Bad News Detective Conan fans, Funi is up to their old tricks again

[Deadly Messiah]

FUNimation has announced the release date for its first Detective Conan (which it is releasing as Case Closed in the U.S.) SKUs -- August 24th. Three SKUs will be released on that date. Volume One will include episodes #1-#4, and Volume Two will include episodes #53-#55, both at $19.98. The Starter Set will include both volumes and a collector's box.

Looks like they are going to start skipping episodes again to screw over fans. Is there something seriously wrong with them? Not to mention they are putting 3 episodes on a disc (not including Vol1) for a 300+ current tv series. WTF are they thinking? Funi is truly the worst company ever, and the money hungry.

[Beat]

Jeez.:rolleyes:

Well, at least I'm sure Detective Conan will bomb on AS.

[Brent Long]

Wait a second this doesn't necessarily mean what you think it means. Perhaps due to the length of the series they're releasing the first 52 episodes and the second 52 episodes simultaneously with they're own starter boxes.

[Lord Dalek]

Detective Boy Conan is VERY episodic. This isn't as big a problem think, DM.

[Andrew T. Hingson]

Oh come now. It's obvious why they are doing this. They've done it with DBZ for years...

The first 52 episodes will be on Adult Swim so they wont try to get most of that on DVD. Instead they will get some of it on DVD (or all of it, but slowly) while focusing on the next 52 or so.

It'll be heck for people trying to follow the show without Adult Swim... but to those who do watch it on AS it should work out "alright".

Or maybe they will just release both seasons at the same time.

[jeffrey 228]

Well i just hope they are able to get the episodes below 52 by the time Adult Swim is finished with them, because it seems that they are having some issues regarding the DBZ thing, too many episodes at once and they are skipping to get ahead for those who may have seen the Japanses version, of coruse that is a long shot and stuff.

[William C. Maune]

As Hyper Luigi noted this is only the episodes for the initial DVD release and says nothing of how episodes will air on Adult Swim.

As for the episode count, we don't know if it will be 3 per disc. Right now one disc has four episodes and the other has three. We'll need more information before we know how the majority of discs will be released.

[Jude Santos]

The japanese release was kinda weird as well. (like this guy says (http://forums.animeondvd.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Number=447412&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&vc=1)) This is becuase some episodes take a break and resume the particular arc many episodes later (or something like that). It could be possible that this is the reason for that. Of course I haven't seen DC (or CC), so I'll leave that to the people that do. Also, this doesn't neccesarily mean that they are skipping episodes 5-53, it could be possible that the next volume will contain episodes 5-9 or someting. Unless Funimation says something, I won't assume anything.

As for the release, it's just like YYH. 4 or 3 episodes per disc. If I were anyone else here, I'd wait for Funi to release boxsets (which is super cheap).

[Andy Mancini]

Jeez.:rolleyes:

Well, at least I'm sure Detective Conan will bomb on AS.
You should learn how to bottle your baseless arrogance and sell it to the meek. You'd make billions.

[Jude Santos]

According to ANN (go there yourself lol), Case Closed will be aired in order when it premieres on AS. That, and the reason for the out of order releases is to give fans a look at episodes that have not aired on TV.

[Kaiser0120]

You should learn how to bottle your baseless arrogance and sell it to the meek. You'd make billions.
Best ****ing response EVER.

[Chad Bonin]

Um... WHERE was this announced? I definitely didn't get an announcement from FUNi about it...

[Yash]

...SKUs?

Wait, what's with this episode skipping nonsense?

And besides that... 3 episodes per DVD is practically standard. What were you expecting, royal Fruits Basket treatment? They changed the name for god's sake.

[Jude Santos]

I must say, I am dissapointed with Funimation. I am a pro-Funi person and have defended them in any way possible, but this is just stupid. I just hope that they actually release episode 5+ startting on ep 3...

Now, of course I can't help but defend Funimation on this as well...I can't defend Funi for releasing the series out of order, but when it all comes down to it, the whole thing is going to be released anyway. I'm just not buying as it comes out becuase I'm pretty sure that Funi will release boxsets. As for the episode count, (for vol. 1 and 2) 4 eps and 3 eps add up to 7 (duh), and with the price of the two volumes together, it adds up to $40. So, 7 episodes for $40, SAME AS FRUITS BASKET.

[Pepperidge]

I really do think that a lot of the problems with this release are the fault of the Japanese licensor. The name changes and episode counts specifically. Apparently they are being forced to use that new logo. FUNimation is probably bending right over in this deal.

While I never had any intention of picking this series up, I hope for the sake of the fans that FUNi at least provides reversable covers featuring the original logo.

[Deadly Messiah]

According to ANN (go there yourself lol), Case Closed will be aired in order when it premieres on AS. That, and the reason for the out of order releases is to give fans a look at episodes that have not aired on TV.
Just like how DBGT was going to air in order, but didn't.

I'm sorry, but Funi is really dumb when it comes to releasing long series. Fine, if they want to release 26 ep series with 3 eps a disc, let them, but if it is a long (and this is a looooooooong series) series, that is just plain rediculous. I mean 80+ vols is the reason I refuse to even touch DBZ. I'd be better off just buying the bootlegs of the remastered R2 rips just so I don't have to support Funi. You would think they would have done what they are doing with Ultraman Tiga, or even Fruits Basket. After hearing this, my girlfriend is very worried to how Kodocha is going to be treated.

[Killtacular]

Adult Swim is showing #1-52, FUNi is selling #53-104. What's to complain about?

They're not airing and being released on the same day. Case Closed starts May 24th, and will reach episode 52 slightly before or on August 19th. A week before #53-55 is released on DVD. Makes sense, DON'T IT.

[Pepperidge]

Astonishingly, Matt Wilson has given the most rational view on this situation. Also, I don't think FUNimation is stupid enough to actual market episodes 53-55 as "volume 2". I just hope they can kick up the episode counts.

Also, Kodocha is being marketed towards a completely different audience. It won't be screwed over. Trust me.

[Karl Olson]

Astonishingly, Matt Wilson has given the most rational view on this situation. Also, I don't think FUNimation is stupid enough to actual market episodes 53-55 as "volume 2". I just hope they can kick up the episode counts.

Also, Kodocha is being marketed towards a completely different audience. It won't be screwed over. Trust me.

Bingo.

Kodocha is another prestige title. The TV version might get cut up a bit, but you can bet the DVDs are gonna be nice (funi better atleast match the japanese 4-5 per disc episode counts though.)

[lostrune]

Yes, Detective Conan is quite episodic (or even "arc-ish" with small case arcs). Once you have the background in the initial episodes, you can pretty much wing it in any story arc. The series didn't last (actually, still ongoing) 300+ eps by moving the essential plot development too fast! :D

What I'm actually waiting to see is those little omake at the end of episodes. I'm sure fans of Adult Swim would like those! :D

[Deadly Messiah]

Adult Swim is showing #1-52, FUNi is selling #53-104. What's to complain about?

They're not airing and being released on the same day. Case Closed starts May 24th, and will reach episode 52 slightly before or on August 19th. A week before #53-55 is released on DVD. Makes sense, DON'T IT.
You can rationalize all you want, the fact remains that Funi is screwing people over again. Hell, all of DBZ should've been on DVD uncut and subbed a year ago, yet we are still waiting for the best saga to be fully released (Cell Games). As from Ultraman Tiga, I have been boycotting Funi products. The last DVD (before Tiga V1) I bought from them was the Bardok special, and that was during its release month.

And you know what, I bet if they knew how popular FB would've been, they would've made it an 8 disc format.

[Rouge12]

Yep, Funi says that they want to give people a look at future episodes.
ANN (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/article.php?id=4883)

[Killtacular]

You can rationalize all you want, the fact remains that Funi is screwing people over again. Hell, all of DBZ should've been on DVD uncut and subbed a year ago, yet we are still waiting for the best saga to be fully released (Cell Games). As from Ultraman Tiga, I have been boycotting Funi products. The last DVD (before Tiga V1) I bought from them was the Bardok special, and that was during its release month.
All I'm hearing is a disillusioned DBZ fan who doesn't credit FUNi for anything else they've released.

[Andrew T. Hingson]

I'm mad about the wait for the Cell Games saga as well, but they aired on TV years ago and isn't it better to occasionally put out something new to watch instead of just what has aired? They've only done it with the Dragonball franchise and Conan thus far... YYH hasn't had that issue.

[Karl Olson]

All I'm hearing is a disillusioned DBZ fan who doesn't credit FUNi for anything else they've released.

Bingo. (Matt deserves a trophy filled with steakums... or Flash MX.)

Fruits Basket is an excellent release (perhaps one of the best for any anime.)
Blue Gender is a very good release.
Tenchi GXP is also a very good release.
Kiddy Grade is also very good release.
Yu Yu Hakusho is very solid release.

Perhaps most importantly, they seized the day where every other anime distributor in America had completely and totally given up, and figured how to license Kodocha, a title that had been sought after by US fans for nearly a decade.

So, they are releasing episodes that occur right the end of CN's set right after CN finishes it's intial run. Sounds like a service to the fans to me, and excellent business sense too.

[saladdays]

Yep. It almost seems this thread was created to bash Funi more than anything......

[Chad Bonin]

Fruits Basket is an excellent release (perhaps one of the best for any anime.)
Blue Gender is a very good release.
Tenchi GXP is also a very good release.
Kiddy Grade is also very good release.
Yu Yu Hakusho is very solid release.
Don't forget Dragonball; it's ONLY being released in uncut, dual-language two-disc Saga Sets, I believe.

[Deadly Messiah]

All I'm hearing is a disillusioned DBZ fan who doesn't credit FUNi for anything else they've released.
Actually the only saga I want on DVD is Cell Games, I can care less about everything else.

ANyway, it isn't just DBZ. The only 2 DVDs they have done right was Tiga and FB. YYH is 112 eps, but there are only 3 eps a DVD out for it, making it rediculous to get! Then you go the 8 vol format for Kiddy Grade and GXP. I'm sorry, but 8 volumes is done. We are in a 6 disc era, and it still pisses me off that Bandai is following ADV and putting GitS on 7 discs instead of 6. At least they are doing .hack//Legend of the Twlight Bracelet right with 3 volumes. Maybe Funi should at least follow ADV and cut down on a volume. OH, and how about cutting down their prices? A series as long as DBZ and DC should not be more than $15 for a measly 3 episodes. That's it, $5 an episode, and that should be no more.

[Karl Olson]

Actually the only saga I want on DVD is Cell Games, I can care less about everything else.

ANyway, it isn't just DBZ. The only 2 DVDs they have done right was Tiga and FB. YYH is 112 eps, but there are only 3 eps a DVD out for it, making it rediculous to get! Then you go the 8 vol format for Kiddy Grade and GXP. I'm sorry, but 8 volumes is done. We are in a 6 disc era, and it still pisses me off that Bandai is following ADV and putting GitS on 7 discs instead of 6. At least they are doing .hack//Legend of the Twlight Bracelet right with 3 volumes. Maybe Funi should at least follow ADV and cut down on a volume. OH, and how about cutting down their prices? A series as long as DBZ and DC should not be more than $15 for a measly 3 episodes. That's it, $5 an episode, and that should be no more.

And you can walk into any walmart or target or kmart in the US, and get funi's 3 episode per dvds at 14.99 a piece or less. Best Buy and Circut City are the same way usually. If you don't want to go to a real world store, plenty of online retailers will cut an equivelent if not better deal. Why? Because virtually noone goes with list price these days. If you're patient, you can wait for the boxset and get the discs down to 6-8 bucks a volume. Therefore, the only truth that your arguement holds, is that it's a shelf space issue.

[Will Sturnick]

YYH is 112 eps, but there are only 3 eps a DVD out for it, making it rediculous to get!
Actually, YYH has always been between 3 and 4 episodes and w/ Chapter Black it's been straight 4, and presume it'll stay that way until the end.

[Deadly Messiah]

And you can walk into any walmart or target or kmart in the US, and get funi's 3 episode per dvds at 14.99 a piece or less. Best Buy and Circut City are the same way usually. If you don't want to go to a real world store, plenty of online retailers will cut an equivelent if not better deal. Why? Because virtually noone goes with list price these days. If you're patient, you can wait for the boxset and get the discs down to 6-8 bucks a volume. Therefore, the only truth that your arguement holds, is that it's a shelf space issue.Yes, if I want those edited pieces of ****. Seriously, I was going to do that, but Target and K-Fart only sell the edited dubbed versions. Why the hell would I want one of those?

And yes, shelf space is important. Infact, a series that is over 300 should not have anything less than 5 eps on a DVD.

[Shredder]

I don't know why everyone's always so defensive of Funimation-they're hardly the best company out there. Also, YYH's releases aren't the best example, at least in terms of the DT box set- the DVDs are out, what's taking so long?

[Chad Bonin]

I don't know why everyone's always so defensive of Funimation-they're hardly the best company out there. Many people's perception of FUNimation comes from Season 3 Dragonball Z- one of their first jobs. FUNimation of 2004 ain't the same as FUNimation of 1999. Fruits Basket, Dragonball, these are highlights of FUNimation.


Yes, if I want those edited pieces of ****. Seriously, I was going to do that, but Target and K-Fart only sell the edited dubbed versions. Why the hell would I want one of those?... you must live in a crappy area. I've seen uncut discs at Wal-Mart of all places.

[Pepperidge]

In case anyone was wondering, the R2 Detective Conan DVDs have three or four episodes each.

[bigddan11]

Funimation alway slikes to make releases of episodes that haven't been shown yet. they're doing it with Fruits Basket, Dragonball GT, Tenchi Muyo GXP, and Kiddy Grade. Previously they did it with DBZ and Blue Gender. This is no different than usual. As for using Ultraman Tiga and DB DVD's as example, 4Kids decided the format for Ultraman Tiga, and Dragonball wasn't done that way (which is considered Box Sets by Funimation) until they got to the King Piccolo saga. They're doing the same format most other DVD companies do (3 to 4 episodes a DVD, and sometimes 5), so I'm not going to complain. I think it's a great idea because they can gain more money by releasing the future episodes after people have recorded all the previous ones on AS. They'll probably release the official V. 2 and 2 Pt. 2 after that within the next 2 months max, and continue on that way until they have caught the full series up to date on DVD releases. then they can go straight to 2 new releases each month until they finish the series.

[Youko Recca]

If you're so ticked just purchase a bootleg or two...boy is THAT quality ;) .YYH's Sensui saga is being released four episodes on each DVD...pretty good right there, I have no clue on Makai but I expect the same good treatment there also.

[Chad Bonin]

Look at Dragonball. Anywhere from ten to seventeen episodes per 2 disc special uncut edition box set.

Look at Fruits Basket. Six or seven episodes per disc.

Look at Tenchi Muyo GXP. Volume one has five.

[Nobuyuki sama]

Look at Tenchi Muyo GXP. Volume one has five.Which is irrelevant to your position, since the other 7 discs will have three.

[Karl Olson]

Yes, if I want those edited pieces of ****. Seriously, I was going to do that, but Target and K-Fart only sell the edited dubbed versions. Why the hell would I want one of those?

K-Fart. How witty. But not. (I'm becoming Matt Wilson, I can feel it. ;))

Anyway, last Target I was in was only carrying the uncut stuff. The last Walmart I was in had the edited Hakusho, but had the totally uncut DBZ. It also had Kenshin, Galaxy Angel and Vampire Hunter D. Best Buy, Fry's and Circut City have about the same prices as Target and other similar chains usually, and are also all up on the uncut versions, and the internet usually does an even better job of bringing the savings home.

And you can still be patient and wait for the inevitable boxset for even more savings action.

And if you're so up on shelf space, buy some slimcases.

[Duke]

In all honesty, the only places I've seen the uncut versions are at Suncoast and fye. And they usually charge $30 a DVD unless there's a sale or something.

[Deadly Messiah]

K-Fart. How witty. But not. (I'm becoming Matt Wilson, I can feel it. ;))

Anyway, last Target I was in was only carrying the uncut stuff. The last Walmart I was in had the edited Hakusho, but had the totally uncut DBZ. It also had Kenshin, Galaxy Angel and Vampire Hunter D. Best Buy, Fry's and Circut City have about the same prices as Target and other similar chains usually, and are also all up on the uncut versions, and the internet usually does an even better job of bringing the savings home.

And you can still be patient and wait for the inevitable boxset for even more savings action.

And if you're so up on shelf space, buy some slimcases.
What is Fry's?

[Duke]

What is Fry's?
It's an electronic shop. You'd know if you read Real Life (http://www.reallifecomics.com). I've never been there, but apparently they have good deals on stuff...

[Chad Bonin]

In all honesty, the only places I've seen the uncut versions are at Suncoast and fye. And they usually charge $30 a DVD unless there's a sale or something.One more reason why Georgia kicks your state's butt.


What is Fry's? I've always heard about it, but never seen one. Must be a regional thing.

[Duke]

One more reason why Georgia kicks your state's butt.
Though our Suncoasts have been dropping prices for certain DVDs, which is good.

I'll bet you don't even have a Sonic.


I've always heard about it, but never seen one. Must be a regional thing.
I believe it's West Coast-only, like Jack-in-the-Box.

[Chad Bonin]

I'll bet you don't even have a Sonic.The fast-food place? There's one 'bout 10-15 minutes from my house.


I believe it's West Coast-only, like Jack-in-the-Box.Jack's exist in Texas.

[William C. Maune]

1) We have Jack-in-the-Box in Missouri.

2) There are about 4 Sonic's within 10-15 minutes of my apartment.

3) We have an awesome Suncoast. Biggest selection anime, manga and etc. I've seen anywhere in brick and mortar store. It's actually cheaper for me to buy stuff there a lot of times. The folks who run that Suncoast really like anime. It does really well too. They got in 8 Kilalas (sp?) and sold out in 24 hours.

[Duke]

1) We have Jack-in-the-Box in Missouri.
Eh, Missouri's not on the East Coast, so I'm kinda sorta right.


2) There are about 4 Sonic's within 10-15 minutes of my apartment.
I hate you. I see commercials for it all the time and have never seen one in either PA or MD.


3) We have an awesome Suncoast. Biggest selection anime, manga and etc. I've seen anywhere in brick and mortar store. It's actually cheaper for me to buy stuff there a lot of times. The folks who run that Suncoast really like anime. It does really well too. They got in 8 Kilalas (sp?) and sold out in 24 hours.
I really hate you.

[William C. Maune]

I really hate you.

Did I mention I got the FLCL box there after it aired on Adult Swim? And that they have Zoids:CC as a featured selection?

[JShaggy]

I believe it's West Coast-only, like Jack-in-the-Box.Jack-in-the-Box is in Tennessee as well, but only in Nashville.

Apparently, the only place where I could find anything anime would be from Wal-Mart (and Tower if I'm fortunate). Sam Goody had good anime titles as well; it's just too bad that many of their stores closed up.

[Duke]

Did I mention I got the FLCL box there after it aired on Adult Swim? And that they have Zoids:CC as a featured selection?
Zoids: CC is a featured item here too (that's why it's $3 cheaper than normal), but I've never seen the FLCL box in any store, just online.

[Karl Olson]

While we're bragging, I should mention I can walk into any Borders in the Pacific NW and find a great selection of manga, and that goes for most bookstores, and even many department stores book department. Further still, we've got atleast half dozen stores specializing in anime and related incindia.

Anyway, back on track, if you don't like the brick n' mortor price or type, hit the net and save.

[Chad Bonin]

While we're bragging, I should mention I can walk into any Borders in the Pacific NW and find a great selection of manga, and that goes for most bookstores, and even many department stores book department. Further still, we've got atleast half dozen stores specializing in anime and related incindia.

Anyway, back on track, if you don't like the brick n' mortor price or type, hit the net and save.I work at a comic shop. That has a manga section. And can order most likely any GN available.

[Artimus Gigan]

Also I'd like to also brag


There's a two Best Buys that are a short drive from where I live, one is next to a mall(which houses a Sam Goddy, Suncoast, Boarders, and other stores) and one is next to a Toys r us...also there is a B&N that is very close to the mall

And very rarely do the Best Buys ever have anime DVDs over 30 bucks....they also both have a massive selection, and the one by TRU has a massive atleast 65 ft long of 6 rack shelves that contain anime...

I recent got the Robotech Remasted Edition W/ Valkyrie figure for 20 bucks...

I win gentlemen, I win...

[Chad Bonin]

I win gentlemen, I win... ... nah, I won't play my trump card.

[Artimus Gigan]

... nah, I won't play my trump card.Yer bluffing...

I can see it in your face

[Karl Olson]

Yer bluffing...

I can see it in your face

No, he's not.

However, next time Knux whines about not having any luck, I'm gonna fly to Georgia and smack him, because that boy has luck now. ;)

[Mike JD Silva]

... nah, I won't play my trump card.Places to buy manga and anime.... boy, Southern California rules all:

Little Tokyo - Kinukuniya and Yaohan plaza
Fry's(Knux, this http://www.frys.com/localframe.html has all thier locations, pretty much West Coast and Texas).
Best Buys
Suncoast, Target, Walmart, Waldenbooks, Borders, Barnes and Nobles also...

but most importantly -

DVD Planet

This place totally dedicated to dvds and discount prices out in Westminster. Has 6 small ailes dedicated to anime alone, boxsets included, all at discount price(saw some YYH discs for 'bout $18 last time I was there, got my Vandread box and dvd there for $29, and still had some limited Onegai Teacher boxes which I still need to pick up, if they haven't sold out already....). There are still some stores that have better prices for certain titles, but this store has practically everything ever released in stock.

[Youko Recca]

I used to love Fry's Electronics....

[Duke]

So, how about that FUNi "Screwup" for Detective Conan? What a horrible story!

[Youko Recca]

Yeah I thought I ended the OT with that.The KI on this thread is being drained...fast.