Matthew Hunter
04-10-2004, 03:08 PM
You will never forget
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"You will remember this battle! Each minute, each second, until they day that you die! For there is no tomorrow, gentlemen, today, we remember the Alamo!" - Sam Houston
Release Date: April 9, 2004
Studio: Touchstone Pictures
Director: John Lee Hancock
Starring: Dennis Quaid, Billy Bob Thornton, Jason Patric, Patrick Wilson, Emilio Echevarria, Marc Blucas, W. Earl Brown, Stephen Bruton, Rutherford Cravens, Blue Deckert, Nick Kokich, Jordi Molla, Matt O'Leary, Wes Studi
Plot Summary: Where myth meets history... where legend meets reality... the roads cross at San Antonio de Bexar and the small, ruined mission there: The Alamo. In the spring of 1836, nearly 200 Texans - men of all races who believed in the future of Texas - held the fort for 13 days under siege by General Antonio Lopez de Santa Anna, rule of Mexico and commander of its forces. Led by three men - the young brash Col. William Travis; the violent, passionate James Bowie; and the larger-than-life living legend David Crockett - the Texans and their deeds at the Alamo would pass into history as General Sam Houston's rallying cry for Texas independence and into legend for their symbolic significance.
Visit the official movie site here (http://alamo.movies.com/).
Buy the movie! (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0002DRDBY/toonzone03/)
Comments?
Edited by The Penguin (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?goto=postid&postid=784835)
OK...as a Texan I had to come see if there was a talkback thread for "The Alamo" movie, and since there wasn't I thought I'd start one. I have to cry foul on this one, and beware, there are spoilers. Although, I don't think I could "spoil" it any worse than the writers and actors did.:mad:
A bunch of friends and I went to go see "The Alamo" last night...and it was SO bad that several people left halfway through! It defies the laws of boredom by reaching new heights...it is one of the most boring things I've ever watched.
The acting is mediocre, and while Billy Bob Thornton worked ok as Davey Crockett, they gave him nothing to work with. To make matters worse, they made Crockett out to be the last guy standing, to warn Santa Anna. No! I believe the history I read put Davey as one of the first guys to go-he was, as in the movie, on the first, weakest wall of the fort that got attacked. The way they set the movie up it still makes no sense in that respect. There's no WAY he could have gotten out of the way fast enough, let alone outlasted everyone else. In the real history, Davey Crockett was one of the first guys to shoot and the first ones to get shot. Some accounts I've heard had Crockett getting trampled under a collapsed wall.
The first 45 minutes of the 2 and a half hours are all talk. They could really have shortened the thing by getting rid of the first half, because there is very little in it that needs to be there. Badly written, badly acted and not exciting at all...by the time the Mexicans and Texans start fighting there's no reward in it...I didn't really care about the characters, which sucks because I knew the outcome anyway. Come on, this is Jim Bowie, Davey Crockett, William Travis...Texas legends, and they fail to show why we're supposed to care about them. They seem to characterize just about everybody as flawed and cast them in a negative light. At least in this movie they lost, (yes, that's the way it went historically) and they showed the battle following when Sam Houston and company finally decided to come and fight, thus catching Santa Anna off guard and winning. Crockett's about the only thing they got innacurately as far as I could tell, and of course since Thornton's one of the only big name actors in it, they couldn't (or wouldn't) kill him when they were supposed to. Sort of like the movie...lived too long. Keep your tex-asses AWAY from this one!
-Matthew
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"You will remember this battle! Each minute, each second, until they day that you die! For there is no tomorrow, gentlemen, today, we remember the Alamo!" - Sam Houston
Release Date: April 9, 2004
Studio: Touchstone Pictures
Director: John Lee Hancock
Starring: Dennis Quaid, Billy Bob Thornton, Jason Patric, Patrick Wilson, Emilio Echevarria, Marc Blucas, W. Earl Brown, Stephen Bruton, Rutherford Cravens, Blue Deckert, Nick Kokich, Jordi Molla, Matt O'Leary, Wes Studi
Plot Summary: Where myth meets history... where legend meets reality... the roads cross at San Antonio de Bexar and the small, ruined mission there: The Alamo. In the spring of 1836, nearly 200 Texans - men of all races who believed in the future of Texas - held the fort for 13 days under siege by General Antonio Lopez de Santa Anna, rule of Mexico and commander of its forces. Led by three men - the young brash Col. William Travis; the violent, passionate James Bowie; and the larger-than-life living legend David Crockett - the Texans and their deeds at the Alamo would pass into history as General Sam Houston's rallying cry for Texas independence and into legend for their symbolic significance.
Visit the official movie site here (http://alamo.movies.com/).
Buy the movie! (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0002DRDBY/toonzone03/)
Comments?
Edited by The Penguin (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?goto=postid&postid=784835)
OK...as a Texan I had to come see if there was a talkback thread for "The Alamo" movie, and since there wasn't I thought I'd start one. I have to cry foul on this one, and beware, there are spoilers. Although, I don't think I could "spoil" it any worse than the writers and actors did.:mad:
A bunch of friends and I went to go see "The Alamo" last night...and it was SO bad that several people left halfway through! It defies the laws of boredom by reaching new heights...it is one of the most boring things I've ever watched.
The acting is mediocre, and while Billy Bob Thornton worked ok as Davey Crockett, they gave him nothing to work with. To make matters worse, they made Crockett out to be the last guy standing, to warn Santa Anna. No! I believe the history I read put Davey as one of the first guys to go-he was, as in the movie, on the first, weakest wall of the fort that got attacked. The way they set the movie up it still makes no sense in that respect. There's no WAY he could have gotten out of the way fast enough, let alone outlasted everyone else. In the real history, Davey Crockett was one of the first guys to shoot and the first ones to get shot. Some accounts I've heard had Crockett getting trampled under a collapsed wall.
The first 45 minutes of the 2 and a half hours are all talk. They could really have shortened the thing by getting rid of the first half, because there is very little in it that needs to be there. Badly written, badly acted and not exciting at all...by the time the Mexicans and Texans start fighting there's no reward in it...I didn't really care about the characters, which sucks because I knew the outcome anyway. Come on, this is Jim Bowie, Davey Crockett, William Travis...Texas legends, and they fail to show why we're supposed to care about them. They seem to characterize just about everybody as flawed and cast them in a negative light. At least in this movie they lost, (yes, that's the way it went historically) and they showed the battle following when Sam Houston and company finally decided to come and fight, thus catching Santa Anna off guard and winning. Crockett's about the only thing they got innacurately as far as I could tell, and of course since Thornton's one of the only big name actors in it, they couldn't (or wouldn't) kill him when they were supposed to. Sort of like the movie...lived too long. Keep your tex-asses AWAY from this one!
-Matthew