons often were reissued for theatrical use. The cartoon producers did new title cards for reissue.

Then in the 1950s, a new medium came into being. Television! The movie studios were embarrassed to have their product on television with their name on it. Therefore, we have the AAP logo appearing at the start of some WB cartoons. Note, WB let AAP keep the WB logo on cartoons.

Also in the 1950s, came a new color process, Eastmancolor. Of course, Eastmancolor fades to red eventually, if not properly handled. By this time, the television distributors were going broke.

In the 1970s and 1980s, the B&W Looney Tunes, the Betty Boops, and Popeye cartoons were redrawn in color to satisfy the audiences of the time. However, in the redrawing process, the Popeye cartoons lost their 3-D backgrounds. This is what we mean by redrawn.

What you will see this Sunday night/Monday morning, will be the theatrical Popeye cartoons, in original black and white, with the original Paramount logos put back on. In other words, you will see Popeye the way Max Fleischer wanted you to.

[Matthew Hunter]

The first time I ever saw Popeye in black and white was a couple of years ago on Late Night Black and White, but before then I had always thought of them as being color. Then I read about it and found otherwise, and when I finally saw a b/w print, I thought "wow", that's better. Then I noticed the redrawns more...they look compared to awful the originals, and I feel sorry for those who are like I was and thought they were supposed to be that way. The restored versions are a great idea.
-Matthew

[Joe Tully]

Even if they do replace the old redrawns with the restored B&Ws, they will have to let the B&Ws run on I'm Popeye first. It will take a long time for the redrawns to be replaced.

Personally, I think that they will leave the redrawns in. If they left them in so far, they will probably continue to leave them in. I wish they would at least use B&W for the extremely late night Popeye show instead of redrawns.