Easter Weekend Box Office: The Power of 'Christ' over powers 'HELLboy'

[The Clown Prince]

Well I'll be damned. No wait, let me say that again. I'll be friggin damned. Many on this board said 'Passion' would jump back to number one over the Easter weekend. After how long it's been out, I didn't think it was possible. I just did not believe that it was going to happen, but sure enough it did. But now I really have to wonder if individuals bought tickets, or if churches came in and bought out auditoriums again. In any case, tickets were sold and whether those seats were filled doesn't matter. Money is money, and 'Passion' made another $17 million and pushing it's total to now $354.8 million. Taking a look too at where it now sits on the all-time list it has jumped The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers and is now at number 8. Jurassic Park sits at number 7 with $357 million. A likely number 'Passion' will reach.

Meanwhile Hellboy though suffering a big drop from last weekend survived the onslaught of new releases and came in second place with $11.1 million and having a total so far of $41 million. A sequel according to the actors has been given the go a head. But we probably won't see it for a long time at least.

One of the new films this weekend, Johnson Family Vacation came in third place with $9.2 million. This one opened Wednesday so add in it's Wednesday and Thursday totals and it's up to $11.6 million.

The Alamo. Well, what can I say? This one bombed, and it bombed big. The $107 million film plus another $30 million more for marketing and advertising only managed to come in fourth place and bring in $9.2 million. Reviews have been mixed, the production on this thing has been troubled since the greenlight. I guess all the trouble didn't pay off this time. Are you reading the numbers Michael Eisner? I'm sure you are.

Rounding out the top 5 is Walking Tall which pulled in $8.3 million and a total of $28.8 million for The Rock.

Other new films this weekend to open were The Whole Ten Yards which came in eighth place bringing in $6.7 million. I've never understood why they even made a sequel. The first one stands on it's own and does great for ONE movie. Yes, it was a success, but that doesn't mean you go with an another one. Eh, hope they learned their lesson. No wait, it's a big studio. Probably not.

And The Girl Next Door debuted in tenth place with $6 million. For all the constant advertising on TV and the Internet, it sure didn't perform well despite it being tailor made for the demographic it was aimed for.

Anyways, next week we have three new movies opening up, two of them more than likely will be big.

First up is Kill Bill: Volume 2, the conclusion to Quentin Tarantino's bloody martial arts story. And then we have Marvel's next comic book movie, The Punisher. I really have to question both studios not caving and movie at least one of them to a different week. While they both will do well I think, they'll both suffer at the box office against each other.

And then we have Connie and Carla starring Nia Vardalos, the chick from My Big Fat Greek Wedding. And also David 'where did my movie career go after X-Files' Duchovny.

OK, and with that, here are your numbers...


1) The Passion of The Christ- $17,086,922 ($354,876,550)
2) Hellboy- $11,100,000 ($41,080,000)
3) Johnson Family Vacation- $9,200,000 ($11,619,426) NEW!!!
4) The Alamo- $9,200,000 ($9,200,000) NEW!!!
5) Walking Tall- $8,300,000 ($28,802,000)
6) Home on the Range- $8,194,000 ($27,507,000)
7) Scooby-Doo 2: Monsters Unleashed- $8,000,000 ($62,862,000)
8) The Whole Ten Yards- $6,720,000 ($6,720,000) NEW!!!
9) Ella Enchanted- $6,108,000 ($6,108,000) NEW!!!
10) The Girl Next Door- $6,000,000 ($6,000,000) NEW!!!
11) The Prince and Me- $5,500,000 ($18,529,000)
12) The Ladykillers- $4,589,000 ($30,403,000)

The Clown Prince

[Tobias]

No big surprise that Passion jumped back to #1, but after this weekend, it's done. By the end of April, it should be disappearing from theaters altogether.

The Girl Next Door was crippled by a tag team of both an R rating and a plot about a teen dating a porn star. I think a lot of parents said neigh to this film.

Looks like Alamo's pulling a Pearl Harbor, as I said last week.

Kill Bill Vol 2's already getting great reviews, and I'm pretty confident it'll take the #1 spot next week.

Punisher, however, doesn't exactly inspire me to see it, but I'll go just to support comic book movies, possibly after I see Kill Bill 2.

Connie and Carla won't even make a dent in the box office. I'll be surprised if it even debuts in the top 10.

[Caffeine King]

Kill Bill Vol. 2 will probably make it to #1, that or The Punisher will.

The Passion will drop to #3 or #4...

As for this week, on surprise to see The Passion back on top. :)

[Batmex]

I said it didn't I?

Jesus came back! WOOHHOOO!!!!

[Elf]

Yeah baby, Passion's back on top. :)

To Eisner: It's your Alamo. :evil:

[Chris Wood]

[Tobias]No big surprise that Passion jumped back to #1, but after this weekend, it's done. By the end of April, it should be disappearing from theaters altogether.
I bet it'll linger on longer than that. Return of the King is still in theaters.


The Girl Next Door was crippled by a tag team of both an R rating and a plot about a teen dating a porn star. I think a lot of parents said neigh to this film.
I think the guys who produced this have serious balls. Not since the 80s has a teen comedy dared be so overtly sexual (at least, to judge by the advertising). Have to give them props. Anyway, regardless of what parents think, this is the kind of film that kids would readily sneak off to see. It's not likely to be a big film, but maybe a cult one like Porky's.


Looks like Alamo's pulling a Pearl Harbor, as I said last week.
Not sure what you mean. Alamo's opening was a disaster, but Pearl Harbor was overall a huge success ($450 million worldwide box office).


Punisher, however, doesn't exactly inspire me to see it, but I'll go just to support comic book movies, possibly after I see Kill Bill 2.
See it first! I know I will. Give the little guy a chance.

[Lord Dalek]

Tarantino will officialy kill Christ next week.

[Sigma]

It's all about Kill Bill next week for me. I took off work Friday just so I could go see Vol. 2 and Tuesday is the DVD release of Vol. 1.

As for The Punisher production wise it reminds me of Dare Devil which is not a good thing considering I didn't like Dare Devil too much I will probably go see it if the reviews are decent.

[Tobias]

Not sure what you mean. Alamo's opening was a disaster, but Pearl Harbor was overall a huge success ($450 million worldwide box office).



Both films are overly hyped historical pieces that will be remembered more for how fast they bombed than how much money they made overall.

[Leaping Larry Jojo]

The main reason Girl Next Door bombed is its cast of relative unknowns. I actually heard this was a better movie than it looked, so that's unfortunate.

[EinBebop]

Tarantino will officialy kill Christ next week.Judging by how vol. 1 did, I doubt it.

[EinBebop]

The main reason Girl Next Door bombed is its cast of relative unknowns. I actually heard this was a better movie than it looked, so that's unfortunate.24: One of the top two or three network shows among the 18-34 crowd.
Elisha Cuthbert: The hot babe of 24.

I wouldn't call her an unknown.

[Deadly Messiah]

WTF is that Jesus movie still doing at the theater? It has stayed way past its time. I haven't seen Hellboy yet, but I know it will be 100000000 times better than the Jesus movie was.

[loyalheart]

The main reason Girl Next Door bombed is its cast of relative unknowns. I actually heard this was a better movie than it looked, so that's unfortunate.
the film will probably do well on video/dvd.

and as far as "passion". it's easter. i bet families went to see at as an easter thing. as the movie is about what happend on easter

[Batmex]

WTF is that Jesus movie still doing at the theater?
What he does best.:D

[Icer]

Definetly not surprised that Passion was number 1.

Damn though, Girl Next Door only made 6 million...not good. I wanted to see it, may wash out of the theatres before I get a chance to.

Next week, I'm definetly seeing The Punisher. Kill Bill 2 can wait

[Lord Dalek]

Kill Bill should be able to beat Punisher next week. There's a bigger fan-base.

[Vyse]

The Passion of the Christ is the ULTIMATE Easter film. It's eventuall debut on tv will be on an Easter Sunday. It will stay around for an extra month or two, leaving mid- or late-June.

I am going to see Kill Bill Vol. 2 on Saturday w/ my friends (glad I'm taking that night off). I want to see the Punisher (and The Passion, which I still have not yet seen).

In order for The Alamo to be the next Pearl Harbor, it must win the Oscar for Best Sound (Editing?); Pearl Harbor won that category.

[shogunthethird]

I guess mel can go build that church to go play his banjo at... considering this was for christians was Schindler's list was for us Jews not so much a good movie but a "guilt you into seeing it" movie, you know the ones "How can you call yourself a ____ and not have seen this movie?" whatever...Gimme a good comedy or an action movie any day and Mel, Congratulations, you've become the gentile equivalent of Woody Allen....in other words GO BACK TO MAKING "GOOD" MOVIES!!

[The Detective]

WTF is that Jesus movie still doing at the theater? It has stayed way past its time. I haven't seen Hellboy yet, but I know it will be 100000000 times better than the Jesus movie was.Oh come one. Just because you don't care for a movie doesn't mean it doesn't even deserve to be in theatres. :rolleyes:

[Redi]

Kill Bill should be able to beat Punisher next week. There's a bigger fan-base.
Kill Bill 1 didn't do any where as well as expected and Punisher is the 5th biggest character Marvel has. While neither movie looks good, they'll probably be neck and neck next week.

I'm surprised how well Walking Tall and Home on the Range are doing. However, I'm even more surprised how well Johnson Family Vacation did...

[Leaping Larry Jojo]

24: One of the top two or three network shows among the 18-34 crowd.
Elisha Cuthbert: The hot babe of 24.

I wouldn't call her an unknown.

She's a TV star of a cult show. TV and movies are separate entities. It's a whole different ballpark in the movies.

Do you think a movie starring Dennis Franz would draw even half as much as one with Robert DeNiro? I doubt it.


Kill Bill 1 didn't do any where as well as expected and Punisher is the 5th biggest character Marvel has. While neither movie looks good, they'll probably be neck and neck next week.



Kill Bill v 1 did about as expected, perhaps better. Tarantino has never been a box office star but Kill Bill did decently for a wide release Tarantino movie. It really wasn't too marketable a movie--lots of subtitles, over the top violence, obscure references...yet it cracked over 60 million. That's decent.

I expect Kill Bill v 2 to have a good opening. A lot of people have seen Kill Bill 1 by now, whether by tape or word of mouth. It might not beat knock off Passion, though.

[DarthGonzo]

I STILL say movies should be judge NOT on how much money they make but on how many people actually see them. The inflation on theater prices will continually give new films the advantage. Films today cost twice as much to see as they did a little over ten years ago. How can you place 30 years of films together on a list when theater prices are always increasing.

I think attendence should be what movies are compared by. Of COURSE new movies are going to make more money than older ones. Sheesh.

[Frank Castle]

Looking forward to next weekend when I go see The Punisher. I hope Kill Bill does well too. Glad to see the Passion of the Christ ranked #1 this weekend.:D

[Deadly Messiah]

Oh come one. Just because you don't care for a movie doesn't mean it doesn't even deserve to be in theatres. :rolleyes:
Yeah, but there are superior movies that don't even get this long of a run. I didn't get to see either Matrix Revolutions or X-Men 2 in theaters a second time because it didn't run that long. I never got to see Matrix Reloaded a 3rd time because it wasn't up that long. LotR is the only movie that has stayed up a long time that was worth it.

Anyway, I may go see The Punisher, I may not. I'll pass on Kill Bill 2 since I haven't seen the first one. Although I have heard 2 is a lot superior to the first one in many ways.

[Juu-kuchi]

I'm not surprised that it happened, but I was sortof hoping that it would not be at #1 for some strange reason (even if I did like the movie).

Hopefully next week, Uma Thurman will not only Kill Bill, but Kill Jesus!*

*Smite me for political incorrectness.

[EinBebop]

She's a TV star of a cult show. TV and movies are separate entities. It's a whole different ballpark in the movies.I agree with the second part of the statement, to a point. But a CULT show? It's return on Tuesday night won its time slot!

As far as TV-to-movie, the younger crowd has a bigger impact on movie ticket sales than say, a show starring Dennis Franz.

[EinBebop]

I think attendence should be what movies are compared by. Of COURSE new movies are going to make more money than older ones. Sheesh.Preach it, brother.

But your viewpoint fails from a marketing perspective.

[Peter Paltridge]

One of the new films this weekend, Johnson Family Vacation came in third place with $9.2 million. This one opened Wednesday so add in it's Wednesday and Thursday totals and it's up to $11.6 million. Gee, that's really weird. The ad budget for that movie was zero; it just showed up in my paper the day it premiered and I hadn't seen any TV ads for it. I figured, "Wow, it must be a real stinker." Apparently many people didn't share my thought pattern.


The Passion of the Christ is the ULTIMATE Easter film. It's eventuall debut on tv will be on an Easter Sunday. It will stay around for an extra month or two, leaving mid- or late-June.
Not so fast. There's no way to edit out the uber-violent content in Passion. The networks will pass on it; then TBN will get it for free and show it over and over for the entire 2006 Easter weekend. Every kid flipping through the channels that day will see the unedited gore and be traumatized.

[Starflyer 58]

And then we have Connie and Carla starring Nia Vardalos, the chick from My Big Fat Greek Wedding. And also David 'where did my movie career go after X-Files' Duchovny. What the heck?! David Duchovny has a movie coming out next week? This is the first I've even heard of it! Geez, you'd think they would throw out a TV spot or two for it. Hum.

Well, next week it's Punisher for me. Kill Bill Vol2, probably not till the following weekend. This Connie and Carla thing will likely have to wait for DVD, despite my X-Files fangirlness.

[Robin2099]

Yeah, but there are superior movies that don't even get this long of a run. I didn't get to see either Matrix Revolutions or X-Men 2 in theaters a second time because it didn't run that long. I never got to see Matrix Reloaded a 3rd time because it wasn't up that long. LotR is the only movie that has stayed up a long time that was worth it.

Anyway, I may go see The Punisher, I may not. I'll pass on Kill Bill 2 since I haven't seen the first one. Although I have heard 2 is a lot superior to the first one in many ways. That's because of the time periods they were released. X2, and Revolution's both came out during the summer movie period, when films are pushed out each week because of all the big movies that are being relased. Just look at last summer, with the exception of X2 and Freddy vs Jason no movie held the number one spot for more than a week. While Revolutions came out in November which is a dull time period, it also dropped like a rock after opening weekend which is why it wasn't in theatres that long. The Passion is still playing because it hasn't had a big drop off and is still doing fairly strong business. As for next week, Kill Bill Vol 2 should take the top spot with Punisher at number 2, even though it doesn't make much sense that two big business films with the same demographic would be released the same weekend. I'm guessing $20 million for Vol 2 and about $15 for Punisher.

[The Clown Prince]

What the heck?! David Duchovny has a movie coming out next week? This is the first I've even heard of it! Geez, you'd think they would throw out a TV spot or two for it. Hum.

Well, next week it's Punisher for me. Kill Bill Vol2, probably not till the following weekend. This Connie and Carla thing will likely have to wait for DVD, despite my X-Files fangirlness.
I should have been more clear on that, but it's more of a bit part or supporting role. How big it is, beats me. I don't think I'll be seeing this one ever. But he hasn't had a starring role since that sci-fi/comedy type film with Sean William Scott. I think it was called Evolution.

Anyways, I've seen a few TV ads for Connie and Carla, and sure enough there he is. How much TV you watch and what TV shows you watch probably determine whether you'll see the ad. It's that wonderful thing advertisers do to go after their demographic.

The Clown Prince

[Outlander00]

Judging by how vol. 1 did, I doubt it.
Vol. 1 was #1 its first week, however fell off afterwards.... Plus, the time of the year didnt help it either. However, knowing that I think vol. 2 will have a much bigger pull this and possibly further weeks.

btw, its kind of funny... my friend actually called Passion winning the weekend this week.

[EinBebop]

Vol. 1 was #1 its first week, however fell off afterwards.... Plus, the time of the year didnt help it either. However, knowing that I think vol. 2 will have a much bigger pull this and possibly further weeks.Yeah, but it didn't pull in the numbers they were hoping for. In its second week to Texas Chainsaw Massacre (who did a better opening weekend) and dropped from second to seventh in its third week, past movies it was beating the week before.

Now if they'd released vol. 1 on DVD two or three weeks ago rather than tomorrow, so that more people would have time to see the first one before the second one came out, I would give it a better shot. But few people are going to see vol. 2 without having seen vol. 1, and, well, relatively few people have seen vol. 1.

[Baltofan]

It suprised me to see Home On The Range so high on the list, I thought it would be a bomb.

[EinBebop]

It suprised me to see Home On The Range so high on the list, I thought it would be a bomb.I've learned never to underestimate a 'family' movie, no matter how bad it looks. (Not that I think Home doesn't look good)

[Elf]

I might agree that Vol. 2 will rule the rest of April (since Ebert & Roeper gave it Two thumbs up.) But after that it will fall hard because of a man named Van Helsing, the big battle of Troy, the return of a green ogre, and the destruction of the world.

[Mek]

Some of you people here disgust me.

That's all I will say.

[Vyse]

Not so fast. There's no way to edit out the uber-violent content in Passion. The networks will pass on it; then TBN will get it for free and show it over and over for the entire 2006 Easter weekend. Every kid flipping through the channels that day will see the unedited gore and be traumatized.
The networks ARE considering getting the tv rights to "The Passion," according to an Entertainment Weekly article. The offers will probably include commercial-free airings of the film. Besides, look at Schindler's List. It's violent and was shown on broadcast tv.

Since Mel's a Catholic, The Passion has a better chance getting on EWTN (the Catholic network) first than TBN.

[Mek]

Seriously speaking as a Catholic m'self, (well, I won't be officially recognized by the church as one until next Easter) 'The Passion' is a movie I can ONLY stand to see once, and ONLY once. Even if you edited out the Scourging at the Pillar, I still wouldn't be able to watch it again.


But when I saw it Saturday, it left a truly profound effect upon me and made me realize the true reason why I am a Christian. Some of you may diss and make jokes; hell, you may even add me to your ignore lists because I'm a Christian. But I'm PROUD to call myself one, no matter what you or anyone else thinks, because I don't give a damn. :D


And it's just that your 'Kill Christ' barbs REALLY upset me, simply because you say them with such spite. I honestly don't mind religious humor, but that's where I draw the line. And besides, YOU don't see me insulting atheists and whatnot... I refuse to bring myself down to your level. Besides, I follow the rule He set before His followers: "Love your neighbor." I think all of us -regardless of our beliefs/non-beliefs can benefit from that statment.

And for the record, I also loved 'Hellboy'. ;)
*shot*

[oranthal]

http://images.ucomics.com/comics/bo/2004/bo040405.gif
I thought that was pretty funny take on The Passion.

[GL2k2]

Well, figured Passion would take the top spot again, that's just easy math. I'd like to see "Kill Bill" take the number one spot, but IMO, I think Tarantino deserves to get punished by "The Punisher". He dogged comic book movies, and he split a movie in two. But he will more than likely take the top spot, at least this week.

I will be seeing both, so . . . .

[Mynd Hed]

I thought that was pretty funny take on The Passion.
At the big theatre in Flagstaff (a Harkins) there's a warning sign at the box office about the passion. It reads:


The Passion of the Christ
THIS MOVIE CONTAINS SUBTITLES
and graphic violence not suitable for children.

And yes, those font sizes do indeed represent the relative font size of each line on the actual sign. Apparently Harkins considers it more important to warn viewers about the dangers of reading than those of graphic violence. *sigh*

[Youko Recca]

Damn, both Kill Bill vol.2 and Punsher are rated R...

[The Detective]

Tarantino will officialy kill Christ next week.
Y’know, everyone says stuff like, like it would be such an accomplishment for ‘Kill Bill’ to beat ‘Passion’ almost like that would prove ‘Passion’ is such a bad movie or something. I look at it the other way. If ‘Kill Bill’ didn’t beat Passion, that would just prove how pathetic it is.




Yeah, but there are superior movies that don't even get this long of a run. I didn't get to see either Matrix Revolutions or X-Men 2 in theaters a second time because it didn't run that long. I never got to see Matrix Reloaded a 3rd time because it wasn't up that long. LotR is the only movie that has stayed up a long time that was worth it.

Anyway, I may go see The Punisher, I may not. I'll pass on Kill Bill 2 since I haven't seen the first one. Although I have heard 2 is a lot superior to the first one in many ways.
I’m sorry but if a movies stayed in theatres based on how good it was, we’d have movies leaving after their first showing, movies staying perpetually at the theatre, etc, etc. It just doesn’t work that way. It’s all about the money.




I'm not surprised that it happened, but I was sortof hoping that it would not be at #1 for some strange reason (even if I did like the movie).

Hopefully next week, Uma Thurman will not only Kill Bill, but Kill Jesus!*

*Smite me for political incorrectness.


*smites*




Not so fast. There's no way to edit out the uber-violent content in Passion. The networks will pass on it; then TBN will get it for free and show it over and over for the entire 2006 Easter weekend. Every kid flipping through the channels that day will see the unedited gore and be traumatized.
Y’know I was just thinking the other day, if “Passion” would ever come to TV or not. Any attempt to tone down the violence would result in the movie being about ten minutes long.




Seriously speaking as a Catholic m'self, (well, I won't be officially recognized by the church as one until next Easter) 'The Passion' is a movie I can ONLY stand to see once, and ONLY once. Even if you edited out the Scourging at the Pillar, I still wouldn't be able to watch it again.


But when I saw it Saturday, it left a truly profound effect upon me and made me realize the true reason why I am a Christian. Some of you may diss and make jokes; hell, you may even add me to your ignore lists because I'm a Christian. But I'm PROUD to call myself one, no matter what you or anyone else thinks, because I don't give a damn. :D


And it's just that your 'Kill Christ' barbs REALLY upset me, simply because you say them with such spite. I honestly don't mind religious humor, but that's where I draw the line. And besides, YOU don't see me insulting atheists and whatnot... I refuse to bring myself down to your level. Besides, I follow the rule He set before His followers: "Love your neighbor." I think all of us -regardless of our beliefs/non-beliefs can benefit from that statment.

And for the record, I also loved 'Hellboy'. ;)
*shot*
Well said. Comments like about Christ being killed (in this thread and when Dawn of the Dead came in no. 1 at the box office a few weeks ago) are just stupid and insulting. I bet if Passion was about Muhammad or Buddha no one would dare say anything about it lest they be brand a bigot or intolerant of another religion. Christianity is the only okay group to beat on these days. (of course to a Christian, the answer is simple. Christianity is the truth and will be hated by the world but I won’t be getting into that here)



All right with all that out of the way, I expected ‘Passion’ to rise in the box office but I honestly didn’t expect it to come back to number one either. I’m surprised ‘Johnson Family Vacation’ did so well. The reviews I’ve read have not been kind.



Next week: I expect Kill Bill Vol. 2 to squeak out number one with Punisher on it’s tail. Hellboy will probably maintain a solid number three. Passion will probably drop back down to four of five. Johnson Family vacation will drop. Like a rock. Tied to a piano.

[Deadly Messiah]

Well said. Comments like about Christ being killed (in this thread and when Dawn of the Dead came in no. 1 at the box office a few weeks ago) are just stupid and insulting. I bet if Passion was about Muhammad or Buddha no one would dare say anything about it lest they be brand a bigot or intolerant of another religion. Christianity is the only okay group to beat on these days. (of course to a Christian, the answer is simple. Christianity is the truth and will be hated by the world but I won’t be getting into that here)



All right with all that out of the way, I expected ‘Passion’ to rise in the box office but I honestly didn’t expect it to come back to number one either. I’m surprised ‘Johnson Family Vacation’ did so well. The reviews I’ve read have not been kind.
I do not follow any religion, if I did, it would be Wicca because you can choose what gods you want, and for me it would be the Egyptians, but I have no intention of following through with it, so why bother.

The only problem I have with Christianity are the loser Catholics that stand on every street corner preaching their BS by saying you will be going to hell if you do not follow our rules. Like the whole "no eat meat crap." If I went to Applebees on Friday wanting Steak, and one guy told me it was bad, I'll tell him something he wouldn't like to hear. I feel sorry for Jesus. A poor innocent man being condemed to become the leader of a religion he had no intention of bringing up. He was like Buddha, did not want to be like a god at all.

Back on topic, I did not care for the movie. I found it boring. I did like the beginning of it though, and the music was good, but that is all.

As I said, if I get a chance I'm either going to see Hellboy or Punisher. Kill Bill 2 can wait until both movies are out on DVD before I see it. Ofcourse, the next movie I truly care about is Van Helsing. Now that will rock!

[Caffeine King]

I feel sorry for Jesus. A poor innocent man being condemed to become the leader of a religion he had no intention of bringing up. He was like Buddha, did not want to be like a god at all.
He's the son of God! :mad:

And where in The Bible does it say that he didn't wanna be the son of God?

:rolleyes: Trying practicing what you preach! :mad:

[Neo-Era]

And yes, those font sizes do indeed represent the relative font size of each line on the actual sign. Apparently Harkins considers it more important to warn viewers about the dangers of reading than those of graphic violence. *sigh*

Ha! That's hilarious. And, except for that comic pointing out the same, the only thing in this otherwise overly-whiney thread worth reading.

[Deadly Messiah]

He's the son of God! :mad:

And where in The Bible does it say that he didn't wanna be the son of God?

:rolleyes: Trying practicing what you preach! :mad:
I'm talking about the real Jesus that was born in 5 BC (or now it is 3 AD), not the fictional one used in religion.

[The Detective]

I'm talking about the real Jesus that was born in 5 BC (or now it is 3 AD), not the fictional one used in religion.This is neither the thread nor the place to really get into this, but Christians (myself included) believe that the 'real' Jesus that was born in 5 BC/3AD was indeed the Son of God. If you wish to debate whether or not he was in another subject entirely and this is the wrong thread for that kind of thing anyway.

Oh, and there are some distinct differences between Christianity and Catholicism so don't go lumping all Christians into one boat. I myself eat meat on Friday all the time.

[Failure]

This is neither the thread nor the place to really get into this

The Detective pretty much hit it on the spot here. Any more talk about religion and this thread is closed. So everyone just drop all the talk about religion. Just drop it on the spot. Let whatever's been said just hang there and let it go.

There's a place and a time for that, and this thread is neither of those.

[Batmex]

I'm still looking foward to Hellboy, altought I got mixed feelings on the 1st Kill Bill.

[The Clown Prince]

The Detective pretty much hit it on the spot here. Any more talk about religion and this thread is closed. So everyone just drop all the talk about religion. Just drop it on the spot. Let whatever's been said just hang there and let it go.

There's a place and a time for that, and this thread is neither of those.
Yes, please people, don't get this thread closed. I've never had a box office thread closed due to misbehavior. Don't start now please.

The Clown Prince

[The Penguin]

Thank you Failure. There's a reason we don't talk about religion here and you should all be capable of talking about The Passion (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=103617) without going overboard.

Anyway to my thoughts on the box office...

Personally I am at least very surprised to see The Passion (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=103617) back at #1. I suppose if a person hadn't gone to see it yet this would have been the weekend to see it, but it still blows my mind. It came out in February! I admit I still haven't seen this movie, but my religion aside I get a bit tired of hearing how it's the greatest thing ever. Maybe it is, but I'm still ready for the movie to go away.

Hellboy (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=107156) sure did take a drop, but these comic book movies always seem to do really well on DVD and I doubt the sequel is any danger.

My expectations for The Alamo (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=107959) were not high. jdogg (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?p=1219739#post1219739) said it so well I must quote him, Common sense should have told you that a movie doesn't get pushed back five months because it's good.

I thought the trailer for Johnson Family Vacation made it seem like a lot of fun. 10 Yards and Ella Enchanted (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=108196) didn't find much love at the box office though.

Next week should be very interesting with The Punisher and Kill Bill Vol. 2. "They can't kill me, I'm already dead."

[chevy citation]

The Passion being number 1 isn't surprising at all because of the holiday. Next week it'll trickle down to #8 or 9 or lower and stay that way until summertime.

I say Kill Bill should've been one movie, but I'll be seein it next week anyway. Let QT double his money.

Is Xaolin Soccer going to get a bigger release than New York and LA? I saw the clips on VH1 and it looks hilarious! I'd be first to see it if it came to my town.

[GL2k2]

Thank you Failure. There's a reason we don't talk about religion here and you should all be capable of talking about The Passion (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=103617) without going overboard.

Anyway to my thoughts on the box office...

Personally I am at least very surprised to see The Passion (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=103617) back at #1. I suppose if a person hadn't gone to see it yet this would have been the weekend to see it, but it still blows my mind. It came out in February! I admit I still haven't seen this movie, but my religion aside I get a bit tired of hearing how it's the greatest thing ever. Maybe it is, but I'm still ready for the movie to go away.

Hellboy (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=107156) sure did take a drop, but these comic book movies always seem to do really well on DVD and I doubt the sequel is any danger.

My expectations for The Alamo (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=107959) were not high. jdogg (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?p=1219739#post1219739) said it so well I must quote him, Common sense should have told you that a movie doesn't get pushed back five months because it's good.

I thought the trailer for Johnson Family Vacation made it seem like a lot of fun. 10 Yards and Ella Enchanted (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=108196) didn't find much love at the box office though.

Next week should be very interesting with The Punisher and Kill Bill Vol. 2. "They can't kill me, I'm already dead."
I agree that the Passion was not the greatest thing ever, they got a lot of things wrong, and used some poetic symbology, I think it would have been a good idea of Mel to actually film this movie as an epic, but then that has been done ad naseum. I think Mel was making a point with this movie, it shows exactly what is important about Christ and how he is portrayed to the three major religions (not to put anyone else's religion down). So, I can understand why it was so short, and in that it was genuis up until this point of cinema.

I get upset with people talking about it being so violent, I mean I've seen some horrible movies in my life (I spit on your grave, Last house on the Left) and I get disturbed by those, more than I get disturbed by the Passion. Maybe it's because I am a Christian, I do not believe Christ is dead. But, anyways, Penguin, it may not be a worthy watch in the theaters, but all in all it is something to see at least once. Rent it when it gets to DVD, but give it a chance Penguin.

As for the box office, I didn't know so many movies came out this week, I thought only Ten Yards and Johnson Vacation came out. Sad to see them get pummeled. I can't help to think how much money these studios are wasting on movies nowadays. There are so many movies out to see, and most of them not worth watching anyway. When is Hollywood going to give it up and start making quality films.:D Yeah, I had to laugh myself.

[shogunthethird]

a lot of times when people say they hate a movie, they really mean they hate the hype and fans of the movie who preach and prattle on and treat you like scum if you don't march in lock-step with them, hence my feeling about "the passion" I don't give a dren about the movie, it's the vocal fans, the wacko director and the obligatory reactionaries that get under my skin

[oranthal]

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And yes, those font sizes do indeed represent the relative font size of each line on the actual sign. Apparently Harkins considers it more important to warn viewers about the dangers of reading than those of graphic violence. *sigh*I wonder what it is about movies in subtitles that seem to scare away movie goers.

[Chris Wood]

Put me down for The Punisher this week. I was really worried that Kill Bill would completely slaughter it, but after finally watching Vol. 1 it doesn't seem quite as compelling as the hype would have one believe. It was fun, but nothing on the level of Pulp Fiction. Big Pun might just have an outside chance.

[Robin2099]

Put me down for The Punisher this week. I was really worried that Kill Bill would completely slaughter it, but after finally watching Vol. 1 it doesn't seem quite as compelling as the hype would have one believe. It was fun, but nothing on the level of Pulp Fiction. Big Pun might just have an outside chance. I dunno. The reviews for Vol 2 have so far been bery positive, while the reviews for The Punisher(even from fan boys) have been horrid, some going so far as to say its on the same level and potentially worse than the original.

[Neo-Era]

Yep. Kill Bill (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/KillBillVol2-1131502/) is the most revolutionary action film(s) in many a moon while The Punisher (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/ThePunisher-1131721/) looks to be the worst comic book adaption since League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen at least.

Though I think Bill is fighting an uphill battle at the box office this weekend because Miramax waited too long to start the ads for Vol. 2 (or cut the ad budget for this one).

[SSJPabs]

Just curious Deadly Messiah, do you just have a problem with Catholics or is it all Christians like Protestants, Greek Orthodox, etc too? As a Protestant I agree that there are definitely somethings that Catholics do that I think are wrong, but that is their business, I interpret it a different way. You're right we cannot now, or probably ever know for sure about Jesus. That's the point of religion itself, to have faith in something that can't be impirically proven. The Passion of Christ is a Passion Play its suppose to be visceral and emotional. I have little desire to see it, but I have no desire to see it apparently knifed into an early grave.

Still I can't for the life of me imagine why Clown Prince was so shocked to see it regain the number one spot.

Box office wise, its good to see the End of Eisner approach as so many of the miramax-disney films are tanking. Also, note that Kill Bill Vol. 2 is nowhere near as a violent as the first one, much more dialogue and character heavy. I think the best effect would be if you watch both Vol. 1 and Vol 2. in succession.

I will soon be watching that Elisha Cuthbert movie, because surprise, she is hot, but not The Punisher or Hellboy because I am not into American comics much. By the way, Duchovny said recently that X-Files 2 is continuing along nicely. What that means I don't know but I'd see it just because we'd better get the end of that story.

[The Clown Prince]

Still I can't for the life of me imagine why Clown Prince was so shocked to see it regain the number one spot.

Box office wise, its good to see the End of Eisner approach as so many of the miramax-disney films are tanking.

By the way, Duchovny said recently that X-Files 2 is continuing along nicely. What that means I don't know but I'd see it just because we'd better get the end of that story.
I was so shocked because for a movie that opened Feburay 25th to come in number one again at the box office nearly a month and a half later is pretty shocking. I can't think of one movie recently that has done that. People say they're not surprised considering it was Easter, but movies about Christmas for example just don't jump to number one during Christmas Eve and Day when they were released in November or even early December.

Still, again I have to question if these were individual tickets that were purchased or if like when the film opened, churches came in and bought out or close to buying out an auditorium. If that's the case, then how many really did come in and fill those seats? But like I said the day of the report, Money is money and it all counts the same regardless if the seats were filled or not. Box Office Mojo has a list of the all-time top 7th weekends.

1) Titanic $25,907,172 ($600,788,188) 12/19/97
2) The Passion of the Christ $15,216,723 ($354,304,281) 2/25/04
3) Mrs. Doubtfire $11,536,024 ($219,195,243) 11/24/93
4) E.T.: The Extra-Terrestrial $11,255,124 ($359,197,037) 6/11/82
5) Forrest Gump $11,248,160 ($329,694,499) 7/06/94
6) The Sixth Sense $11,207,422 ($293,506,292) 8/06/99
7) Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone $10,978,760($317,575,550) 11/16/01
8) My Big Fat Greek Wedding $10,772,146 ($241,438,208) 8/02/02
9) Home Alone 2: Lost in New York $9,562,917 ($173,585,516) 11/20/92
10) Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace $9,540,382 ($431,088,301) 5/19/99
11) Beauty and the Beast $8,804,918 ($145,863,363) 11/22/91
12) Ghostbusters $8,493,861 ($229,242,989) 6/08/84
13) Finding Nemo $8,465,110 ($339,714,978) 5/30/03
14) Aladdin $8,431,763 ($217,350,219) 11/27/92
15) Jurassic Park $8,420,160 ($357,067,947) 6/11/93
16) There's Something About Mary $8,374,865 ($176,484,651) 7/17/98
17) Three Men and a Baby $8,103,282 ($167,780,960) 11/25/87
18) A Beautiful Mind $8,095,090 ($170,742,341) 1/04/02
19) Look Who's Talking $7,878,228 ($140,088,813) 10/13/89
20) Shrek $7,707,203 ($267,665,011) 5/16/01


With all that info, it doesn't say what place they were in. I'd say going by memory that Titanic, Sixth Sense, maybe E.T. or Jurassic Park, but those "Spielbergs" were summer films. Competition is brutal during the summer. Same goes for Episode I. Finding Nemo kept pumping the money in, but it wasn't number one for very long, in fact if everyone remembers, last summer, no film held the number one spot for more than 2 weeks except X-Men 2. Again, looking at that list, maybe Mrs. Doubtfire. If anyone else can tell me what movie did what 'Passion' did, please post it. I'd really like to know.

The whole thing with Disney and Miramax has/is been fun to watch. Especially Disney. Miramax hasn't had a huge hit since Chicago. Cold Mountain I think broke even or slightly went above. Jersey Girl sure wasn't huge. The first Kill Bill movie sure didn't make a killing (pun intended) but we'll see how Volume 2 does. Eisner I believe if I read right was not thrilled with Miramax going a head with the Kill Bill movies. But hey, whatta gonna do? Disney is gonna be paying for The Alamo for a while yet. Still are for Hidalgo. Home on the Range should break even when all is said and done. I don't see Disney having a huge "Finding Nemo or Pirates of the Caribbean" hit until once again Pixar comes to bail them out with The Incredibles in November.

Looking ahead to Disney's other "big" films that they hope will make em' some this year, Around the World in 80 Days in June, the potential bomb or hit King Arthur in July, the more than likely hit The Village in late July (M. Knight Shyamalan's new movie), another likely success, The Princess Diaries 2 in August. We'll stop there for now. It's gonna be close whether Disney makes a profit or not this year on their movies. But my guess is NO, even with The Incredibles help or DVD sales say of Home on the Range. The Alamo really hurt Disney.

As for David Duchovny, notice that he's talking about 'X-Files.' Not any other original movie or even TV series with him in it. He's going back to what he knows. I don't know if it's because he can't really do anything else, or studios just don't have him in mind. Either way, it's back to X-Files for Agent Mulder.

The Clown Prince

[Elf]

AVP is so gonna slaugter Princess Diaries 2. :evil:

[SSJPabs]

I was so shocked because for a movie that opened Feburay 25th to come in number one again at the box office nearly a month and a half later is pretty shocking. I can't think of one movie recently that has done that. People say they're not surprised considering it was Easter, but movies about Christmas for example just don't jump to number one during Christmas Eve and Day when they were released in November or even early December.

Still, again I have to question if these were individual tickets that were purchased or if like when the film opened, churches came in and bought out or close to buying out an auditorium. If that's the case, then how many really did come in and fill those seats? But like I said the day of the report, Money is money and it all counts the same regardless if the seats were filled or not.
I wondered this too. After asking around, I know that the 5 Southern Baptist Churches in the Fargo-Moorhead area managed to give away ALL the tickets they bought. Whether those people went I don't know.

As for being so shocked I don't see what so hard to understand. It's a religious movie. Easter is THE paramount religious holiday in the Christian calendar, and moreover its the one least taken over by secular consumerism. Also you have to understand that many churches (but by no means all of course) were urging their congregations to bump the Passion for Easter weekend as well. Finally, you have Maundy Thursday services, Good Friday Services and Easter Sunday services but Saturday you have nothing so there's time...


The whole thing with Disney and Miramax has/is been fun to watch. Especially Disney. Miramax hasn't had a huge hit since Chicago. Cold Mountain I think broke even or slightly went above. Jersey Girl sure wasn't huge. The first Kill Bill movie sure didn't make a killing (pun intended) but we'll see how Volume 2 does. Eisner I believe if I read right was not thrilled with Miramax going a head with the Kill Bill movies. But hey, whatta gonna do? Disney is gonna be paying for The Alamo for a while yet. Still are for Hidalgo. Home on the Range should break even when all is said and done. I don't see Disney having a huge "Finding Nemo or Pirates of the Caribbean" hit until once again Pixar comes to bail them out with The Incredibles in November.

Looking ahead to Disney's other "big" films that they hope will make em' some this year, Around the World in 80 Days in June, the potential bomb or hit King Arthur in July, the more than likely hit The Village in late July (M. Knight Shyamalan's new movie), another likely success, The Princess Diaries 2 in August. We'll stop there for now. It's gonna be close whether Disney makes a profit or not this year on their movies. But my guess is NO, even with The Incredibles help or DVD sales say of Home on the Range. The Alamo really hurt Disney.

As for David Duchovny, notice that he's talking about 'X-Files.' Not any other original movie or even TV series with him in it. He's going back to what he knows. I don't know if it's because he can't really do anything else, or studios just don't have him in mind. Either way, it's back to X-Files for Agent Mulder.

The Clown Prince
Well he was a much better Mulder than the T-1000 guy. The show really went down the tubes when he left. I fail to see how the ugly-lookin' (at least to me) Incredible is going to do well but maybe its my asthetics combined with my lack on interest in the American Super-hero genre.

I'm not sure HOW Cold Mountain is seen. On the one hand, it failed miserably in the awards ceremonies. On the other it did okay at the box office. Also all I've heard are horrible things about The Village.

Interesting year for Disney. Here's to the Fall of Eisner!!

[Mynd Hed]

AVP is so gonna slaugter Princess Diaries 2. :evil:
Roight, because those two movies are in direct competition, since they're going for the exact same demographic and all....

[Elf]

It's just my fanboyism.

[GL2k2]

So, what's coming out this May for Disney?

[The Penguin]

Just curious Deadly Messiah, do you just have a problem with Catholics or is it all Christians like Protestants, Greek Orthodox, etc too? As a Protestant I agree that there are definitely somethings that Catholics do that I think are wrong, but that is their business, I interpret it a different way. You're right we cannot now, or probably ever know for sure about Jesus. That's the point of religion itself, to have faith in something that can't be impirically proven. The Passion of Christ is a Passion Play its suppose to be visceral and emotional. I have little desire to see it, but I have no desire to see it apparently knifed into an early grave.We're done with this stuff. If you are interested in how Deadly Messiah feels send a private message. On the same note, Deadly Messiah do not respond to this. We don't need anymore messes in here. Everyone is entitled to feel however they like about religion, but this thread is for the box office.


I've been thinking about this a lot lately and I think the huge marketing blitz of The Punisher is going to lift it above Kill Bill. Punisher is also more accessible to people who just never got around to seeing Vol. 1. If all the money LGF spent on advertising this thing doesn't pay off I will be very surprised.

[Batmex]

We're done with this stuff. If you are interested in how Deadly Messiah feels send a private message. On the same note, Deadly Messiah do not respond to this. We don't need anymore messes in here. Everyone is entitled to feel however they like about religion, but this thread is for the box office.
Agreed.:bosko:

[Mynd Hed]

I've been thinking about this a lot lately and I think the huge marketing blitz of The Punisher is going to lift it above Kill Bill. Punisher is also more accessible to people who just never got around to seeing Vol. 1. If all the money LGF spent on advertising this thing doesn't pay off I will be very surprised.
I dunno, at work this last Tuesday it seemed like everyone who hadn't yet seen Vol. 1 was renting it, and everyone who'd already seen it was buying it. It was definitely doing very well even by new release standards, and all that popularity the DVD release of Vol. 1 generated will no doubt transfer to the theatre release of Vol. 2. Whereas I'm not sure what "huge marketing blitz" you're talking about when it comes to the Punisher-- in my area all the advertising it's gotten is a poster at Harkins and a trailer that seems to turn more people off to the idea than it attracts. Maybe it's different elsewhere, but that's what I see in Flagstaff, anyway.
If Punisher is better than its trailer makes it out to be, I could maybe see word of mouth giving it some success after opening weekend, but I can't see it opening bigger than Kill Bill Vol. 2.

[The Penguin]

Whereas I'm not sure what "huge marketing blitz" you're talking about when it comes to the Punisher-- in my area all the advertising it's gotten is a poster at Harkins and a trailer that seems to turn more people off to the idea than it attracts. Maybe it's different elsewhere, but that's what I see in Flagstaff, anyway.Well I watched WWE for 5 to 7 hours a week and The Punisher is everywhere. There's a commercial every break, they sponsor the show, they sponsor the 'Rewind' and 'Slam of the Week' replay segments and the last two PPV have used a song from The Punisher soundtrack as the official theme song. WWE may not be popular with everyone, but the target audience of WWE is at least part of the target audience for The Punisher and on top of all that, former WWE star Kevin Nash plays The Russian.

[The Clown Prince]

So, what's coming out this May for Disney?
Zilch. That's why I started listing their movies in June. ;)

Whether or not Disney is missing out this year during the first summer month (Hollywood's calender) I don't know. The competition is gonna be rough.

Van Helsing and New York Minute (Olson twins) on May 7th
Troy on May 14th
Shrek 2 on May 21st (The BIG kid film of the summer no doubt)
The Day After Tomorrow on May 28th

Disney would ONLY be able to compete IF they had a strong movie. But it doesn't look they will for a while.

The Clown Prince

[wrenchien]

Yes, please people, don't get this thread closed. I've never had a box office thread closed due to misbehavior. Don't start now please.

The Clown Prince

well.. if it helps any..

'there's a first for everything'.