Cartoon Ironies

[Duke Psychology]

what are your favorite cartoon ironies?

mine is this: Kevin, from Ed Edd 'n' Eddy is the most macho guy on the show. however he is the only boy on the show that's voiced by a woman.:) it's true! even Jimmy's voice is done by a guy.

[Artemis]

Freakazoid was originally supposed to be a serious cartoon, but ended up as one of the funniest cartoons of all time.

Gargoyles was originally supposed to be a comedy cartoon, but ended up as one of the most dramatic US cartoons of all time.

[Rover_Wow]

Both of these related to Hey Arnold!
* One of Phoebe's most siginificant roles is in the ep titled "Phoebe Takes The Fall", and yet Anndi McAfee is curiously absent from the credits of that ep.
* Stinky's favorite phrase is "This really bites", and yet in the eps (Stinky Goes Hollywood, Stinky's Pumpkin) that are directly about him, he doesn't say it.

And in a situation similar to Kevin from Ed Edd and Eddy, Nick Dean considers himself the cool kid of Retroville, but besides the main character, he's the only boy voiced by a girl on Jimmy Neutron. And by a Dexter vet I might add (Candi Milo).

And on Rugrats, Harold was supposed to have been introduced in "Pre School Daze" (which may or may not have only aired this past week), but he features in at least two "subsequent" Rugrats eps, and a few eps of the spinoff All Grown Up!, all of which aired before "Pre School Daze".

[J. B. Warner]

"Futurama" was created by Matt Groening, a man well-respected for his satirical humor and famous for creating "The Simpsons", but it still wound up cancelled.

Once Warner Bros. stopped producing theatrical cartoons, the shorts became more popular than ever before.

[Juu-kuchi]

Like Star Trek, Mobile Suit Gundam started out poorly in it's initial run. However during re-runs and it's movies (like Trek as well), it gathered a following.

[Vyse]

-All of the Rugrats (even when they "grew up") are all voiced by females

-The voices for Cosmo and Wanda on The Fairly OddParents are also the voices of Mr. and Mrs. Turner on the same show.

-Seth MacFarlane's career did not take off until he worked on Johnny Bravo on the Cartoon Network. His career was revived thanks to the Cartoon Network due to the strong ratings of his non-CN project, Family Guy, on the net.

-Gundam Wing, the most criticized Gundam project in Japan (due to the pretty-boy pilots), is the most respected and sucessful Gundam project in America.

[Marvel_Knight]

Bart Simpson is voiced by Nancy Cartwright. The Simpsons used to be excellent and hilarious, now it's... I don't know. Mark Hamill played one of the greatest heroes in film history, but he voices the most evil villian Batman has faced. Boba Fett was the most feared bounty hunter in the universe, but he appeared in the worst Star Wars thing like even worse than TPM! The Star Wars Holiday special (I believe BF appeared in that and that it's a cartoon). Spidey is the most popular super-hero (behind Bats and Supes of course) but a lot of his cartoons were short lived.

[Fone Bone]

John Kricfalusi created the original Ren and Stimpy AND Adult Party Cartoon.

The Games episodes were a hundred times better than APC.

John K. considers himself a gifted cartoonist.

[Conan-san]

Orgionaly, Sailor Moon (The anime) was only going to last the one series.

It is now a 6 series anime AND has a Live action show.

[Peter Paltridge]

The Pinky and the Brain episode "Brinky," which involved Brain making a clone of himself, aired only a couple days after Dolly the Sheep was first announced. And the process Brain used to make the clone was very similar to what the real-life cloners did!

[Rover_Wow]

"MLAATR" gad the most noms for any TV show in this year's Annies... but wasn't nommed in the Best TV Production categories.
"Hey Arnold!: The Movie" featured a pastiche of Men in Black... whose sequel came out within weeks of the film.

[Antiyonder]

Ian Corlett voiced Mega Man's enemy Dr. Wily on Captain N And The Video Game Masters and later voiced Mega Man on The Mega Man cartoon.

On the Static Shock episode Fallen Hero, Phil Lamar talk to himself for a good majority of the episode. He voiced Static, Green Lantern and Sinestro posing a The Green Lantern.

Superman The Animated Series was canceled because the WB execs wanted to focus on more Batman Beyond (which was also brought to an end).

Spider-Man And His Amazing Friends had Spidey joined by Iceman and Firestar to make the show kid friendly and still was enjoyed by teens/adults who watched.

Adam West is known for playing the campy/humorous Batman, yet on The Super Powers Team Episode, The Fear Adam West did a fine job voicing a more serious Batman.

Classic Cartoons (Such as Looney Tunes) are censored for sterotyping, yet family sitcoms are allowed to sterotype every minute of each episode.


Gargoyles Ironies from Ask Greg
Future Tense:
Also I think we can let the more sophisticated members of our audience see the irony that Demona is finally good again only to be lost to Goliath forever. We don't have to state that in dialogue.

Vows:
I love all the irony in the dialogue between Petros and David. David knows what he's planning. He must be smiling when Petros says "I'd like to get my hands on the man who gave you that coin." And when David says, "Someday, I'll prove to you that I'm a self-made man," he must really be patting himself on the back.

Awakening Part 5:
Anyway, that whole conversation is just full of delicious irony -- all working against Demona. Goliath says, "I cannot make war on an entire world," completely unaware that that's exactly what Demona wants to do. He says, "Doesn't Xanatos prove that some humans can be trusted?" But of course, Demona knows that Xanatos absolutely cannot be trusted. Every statement Goliath makes pushes Demona toward further extremism. And he isn't even trying. Finally, after Demona reminds him of the Wyvern betrayal and Massacre, he says that the ones responsible for that "have been dead for 1000 years." Now putting aside that the Captain and Hakon aren't quite as dead-dead as Goliath thinks, this has got to push Demona over the edge. Deep down she knows her own responsibility. Again Goliath is wrong, because the traitor is standing right in front of him. My hats off to Michael Reaves. What a great scene! "So be it." she says. Goliath won't know it until VOWS. But they are DONE. Right there.

Pokemon
As shown in "Snow Way Out" Jesse likes snow. The irony being that her mom was killed in an avalanche.

[Eddie G.]

The theme song to Family Guy is sort of ironic, especially in relation to the actual show.

[Juu-kuchi]

-Digimon was originally going to end after the Devimon arc, but instead it continued.
-Aqua Teen Hunger Force was supposed to air on Toonami.
-Excel Saga was deemed 'impossible' to dub, buf for some reason ADV pulled it off in spades, and now it's one of the best comedy dubs which stays true to the original version (in my humble opinion of course).
-Vash the Stampede was voiced by the guy who played the second Black Ranger in Power Rangers.

I'll think of more. Hopefully they will not be mostly anime.

[Duke]

The Powerpuff Girls were originally called the "Whoop-Ass" Girls.

Before Advanced Generation started, Brock only had 5 Pokemon.

Both Brock and James in Pokemon are voiced by the same person. Same for Misty and Jessie & Jenny and Joy.

Even more surprising, Ash, Ash's Mother, and May are all voiced by the same person.

FUNimation hired Tony Oliver to voice Seina on Tenchi Muyo! GXP. Oliver is known best for playing Lupin III in Pioneer's dubs...

Sonny Strait, who voices adult Krillin, was the first TOM.

The person who plays TOM2/3 also plays a Negotiator, a bounty hunter, a Legendary Digimon Warrior, a government agent, and an evil warlord just to name a few.

Steven Blum and Wendee Lee often act in shows where the two characters are in love/have a deep relationship with each other.

The person who plays Lex Luthor in the Dini/Timm DC Universe also plays Captain Black, a government agent, on Jackie Chan Adventures.

The woman who plays Dexter: Boy Genius on Dexter's Laboratory also plays Astro: the most powerful robot ever on Astro Boy.

The Big O 2 was Toonami Japan's first anime.

The first 5.1 DVD Commentary belongs to Puni Puni Poemy.

The Powerpuff Girls won the Space Ghost Coast to Coast "World Premiere Toon-In."

The Batman animated movies have gotten less advertising than the live-action ones, but have been hailed as being much better.

[candy17]

John Kricfalusi created the original Ren and Stimpy AND Adult Party Cartoon.The irony of this would be that if John K.'s original Ren and Stimpy were on a channel like MTV (and it was, IIRC), and was successful there, there'd be no need for the APC.

The other two are kinda debatable, depending on what you think of John K. I don't think John K. is up there with Chuck Jones or Disney, but at least the guy knows that cartoons aren't for kids and he's against the classics being censored for BS&P reasons. With that, I salute the man.

Some other ironies in animation include:

-In one episode of the Simpsons (the one where they join a cult), Bart says "Church, cult, cult, church. Either way, we'll be bored on Sundays". What's ironic is that the voice of Bart (Nancy Cartwright) is a member of the Church of Scientology, who doesn't believe in that. Same thing goes for the episode where Bart takes Focusyn and it drives him crazy (scientologists don't believe in behavior-modifying drugs)

-Samurai Jack is voiced by a black man (Phil LaMarr, who was Hermes Conrad on Futurama and was on the first couple seasons of MadTV)

-The voice of Homer Simpson (Dan Castellaneta) is actually a vegetarian.

[Juu-kuchi]

-Shaggy actually became a vegetarian because Casey Kasem became one as well. Mr. Kasem even left voicing Shaggy if he was not a vegetarian in later Scooby Doo movies (hence Billy West and Scott Innes as Shaggy's voice for a while).
-Mitsuishi Kotono was able to voice Excel through all 26 episodes. However because of Excel, Jessica Calvello damaged her vocal chords and after episode 13 of Excel Saga, Larissa Wolcott did her.
-Star Wars Clone Wars was better than the first two prequel episodes, perhaps even combined.

[Duke]

-Mitsuishi Kotono was able to voice Excel through all 26 episodes. However because of Excel, Jessica Calvello damaged her vocal chords and after episode 13 of Excel Saga, Larissa Wolcott did her.

It wasn't serious damage, ADV just wanted to hurry up the dubbing due to the giant success, and wouldn't give Jessica the needed amount of rest time.

I'm sure many fans would've gladly waited the extra month or so if it meant Jessica would stay on.

[Eddie G.]

I dont mean to be rude, but a lot of this isn't irony... it's just some things that happened that are either interesting or kind of funny.

[Kryten]

"Hey Arnold!: The Movie" featured a pastiche of Men in Black... whose sequel came out within weeks of the film.
That's not irony, that's just a coincidence!

[tucsoncoyote]

Alright now this is perhaps the Ultimate Irony...and it's a blatant Plug for Flight Simulators

Remember the Old Roadrunner Coyote Cartoons?

if you do then here it is.. A rocket Powered Wild E. Coyote, finally becoming Part of the Microsoft Flight Simulator group For Flight Simulatr 2004. and here is the Picture to Prove it!

http://www.flightsim.com/cgi/zview?cm=view&fn=77/wecaj.zip&an=Firecracker/wec.jpg

Need I say more?..(Oh yeah, this thing does Fly, and has all the effects, including Smoke trail.. (Luckily for this coyote, it doesn't explode!):D

(only In America!)

:coyote:

[Hordesman]

The first CD I ever got with copy-write protection was for the pirate anime "One Piece".

Tim Curry played evil geneticists on Gargoyles and Rocky Horror.

[J. B. Warner]

Before Advanced Generation started, Brock only had 5 Pokemon.

Both Brock and James in Pokemon are voiced by the same person. Same for Misty and Jessie & Jenny and Joy.

Even more surprising, Ash, Ash's Mother, and May are all voiced by the same person.

Another "Pokémon" irony that always bugged me - Ash has devoted himself to becoming the self-proclaimed "Greatest Pokémon Master of All Time", yet he's now released more Pokémon than he's ever owned at any given point in the series' run.

And Brock has stated that what he really wants to be is a Pokémon breeder, yet he hasn't actually bred any of his Pokémon (yeah, I realize it's a kids' show, but still).

Kids' WB deemed the episode "The Legend of Dratini" unfit to air in the US because of gun use. Yet at the time, Kids' WB also aired "Looney Tunes" on a regular basis, where gun use is much more prominent (Chuck Jones' "Bugs-Daffy-Elmer" trilogy, anyone?). To add insult and injury to irony, this episode features a pivotal plot point - it's where Ash catches all 30 of his Tauros.

In "Pokémon Emergency", the second episode, Misty sends out her Goldeen to battle Team Rocket, but all it does is flop around - to which Misty replies that Water Pokémon can't fight on land. Yet in nearly every subsequent episode, Water Pokémon have been seen fighting successfully on land numerous times.

Throughout the series' first season, certain points were constantly stated - such as the claim that Pokémon have no genders - that were eventually disproved as each subsequent season progressed.

4Kids is infamous for digitally painting cheap clipart over Japanese text on "Pokémon. In "Beauty and the Beach" (the Kids' WB-billed "lost episode"), nearly every Japanese sign was left unpainted, and the only two signs that were in English inexplicably WERE painted over.

The next few things aren't ironies, but I still found them weird:
James owns a Victreebel, and in "The Breeding Center Secret", the episode in which he obtained it, he claims that it evolved from his Weepinbell. Yet he was never seen with a Weepinbell on his team prior to that episode.

In the episode "So Near, Yet So Farfetch'd", Jessie complains that Farfetch'd stole her Lickitung. But she didn't catch Lickitung until three episodes later, and to my knowledge, neither episode was shown out of order.

[Duke]

Kids' WB deemed the episode "The Legend of Dratini" unfit to air in the US because of gun use. Yet at the time, Kids' WB also aired "Looney Tunes" on a regular basis, where gun use is much more prominent (Chuck Jones' "Bugs-Daffy-Elmer" trilogy, anyone?). To add insult and injury to irony, this episode features a pivotal plot point - it's where Ash catches all 30 of his Tauros.
It wasn't because the Warden used guns, it's because he was a happy-go-lucky, kind-hearted guy and shot them at Ash & co. as well as Team Rocket.


In the episode "So Near, Yet So Farfetch'd", Jessie complains that Farfetch'd stole her Lickitung. But she didn't catch Lickitung until three episodes later, and to my knowledge, neither episode was shown out of order.
Those were out-of-order. The Princess Festival episode (where Jessie catches Lickitung) came first. 4Kids dubbed it/aired it later because of all the Japanese text.

[J. B. Warner]

Those were out-of-order. The Princess Festival episode (where Jessie catches Lickitung) came first. 4Kids dubbed it/aired it later because of all the Japanese text.

To quote Linus from the "Peanuts" comic strip, "I apologize for being so stupid."

In fact, now that you mention it, I do remember reading that the Princess Festival episode got pushed to the end of season 1 and was actually used as the season finale due to the excessive need for 4Kids to completely eliminate all traces of Japanese culture from the episode (another irony, as Princess Day doesn't even exist outside of Japan). Musta just slipped my mind.

[Hordesman]

Kids' WB deemed the episode "The Legend of Dratini" unfit to air in the US because of gun use.
The warden's gun use is relentless, somewhat plot-based and a sizeable amount of screentime. I really don't think it'd work as a full-length episode if all that were cut. And the gun scenes would include the TR motto. Also, the Rockets are shown as having guns themselves which begs the question why they don't hold up the kids with them. And Jessie gets in a schoolgirl uniform to try and seduce info from the Warden.


The next few things aren't ironies, but I still found them weird:
James owns a Victreebel, and in "The Breeding Center Secret", the episode in which he obtained it, he claims that it evolved from his Weepinbell. Yet he was never seen with a Weepinbell on his team prior to that episode.
Probably grabbed it when he stopped back home a couple eps earlier.

[Vyse]

-The first 3D computer-animated cartoon series, Reboot, left ABC in 1996, during the net's takeover by its then-new owners, Disney. Today, Disney is embracing 3D computer-animation so much that the company is now shunning traditional animation.

-Sailor Moon has a kid-friendly image in America with no offensive material; in Japan, Sailor Moon has perverts, cross-dressers, massive amounts of death, and lesbians (and that's excluding the gender-bending Star Lights!)

-Anime FLCL has aired on American television but not on Japanese television

[TWinPA]

Final Fantasy X's Wakka, who repeatedly vocallizes his hatred of machina (any technology forbidden by the main government of FFX), is voiced by John DiMaggio. One of DiMaggio's best known roles is Bender, the lovably amoral robot from Futurama.

[Fone Bone]

The irony of this would be that if John K.'s original Ren and Stimpy were on a channel like MTV (and it was, IIRC), and was successful there, there'd be no need for the APC.

The other two are kinda debatable, depending on what you think of John K. I don't think John K. is up there with Chuck Jones or Disney, but at least the guy knows that cartoons aren't for kids and he's against the classics being censored for BS&P reasons. With that, I salute the man.

Some other ironies in animation include:

-In one episode of the Simpsons (the one where they join a cult), Bart says "Church, cult, cult, church. Either way, we'll be bored on Sundays". What's ironic is that the voice of Bart (Nancy Cartwright) is a member of the Church of Scientology, who doesn't believe in that. Same thing goes for the episode where Bart takes Focusyn and it drives him crazy (scientologists don't believe in behavior-modifying drugs)

-Samurai Jack is voiced by a black man (Phil LaMarr, who was Hermes Conrad on Futurama and was on the first couple seasons of MadTV)

-The voice of Homer Simpson (Dan Castellaneta) is actually a vegetarian.
I was being kinda snarky. Animation fans have stuck by John K. for over ten years convinced he got shafted by Nick. APC is supposedly the kind of cartoon he would've done if the censors hadn't interfered. After seeing four eps of APC it seems my loyalty was misplaced. I mean, I stuck by this guy through Ripping Friends for Pete's sake! As an aspiring cartoonist John K. was always my idol. But the fact that he keeps producing crap and bad-mouthing other talented cartoonists (bad taste in the biz) should've clued me in sooner that the Emperor had no clothes. It's great fun to realize that the animator you've always idolized represents all that is wrong with a lot of cartoons today. Oh, I'm not bitter. (Takes another drink.):D

Nancy Cartwright always ticked me off. Her recent salary demands haven't raised my opinion of her.

Phil LeMarr is great. He's also Osmosis Jones and Evil Con Carne.

I had no idea Dan Castellaneta is a vegetarian. He must get a kick out of playing Homer.

[DarthGonzo]

what are your favorite cartoon ironies?

mine is this: Kevin, from Ed Edd 'n' Eddy is the most macho guy on the show. however he is the only boy on the show that's voiced by a woman.:) it's true! even Jimmy's voice is done by a guy.
Not true, since Kevin and Ed are voiced by the same person. Are you sure about this?

[DarthGonzo]

Both of these related to Hey Arnold!
* One of Phoebe's most siginificant roles is in the ep titled "Phoebe Takes The Fall", and yet Anndi McAfee is curiously absent from the credits of that ep.
* Stinky's favorite phrase is "This really bites", and yet in the eps (Stinky Goes Hollywood, Stinky's Pumpkin) that are directly about him, he doesn't say it.

And in a situation similar to Kevin from Ed Edd and Eddy, Nick Dean considers himself the cool kid of Retroville, but besides the main character, he's the only boy voiced by a girl on Jimmy Neutron. And by a Dexter vet I might add (Candi Milo).

And on Rugrats, Harold was supposed to have been introduced in "Pre School Daze" (which may or may not have only aired this past week), but he features in at least two "subsequent" Rugrats eps, and a few eps of the spinoff All Grown Up!, all of which aired before "Pre School Daze".
This stuff isnt ironic, it's just you using the thread as an excuse to talk about your favorite Nicktoons some more.

[Hordesman]

in Japan, Sailor Moon has perverts, cross-dressers, massive amounts of death, and lesbians
Didn't Superman:TAS have the latter, too?

[Dan Turpin]

Not true, since Kevin and Ed are voiced by the same person. Are you sure about this?
I think I can back up Shadowy Figure on this.

http://www.tvtome.com/EdEddnEddy/
If you go down to where the cast list is, it says that Kevin & Marie Kanker are both voiced by Kathleen Barr.
Ed is voiced by Matt Hill, the guy who does Carlos on Transformers: Armada and Energon

[Antiyonder]

Because the network wanted more school based toons. Also the third season was considered too dark toned for a Saturday Morning Cartoon.

There's either irony or a coincedence in that, because one of the sprites on The Season 2 finale said: The ABCs have turned on us.

[shogunthethird]

that wasn't irony, that was the joke, Mainframe and ABC didn't part on the best of terms, the censorship was something fierce

[Alex Toon]

Here's an irony: In the first episodes of Pokemon, Ash's VA, Veronica Taylor, made Ash sound more like a boy with a boyish voice. Now you can tell it's a girl voicing him.

[Dudley]

Another "Pokémon" irony that always bugged me - Ash has devoted himself to becoming the self-proclaimed "Greatest Pokémon Master of All Time", yet he's now released more Pokémon than he's ever owned at any given point in the series' run.

If you meant "release" as in: give all his Pokemon to Professor Oak to start fresh, then yes. But if you meant "release" as in: release into the wild, then no.



Kids' WB deemed the episode "The Legend of Dratini" unfit to air in the US because of gun use. Yet at the time, Kids' WB also aired "Looney Tunes" on a regular basis, where gun use is much more prominent (Chuck Jones' "Bugs-Daffy-Elmer" trilogy, anyone?). To add insult and injury to irony, this episode features a pivotal plot point - it's where Ash catches all 30 of his Tauros.

What's also ironic about this is that they showed a scene of this episode in the Pokemon Rap.



In "Pokémon Emergency", the second episode, Misty sends out her Goldeen to battle Team Rocket, but all it does is flop around - to which Misty replies that Water Pokémon can't fight on land. Yet in nearly every subsequent episode, Water Pokémon have been seen fighting successfully on land numerous times.

It's was a matter of her not being specific. Some water Pokemon can't fight on land, because they have no legs to stand on. Goldeen, Horsea, Mantine, Remoraid, Sharpedo, and of course, Magikarp, are good examples. (Gyrados can manage, though)

You'd think Misty would know better. :rolleyes:
Has her Goldeen ever been use successfully in a battle?

[Duke]

It's was a matter of her not being specific. Some water Pokemon can't fight on land, because they have no legs to stand on. Goldeen, Horsea, Mantine, Remoraid, Sharpedo, and of course, Magikarp, are good examples. (Gyrados can manage, though)

You'd think Misty would know better. :rolleyes:
Has her Goldeen ever been use successfully in a battle?
Nope. (You can see one particular battle today at 5PM on Cartoon Network...)

However, Goldeen CAN walk on land, or hop. And it seemed to grow as the seasons went on. During the first 20 episodes or so, Goldeen was about as big as a Rattata or a Pidgey, but in Johto, it was 5x bigger than Pikachu.

[Dudley]

Nope. (You can see one particular battle today at 5PM on Cartoon Network...)

However, Goldeen CAN walk on land, or hop. And it seemed to grow as the seasons went on. During the first 20 episodes or so, Goldeen was about as big as a Rattata or a Pidgey, but in Johto, it was 5x bigger than Pikachu.
Wierd. It's ironic that she carries Goldeen with her, when she doesn't use it.

[Duke]

Wierd. It's ironic that she carries Goldeen with her, when she doesn't use it.
She does use it (A bit more once Starmie and Horsea leave, but still nowhere near Staryu and Politoed), she just never wins any battles. XD

[TnAdct1]

Some more ironies:

-The voice of Bart Simpson originally auditioned for the part of Lisa, while the voice of Lisa originally auditioned for Bart.

-"Can You Feel the Love Tonight", the most popular song from the Lion King, was originally written as a comical song.

-Tigger, one of the most popular characters in Winnie-the-Pooh, isn't even mentioned in the Winnie-the-Pooh theme song (as in the theatrical shorts).

-Ed from Cowboy Bebop was originally planned to be a boy (in fact, the character designs for the planned "male Ed" was used for one of the boys that were looking at the nudie magazine in episode 5 of the series).

[candy17]

-Ed from Cowboy Bebop was originally planned to be a boy (in fact, the character designs for the planned "male Ed" was used for one of the boys that were looking at the nudie magazine in episode 5 of the series).
I've heard of that. Another Bebop irony is that in Real Folk Blues II, Spike was supposed to survive after his final battle with Vicious, but the creator either wanted the series to end or didn't like how Spike always came out of battles unscathed, so that's why it ends with Spike's death.

Another irony, this time a deeper one, comes from the episode of Futurama where aliens attack Earth after Fry accidentally cuts off the final episode of Single Female Lawyer (their take on Ally McBeal). Fry and the others act out an episode of a show called "Single Female Lawyer." Leela, playing the single female lawyer, says that she is marrying the judge. Fry stops her and she asks why. "It's smart and unexpected." she says. Then Fry says, "Smart thing make people feel dumb and unexpected things make people feel scared. People don't want new and exciting; they want the same thing they've seen a thousand times before."

The irony in this is that this is why most people favored the Simpsons over Futurama.

Convoluted, yes, but I tried, damn it!

[Don_East]

In "South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut", Conan O' Brian jumped out of a building and killed himself. The irony: Conan actually liked the joke at him.

[FerrariCake]

-Vash the Stampede was voiced by the guy who played the second Black Ranger in Power Rangers.Um, I'm preeeety sure Johnny Yong Bosch was the Green/ White one... I remember him 'cuz he had the ponytail.

[Duke]

Um, I'm preeeety sure Johnny Yong Bosch was the Green/ White one... I remember him 'cuz he had the ponytail.
That was Jason David Frank who played Tommy (He's in DinoThunder). Johnny Young Bosch played Adam, the second Black Ranger.

[Rover_Wow]

Hey Arnold!'s and PPGs' films both tanked at the box office. The irony is that while critics loved PPGs' much more than HA!'s, HA!'s grossed more than the PPGs' (though with $16m to $11m, that's not much consolation).
Even more ironic, HA!'s film was actually slightly more favored than the no. 1 the week it was released Mr. Deeds (then again with 33% to 20+%, that's not much consolation either).
OK, it's a truth of the movie biz that the better film sometimes bombs, but I still think it's interesting...

Another irony is that HA!'s (great show, bad movie) poster and that of Nick's previous film, Jimmy Neutron (great movie, bad show), are of similar designs:
http://www.rugratonline.com/hamov4ca.jpg
http://www.rugratonline.com/jneutrn4.jpg

As Steve Mindykowski says:


The poster design for the Hey Arnold film practically apes a similar design used for a poster and tape case for a previous animated Nick film, Jimmy Neutron, Boy Genius. Both have the main character at front, his best friends on either side of them, their other friends behind them, and the enemy overing over them, while theiy're standing on the street in their neighborhood. The only difference is that Jimmy Neutron has a weapon, and Arnold doesn't (though Arnold probably has an invisible weapon -- his wits and intellect).

[SirLemming]

I've heard of that. Another Bebop irony is that in Real Folk Blues II, Spike was supposed to survive after his final battle with Vicious, but the creator either wanted the series to end or didn't like how Spike always came out of battles unscathed, so that's why it ends with Spike's death.
Whoa, hey! Spoiler tags, buddy! I'm talking to you, candy17!

[Conan-san]

Uh...

In digimon, the involvment of the digimon (alone) has decreased
In adventure, they fought along side the humans
In Tamers, they merged with the humans
In Frountear, Humans BECAME digimon

Always thought that was wierd.

[Alex Toon]

Hey Arnold!'s and PPGs' films both tanked at the box office. The irony is that while critics loved PPGs' much more than HA!'s, HA!'s grossed more than the PPGs' (though with $16m to $11m, that's not much consolation).
Even more ironic, HA!'s film was actually slightly more favored than the no. 1 the week it was released Mr. Deeds (then again with 33% to 20+%, that's not much consolation either).
OK, it's a truth of the movie biz that the better film sometimes bombs, but I still think it's interesting...

Another irony is that HA!'s (great show, bad movie) poster and that of Nick's previous film, Jimmy Neutron (great movie, bad show), are of similar designs:
http://www.rugratonline.com/hamov4ca.jpg
http://www.rugratonline.com/jneutrn4.jpg

As Steve Mindykowski says: That's not irony. That's just a coincidence.

[tucsoncoyote]

I found at least 3 ironies in Cartoon Network cartoons.. No wait make that 4..

1. Dexter as Speed Racer, Dee Dee as Racer X/Spridle, and Mandark as Snake Oil (From the Car Acrobatic Team..) Okay Speed Racer is king, but come on when Dexter Plugs this and makes it look bad.. that's irony..

2. Samurai Jack Episode 39.. alright why does the Thief Jack is working with look mysteriously like someone out of Lupin the 3rd..(and don't you wish it was Fujiko?)

3. Back to Dexter.. and who is that Crazy Canine? (Yep this is where Gary Owens is back as the Blue Falcon (or is it Blue Falcone?) and Dino mutt, Dog Wonder. God when I saw this.. I go.. NOOOOOOOOOOO Irony of Ironies where's Monkey when you need him??!!!

4. Finally Johnny Bravo.. Shaggy, Scooby, Velma, Daphne, Fred.. umm yeah.. Irony that it was Johnny's Aunt Jebadissa! Also did anyone catch Johnny flirting with Daphne, yet we all know who really Loves Johnny.. (It's Velma..)
Johnny, Keep your hands off my woman! :D (Alright so Im a sucker for Intelligent Womenalright?)

Okay that's enough irony.. now back to reality.. Waiter, Reality Check Please!

:coyote:

[ElBarto]

hey just tgought I would let everyone know that if you type on cartoon ironies on www.google.com (http://www.google.com) this is the first thing to pop up and I just thought that was cool!

[tucsoncoyote]

hey just tgought I would let everyone know that if you type on cartoon ironies on www.google.com (http://www.google.com/) this is the first thing to pop up and I just thought that was cool!Talk about irony!..........we've been Googled!:D

:coyote:

[sag_2002]

Some more Digimon irony for ya.

In season 2, Davis, despite all his flaws, was still my favorite character. Well, imagine my surprise when his VA popped up for the episode recaps for Tamers.

As if that wasn't enough, that season (Tamers) also brought me Rika. I was really sad to see her go, so I was SHOCKED, SHOCKED I TELLS YA! to hear that Melissa Fahn's Rika voice had RETURNED to us as the recapper for Frontier. I was just like, "WOW! Maybe this season won't be so bad after all."

Just thought of a second irony. Will Fredle (sic?) voiced a bad-*** hero in Batman Beyond, yet here he is a couple years later, voicing Kim Possible's goofy sidekick Ron.

[J. B. Warner]

-Tigger, one of the most popular characters in Winnie-the-Pooh, isn't even mentioned in the Winnie-the-Pooh theme song (as in the theatrical shorts).

That's because he was introduced later in the series, after the theme song had been animated.

[TnAdct1]

That's because he was introduced later in the series, after the theme song had been animated.
Piglet is mentioned in the theme song and, other than the theme song (with a early model of him), he doesn't appear in the first Winnie-the-Pooh short.

[Kryten]

I found at least 3 ironies in Cartoon Network cartoons.. No wait make that 4..

1. Dexter as Speed Racer, Dee Dee as Racer X/Spridle, and Mandark as Snake Oil (From the Car Acrobatic Team..) Okay Speed Racer is king, but come on when Dexter Plugs this and makes it look bad.. that's irony..

2. Samurai Jack Episode 39.. alright why does the Thief Jack is working with look mysteriously like someone out of Lupin the 3rd..(and don't you wish it was Fujiko?)

3. Back to Dexter.. and who is that Crazy Canine? (Yep this is where Gary Owens is back as the Blue Falcon (or is it Blue Falcone?) and Dino mutt, Dog Wonder. God when I saw this.. I go.. NOOOOOOOOOOO Irony of Ironies where's Monkey when you need him??!!!

4. Finally Johnny Bravo.. Shaggy, Scooby, Velma, Daphne, Fred.. umm yeah.. Irony that it was Johnny's Aunt Jebadissa! Also did anyone catch Johnny flirting with Daphne, yet we all know who really Loves Johnny.. (It's Velma..)
Johnny, Keep your hands off my woman! :D (Alright so Im a sucker for Intelligent Womenalright?)

Okay that's enough irony.. now back to reality.. Waiter, Reality Check Please!

:coyote:
Do you even know what the word "irony" MEANS?

[tucsoncoyote]

Just thought of a second irony. Will Fredle (sic?) voiced a bad-*** hero in Batman Beyond, yet here he is a couple years later, voicing Kim Possible's goofy sidekick Ron.
Well then I can add more ironies to that and this of course comes out of the same show or in a number of shows, Sag.... Nancy Cartwright and John Dimaggio doing voice overs for Rufus and Dr. Drakken Respectively... I mean Bart Simpson Trapped in a body of a Naked Mole Rat.. Bender the Robot Trapped in an Evil Genius' Mind..(It's amazing Dimaggio hasn't at some time done Drakken and accidentally blurted out , "Bite my Big Shiny Metal ***!" and another time Nancy Cartwright having that cute voice of her's saying a la Rufus... "Eat my Shorts!.."

But then perhaps the biggest Kim Possible Irony is that of Senor Senior Sr, when Ricardo Montalban Voices him.. You swear you have Khan from the Old Star Trek Series.. Trapped in the body of a Retired billionaire...

(and then don't forget Adam West (From the Fearless Ferret Episode), where the Ultimate irony is that West has done not only the Original Batman but has later shown up on a Batman the Animated Series show (The Grey Ghost episode) as an Out of Work Hasbeen actor who was Typecast as a Hero) and then later again as Timothy North (a Play on his own name..) in the fearless Ferret where he plays.. an Out of Work Hasbeen Actor who was typecast as a Hero!)

I really am starting to feel like I'm getting Deja vu.. but then again don't forget Dan Castellena (Homer Simpson) doing the voice of Genie in the Aladdin Animated series on Disney either..

Plus Michael Dorn, Going from Klingon (in Star Trek the Next Generation) , to Coldstone the Gargoyle (in Disney's Gargoyles) to Weasel (In I.M. Weasel) to Intelligent Naked Mole Rat (In Kim Possible: A Sitch in Time) to Martian Guard Robot and Klunkon Warrior (In Duck Dodgers)..(Is it me or is Michael Dorn Devolving down the evolutionary Ladder? or is he just going full circle (From Klingon to Klunkon?) :eek: )

And finally Don't forget Nicole Sullivan... going from Good Girl Space Ranger Mira Nova (in Buzz Lightyear of Star Command) , to Bad Girl She-go (in Kim Possible)...and then on to goth girl Joan of Arc (in Clone High).

So anyway you slice it.. you got deja vu..deja vu.. deja vu ..*Scratches record * when it comes to voice actors (and Acresses!)

:coyote:

[Alex Toon]

Digimon irony: Daran Norris plays Mercurymon in Fronteir.Mercurymon has the personality of a fancy, patient English knight. The irony? He voices Cosmo on the Fairly Oddparents, and Cosmo isn't that sophisticated! :D

[ElBarto]

Well then I can add more ironies to that and this of course comes out of the same show or in a number of shows, Sag.... Nancy Cartwright and John Dimaggio doing voice overs for Rufus and Dr. Drakken Respectively... I mean Bart Simpson Trapped in a body of a Naked Mole Rat.. Bender the Robot Trapped in an Evil Genius' Mind..(It's amazing Dimaggio hasn't at some time done Drakken and accidentally blurted out , "Bite my Big Shiny Metal ***!" and another time Nancy Cartwright having that cute voice of her's saying a la Rufus... "Eat my Shorts!.."

But then perhaps the biggest Kim Possible Irony is that of Senor Senior Sr, when Ricardo Montalban Voices him.. You swear you have Khan from the Old Star Trek Series.. Trapped in the body of a Retired billionaire...

(and then don't forget Adam West (From the Fearless Ferret Episode), where the Ultimate irony is that West has done not only the Original Batman but has later shown up on a Batman the Animated Series show (The Grey Ghost episode) as an Out of Work Hasbeen actor who was Typecast as a Hero) and then later again as Timothy North (a Play on his own name..) in the fearless Ferret where he plays.. an Out of Work Hasbeen Actor who was typecast as a Hero!)

I really am starting to feel like I'm getting Deja vu.. but then again don't forget Dan Castellena (Homer Simpson) doing the voice of Genie in the Aladdin Animated series on Disney either..

Plus Michael Dorn, Going from Klingon (in Star Trek the Next Generation) , to Coldstone the Gargoyle (in Disney's Gargoyles) to Weasel (In I.M. Weasel) to Intelligent Naked Mole Rat (In Kim Possible: A Sitch in Time) to Martian Guard Robot and Klunkon Warrior (In Duck Dodgers)..(Is it me or is Michael Dorn Devolving down the evolutionary Ladder? or is he just going full circle (From Klingon to Klunkon?) :eek: )

And finally Don't forget Nicole Sullivan... going from Good Girl Space Ranger Mira Nova (in Buzz Lightyear of Star Command) , to Bad Girl She-go (in Kim Possible)...and then on to goth girl Joan of Arc (in Clone High).

So anyway you slice it.. you got deja vu..deja vu.. deja vu ..*Scratches record * when it comes to voice actors (and Acresses!)

:coyote:...seriously dude I think Kryten is right

Do you even know what the word "irony" MEANS? those aren't ironies! those are just coincidenes (I don't know how to spell that!)

oh and another thing....in most of your 'ironies' you said things about voice actors playing different charactors....maybe they need money if you were Nacy Cartwright and you were offered money to say a few words you would do it! So tell us do you know what ironie is?

[Duke]

Not so much a cartoon but a cartoon block.

Toonami first appeared Monday, March 17th, 1997.

It celebrates its 10th Anniversary Saturday, March 17th, 2007.

I don't think Williams Street plans that far ahead...

[B.W.H.]

Double D from Ed,Edd,nEddy who is one of Eddy's best friends and trusted partners has a very similar design to Kevin, one of Eddy's most hated enemies.

[Duke]

How about a classic?

Bill Murray played Peter Venkman in the Ghostbusters Movies, but Lorenzo Music played Peter in the Ghostbusters TV series. Lorenzo Music played Garfield in the TV movies and series, and Bill Murray is playing Garfield in the upcoming movie.

[DSRGirl]

(and then don't forget Adam West (From the Fearless Ferret Episode), where the Ultimate irony is that West has done not only the Original Batman but has later shown up on a Batman the Animated Series show (The Grey Ghost episode) as an Out of Work Hasbeen actor who was Typecast as a Hero) and then later again as Timothy North (a Play on his own name..) in the fearless Ferret where he plays.. an Out of Work Hasbeen Actor who was typecast as a Hero!)
The Ultimate Irony is that Adam West (who played the Live Action Batman in the TV Show) played Mayor West in Family Guy, and then went on to play The Mayor Of Gotham series in "The Batman". Talk about from campy to creepy!... or something.

Another Irony: Yu Yu Hakusho began on CN on ASA, A block that got high rating with teenagers, and is now on Saturday Toonami, which is a block that could get high ratings with Teenagers. I think that's ironic.

[Fone Bone]

How about a classic?

Bill Murray played Peter Venkman in the Ghostbusters Movies, but Lorenzo Music played Peter in the Ghostbusters TV series. Lorenzo Music played Garfield in the TV movies and series, and Bill Murray is playing Garfield in the upcoming movie.
That was perfect, thank you.

Most of these posts I'm reminded of the SNL sketch "Tales of Irony" where the host of the program gets increasingly frustrated that each Tale isn't really ironic at all. When they get to the scene of Dana Carvey in a farmer's get-up dancing in a corn-field with a pitch fork, the host loses it.

[EddieTheEditor]

[QUOTE=DSRGirl]The Ultimate Irony is that Adam West (who played the Live Action Batman in the TV Show) played Mayor West in Family Guy, and then went on to play The Mayor Of Gotham series in "The Batman". Talk about from campy to creepy!... or something.
QUOTE]

From what I've read, that's inaccurate. Mayor West is played by a guy who's named Adam West, but isn't the Adam West.

[J. B. Warner]

No, it was really Adam West. The thing was, his character was named Adam West, but it wasn't THE Adam West. He was playing someone with his name, not himself (which I imagine was just done to screw the fans up a bit).

[tucsoncoyote]

Another Irony: Yu Yu Hakusho began on CN on ASA, A block that got high rating with teenagers, and is now on Saturday Toonami, which is a block that could get high ratings with Teenagers. I think that's ironic.That's True.. of course then there is this irony as well with another show.. and this deals with Yu-Gi-Oh! and Duel Masters and then in an episode of Teen Titans, here are the Titans playing a Card game that looked vaguely familar... (is it me, or are we seeing Magic the Gathering here..?)

Robin and Raven (From Teen Titans) It's Just you....

:coyote:

[DSRGirl]

Here's another Irony concerning TT: Both Teen Titans and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles originally started as 80's Comics that were known for having a darker "edge" then your average comics. However, both are now kid friendly TV shows appearing on the Miguzi block (targeted for 6-11 year olds).

[Don_East]

Matt Groening's cameo on tonight's episode of The Simpsons is a victim of the "Look it's insert celebrity's name here" cameo.

[Zorak Masaki]

Both Cyborg and Robin arent just teen titans, they also are JLA members (if superfriends counts as the JLA)

Samurai Jack was a big hit for CN, yet Ruroni Kenshin and Lupin III (Which both feature samurai) were flops for CN

[Paul_Cousins]

Well I find it ironic that the Star Trek cast from the first 4 series voice acted one of the best animated fantasy series ever made; Gargoyles Seasons 1 & 2 (yes it had a lot of in it sci-fi, but it was fantasy at it's core).

[Antiyonder]

I know how to use the word, but I don't know the actual definition for the word.

Could some give me a clear definition?

[Rurouni]

- The Fairly Oddparents, a show that could pass for a Cartoon Cartoon and was created by CC veteran Butch Hartman, was rejected by Cartoon Network.

-Of the surviving "Star Trek" cast, James Doohan was the only one who did not appear in the Futurama episode reuniting them, even though he's probably made more guest appearances trading on his ST fame on other shows and movies than any of the other actors from that show.

-Throughout the entire run of Dragon Ball (1986-1997), Son Goku, the young boy martial artist who grew up to become the strongest man in the universe, was voiced by Masako Nozawa, a then 50-something year old woman. She's now in her late 60's.

-Himura Kenshin of Rurouni Kenshin, the strongest swordsman during the days of the Revolution in 1860's Japan, was also voiced by a woman.

[Rover_Wow]

Of the surviving "Star Trek" cast, James Doohan was the only one who did not appear in the Futurama episode reuniting them, even though he's probably made more guest appearances trading on his ST fame on other shows and movies than any of the other actors from that show.


Would that include Shatner? Everytime he appears anywhere, you're probably thinking Star Trek anyhow (maybe TJ Hooker, but most likely Star Trek).

[lostrune]

I know how to use the word, but I don't know the actual definition for the word.

Could some give me a clear definition?

From Dictionary.com ('http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=irony'):

i·ro·ny

1.
a) The use of words to express something different from and often opposite to their literal meaning.
b) An expression or utterance marked by a deliberate contrast between apparent and intended meaning.
c) A literary style employing such contrasts for humorous or rhetorical effect.
See Synonyms at wit1.

2.
a) Incongruity between what might be expected and what actually occurs: “Hyde noted the irony of Ireland's copying the nation she most hated” (Richard Kain).
b) An occurrence, result, or circumstance notable for such incongruity.
See Usage Note at ironic.


Ex: If you hate animation, but you ended up working on it. That's irony.

[EddieTheEditor]

No, it was really Adam West. The thing was, his character was named Adam West, but it wasn't THE Adam West. He was playing someone with his name, not himself (which I imagine was just done to screw the fans up a bit).
That's what I said.

[Rurouni]

Would that include Shatner? Everytime he appears anywhere, you're probably thinking Star Trek anyhow (maybe TJ Hooker, but most likely Star Trek).
No, not really. Kirk is his signature role of course, but he's done enough non-Trek stuff (the aforementioned T.J. Hooker, Rescue 911, PriceLine ads), that I actually don't think of Kirk that much when I see him. I always think Scotty when I see Doohan though.

[Duke]

I ALWAYS think of Kirk whenever I see Shatner.

[J. B. Warner]

I don't think anyone came up with this irony yet (and if they didn't, I'm surprised):

Mel Blanc, the voice of Bugs Bunny, had an allergic reaction to carrots in which his throat muscles would tighten up to the point where he couldn't do Bugs' voice correctly.

[candy17]

I don't think anyone came up with this irony yet (and if they didn't, I'm surprised):

Mel Blanc, the voice of Bugs Bunny, had an allergic reaction to carrots in which his throat muscles would tighten up to the point where he couldn't do Bugs' voice correctly.
(whining): I was gonna say that.:(

And it's true. Whenever Mel had to eat a carrot to get the sound of Bugs eating one, they'd cut the sound so that way Mel could spit the carrot out.

Here's a couple more ironies:

-The Pepe Le Pew cartoons are known for having female cats as the object of Pepe's affection, but the first cartoon (Odorable Kitty) had a male cat as a skunk and the one after that (Scent-imental Over You) had a dog (a chichuahua to be exact).

-There was an episode of Family Guy where Peter says, "Wow, I look like a freakin' Emmy" and adds "Hint, hint". Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Family Guy has won any Emmys.



The Fairly Oddparents, a show that could pass for a Cartoon Cartoon and was created by CC veteran Butch Hartman, was rejected by Cartoon Network.

Hey, I didn't know that. And that's a shame because FOP, Invader ZIM, and My Life As A Teenage Robot could pass for CC's.



If you hate animation, but you ended up working on it. That's irony.

Didn't Mike Lazzo (one of the higher-ups of CN) make a comment that implied he didn't like animation?

[Pic1360]

:rolleyes: It's ironic that Ed, Edd, and Eddy will flee in terror when they meet their female opposites, the Kanker sisters, but let them meet
"Nazz" (An 8 year-old girl with a woman's voice), and they would do anything for her, even walk barefoot into Hades.

[TnAdct1]

There was an episode of Family Guy where Peter says, "Wow, I look like a freakin' Emmy" and adds "Hint, hint". Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Family Guy has won any Emmys.
It did win an Emmy in the "Best Song Written for TV" category for the song that appears in the episode where Brian is forced to do community service at an old woman's house while Peter grows a beard with becomes a nest for a swallow.

[candy17]

It did win an Emmy in the "Best Song Written for TV" category for the song that appears in the episode where Brian is forced to do community service at an old woman's house while Peter grows a beard with becomes a nest for a swallow.
Oh yeah, but it didn't win, like Best Animated show. But still, I knew that bit of irony was wrong, so I just put it there to see if anyone could correct me (I know the one about Pepe is true and I got the taped cartoons to prove it).

[Conan-san]

-Throughout the entire run of Dragon Ball (1986-1997), Son Goku, the young boy martial artist who grew up to become the strongest man in the universe, was voiced by Masako Nozawa, a then 50-something year old woman. She's now in her late 60's.

Digimon fans would also rember her as the JP va for Gilumon.

[John Pannozzi]

Lauren Tom, who did the voice of Amy Wong on 'Futurama' played a character named Amy in the 1994 film "When a man loves a woman".

The Simpsons staff hated 'Married...With Children' (ex.: On the DVD commentary for "Krusty gets Busted", Mike Reiss (I think) says that MWC was trashy; in the ep. "Marge in Chains", Ned thinks that watching MWC and laughing at it caused his family to get the Osaka flu and from "Deep Space Homer":
[The next channel shows "Married...With Children"]
Peg: [whines] Al...let's have sex!
Al: Ehh, no Peg.
[Audience laughs and claps] [Al flushes a toilet, and everyone hollers and cheers] ), and Katey "Peg Bundy" Sagal later did the voice of Leela for the Simpsons' sibling 'Futurama'.

EDIT: In the commentary for "Marge in Chains", Matt Groening says that M...WC was good and someone else (I the ep.'s writer) says that the fact that it was offensive seems antique now.

[J. B. Warner]

Lauren Tom, who did the voice of Amy Wong on 'Futurama' played a character named Amy in the 1994 film "When a man loves a woman".
That's not ironic, it's just coincidental. Although it does bring up other connections in "Futurama" - in the Season 2 episode "Raging Bender", the movie theater marquee advertises the film "When a Man Loves a Smizzmar", and later on in Season 5's "Kif Gets Knocked Up a Notch", we learn that "smizzmar" is the word Kif's species uses for "significant other", who, in Kif's case, is Amy. Maybe it was a long-thought-out reference.

[Alex Toon]

Forgive me for bumping this, but I have more ironies.
-Marc Thompson is the voice of Kid Muscle in Ultimate Muscle. The irony:Thompson's first role was on Daria, a teen show that was spun off from Beavis and Butthead, said to be 1 of the crudest cartoons ever.

[Redi]

The Kids Next Door are voiced by adults.

[Kryten]

Forgive me for bumping this, but I have more ironies.
-Marc Thompson is the voice of Kid Muscle in Ultimate Muscle. The irony:Thompson's first role was on Daria, a teen show that was spun off from Beavis and Butthead, said to be 1 of the crudest cartoons ever.
How on Earth is that ironic in any way, shape, or form?

[Alex Toon]

How on Earth is that ironic in any way, shape, or form?Thompson first did voice work on a show aimed at teens, but now does VAs for kids animes.

[Tobias]

Thompson first did voice work on a show aimed at teens, but now does VAs for kids animes.

Um, that's still not an irony. Virtually every V/A has done work for both adult oriented and children oriented series.

[Alex Toon]

Um, that's still not an irony. Virtually every V/A has done work for both adult oriented and children oriented series.I just thought it was strange.

[Rover_Wow]

The Kids Next Door are voiced by adults.

That's hardly ironic... but Ben Diskin (#1, #2) did do the voice of Eugene on Hey Arnold!, so he's not exactly really old either. Meanwhile, Cree Summer is what, 40?

[Fone Bone]

That's hardly ironic... but Ben Diskin (#1, #2) did do the voice of Eugene on Hey Arnold!, so he's not exactly really old either. Meanwhile, Cree Summer is what, 40?
Actually, it is. It's not unusual for adults to voice kids in cartoons, but for KND to use them is baffling considering it's attitude toward all things grown up. It's all about "Kidz virsis teh evil adolts!!11!" and if kids actually fall for that tripe, they're stupid. Great irony Redi!

[Tobias]

Actually, it is. It's not unusual for adults to voice kids in cartoons, but for KND to use them is baffling considering it's attitude toward all things grown up. It's all about "Kidz virsis teh evil adolts!!11!" and if kids actually fall for that tripe, they're stupid. Great irony Redi!

If they used kids, wouldn't they have to replace them every two to three years like they did on Hey! Arnold?

[Rover_Wow]

If they used kids, wouldn't they have to replace them every two to three years like they did on Hey! Arnold?

Or they could use girls, like Rugrats and All Grown Up! has for 13 years. Then it would be even more ironic considering #4's attitude to girls :D

[Spongebrain2.0]

Spongebob's last name is SQUAREPANTS, yet his pants are shorts and they are not square but in the shape of a rectangle:eek:

[Fone Bone]

If they used kids, wouldn't they have to replace them every two to three years like they did on Hey! Arnold?
Yes, so it's probably best to use adults. It's still IRONIC though.:)

[Atoon]

I think that the only kid who voiced in Cartoon Network was Tyler Samuel Lee (Dexter and Computress Get Mandark! episode)

[G. Wen]

Most of the things people listed aren't ironies. Irony is:
-a person says one thing, but means something else (i.e. sarcasm)
-the ending of an outcome is different from what you expected

So, the greatest cartoon irony ever, the thing no one expected, the thing no one saw coming, is Owen, the obedient and servile assisstant to Xanatos turns out to be Puck.

Note from Mynd Hed: This post has been edited to include spoiler tags. WHAT'S SO FRIGGIN' HARD ABOUT USING THEM, PEOPLE? This was a something that I hadn't yet been privy to, and now it's been spoiled for me so that I could keep it from being spoiled for others. Talk about your cartoon ironies....

[Don_East]

Here's one:

Matt Groening, Mike Lazzo, & Johnny K. are well known for making some of the greatest cartoons ever. But when they worked together on the Spumco Yogi Bear shorts, they failed terribly.

[Fone Bone]

Here's one:

Matt Groening, Mike Lazzo, & Johnny K. are well known for making some of the greatest cartoons ever. But when they worked together on the Spumco Yogi Bear shorts, they failed terribly.Matt Groening didn't work on the Yogi Bear shorts, did he? I thought his hands were clean.:confused:

[JDWeil]

Walt Disney publicly admitted that he was afraid of mice.

[Alex Toon]

Beavis and Butthead were created by Mike Judge, who was an honor student as a kid. I'm serious!

[Yash]

BTW, for a few people who asked, the basic defenition of "irony" is "funny coincidence".

Detective Conan was originally meant to go to Fox Family as a kiddie Anime, but eventually it landed a spot on Adult Swim.

Matt Groening has worked on some of the worst crap seen in ages (all in the form of Simpsons 2... and apparently those Yogi Spumco cartoons...) yet created Futurama.

[Don_East]

Matt Groening didn't work on the Yogi Bear shorts, did he? I thought his hands were clean.:confused:
I fear so, he was a Writer & the Executive Producer.

[Don_East]

The Real Ghostbusters is considered the greatest Movie to TV transitions, but the characters from the movie that appeared in the cartoon don't look a thing like their movie counterpart.

Optimus Prime was meant to be dead.

Lupin The Third is one of the greatest animes in Japan but got cancelled in America.

[John Pannozzi]

I fear so, he was a Writer & the Executive Producer.
I don't think so. BTW, I disagree with your sig. IZ is really great IMHO.

[Fone Bone]

I don't think so.
I was wondering why I didn't see his name on the credits.

[John Pannozzi]

The most hated APC, "Onwards and Upwards" was storyboarded during the Nickelodeon years as a response to letters from fans who wanted to see an episode consisting entirely of gross-out gags.

[Don_East]

I don't think so. BTW, I disagree with your sig. IZ is really great IMHO.
Matt is a man with a reputation, he asked Johnny K. to not credit him in case the shorts were a flop(which they were) uncredit him & make him no where near the project. Also don't criticize my sig.

[John Pannozzi]

Matt is a man with a reputation, he asked Johnny K. to not credit him in case the shorts were a flop(which they were) uncredit him & make him no where near the project.
I doubt that because Matt said he wasn't a cartoonist, he's a writer that draws, and that wouldn't sit well with John K. And what do you mean the Spumco Yogi cartoons flopped? They were praised by TV Guide and IMHO they're really funny.

[DSRGirl]

I doubt that because Matt said he wasn't a cartoonist, he's a writer that draws, and that wouldn't sit well with John K. And what do you mean the Spumco Yogi cartoons flopped? They were praised by TV Guide and IMHO they're really funny.
The irony is the TV Guide, one of the most well known and used sources for information on Television, knows little about most cartoons and how good they are. They just pick the most popular ones and say a couple of things about them...

"SIMPSONS IS STILL THE GREATEST!"
"WACKY SOUTH PARK KIDS ARE IMMATURE AND FUNNY!"
"FAMILY GUY IS CULT CLASSIC KIND OF LIKE THE SIMPSONS"

[Redi]

The Jetsons takes place 100s of years from now, however its extremely outdated. The women are either assistants or homemakers and there is little ethnic diversity.

[Terminatah]

Most of the things people listed aren't ironies. Irony is:
-a person says one thing, but means something else (i.e. sarcasm)
-the ending of an outcome is different from what you expected

So, the greatest cartoon irony ever, the thing no one expected, the thing no one saw coming, is Owen, the obedient and servile assisstant to Xanatos turns out to be Puck.

Note from Mynd Hed: This post has been edited to include spoiler tags. WHAT'S SO FRIGGIN' HARD ABOUT USING THEM, PEOPLE? This was a something that I hadn't yet been privy to, and now it's been spoiled for me so that I could keep it from being spoiled for others. Talk about your cartoon ironies....Hey Mynd Hed, here's another irony for you. If you don't specify that it's a Gargoyles spoiler, the spoiler tags might as well not even be there.

-Terminatah

[John Pannozzi]

The Jetsons takes place 100s of years from now, however its extremely outdated. The women are either assistants or homemakers and there is little ethnic diversity.
True, but the Jetsons is set in the 21st century.

BTW, Don_East, you got the info that MG worked on Spumco's Yogi cartoons from Movie Tome, which is the sibling of TV Tome, which isn't the most reliable source of information on the internet, as several TZers (including Martaininvader and Artimus Gigan) have told me.

[HellCat]

Forgive me if this one has been mentioned already- 25 years ago Mobile Suit Gundam was considered a failure during its initial run. A quarter of a century on, it's one of the most well known, popular and inspiring franchises in the business.

[John Pannozzi]

When Futuram was first announced, it was said to be like THOH eps., yet it turned out to be more serious than recent Simpsons eps.


Forgive me if this one has been mentioned already- 25 years ago Mobile Suit Gundam was considered a failure during its initial run. A quarter of a century on, it's one of the most well known, popular and inspiring franchises in the business.
The same thing happened to Star Trek : TOS, Rugrats and maybe other shows.

[HellCat]

When Futuram was first announced, it was said to be like THOH eps., yet it turned out to be more serious than recent Simpsons eps.


The same thing happened to Star Trek : TOS, Rugrats and maybe other shows.
Yeah, but this thread is about animated ironies.....and I don't think Rugrats is ever going to have had the impact Gundam did.

[shogunthethird]

I find it Ironic that Gargoyles the darkest original cartoon (as in not having another property for its source material) ever made in America was put out by Disney, a company not known for mature animated series, moreover I find it equally Ironic that the original premise was for a comedy series but Michael Eisner nixed the idea (for all my Eisner-bashing, that's the decision he made I'm proudest of....tv-wise anyway) and what's more the show was a commercial failure yet it has one of the largest internet fandoms out there and is the first disney animated show (to my knowledge) to get a proper season one box set

[Dudley]

I find it Ironic that Gargoyles the darkest original cartoon (as in not having another property for its source material) ever made in America...Are you saying Gargoyles is darker than other American cartoons like, I dunno, Spawn?


I find it ironic that the Transformers live-action movie is coming out in 2005, the same year that the animated Transformers movie takes place in.

[Looneytunes]

Here are some:

In "The Real Ghostbusters", Peter Venkman's character looks much more like Dan Aykroyd and Ray Stantz' character looks much more like Bill Murray. Dan Aykroyd played Ray Stantz in the "Ghostbusters" films and Bill Murray played Peter Venkman in the "Ghostbusters" films. This had always bugged me. Argh!!!!!

In "Gumby", the blockheads, G and J, know the other blockheads: A, B, C, X, Y, and Z, but do not know the blockheads 1 and 2 (from the episode: "Kid Brother Kids"). They all had something in common, they were enemies of Gumby, they all should have met.

Heffer from "Rocko's Modern Life" is a steer, not a heifer. I know this is a joke for the show. But, it is still annoying.

In "Goof Troop", Goofy and Max are dogs, but have a pet cat named Waffles, Pete and his family are cats, but have a pet dog named Chainsaw. I know this may have been another joke, but this makes no sense to me.

I have seen many cartoons in my life, and there could be many ironies that I am not thinking of right now. I am full of knowing ironies, though. But, this is as best as I could do.

Looneytunes(Disneytoons)

[Looneytunes]

I forgot two of them:

1. This is not really a cartoon irony, but I wanted to point this out. In "Ghostbusters 2", there is pink slime coming out of Dana's bathtub that was trying to reach for her and her baby. One thing that really puzzles me is that there is a "Ghostbusters" action figure: Fearsome Flush, which is an evil ghost toilet. But, why was it not used in the film? I will never get it.

2. How come the "Sesame Street" muppets must always visit the "Muppet Show" muppets, but the "Muppet Show" muppets never visit the "Sesame Street" muppets? This kind of strange to me.

Okay, when I think of more, I will let you guys know.

Looneytunes(Disneytoons)

[Puss in Cute]

Digimon: Out of all the chosen ones Ryo is the most important and he makes the least appearances.